This movie is titled Tobol. It's about the conquest of Siberia, the flying ninjas are not Mongolians, they are Dzhungars, the ancestors of modern Kalmyks or Western Mongolians, something like that, idk. The events that take place in this film happened in the early 18th century, during a war between Russia and Sweden, and you can actually see a man wearing the Swedish uniform. Although it is a mistery how he manages to fire a gun without a gun carriage standing right behind it and survive. Probably the flying ninjas had taught him.
Dzungar or Zuungar means "left hand" in Mongolian language. Oirads are Mongols and they speak Mongolian language like Khalkhs but Oirads have distinct accent.
Ah yes, I remember the time that the 14th Century Mongols attacked that 18th century Russian fort. If memory serves, it was a close fight until the Mongol air force managed to establish air superiority to devastating effect against the Russian tank companies. Some say it was actually an American proxy war conducted by the CIA.
Sure, these air-forced ninjas are hilarious) Though your sarcasm seems even worse, costumes in this movie are generally accurate. Probably you was confused with "mongols" in the title, but come on, learn history
smasher 64829 “If it’s not historically accurate than I can’t be bothered to watch it!!” You want to take a test afterwards? Haha! STFU and just enjoy it.
@@crispinjulius5032 " STFU and just enjoy it." Sending grown-up men flying upwards with just a little iece of fabric, like that? Enjoy this? This is not some retro-style sci-fi/fantasy movie, now, is it? Edit: This is not even about enjoying a movie or not, anyway. This is just about exercising one's right to criticize a few points in a movie, which isn't necessarily contrary to enjoying a movie.
@@crispinjulius5032 I can appreciate some historical and logical leniencies that movies often take. However there's a line, I draw it at L33T SK11LZ 69 420 mongol archers 360 hardscoping the Russians from a trampoline
Yes, trampoline warfare, a method so advanced and lethal that you never even hear about it. The armies that today possess this technology keep it top secret, for obvious reasons.
All jokes aside, if you're looking for something like this in this time period, you can buy mount and blade: with fire and sword. Its 16th century eastern Europe
Bayonets weren't in use during this time. This was still the time of early to mid age muskets you can tell by the uniforms. And the muskets their using. If there was bayonets they would've immediately have it, on their belt somewhere.
@@MrRedsjack From its first use somewhere in southwestern France sometime in the first half of the 17th century, the genius of the invention spread far and wide. History has it that the first acknowledged military use of the bayonet was at Ypres in 1647. True infact yes. But if it was early 18th century how come these guys don't have bayonets then? Any say in this? But what I'm saying is that it's very off putting that I don't recognize some of the uniforms. But also I find it ridiculous for four guards just sitting and chatting like it's nothing. Whether their guards or officers or whatever it's dumb, your in the middle of a war and such so why not be more vigilant. But also not arm your men with bayonets on their guns. It doesn't even look like bayonets would go on those guns, it's so off putting about this scene. I've seen lots of Major Sharpe British film episodes and honestly they seem quite realistic enough in terms of military and involving bayonets. But also other films
Every crucial moment in history hinges on something. It appears this moment hinges on ancient super heroes defying gravity and everything else to be super awesome
The Mongolian composite bow (in the hands of an expert) was a far superior weapon to the muskets of that era. The chief advantage of the musket was that it was easier to train conscript soldiers to use them, whereas shooting a bow accurately took a much higher degree of skill and training. In the case of Mongol horse archers, that meant constant practice in horsemanship and archery from an early age.
@@MrSeekerOfPeace It wouldn't have made a difference. Near the end they had state of the art repeating rifles and still were generally no serious match for the European invaders. The Native Americans usually operated in loose tribal groups and never really had the sense of unified organization and discipline to consistently defend their lands. The Mongols by contrast formed large, very highly disciplined and well organized field armies led by cunning and aggressive generals and hence tended to obliterate all opponents in their path, at least up until a certain point in history. It's interesting how Mongolia went from being this gigantic, multi-continent empire and the world's preeminent military power to being the tiny little backwater nation in Central Asia it is today.
@@moredistractions It is determined now that a large amount of Native populations succumb to diseases. And if composite bows were already a part of First Nations arms. Things like the 13 colonies wouldnt even have existed without armed struggle. You're obviously aware of the bows prowess in medium/close range combat. Something the Native populations took pride in when fighting their opponents.
Basically if the diseases didn’t obliterate all of the native population & they had composite bows then the US would not exist as it did today. The natives would have put a far stiffer resistance under these circumstances possibly keeping the Indian lands Indian
@@michaelweston409 Before the advent of the Walker Colt the pistol and muzzle-loaders were no match for the bow, especially in the hands of mounted warriors like the Comanche who could loose a dozen arrows before a man could reload pistol or muzzle-loader. A century before in the Eastern Woodlands both carried muzzle-loaders of equal quality but in close combat would be reduced to sword versus hatchet. Those Europeans who had considerable experience of the tribes - especially in the mid-18th century as adopted members - noted that in warfare the Europeans would suffer losses above 20:1 and without the crush of numbers in the field could not gain success. In truth, what defeated the tribes was their inability to sustain large numbers in the field; again, the tribes inability to sustain large numbers in the field ( e.g. the gathering immediately before the Battle if the Little Bighorn which fielded perhaps 2,000 or more warriors was unprecedented and beyond the experience of soldiers, plainsmen and scouts).The Indian Wars on the North American continent which lasted from the early 16th through to the late 19th century were won by superior numbers. The US Federal government sponsored numerous trips to Washington D.C. of leaders of whichever tribes were the most recalcitrant at the time to impress upon them the might and numbers of the US. On their return many were disbelieved by the tribe, some like Red Cloud thoroughly shaken by the knowledge, and a few like Sitting Bull refusing to yield in any way. His own relations shoved an arrow through the ears of Sitting Bull's corpse because he would not listen ( yeah, I also recall the same was done to Custer's corpse but the Army narration notes the corpse was not mutilated in anyway save the penis cut off and stuffed into the mouth). What proved true in the Indian Wars as on the Eastern Front in WWII is quantity can become a quality of its own. This means millions of square acres could not be preserved by roaming bands of 150 or so persons which on occasion and for a brief season could coalesce as several bands into a tribe. In truth, as the tribes themselves well knew, they were overcome by the numbers.
This is the Imperial Russian fortress of Omsk, just after the expedition ordered by Peter the Great in early 18th century. Actually the attack was on 1716. The mongols where the Dzhungar khanate which was also in war with China's Qing Dinasty. Important was Semyon Remezov, a cartographer, probably the first one of Russia. This gave the first impressions of the religion expansion, tribes and geographical structures of siberia. The clash in numbers and technology is great here. The mongolian superpowers can be discussed, but the attack was for real. This was for the time the biggest and strongest fortification of the whole siberia.
1. Blind sentry 2. Flying sharpshooters 3. Swede leads Mongols in Siberia 4. Russians do not use bayonets 5. Or formations - better die in skirmishes Historical accuracy 10/10
1. Fair point 2. Armies did have special forces even back then you know. Maybe not to this extent but it is realistic. There's a lot of stories from history that seem impossible but did happen 3. Great Northern War. Nations did in fact use espionage to win. 4. Bayonets at this time weren't widespread and made in the fashion we think. They were mostly plug bayonets (you would block the barrel) and mostly used in the west. This is super early 1700s in Siberia. Not a very important place to put new technology. 5. It's a surprise attack. Of course there wouldn't be proper organization. I give this 6/10 no bear cavalry.
First off lol xD I doubt they'd have bayonets during this time. Cuz if it was set in the 1800s then they would have. This mightve been 1700s something.
Jungars are Mongols. When most of them were killed by the Manchus -Chinese, they moved to Russia and became Kalmyks. This film is about the events of the 18th century .
@Amigo Ami The dzungar are one of the 4 oirats, the slave and cannon folder for mongol armies. Manchu are a horde tribe, who had kin relationship with other mongol hordes. The dzungar continue to pillage and enslave the Xinjiang area, during historical time it called north and south dzungaria, they refuse to settle down and tend the land as told by the Chinese led Manchu. They even plunder as far to Tibet. The Manchu emperor is mad and raise its eight banner cavalry and Chinese infantry, led them to battle in dzungaria area and the dzungar was annihilated once and for all by the Manchu chinese. The remaining fled west and Manchu successfully pacify the area and rename it Xinjiang and broughtvtheir mongol kin men’s to settle in those area, this was in around 1600s. Kalmyks were a totally different tribes compare to dzungar, they are more related to the mongol and was also serving in the Mongolian armies as well
@@alvintheng8501 in 16-17th century western Dzungars moved toward volga and eastern Dzungars was left in the area. After the genocide in mid 18th century western Dzungars now settled in both size of Volga river tried to go back to Dzungaria but river didnt freeze in winter so the ones on the eastern side decided to continue on (most died on the way due to starvation and Tsars orders). Whats left on the western side of volga become the present day Kalmyk.
@DiggaSigga Не совсем . Джунгары это тоже монголы различия в языке как у русских севера и русских юга россии. И земли джунгарии монголы не занимали . На части территорий живут как и жили уйгуры и пришлые китайцы часть территорий вернули себе казахи а исторический ареал остался в западной Монголии где они все до сих пор и живут
The funniest thing that the movie and title are both historically accurate. This is a battle between 18th century Russians colonizing Siberia and Dzungars who are indeed Mongols.
i think these horsemen are not mongol, look more like cossack or tatar, i think mongol are more civilization then the rus in these video, by the time they invaded rus in 13th
Russians: Having some guards in a foreign land where we could get attacked by any time? firing my gun at the enemy coming to the gate? What are you talking about?
God I fuckin love the sound effect that the snapping of that one guy's bow made when he shot that Russian guard at the very beginning of this clip, it's just so badass sounding. And by the way, for those interested, this is actually a really good film as a whole, with some great battle/action/fight scenes with the above clip is very much exemplary of.
Долго ржал когда видел как пушки стреляют без лафетов. Прыгающие татары на батутах это жесть. Даже смотреть фильм не буду. Достаточно этих кадров, что бы понять бестолковость фильма.
Actually given the amount of Russian accounts in the comment section I would like to ask this question. Please don’t burn me at the stake. Do most Russians say they’re European or Asian? Or Eurasian? Because Russian is freaking huge. Like damn. But they have such a mix of either or once you cross certain regional areas. Not too mention cultural differences and such. At least that I believe are different. Thank you Russians and have a good day!
Nicholas Conroy as a russian i can tell that we don’t really call ourselves europeans neither asians. We call ourselves just russians. By the way, in russian language there are two similar, but different ways of saying “russian”: «россиянин», what means russian citizen and «русский» what means nation. «россиянин» is not optionally russian by nation, because as you said, there are a lot of nations living on the territory of Russia. I hope you will understand at least something)
Majority of population is concentrated in so-called "European Russia" which geographically is Europe and Russian core territory. Majority of population is Russian (not in the term of citizenship but in their nationality). Genetically ethnic Russians are proved to be East Europeans, having own group there or something (not a specialist in genetics and don't remember that article well), but definitely NOT Mongoloid. Traditional Russian religion is Orthodox Christianity which is European thing. You just have to understand that Russia is the post-imperial state where for long time monarchist regime didn't care, who you are by ethnicity until you are loyal to your oath. Then came the communists who officially were internationalists and while "some nationalities were more equal than the others", official position was that there is only one nationality - "soviet man" (or woman). Current claims about "Russia is not Europe" are politically motivated and borderline fascist just because Europeans once claimed something like this right before massacring ~27 Million Soviets (calling them Russians anyway). When we speak about Russians who claim the same - it is just right populism based on post-Cold War revanchism and theories of "white emigration" of 20th century, and that populism tries to justify Russia not developing in the normal democratic direction because "we have our own way" (no, we don't). Long story short - we are Europeans. Just right at the border with real Asia, which of course affected us a lot throughout our history.
@@eugensumbert4307 Русские разучились воевать за 40 лет, боевики афганцы, помнящие советских, в Чечне уже заметили, какие слабые стали, в Ираке и Сирии просто поразились, вообще дохлые русские стали. Сразу убегают, отступают.
The Russian officer, along with the help of some kalmyk tribesman, were in search for the gold of Yarkand. It wasn't a fight for independence or conquest.
They are not Mongols, they are Crimean Tatars supported by the Ottoman Empire during the Prut River Campaign. (The Great Northern War) They were in a bloody war with Peter the Great
These are Jungars. Not the Mongols and not the Tatars. Events take place at the beginning of the 18th century. If you don’t know the history of Russia, better shut up.))
V DOG This movie is abt the Pugachev Rebellion in Russia in the 1700s so based off that the equipment and everything looks accurate but the title is wrong as those are Cossacks and not mongols....
@@samanvithveeravelli7512 Wtf are you talking about? Pugachev's rebellion took place in 1770ies in region of Volga and Urals. Sure, cossacs, as well as Kalmyks and Tatars, took part in these events. But they had completely different uniforms. This movie is about colonel Bugholtz's expedition to eastern Siberia in 1714-1716, guys in medieval armour are Djungars. And yea, these uniforms are accurate for them
im confused Russians & Mongols VS Russians?
A swedish soldier, captured by Poltava, re-captured by the Mongolians and fighting with them against russians in siberia.
Это русские татары
@@RedArmy1946 какая разница они все равно все равно XD
@@icetea1455 большая, монголы вообще не причастны к завоевываниям территории Евразии.
@@RedArmy1946 в описании фильма вообще сказано что это "Джунгары"
This movie is titled Tobol. It's about the conquest of Siberia, the flying ninjas are not Mongolians, they are Dzhungars, the ancestors of modern Kalmyks or Western Mongolians, something like that, idk. The events that take place in this film happened in the early 18th century, during a war between Russia and Sweden, and you can actually see a man wearing the Swedish uniform. Although it is a mistery how he manages to fire a gun without a gun carriage standing right behind it and survive. Probably the flying ninjas had taught him.
@hasan veysel erol okay😅
Russia V Sweden, The Great Northern War.
*descendant, not ancestor
@@sowpmactavish oops🙂
Dzungar or Zuungar means "left hand" in Mongolian language. Oirads are Mongols and they speak Mongolian language like Khalkhs but Oirads have distinct accent.
Ah yes, I remember the time that the 14th Century Mongols attacked that 18th century Russian fort. If memory serves, it was a close fight until the Mongol air force managed to establish air superiority to devastating effect against the Russian tank companies. Some say it was actually an American proxy war conducted by the CIA.
Sure, these air-forced ninjas are hilarious) Though your sarcasm seems even worse, costumes in this movie are generally accurate. Probably you was confused with "mongols" in the title, but come on, learn history
Bruh....
@@Daylon91 but they were Mongols, they were Dhzungar Mongols
@Justin Edwards apparently they were. I dont remember saying they weren't but I did in my comment
Pls learn history
Me: *oh nice a clip about historical conflict hopefully its historically accuarate*
also me after the first 15 seconds: *aaaand bye*
smasher 64829 “If it’s not historically accurate than I can’t be bothered to watch it!!” You want to take a test afterwards? Haha! STFU and just enjoy it.
Whats the title of the movie
*Bye, have a great time!*
@@crispinjulius5032 " STFU and just enjoy it."
Sending grown-up men flying upwards with just a little iece of fabric, like that?
Enjoy this? This is not some retro-style sci-fi/fantasy movie, now, is it?
Edit:
This is not even about enjoying a movie or not, anyway. This is just about exercising one's right to criticize a few points in a movie, which isn't necessarily contrary to enjoying a movie.
@@crispinjulius5032 I can appreciate some historical and logical leniencies that movies often take. However there's a line, I draw it at L33T SK11LZ 69 420 mongol archers 360 hardscoping the Russians from a trampoline
I doubt that there wouldn't be any Russians looking out while the Mongols used primitive trampolines to pick them off, one by one.
Yes, trampoline warfare, a method so advanced and lethal that you never even hear about it. The armies that today possess this technology keep it top secret, for obvious reasons.
They had Vodka
You guys should read history. The Mongols did conquer Russia and much of eastern Europe.
@@akken2112 we know that, everyone knows that. We are joking.
Mongolian ninjas vs. time-traveling Russian army
That's so accurate.
@Zhendong Pan it's 18th century, Dzhungars
@@kaichiohno Kazakhs and Oirat Mongols too, right?
They are Djungars. Western Mongolian union in 18th hundredfold who captured Swedish gun-master for the raid on a Russian fort
@@wilmerbesitan1200 Kazakhs in no way refer to the movie
0:05 - Mongol space program? xD
Lmao
no its leather x
Kerbal Khan kkkkkkkk.
your such messful. If Amarica in asia 1235. you cant say about it
@@miqueluno9670 BRUH
what's the name of this mount and blade warband mod pls?
Bruh
I wish
12th Century Asia
All jokes aside, if you're looking for something like this in this time period, you can buy mount and blade: with fire and sword. Its 16th century eastern Europe
@@joshhyman894 wish they had added more to that game but it is excellent. Looking forward to mount and blade bannerlord
Apparently the Russians forgot that bayonets exists and are particularly effective against cavalry.
Or just use a foopin sharpened pole as a pike
Bayonets weren't in use during this time. This was still the time of early to mid age muskets you can tell by the uniforms. And the muskets their using.
If there was bayonets they would've immediately have it, on their belt somewhere.
@@koreancowboy42 this war is early 18th century.
Bayonets were everywhere by the 16th century.
@@MrRedsjack From its first use somewhere in southwestern France sometime in the first half of the 17th century, the genius of the invention spread far and wide. History has it that the first acknowledged military use of the bayonet was at Ypres in 1647.
True infact yes. But if it was early 18th century how come these guys don't have bayonets then? Any say in this?
But what I'm saying is that it's very off putting that I don't recognize some of the uniforms. But also I find it ridiculous for four guards just sitting and chatting like it's nothing. Whether their guards or officers or whatever it's dumb, your in the middle of a war and such so why not be more vigilant.
But also not arm your men with bayonets on their guns. It doesn't even look like bayonets would go on those guns, it's so off putting about this scene.
I've seen lots of Major Sharpe British film episodes and honestly they seem quite realistic enough in terms of military and involving bayonets. But also other films
Mongols: Assassin Brotherhood
Russian: Templars
Great mongol empire is gonna fucken kill shite Soviet union
@@khurelbaatarmunkhtulga7760 what? I don't know if you're joking or not lmao
Next: Mongols vs Soviet Union.
Of course Soviet Union fucking the Mongols em all
Когда половцы на Советский Союз напали... © Шура Каретный
Tonight on Deadliest Warrior! Ancient Mongolian horsemen and infantry vs T-80's and Mil 24 Hinds of the old Soviet Military
Lucas Fernández when you stalin beaten by german crying in the bed we gived you fucking 20 million horse witch is helped you win a fucking war
china vs soviet
Is this supposed to be a comedy cause that’s what it feels like
It's a true story. This is the battle of the legendary time travelers vs the elite trampoline mongol legion.
I saw this in a different comment. Apparently this is the war between Sweden and Russia 18 th century . And the Mongols were the dzhungars.
Aha
this is no laughing matter, this is epic
ah here's a salty Eurocentrist
Those Mongols had a gravity hack on, I saw it with my own eyes
Mongol invaded Russia in the Winter
Hitler and Napoleon think it was a good idea.
Hitler and Napoleon both invaded Russia in June.
@@oskarrohde9172 except if you were jewish
Except Mongols were strong and successfully conquered Russia
@@armorsmith43 Still didn't work.
@@oskarrohde9172 Cool story man... it still worked.
Every crucial moment in history hinges on something. It appears this moment hinges on ancient super heroes defying gravity and everything else to be super awesome
Soon as the first dude was tossed in the air, I was like, OK I've had enough lol
all these jumps in the cosmic ninja's style are pretty fantastic, of course.
This is the the Russian conquest of Siberia
0:25 realism enhanced by 100%
1:20 "Aa muu nohoi" hahaha.
hha tiim bnn
hahah sdaa uhtlee inelee
The Mongolian composite bow (in the hands of an expert) was a far superior weapon to the muskets of that era. The chief advantage of the musket was that it was easier to train conscript soldiers to use them, whereas shooting a bow accurately took a much higher degree of skill and training. In the case of Mongol horse archers, that meant constant practice in horsemanship and archery from an early age.
Its such a pity that the First Nations tribes in America couldnt develop a similar type of Composite bow.
@@MrSeekerOfPeace It wouldn't have made a difference. Near the end they had state of the art repeating rifles and still were generally no serious match for the European invaders. The Native Americans usually operated in loose tribal groups and never really had the sense of unified organization and discipline to consistently defend their lands. The Mongols by contrast formed large, very highly disciplined and well organized field armies led by cunning and aggressive generals and hence tended to obliterate all opponents in their path, at least up until a certain point in history. It's interesting how Mongolia went from being this gigantic, multi-continent empire and the world's preeminent military power to being the tiny little backwater nation in Central Asia it is today.
@@moredistractions It is determined now that a large amount of Native populations succumb to diseases. And if composite bows were already a part of First Nations arms. Things like the 13 colonies wouldnt even have existed without armed struggle. You're obviously aware of the bows prowess in medium/close range combat. Something the Native populations took pride in when fighting their opponents.
Basically if the diseases didn’t obliterate all of the native population & they had composite bows then the US would not exist as it did today. The natives would have put a far stiffer resistance under these circumstances possibly keeping the Indian lands Indian
@@michaelweston409 Before the advent of the Walker Colt the pistol and muzzle-loaders were no match for the bow, especially in the hands of mounted warriors like the Comanche who could loose a dozen arrows before a man could reload pistol or muzzle-loader. A century before in the Eastern Woodlands both carried muzzle-loaders of equal quality but in close combat would be reduced to sword versus hatchet. Those Europeans who had considerable experience of the tribes - especially in the mid-18th century as adopted members - noted that in warfare the Europeans would suffer losses above 20:1 and without the crush of numbers in the field could not gain success. In truth, what defeated the tribes was their inability to sustain large numbers in the field; again, the tribes inability to sustain large numbers in the field ( e.g. the gathering immediately before the Battle if the Little Bighorn which fielded perhaps 2,000 or more warriors was unprecedented and beyond the experience of soldiers, plainsmen and scouts).The Indian Wars on the North American continent which lasted from the early 16th through to the late 19th century were won by superior numbers. The US Federal government sponsored numerous trips to Washington D.C. of leaders of whichever tribes were the most recalcitrant at the time to impress upon them the might and numbers of the US. On their return many were disbelieved by the tribe, some like Red Cloud thoroughly shaken by the knowledge, and a few like Sitting Bull refusing to yield in any way. His own relations shoved an arrow through the ears of Sitting Bull's corpse because he would not listen ( yeah, I also recall the same was done to Custer's corpse but the Army narration notes the corpse was not mutilated in anyway save the penis cut off and stuffed into the mouth). What proved true in the Indian Wars as on the Eastern Front in WWII is quantity can become a quality of its own. This means millions of square acres could not be preserved by roaming bands of 150 or so persons which on occasion and for a brief season could coalesce as several bands into a tribe. In truth, as the tribes themselves well knew, they were overcome by the numbers.
This is the Imperial Russian fortress of Omsk, just after the expedition ordered by Peter the Great in early 18th century. Actually the attack was on 1716. The mongols where the Dzhungar khanate which was also in war with China's Qing Dinasty. Important was Semyon Remezov, a cartographer, probably the first one of Russia. This gave the first impressions of the religion expansion, tribes and geographical structures of siberia.
The clash in numbers and technology is great here. The mongolian superpowers can be discussed, but the attack was for real. This was for the time the biggest and strongest fortification of the whole siberia.
So we are in the comquest of siberia by the russians
What? Don't you know the history?
Omsk? TNO reference???
The director of this, so to speak, film was sitting on drugs that expand consciousness ...
🤣😂🤣😂👍
Me: Mom, can we have trampolin?
Mom: we have trampoline at home
Trampoline at home 0:05
Данила, ну ты крейзи!!
What kind of deep shis is this
Guy spies a barrel of powder...
Guy - I've got an explosive idea
1. Blind sentry
2. Flying sharpshooters
3. Swede leads Mongols in Siberia
4. Russians do not use bayonets
5. Or formations - better die in skirmishes
Historical accuracy 10/10
1. Fair point
2. Armies did have special forces even back then you know. Maybe not to this extent but it is realistic. There's a lot of stories from history that seem impossible but did happen
3. Great Northern War. Nations did in fact use espionage to win.
4. Bayonets at this time weren't widespread and made in the fashion we think. They were mostly plug bayonets (you would block the barrel) and mostly used in the west. This is super early 1700s in Siberia. Not a very important place to put new technology.
5. It's a surprise attack. Of course there wouldn't be proper organization.
I give this 6/10 no bear cavalry.
First off lol xD I doubt they'd have bayonets during this time. Cuz if it was set in the 1800s then they would have. This mightve been 1700s something.
Seems like one sequence of Pushkin’s “The captain’s daughter”, which depicts 18 century Pugachev rebellion.
No, it based on modern book "Tobol" depicted russian eastern Siberia in a time of Piter I
@@user-bj9gx5yc3m Thank you for your information. So interesting book and movie!
Фильм называется - Тобол
Some amazing artillery shots with a loose tube & no carriage! LOL!
I actually played Русь молодая over this scene, and it made it 10x better
The mongol army is like the Mongolian version of Navy seal
Wait a minute, this takes place in the early 18th century
Wait thats when mongolia was Wheaking
The same people that call this fake are the same people that watch a single Knight take out an entire army and believe it to be true 😂
This was so anachronistic I expected one of the Russians to pull out a PPSh submachine gun
You see those Huns? They popped out of the snow! Like daisies!
Nonsense! Huns are not the daisies!
Russians: Let’s go kick some hunny bunnnsss!!!
or The conquest of Siberia.
I actually enjoy watching your videos despite its inaccuracies
Jungars are Mongols. When most of them were killed by the Manchus -Chinese, they moved to Russia and became Kalmyks. This film is about the events of the 18th century .
@Amigo Ami
The dzungar are one of the 4 oirats, the slave and cannon folder for mongol armies. Manchu are a horde tribe, who had kin relationship with other mongol hordes. The dzungar continue to pillage and enslave the Xinjiang area, during historical time it called north and south dzungaria, they refuse to settle down and tend the land as told by the Chinese led Manchu. They even plunder as far to Tibet. The Manchu emperor is mad and raise its eight banner cavalry and Chinese infantry, led them to battle in dzungaria area and the dzungar was annihilated once and for all by the Manchu chinese. The remaining fled west and Manchu successfully pacify the area and rename it Xinjiang and broughtvtheir mongol kin men’s to settle in those area, this was in around 1600s.
Kalmyks were a totally different tribes compare to dzungar, they are more related to the mongol and was also serving in the Mongolian armies as well
@@alvintheng8501 in 16-17th century western Dzungars moved toward volga and eastern Dzungars was left in the area. After the genocide in mid 18th century western Dzungars now settled in both size of Volga river tried to go back to Dzungaria but river didnt freeze in winter so the ones on the eastern side decided to continue on (most died on the way due to starvation and Tsars orders). Whats left on the western side of volga become the present day Kalmyk.
@@alvintheng8501 chinese racism
@@alvintheng8501 Manchu not mongol horde…Manchu is Tungus
0:48 oof
As a Mongolian myself 🇲🇳. I have to say this is pretty accurate
Evgheni Gordienco , Exactly bitch
@DiggaSigga Не совсем . Джунгары это тоже монголы различия в языке как у русских севера и русских юга россии. И земли джунгарии монголы не занимали . На части территорий живут как и жили уйгуры и пришлые китайцы часть территорий вернули себе казахи а исторический ареал остался в западной Монголии где они все до сих пор и живут
@@evghenigordienco7915 Come on nigga, your grandma and grandpa said "WE ARE MONGOL! WE ARE NOT SLAVIC! WE WANT INDEPECE!
@@kaiserinvictoria8085 are you mongolian?
@@user-dz4pb2ll3k Yes i am, i have proof too (Би бол Монгол хүн, Бид түрэг биш.) see? it is my proof.
This is so funny. I thought this was a historical film, but it was comedy.
It's actually historical, maybe exaggerated but fairly grounded.
@@nicholasgutierrez9940 what battle is this?
@@Aqua.man045 The scene portrayed is probably made up but the conflict was real. Just part of Russia's push east.
The funniest thing that the movie and title are both historically accurate. This is a battle between 18th century Russians colonizing Siberia and Dzungars who are indeed Mongols.
This looks like an attack to me !!!
way different than the manchu raid on joseon korea. this, "mongols" are just riding around. lol
Это скорее всего фантазии на тему восстания Емельяна Пугачева, а под монголами подразумевается башкиры))) Но батут конечно бесподобен.
Why did that guy try and catch a cannonball with his face? I'm pretty sure they go over such things pre-battle.
Tactical advantages Semper Fidelis Oorah,never underestimate your opponents
I'm not sure to be disappointed in this comment or laugh at it...
i think these horsemen are not mongol, look more like cossack or tatar, i think mongol are more civilization then the rus in these video, by the time they invaded rus in 13th
this is Siberia the beginning of the 18th century ))
if this set in Siberia 1600 or 1700..there are in fact Mongol or their descendant..Golden Horde
@@benediktusbudi8013 да ))
Russians: Having some guards in a foreign land where we could get attacked by any time? firing my gun at the enemy coming to the gate? What are you talking about?
Buen video. Se ve buena la pelicula.
No way Mongol can jump that high, they’re more heavy-built and they attack direct and brutishly.
I should know, I’m Chinese; half-Northerner.
Huangdi wansui
Mongols are not big The average height of Mongolians is always small
God I fuckin love the sound effect that the snapping of that one guy's bow made when he shot that Russian guard at the very beginning of this clip, it's just so badass sounding. And by the way, for those interested, this is actually a really good film as a whole, with some great battle/action/fight scenes with the above clip is very much exemplary of.
I knew Mongolians were scary as fuck in the histories but trampoline Mongolians?, now that shit makes me have nightmares at night.
Долго ржал когда видел как пушки стреляют без лафетов. Прыгающие татары на батутах это жесть. Даже смотреть фильм не буду. Достаточно этих кадров, что бы понять бестолковость фильма.
не придирайтесь..ну, дурь..и что из того?
@@asker223 люди на это смотрят и делаются дураками.
Как обычно секретные материалы, танки под парусами и все такое.
"Батуты" использовали чукчи, а не как не татары.
Совершенно верно. Очередной высер очередного говнорежиссера и говносценариста.
Кстати первые пушки таки стреляли без лафетов, с земляных насыпей. Но то был 14-15 век)
2:38,lol😂😂😂
Damn are u sure these guys are mongols or ninjas for what they have on it looks heavy
Ah yes because they had guns in the 13th century
fire lance ?
@@Orgil. no
@@votesus9819 i mean fire lance is gun
@@Orgil. I mean muskets
@@Orgil. Also it still doesn't make sense
Actually given the amount of Russian accounts in the comment section I would like to ask this question. Please don’t burn me at the stake.
Do most Russians say they’re European or Asian? Or Eurasian? Because Russian is freaking huge. Like damn. But they have such a mix of either or once you cross certain regional areas. Not too mention cultural differences and such. At least that I believe are different.
Thank you Russians and have a good day!
Nicholas Conroy as a russian i can tell that we don’t really call ourselves europeans neither asians. We call ourselves just russians. By the way, in russian language there are two similar, but different ways of saying “russian”: «россиянин», what means russian citizen and «русский» what means nation. «россиянин» is not optionally russian by nation, because as you said, there are a lot of nations living on the territory of Russia. I hope you will understand at least something)
Majority of population is concentrated in so-called "European Russia" which geographically is Europe and Russian core territory. Majority of population is Russian (not in the term of citizenship but in their nationality). Genetically ethnic Russians are proved to be East Europeans, having own group there or something (not a specialist in genetics and don't remember that article well), but definitely NOT Mongoloid. Traditional Russian religion is Orthodox Christianity which is European thing.
You just have to understand that Russia is the post-imperial state where for long time monarchist regime didn't care, who you are by ethnicity until you are loyal to your oath. Then came the communists who officially were internationalists and while "some nationalities were more equal than the others", official position was that there is only one nationality - "soviet man" (or woman).
Current claims about "Russia is not Europe" are politically motivated and borderline fascist just because Europeans once claimed something like this right before massacring ~27 Million Soviets (calling them Russians anyway). When we speak about Russians who claim the same - it is just right populism based on post-Cold War revanchism and theories of "white emigration" of 20th century, and that populism tries to justify Russia not developing in the normal democratic direction because "we have our own way" (no, we don't).
Long story short - we are Europeans. Just right at the border with real Asia, which of course affected us a lot throughout our history.
Ilya Berberov чаво?
Still, even after 100 years of genocide, we are the largest European nation, and have all rights to be.
stalin was a georgian who ruled russia
А чё, кони не летают, как монголы? А то сразу же на лошади бы и взапрыгнул 😁
А че ты башкир от монгол отличить не можешь? Это ж отрывок явно из фильма про Пугачевское восстание.
@@Reder63 То есть башкиры могут с конём сразу взопрыгнуть?
@@eugensumbert4307 Это война с джунгарами калмыками.
@@eugensumbert4307 Тогда они там многих срусских убили, но мало видать еще нужно.
@@eugensumbert4307 Русские разучились воевать за 40 лет, боевики афганцы, помнящие советских, в Чечне уже заметили, какие слабые стали, в Ираке и Сирии просто поразились, вообще дохлые русские стали. Сразу убегают, отступают.
Chronicles of the incredibly silly.
The real enemy of Dzungars was Manchu emperor Qin. Russian influence did not reach the area yet.
this is the name of the movie The Battle of Siberia - Battle of the Nations
the film Tobol
What is the title of this movie?
Oirats very important in central Asian history. They found yuan dynast, four oirat khanate, dzungar khanate and kalmyk, telengit, tuvan republics
I thought there were only flying dutchmen?
1:40 best scene
And here we see the russian counterpart to the US Army vs. Native Amercians.
Nice try but Non !
and why
The Russian officer, along with the help of some kalmyk tribesman, were in search for the gold of Yarkand. It wasn't a fight for independence or conquest.
It’s like assassins creed but Mongolian version
Shall i know the movie name 😅
This is what happens when you are cheating on a game.
Is that a fucking 17th century russian soldier with 13th century Mongols 💀
Like a swarm of locusts, the Mongol horde emerged from the East, driven by a madman named Genghis Khan...
Is that a Swedish carolean ?
It is!
Yes his name was Johan Gustaf Renat. He had a very interesting life en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_Gustaf_Renat
They are not Mongols, they are Crimean Tatars supported by the Ottoman Empire during the Prut River Campaign. (The Great Northern War)
They were in a bloody war with Peter the Great
Hold on, This is war between Golden horde Mongols vs Kieven Rus.
Nope, it's the Dzungar Khanate (and a captured Swedish soldier) vs Peter the Great's army
These are Jungars. Not the Mongols and not the Tatars. Events take place at the beginning of the 18th century.
If you don’t know the history of Russia, better shut up.))
What movie is this ? Please say at the beginning lol. Conquest of Siberia ?
This reminds me of my Great Horde conquest of Moskva on EU4.
This not mongol, this Dzhungarian
Dzhungarian is mongolian
Что за дичь?
Как фильм называется...
"Тобол"
There is a another movie it's called 300, but that kinda difference at least will be present
That make me remember of michel strogoff of Jule Verne
Mongolian assasin’s creed
sounds cool i wish they make one
god those mongols had giant clothes but were so small you cant even see their face
hahah…
-starts off with mongolians sieging an outpost using one of the trampoline's ancestors
name movie please?
In German, "Schlacht um Sibirien". English Titel, i don't know...
@Josh Herman muy gracioso
@@JB17521or te lo agradezco
The conquest of Siberia.
@@carlosmcardoso gracias por tu respuesta, ya la busque y descargue para verla completa
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Вот что : не было никакой добровольной вхождении в Россию ! Колонизация с Урала до Сахалина не хлебом с солью а через меч и кровь!
в 1993году сами подписали договор о создании рф добровольно.а потом и конституцию приняли на всеобщем свободном голосовании
По своей крови и рядом не стоит с Америкой
As far as I know, Soviet Elf didn't come in time.
What the hell is this ?
During the time of, "With fire and sword". This actually happened.
Gencis Khan vs Stalingrad
It actually happened
Destruction: *100*
what movie ? The "Tobol" ?
It is Bashkirs, not Mongols. During Pugachev's Rebellion
Have you ever heard Dzungar Khanate ?
does anyone know the real name of the movie
In German, "Schlacht um Sibirien". English Titel, i don't know...
@@JB17521or Thanks I just found it www.imdb.com/title/tt9795368/
When was this? This is probably hundreds of years after the Khans based on the Russian fort, dress and weapons.
V DOG This movie is abt the Pugachev Rebellion in Russia in the 1700s so based off that the equipment and everything looks accurate but the title is wrong as those are Cossacks and not mongols....
@@samanvithveeravelli7512 Wtf are you talking about? Pugachev's rebellion took place in 1770ies in region of Volga and Urals. Sure, cossacs, as well as Kalmyks and Tatars, took part in these events. But they had completely different uniforms. This movie is about colonel Bugholtz's expedition to eastern Siberia in 1714-1716, guys in medieval armour are Djungars. And yea, these uniforms are accurate for them
Shelnakh wait really?
My friend told me it was abt Pugachev’s rebellion.....
But thanks for info though
Much appreciated
@@samanvithveeravelli7512 yeah, no problem
the comment section is the best part about this video 💀
An excellent 3:21. I'll have to find the whole film😊👍
Medieval 2 Total War meets Empire Total War