2018 NBA Draft Flashback: Bill Simmons Reacts As Luka Doncic Falls | The Ringer

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  • In this throwback clip from the 2018 NBA draft, Bill Simmons reacts in real time as multiple teams pass on Luka Doncic and he is ultimately traded to the Dallas Mavericks.
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  • @Ryan-qq8bh
    @Ryan-qq8bh Před 10 dny +17

    Man, it's good to see Tjarks up front.

  • @carsonkahla9162
    @carsonkahla9162 Před 2 lety +287

    Anyone saying Ayton was the right pick is just asinine. Aytons “fit” doesn’t outweigh just how much better Luka is than him.

    • @jaredgrube6320
      @jaredgrube6320 Před 2 lety +1

      I mean, they made the finals before Luka. Seems to be working out

    • @TheAliasGaming
      @TheAliasGaming Před 2 lety +37

      @@jaredgrube6320 yeah because they TOTALLY made it because of Ayton and not Chris Paul. If we’re being asinine about it like that, they WIN the finals if they have Luka on that team instead of Ayton.

    • @riccardoferrazzo8283
      @riccardoferrazzo8283 Před 2 lety

      @@TheAliasGaming I am not sure they get to the final without the defensive anchoring of Ayton

    • @095mateusg
      @095mateusg Před 2 lety +12

      @@jaredgrube6320 Yeah, like Ayton was the biggest factor in that. Instead of the two all-nba level guys on the team? Nah it was definetely Ayton.

    • @jaredgrube6320
      @jaredgrube6320 Před 2 lety +1

      @@095mateusg just saying the pick worked out. Not every pick HAS to be the overall best player. Luka would take the ball out of cp3 hands, sounds like a bad fit.

  • @jayjones9225
    @jayjones9225 Před 2 lety +195

    Still amazing that Luka fell that far. He’s gonna be an all-timer. Bill’s point is spot on too. Who wins the title every year? Teams with perimeter players who can create for themselves and others

    • @gonzaloveloso2891
      @gonzaloveloso2891 Před 2 lety +9

      He doubled down by saying ""I WOULD TRADE ANYONE ON MY ROSTER FOR DONCIC"" Basically saying that to the Suns and the Kings.

    • @charleyrubey2839
      @charleyrubey2839 Před 2 lety +2

      True but at the time the suns had DBook. They didn’t need and they still don’t need Luka. They needed either Ayton, Bagley, or Bamba and they by far selected the right choice. Where as the kings messed up like they always do. Ayton makes the suns a championship team, Luka doesn’t.

    • @gonzaloveloso2891
      @gonzaloveloso2891 Před 2 lety +2

      @@charleyrubey2839 Would Phoenix trade Ayton and Booker for Luca?

    • @charleyrubey2839
      @charleyrubey2839 Před 2 lety

      @@gonzaloveloso2891 no. Luka and cp3 makes them WAY WORSE.

    • @evannelson4203
      @evannelson4203 Před rokem +9

      @@gonzaloveloso2891 I bet they would now hahahahaha

  • @NKSoulMusic
    @NKSoulMusic Před rokem +54

    RIP Tjarks

  • @CalumAtkinson
    @CalumAtkinson Před rokem +30

    man, i miss this roster of ringer nba talent

  • @a.v.s.c9150
    @a.v.s.c9150 Před 2 lety +16

    The "I told you so" moment

  • @frozen1762
    @frozen1762 Před 2 lety +87

    I remember Kawhi trade was around this draft and commenting on some video back then that if they can the Spurs should trade Kawhi for a pick to take Doncic and some Spurs fan replied to me they are in "win now mode" something about their culture and how it would take a long time for someone like Doncic to develop.

    • @rickster8555
      @rickster8555 Před 2 lety +28

      Lmao, Doncic was one of the most NBA-ready prospects at the time of the draft. That's a bs excuse.

    • @shammycat3538
      @shammycat3538 Před 2 lety +20

      Yeah, Luka was the most accomplished prospect in the history of the NBA draft. As a Mav’s fan, I’m happy they passed.

    • @hahayessir400
      @hahayessir400 Před rokem +2

      Look. If popovich had luka. He would have a weapon in his arsenal. Just saying. As a european coach. Popovich knows how to handle european basketball players

  • @quincysthillaire
    @quincysthillaire Před 2 lety +19

    This should get Simmons a gm job. Take this video on the interview

    • @JuicyCharon
      @JuicyCharon Před 13 dny +1

      Oh boy you must have never head Simmons speak.
      Also Ryan Hollins had Luka as the number 1 pick. It didn't take a genius to figure that out.

  • @syruplease
    @syruplease Před 10 měsíci +6

    RIP tjarks. miss u buddy

  • @humzatariq6943
    @humzatariq6943 Před rokem +17

    60-21-10 tonight 😭

  • @jacksoneast3131
    @jacksoneast3131 Před 2 lety +4

    i love you and your sports takes bill simmons

  • @donatheexplorer7292
    @donatheexplorer7292 Před 2 lety +17

    He isn't wrong. Luka is so good as a prospect.

    • @dariuspamellon4896
      @dariuspamellon4896 Před rokem +2

      They are drooling on Victor but Luka dominated the euroleague as an 18 year old lol

  • @matthogg2252
    @matthogg2252 Před 2 lety +10

    No , ‘catastrophe’ wasn’t strong enough.

  • @CM-cw1pi
    @CM-cw1pi Před 2 lety +19

    Bill need to be a GM

  • @vaannebilim
    @vaannebilim Před rokem

    this is pure gold sports journalism

  • @peixeiragamers
    @peixeiragamers Před rokem +3

    It is funny to see all of those "nah The suns have Book... the Hawks have Trae, they don't need this Doncic guy" 6 months ago... Luka didn't need much to make those comments look stupid

  • @zpacify
    @zpacify Před 2 lety +38

    This show you that the so called "blog boys"KD has been talking about know more about basketball than players who's been in the league. Lol. The ringer guys know their stuff. Former players think they know more just because they played in the league. But player analysis and strategy requires logic and actual analysis which most former players dont like to do or dont know how to do. Most players are driven by their biases and that clouds their reasoning. Most just go with certain rules of thumb or archaic beliefs and refuse to question what they know what is true if it's actually true.

    • @andymardubas6564
      @andymardubas6564 Před rokem

      So true

    • @Bliu2th
      @Bliu2th Před 11 měsíci +1

      "Blog boy" I think actually came from an interview KD did with Bill Simmons on his podcast lol

  • @gaiusvelleius
    @gaiusvelleius Před rokem +1

    peak ringer

  • @ahmede4526
    @ahmede4526 Před rokem +3

    Proof The Ringer is the best NBA media outlet.

    • @JuicyCharon
      @JuicyCharon Před 13 dny +1

      You didn't need to be an expert to know Luka should have been 1st.
      Ryan Hollins also had Luka as the 1st pick in his draft board.

  • @rabejw15
    @rabejw15 Před 2 lety +2

    Shout out to bill, he sees the fucking future

  • @jayjesuswake3140
    @jayjesuswake3140 Před rokem +6

    Simmons was 1 of the only 1s pulling 4 doncic ...everybody else was sayin bust

  • @chrisrobertson5034
    @chrisrobertson5034 Před 10 měsíci +2

    rip tjarks

  • @victorvic4659
    @victorvic4659 Před 2 lety +3

    I like this.
    And i feel bad for Kings

    • @zoulzopan
      @zoulzopan Před rokem +2

      don't be you're just wasting energy

  • @alvin081988
    @alvin081988 Před 12 dny

    Remember Dennis Scott Jr became irrelevant after Luka Takeover so assuming Sacramento took Luka it might end up the same with Fox

  • @dokjupidu2068
    @dokjupidu2068 Před 2 lety +5

    i croatia we all know luka will be something special..... before nba:))))

    • @dokjupidu2068
      @dokjupidu2068 Před 2 lety

      @MBYahooo bellieve to me.... i know before he will do that in nba. :) i wish a will be like this in lottery:)))

  • @lexzone-six9912
    @lexzone-six9912 Před 2 lety +8

    Bill Simmons is the reason people hate Trae Young for no legitimate reason.

    • @DemostationshN
      @DemostationshN Před 2 lety +7

      not true he said trae is also gonna be really good. he said mo bamba gonna be a bust

    • @riccardoferrazzo8283
      @riccardoferrazzo8283 Před 2 lety +1

      Also, Trae Young is a bit of a weirdo. I think the problem is how he looks.

  • @KK-pm7ud
    @KK-pm7ud Před 2 lety

    Maybe they should have drafted Ja at one as well.

  • @Gordmanbmf
    @Gordmanbmf Před 2 lety +2

    Does CZcams have the bandwidth to post the videos of when simmons was Dead Wrong?

    • @AB-sw4kb
      @AB-sw4kb Před 10 dny

      No, we'd run out of available URLs

  • @brendanlittle2498
    @brendanlittle2498 Před 2 lety +3

    Is CP3+Book+Ayton better than Luka+Book?

    • @rishabhsinha1340
      @rishabhsinha1340 Před 2 lety +16

      You do realize Luka is still on his rookie contract, right? The amount of money they are paying CP3 they could got themselves a good center. So it no like Luka+Book or CO+Book+DA

    • @x-49nightraven
      @x-49nightraven Před rokem +3

      Lol definitely is after this match

    • @zoulzopan
      @zoulzopan Před rokem +4

      @@rishabhsinha1340 honestly I would just run small ball like the Nets and sign an over price center. It's insane how ppl still defend the 2018 draft choices.

  • @Lordandmaster26
    @Lordandmaster26 Před 2 lety +16

    Alright let’s hear some of your Devin Booker takes

    • @willfulton9276
      @willfulton9276 Před 2 lety +6

      I would also love to hear his Lamelo ball pre-draft takes. Surely he thought highly of him as a prospect?

  • @poker2face
    @poker2face Před 19 dny

    If only the Hawks or Kings had drafted him...they maybe could make the playoffs and lose in the second round some more. I really don't get why this guy can't win more games. As good as he is he doesn't seem to have much of an impact on wins for some reason.

  • @TheGrannyBangerz
    @TheGrannyBangerz Před 10 měsíci

    Suns head coach at the time was Luka's national team head coach wasn't it?

    • @sld1776
      @sld1776 Před 3 měsíci

      And he lobbied to get Luka, to no avail.

  • @homerthompson416
    @homerthompson416 Před 15 dny

    God I so badly wanted the Kings to trade that #2 pick for Kawhi when he was forcing his way out so the Spurs could draft Luka. He seemed as obvious a #1 pick as Wemby given the way Doncic dominated Euroleague at 19 when most European teams hate playing NBA bound teenagers.

    • @ryanmussell739
      @ryanmussell739 Před 12 dny

      That is a interesting what if ?
      I had never heard of.

  • @wildman36845
    @wildman36845 Před 2 lety +4

    BC : before Covid

  • @diskodriska5338
    @diskodriska5338 Před 2 lety +2

    nostradamus bill lol
    its just sad that the mavs are trying to put luka in a box, he is so frustrated with it he doesn't even want to get in pro shape

    • @IamJdTrent
      @IamJdTrent Před 2 lety +1

      I don't ever see Luka showing up after the off-season with 8pack abs...even if he's happy. And frankly,I don't think he needs to look like Giannis to win. This roster just needs some tweaks,or he's gonna be gone soon.

  • @jstdun
    @jstdun Před rokem

    Doncic is that dude. Wonder how his public perception will change after this disappointing season for the Mavs. Hope he comes back with a vengeance to murder the league.

    • @EduSanjuan777
      @EduSanjuan777 Před 26 dny

      He totally did

    • @jstdun
      @jstdun Před 26 dny

      @@EduSanjuan777 indeed he did. Dude is a certified baller.

  • @4UST1N
    @4UST1N Před 11 dny

    I understand suns taking Ayton, but Kings, Scouts and GM deserves to be fired,

  • @larry2timezlarry2timez66

    Duh kings

  • @josereyes1148
    @josereyes1148 Před 15 dny

    I actually had shake milton going number 1

  • @blblbluh4196
    @blblbluh4196 Před rokem

    Has anyone in that room ever picked up a basketball??

    • @moneyball647
      @moneyball647 Před měsícem +1

      And yet they were right vs the so called former players and hoopers 😂

  • @spol
    @spol Před 6 dny

    these comments are insane in here.

  • @jumpinjahosaphat4648
    @jumpinjahosaphat4648 Před rokem +2

    My cousin was assistant GM of the Kings at the time, I told him straight up to take Luka, called him a white Harden... he didn't listen...

    • @zoulzopan
      @zoulzopan Před rokem

      what did your cousin say in response? or how did the org react now?

    • @PK-ts8iz
      @PK-ts8iz Před rokem +1

      @@zoulzopan "But Marvin Bagley can double jump." Probably

  • @josephkim7512
    @josephkim7512 Před 2 lety

    to be fair Simmons said trae would be a flop so..... yea

    • @iank3924
      @iank3924 Před 2 lety

      ummmm that possibility isn't over?

    • @lewystyles
      @lewystyles Před 12 dny

      And what has Trae ever done? He’s not in the same sport as Luka

  • @Gordmanbmf
    @Gordmanbmf Před 2 lety

    Hey team post a video of the one time I was right 5 years ago.

  • @tincao3840
    @tincao3840 Před 2 lety

    Suns picked was fine, they needed a center but Kings in otherhand.... Lol

  • @armin38822
    @armin38822 Před 2 lety +6

    '' hey I'm Bill Simmons,I'm the cool everyday guy but I'm also an important guy,and hey I'm always right,look at me being historicly right when a lot of people in charge and fans were wrong. Hey,I'm Bill Simmons,I make you feel like I'm just like you,the next day you can have a beer with,we have the same problems,wink,wink..meanwhile I'm a multi millioner and a CEO.

  • @maciedixon3983
    @maciedixon3983 Před 2 lety +4

    The suns really don’t regret it anymore. Who knows how Luka and Devin would have worked together

    • @brandonperez2267
      @brandonperez2267 Před 2 lety +44

      Oh they regret it.

    • @danielluc4433
      @danielluc4433 Před 2 lety +15

      They could just draft Luka and trade him for someone like Ayton and 3 first picks now :D

    • @luisgomez-jordanamartin4776
      @luisgomez-jordanamartin4776 Před 2 lety +4

      I think he will have been an incredible match. Maybe it would have been an inexperienced team, but all that we say about the need for a secondary creator in the Mavs you have it in booker, and he is massive without the ball. It will have been an incredible fit i think.

    • @devilpvp571
      @devilpvp571 Před 2 lety +2

      They would rather have Luka then Devin

    • @Kauko13
      @Kauko13 Před 2 lety +3

      This is why they signed Ayton already... right? ;D

  • @wyattworld47
    @wyattworld47 Před 2 lety +6

    Oh let’s go! Bill and Russillo and KOC are great, the rest of the company sucks

  • @sebeku2
    @sebeku2 Před 2 lety +1

    Does Luka knock the Knicks out of the playoffs? Does Luka upset the #1 seed Sixers....Does Luka take the NBA Champs Milwaukee to 6 games on a bad ankle?

    • @zwau
      @zwau Před 2 lety +3

      Easily yes to all of those , because the Clips with hewlthy Kawhi and PG were better than those teams.

    • @Klocks420
      @Klocks420 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes lol

    • @ubadman1
      @ubadman1 Před rokem +2

      Hawks fans are delusional.

    • @Silvuhh
      @Silvuhh Před rokem

      Does trae even sniff the playoffs in the west? East is easy mode man Lebron dominated the east BY HIS FUCKING SELF 🤣

  • @CheefChaos
    @CheefChaos Před 2 lety +3

    Ayton 9-0 VS Luca, Luca and Booker never would have worked.

    • @user-tagir0552
      @user-tagir0552 Před 2 lety +11

      Why? Imagine instead of Paul Luka with Booker, Devin now plays as secondary playmaker with Paul. And Booker is exactly the player you need near Doncic, who can play of the ball with him and can run offence without him.

    • @CheefChaos
      @CheefChaos Před 2 lety +1

      @@user-tagir0552 No. The defense would be a mess, CP3 brought stability to the entire team that Luca isn't ready to bring.

    • @NerdChannelBrasil
      @NerdChannelBrasil Před 2 lety +5

      @@CheefChaos except Luka was 19yo and CP3 was 80.... With Luka you have 10 years of a team, with CP3 you have 3.
      You are watching Luka and Brunson's backcourt? Luka's defense? She is shooting like shit, but the rest is up.

    • @hardywoodaway9912
      @hardywoodaway9912 Před 2 lety +16

      @@CheefChaos If you’re looking at statistics and not at stupid espn you will see that Luka isn’t bad at defense at all.

    • @CheefChaos
      @CheefChaos Před 2 lety

      @@hardywoodaway9912 I was including Booker in that equation as well, not Luca alone, neither all hitting an all defensive team in they career, Ayton is well on his way as he is a true anchor and undeniably clutch on d and offense for the Sun's.

  • @csmooth202
    @csmooth202 Před rokem +1

    RIP Tjarks

  • @masala716
    @masala716 Před 11 měsíci +1

    RIP Tjarks