The Life Of Cheslie Kryst | Zerlina.
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
- After Miss USA 2019 Cheslie Kryst died by suicide over the weekend, Imani Gandy joins the show to discuss mental health and how we can get rid of the stigma.
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#CheslieKryst #Suicide #MissUSA
I have suffered from depression since I was 12 and I'm 43 now. Trucking actually saved my life. I like working alone and traveling. When I see someone so beautiful and accomplished end their life it makes my depression worse. I know how hopeless she felt because I've had those feelings. Thankfully I'm able to have a normal life.
Kudos to you for finding your vocation to align with your quality of being.
Can you describe the feeling of hopelessness you've had?
Yes, I can totally relate to that. Solitude has helped me as well as disconnecting from social media.
I think success is just being happy with your life even if you don't have degrees. Being content.
I agree! And giving yourself grace to rest
True. This is not our permanent home after all.
I so looked up to her, she was a force to be reckoned with. She was the first contestant in a beauty pageant I felt was someone who was truly a queen. She worked her butt off every day of her life. My heart is broken, I was so excited to see her big moves in life. Knowing she was suffering so much is a huge gut punch.
I wish she could have just said I quit. But she was an overachiever and overachievers always are driven to work. I fall in that category but I finally have decided to retire. You have to learn to call in sick. Take sick leaves and get doctors excuses. Perfectionists and overachievers find it very hard to say no. They are driven. It's an inner core thing. I wasn't aware of her before for some strange reason. Now that I know who she was, I feel such a loss for her having been taken from us. She was such a beautiful, beautiful person. A smart woman, a well spoken, intelligent person and all around super winner. I feel such a void. We have suffered such a loss. Suicide not only hurts the families, it hurts society as a whole who look up to them and who are inspired by them.
This is so tragic.💔 I'm so sorry Cheslie. My condolences to her family.
The BEST conversation I've seen about Cheslie Kryst's tragic end. Thank you! I will share this widely and hope MSNBC gets this to her co-workers at CBS and Extra. I've watched them reporting on her death, and I feel this will help them her Cheslie leave a legacy... of an awareness of the mental health challenges discussed here. This video has only been seen by about 9500 people so far. I hope many more see it! Thank you again!
You're absolutely correct- depression is labeled as mental health, but the truth is way deeper than that, we are dealing with isolation and loneliness like never before. People don't know where to turn for answers.
Turn to God!
@@valerieshaver2404 yes this is true, and even GOD knows that no man is an island..
Wrong I'm sorry to say..
OMGosh. "The woman who never cried". That term just hit me. My mantra for over 30 years of my life as a Registered Nurse and as an adult Black woman was "Never let them see you sweat (cry)". So many of us have lived a life disconnected from our feelings, until we can't. Thank you for discussing this suicide in such an open and compassionate manner. We need to let each other know it's ok to not feel alright, to feel sad, to cry, to get help. Let's keep talking about caring for our mental wellbeing.
Cheslie was BIRACIAL. We have to become more comfortable with making that distinction. Because her being part white plays a role as well. But yes I totally get what you are saying. BW need to be more open about their pain and we should be allowed to.
Are you a subspecies separate from the rest of humanity?
When you get to the point in life where it doesn't matter what others think then you are truly free. RIP
❤
Absolutely agree. Took me along time to arrive at that point. Decades. Wish I was 20 when I got there but I arrived eventually. Lot of unnecessary hurt in between. R.I.P. young lady.
She’s still making a difference even in death. In my eyes, that’s an accomplishment in itself. We will always have these concerns and pains as long as we continue to try to live in their circles and systems built for them. There’s no way around it. It is exhausting playing a role to function in roles that aren’t built for us. I can completely relate as I also work in white corporate America
@@Floridacoastwriter Micro AGGRESSION and Micro MANAGEMENT! Both were EQUALLY explained, with examples on what it looks like when it is done to you! YOU fit into that category! You see, I also work in Corporate America, and I also agree with Serena Jacobs-Austin's statement! Nobody is being racist, if the story is talking about the micro-aggression THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH IN CORPORATE AMERICA!!! Stop playing stupid! It's just like the example that was JUST given, "They will TELL you that, it's not what you think," or, "That wasn't what I meant," when in actuality, IT IS!
I agree with you sista. Until black folks build our own institutions these issues will continue. Individualism, self-sufficiency, and personal achievement has become the pathology of many women. The belief that "success" comes from achievement on a job instead of having a Family. And failing to secure a teammate (man/husband) who will cover you as you transition through life. Many women in black society are no longer in alignment with the Laws of Nature. A woman's purpose is to be a man's helper- not a laborer. There are consequences for violating what Nature created.
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT BUT WE AS MINORITIES ALL LIVE IN THEIR CIRCLES AND SYSTEM SOCIETY THAT WAS BUILT BY THEM ALONE IT'S SICKENING.
@@Floridacoastwriter I am still tryna figure out what she’s talkin about lololol
Amen
I am a Black attorney and I experienced the exact same microagressions!! I experienced the same thing from racist judges in the district I work in. They just kept asking me if I was a Paralegal even though she was previously introduced to me as the new attorney and I appeared before her in court. I had many staff members do the same. I was continually harassed at several legal jobs leading me to eventually sue for discrimination! It was very depressing. It used to be so annoying when they would tell off color jokes or ask if I knew “Beyonce” or black rappers simply because I am Black. They would say I spoke like a “white” person! I had the same exact experiences they are speaking about! It can really lead to suicidal thoughts. Thank God I quit and had God. I definitely see myself in Cheslie. That’s why is scares me to see what happened to her. I’m also in beauty pageants. So I’ve been following her career since she won Miss USA. So it’s been very painful to know she is gone. She definitely did not deserve this tragic end.😭😥😥😢😢
You have achieved, you are shinning bright. Do not let anyone dim your light. Ignorance is an issue that people that made these remarks to you must grapple with. Hold your head high, be secure in who you are and keep on achieving for yourself.
I'm so sorry you have gone through this too. I am going to share this video widely, in the hope that it will help wake people up to this kind of psychological abuse. I wish you all the best... and am happy you found God.
I WAS COMING HOME FROM THE MILITARY IN UNIFORM AND A WHITE MAN THOUGHT I WAS BELLMAN, I SAY WHAT, HE SAY OH I,M SORRY.
Glad you had God in you,always pray & trust in him.If you feel your down ,just pray & lift up everything to him.
You can't move from one of the friendliest (and best integrated) states in the country like North Carolina, into NYC - and not feel an uphill transition... it would easy to feel like an outsider to nearly 9 million neighbors. 20% of a suicides in NYC are building jumpers.
My depression hit me when I lost my twin brother. I was in a deep depression I was drinking like a crazy person, I quite a high paying job, I couldn't get out of bed. I was a total mess.
This is real people, it's real.
I’m so sorry for loss of your beloved brother. I lost my brother 1988 his wife ran him over with a car left. Him to diie.. I’ve struggled with depression most of my life. Abusive relationship Men &family members. God only reason in still here. Tears stream down my face as I asked him take him to take me Hone with him. This worlds so cruel. I’m here for a reason he’s got a plan for my life and your Sweetheart ♥️Stay encouraged king of Glory 🌟Loves❤️ us more than we Can Imagine.
Wow, gutwrenching. I pray you were able to get thru the worst of it. You are right, it's real. And when it's happening to you, it's agony. God bless you.
I know this must have hit Zerlina hard because of the similarities she spoke of. I'm an early 60's white guy with a bit of wanderlust and insatiable curiosity, so Anthony Bourdain's death hit me like a truck.
Omg yes Anthony and Kate spade. I was so shocked 😳.
Thank you Zerlina. We needed this. The loss of Cheslie was so tragic. Hopefully she is now at peace. Condolences to her family. It can't be said often enough, if you need help reach out and get it. Remember, suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
And some problems can always be a problem w/o immediate resolutions! Like micro-aggressions related to our black skin and raci$m. Something black folks are dealing with almost daily. We have to begin to figure out how to deal with and cope in the face of adversity with these issues! Black people really need specialized mental health treatments specific to our needs!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
We have math and home economics, etc. growing up, but there is no training or verbiage for today's youth on the impact of and how to appropriately navigate microaggressions without being labeled as a problem person. It does not feel temporary when there are people who don't believe you belong based on things about yourself you can't or don't want to change.
Honestly, there was so much wisdom and power she could have shared to help youth understand how to come to terms with this.
It is truly heart breaking to lose a woman of this caliber. I will definitely honor her legacy by being aware to check in on my strong friends.;💜
I’m a Black attorney and I have experienced all of those microaggressions as a Black attorney! I had to sue one of my prior law jobs due to bullying and discrimination and constant harassment due to my ethnicity. It was so depressing and I also felt suicidal, but God is who saved my life. ❤️🙏🏾❤️ I ended up quitting my dream job due to constant harassment from Co workers and even the secretaries. I was physically ill due to my career as an attorney. There is a lot of racism in the legal field!😥
If you watched her tiktok video, it was clear that she is way too sensitive to some of the issues and oftern misconstrued a normal line of questioning and compliments as being racists. People of color face micro aggressions from time to time but it does not imply that they go take their lives especially when America has made the progress it has when it comes to diversity. This entire narrative that racism killed her is hate mongering and just dangerous.
She may have had mental health issues that one is not privy to. So please stop making it about race. She was working in HOLLYWOOD which is the most woke place to work in as of now. She was fully acceptted and adored. If she could not see that because of how sensitive she was then thats something one seeks councelling for.
You can not go and blame white people for someone committing suicide. That just defeats the enire purpose of BLM.
@@mecca1395 None of us knows what she was experiencing in her life. We have absolutely no right to stand in judgement of her or how she may have felt. Too sensitive? Who is to judge that? Certainly not you. May she rest in peace. May we all take a moment of self-reflection and find compassion in our hearts for those who struggle in ways we don't fully understand.
NaturalVee67 I have the right to my opinion to what I have watched. Calling a black person articulate is not racism or micro aggression. asking a black girl if she has a good relationship with her biological father given she was close to her white stepdad is not racism. So if you have not watched it then keep quiet.
And without any form of proof it is super convenient and exploitative to blame someone’s death on racism. That is race baiting and nothing else
Glad you now seem to be doing well , you take care.
@@mecca1395 Your attitude and your opinion shows EXACTLY what micro aggression is. Keep your micro aggressive racist opinion to yourself.
This is a great interview. I'm so sad for Ms. Kryst and her family. As a person who was diagnosed as crazy after a brutal love affair early in my 20s, I know everything about the microagressions directed at psych patients. People are very quick to note that someone they don't like is "off their meds." It's very cruel.
Heaven forbid you have an emotional response to abuse!
People just don't seem to want to know the unpleasantness that results from being harmed - sometimes even the ones who are supposed to be helping you through it
Micro nothing. That's just called an attitude. She was broken from the start and its unfortunate
@@rmac6420*Seriously wondering if that early "hospitalization" was a 1520 or her being put into a psych ward? Or maybe her attempting suic!de while in a psych ward? Still, so much secrecy surrounding Cheslie and her private life...*
Awesome conversation with no interrupting by the host. Well done
WHY SHE WAS WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THEY THOUGHT OR SAY, SHE WAS ON TOP OF HER GAME.
as difficult as it may seem, just don't care what other people think. Life is too short to be angry at others. When you pass through the pearly gates, it is you alone.
We have to accept that everyone will not like us and just keep it moving. I also agree with your opinion.
I agree too.
Difficult to do if random people do things like walk up to us and touch our hair...
This is by far the best tribute I’ve seen on the loss of this young life. You are not alone even though that’s what you feel. Find a therapist who’s a good fit. The 1st one you see may not be the best fit. As with everything else in this crazy world be a conscientious consumer.
Thanks to CZcams for recommending this video. Thank you beautiful Zerlina and Imani for having this important discussion and telling your stories and experiences. Getting through life isn't a smooth ride for many people even though some people's lives look like bliss. As Cheslie wrote in that Instagram post "May this day bring you rest and peace." I didn't know much about her before her death but I feel her legacy will be about some people having more honest conversations about mental illness and depression RIP Cheslie.
We are Enough!!! my Sympathy
Goes out to her Mother and Family
God Bless
I can’t get this story out of my mind and I’m just wondering what was her last thoughts while jumping….I just can’t imagine. I first heard of Chelsie when she did an interview early last year with Raphael Saadiq on the music in Billie Holiday movie. Then right after the interview I just followed her on Instagram. To me she is very beautiful and I love her beautiful hair and smile. I suffer with mood swings, depression, and anxiety and I had thoughts of killing myself as a teen. I’m 39 now I take my medication and talk to a therapist and pray also that usually helps.
Honestly. It totally changes the narrative on what we think suicidal people look like. Many times when people are battling depression, etc, or are suicidal, they definitely stop caring about their appearance because it’s like, “what’s the point, I already made up my mind to die.” But she looked impeccable, she never indicated that she was distressed...so this has really opened our eyes about suicide and who we consider to be suicidal.
@@BriaBarrows she didn't want anyone to talk her out of it she had made her mind up it was just when! My husband did the same thing!
I once saw a documentary of a bridge, I believe in NY, where some people go to end their lives. One man jumped, but survived. He said on his way down, he changed his mind, but thought it was too late for him. He was happy that he survived.
I wonder if the same thing happened to some who successfully jump to their death, since they would have had time to think about their decision after making it and how sad that would be. I wonder if Cheslie, had such a change of mind, or if she just snapped and there was no moment of sanity after that.
I also have dark moods (due to past traumas), one recently that scared me. I don't believe that I would ever harm myself, though.
No matter how bad things get, I always believe that things will get better.
@@BriaBarrows
Sometimes the more together the person appears, the more unhappy he/she feels.
I know that when I'm feeling down, I tend to look my best, since not looking well-put-together makes me feel worse.
Lateshia keep taking your meds , talking to a therapist and most importantly keep praying ....The best is yet to come. With Love. God bless you
Please remember that asking for help when you need it is a strength not a weakness ❤️
I feel like people should be saying "allegedly" committed suicide until a thorough investigation has been concluded. Let's not accept the easy explanation and instantly assume this was suicide when for all we know it could have been homicide. Sorry but I watch a lot of crime stories. Many murders have been attempted to be covered up as a suicide. Her comments about aging, racism and trolls seemed appropriate and candid but strong, not particularly wounded. Whatever the reason, may she rest in peace and her loved ones find some comfort. She was a beautiful, intelligent and accomplished young woman.
I think NYC sees enough of these each year, to know what it looks like... 20% of all suicides in the city are building jumpers.
She left a suicide note leaving everything to her Mom.
She left a suicide note leaving everything to her Mom, clear, very clear
Always remember: You are the expert of your own experience. This is the bottom line. A good therapist, or even a good emotionally-intelligent friend, asks questions that can help a person figure find the truth of their experience and gain insight however NO ONE knows more about your experience that you do. And that definitely includes parents. Parents do not know more about their kid's feelings and experiences. When they think so, they are blinded by parental ego and some kind of weird ownership of their child. No one is looking through your eyes but you. No one is in your brain but you. Speak your truth. Actually Listen to when other people speak their truth and go from there.
I appreciate this comment so much!!
@@msstephbiggs Thanks. I'm glad. Chat it up. To remember. Cheers.
Well said! As a parent of a 24 year old, I needed to see your comment. I am internalizing what you said. Thank you.
@@noblestrength You are most welcome. Big job. 24 yr old. Bravo to you. Cheers.
This is the best parenting advice for anyone with older kids such as tween and older. I remind myself of this DAILY.
Only saw a snapshot of her life but Cheslie left a collage of beautiful, accomplished, powerful memories. They say pictures speak one thousand words and her photos tell the story of a woman of strength, confidence, intelligence, and elegance. She was struggling with some emotional and personal pain privately behind closed doors. People forget that we have emotions for a reason and we should always feel privileged and honored to express them to just vent, for comfort, solace, for healing whether through therapy, counseling, or changes to better our lives. I pray that people will realize that our words, our thoughts of people do affect us all. You have the power and control to how you respond to it. She will be remembered as a woman who believed in exposing her truth on mental health whether privately or publicly. We have to give her all the credit for what she accomplished and she a bright beautiful spirit. She inspired many all around the world. I hope people will learn it's ok to lean and voice what you're feeling no matter your race, ethnicity, creed, or gender.
I didn’t realize she had been hospitalized for 8 days. I’ve been thinking about this story a lot. I identify with being depressed and suicidal but not knowing how to get help. I was suicidal for most of my teenage years into my late twenties. And even after doing some healing, the suicidal thoughts have revisited me. A total stranger called out the thoughts of suicide to me and prayed with me. God sent this person to me on social media. It has been a combination of things that have helped me. Prayer, therapy, telling the truth about my childhood traumas and God’s grace. To anyone hurting mentally, my prayer is that you will find the help that works for you and may God grace you to survive, heal and thrive. ❤️❤️❤️
This is SO sad, we are DEEPLY touched and hurt by the death. Personally the only closure I can get out of this is knowing she didn't have no kid (s), because although she had family , kid (s) just CAN'T overcome the death of a parent under certain circumstances, definitely not a suicide ( if THAT what it was).Pray for those she touched, and those who loved her.
Zerlina,
Your statement was so profound, "Depression looks like EVERYONE."
I hope that message will spread.
Thank you for adding more substance to Cheslie's story. This is the best video I've watched about her life, not just her death.
💫 Definitely True Indeed 🎙
This conversation should be required viewing for anyone entering any profession. (among others)
My condolences to her loved ones...such a sad state of affairs...you really never know what's going on with a person just looking from the outside. My heart breaks for her and her family. Shalom
Stay well Zerlina, we are all so proud of you!🥰
Agreed! I'm so happy she's part of MSNBC!
Thank you Zerlina for bringing all of this into awareness in such a clear way. I always appreciated the saying, “Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, only backwards and in high heels.” And that’s for white women. To hear the perfectionism you are describing, the pretzels black women twist into to prove the right to belong is heart wrenching. The sense of no matter how much skill, knowledge, experience you bring, it is somehow never enough to be treated with basic human decency and respect. I always appreciate your insights. Thank you for your presence.
Zerlina has an attitude too. I can tell she about to jump off on someone too
My heart sunk with the news . How can people tell her she was not pretty enough ? People can be so cruel . Please please please reach for help if you are struggling . You are not alone .
She was exquisite!
Incredibly heartbreaking on so many levels. I pray Chelsie has peace at last 🕊💛
Social media and bullying can destroy a person mentally /spirtually etc. and it seems that is what happened to her.
Among other things. I just hope that she's found some peace!
Also who knows if she may have.been assaulted sexually. She very beautiful and the high pressure to be perfect when that's not a reality, no one perfect but God.
The Depression Demon lives in a cave and sits at the entrance, waiting for a vulnerable person to come by. Once it gets its talons into them, the Demon drags them away from the light and further into the dark and cold of the cave. They need someone to have the strength, bravery and initiative to get a torch and some rope - love and therapy tools - to help them climb out. ( If they don't do it at the time, they'll thank you later.) Do not be afraid. Ask if they are thinking of ending their lives to end their pain. It's ok. You're not giving them an idea that they weren't already thinking. They're weighing their options, sort of speaking. If someone has been depressed and then voila, they seem to be over it, be very suspicious. Odds are big that they have found the relief of a decision made. The worst one possible. They may think that loved ones would be better off or happier if they were gone. Many can see how their suffering pains friends and family. Tell them it's ok. You can handle the pain. It's way better than the pain of loss of your life. Make it real, people. Be brave. Grab the Depression Demon by the horns and wrestle it to the ground!
Well said Canadian,alot to unpack from your comment
@@nuffrespect1248 Yeah. Opening up the suitcase, looking at the stuff, and putting it all away. Cheers.
It does not matter how beautiful you are
outside and inside, but how balanced you
are despite everything life throw on you.
Be yourself, have faith and stay strong.
From what I get in what Cheslie said was she view herself as running out of time at 30 years old to meet her many goals she set for herself. That’s concerning to me. Perhaps she put too much pressure on herself to achieve all that she wants it affected her mentally. Her last Instagram post seems to be saying she’s come to the decision to go rest in death. Sad story. RIP dear Cheslie.
@@os2958 in addition they stated she was the oldest contestant ever to win the pageantry. Her birthday was three months away. Perhaps that factored in too.
Also as a strong successful woman, it feels like no one has compassion for you when you’re in pain. They think you’re “strong enough” or privileged enough to get through, that it can!t be “that bad.” It took a long time for me to learn to have compassion for myself and to feel safe enough to be vulnerable after being shamed, it was a dark road, but I have to admit it shook my trust in people. RIP CHESLIE 🙏🏼 Hope you’re at peace now
All of that plus the fact that a beauty pageant queen has to prove herself even more- people automatically assume one is self centered and not very intelligent- a winner like her has to work twice as hard to prove that is not the case.
It is so sad that this beautiful young lady who had a lot going for herself felt terrified of turning 30. I thought about that for a minute and wondered how on earth could she think this way? After all she had been through, accomplishing dreams that most would envy, how could she think like that? When a person starts talking this way, I think prayer and deep breathing, which is actually a form of meditation, is first and foremost. Think about what is most important to you and drop the rest. Take time out for you and enjoy the fruits of your labor. She was exhausted and needed time to just relax. Step away from social media for a while. It's ok to set boundaries and timelines for things you want to accomplish in life but be ok with whether or not those things happen. Life has a way of beating up on all of us -- no one is immune, so the more you can take time out for yourself, the better and try to enjoy life even in the small simple things.
Fantastic edisode. I learned a lot. Thank you.
So triggered. Lost two good friends (both black men) this way who had the same demeanor. I'm angry they didn't tell me... anything, especially wen we were on good terms and i just talk to them days beforehand. It makes my stomach hurt, make me frustrated, the pain nvr goes away. I think abt them everyday. Please yall, get help. You're not alone.
I battle with depression everyday of my life I laugh, smile and ya'll are so right be kind to each other no matter what color you are.I pray God gives her family peace that surpasses all understanding.
I watched one of Ms. Kryst's youtube videos for the first time today, then "Celebration of Life" came up at the end as a recommended video. I feel like I found her and lost her all on the same day. She was such a bright light gone much too soon.
Thank you for posting this interview. It is a very big eye opener for me. 🙏
Thank you Zerlina Maxwell and Imani Gandy for sharing your insights on these micro aggression experiences. I first learned about them in Colin in Black and White (which Cheslie was briefly featured in! 😭❤️), illustrated from the perspective of a young kid between two races and it was eye opening. I’m appalled that there’s still people in the comment section trying to downplay your experiences as though they’ve never learned 🤦🏼♀️ everything goes over their heads. What a frustrating world we live in. I’ve been following Cheslie for years and wow, would never have guessed how much pain she was carrying 😢 Thank you for amplifying her voice and experiences.
there’s something wrong about this , she seemed so full of life . She didn’t seem to be under pressure , nor had any negativity about her , she seemed determined to fulfill the things she had in mind to do . She tried 4 times to become a miss Carolina , NO she was not a quitter ! something rotten in Denmark ! Black woman found dead from what looks to be a fall ? So call it suicide , 🤔🤔 ?……..
My thoughts exactly. Something not right here and everyone should be saying "alleged" suicide pending outcome of a thorough investigation. That takes longer than a few hours. Rushing to assume it's suicide seems like a microaggression.
Stop it. If you’ve never been in this position to feel what she most likely felt, her act will, of course, seem truly unbelievable to you. I pray you never experience a pain in which you outwardly strive for success in every tangible aspect of your life, but struggle with dark thoughts on a regular basis. Of course as Black women, we’re expected to be strong, even in the midst of death, making it truly unfathomable that we could suffer so much that we could end our life.
I think NYC sees enough of these to know what they are - 20% of all suicides in NYC are building jumpers... they've probably seen 1000's of them over the years.
@@alanncsu3243 While that 20% statistic is true, the profile for jumpers is almost entirely men. Highly unusual for a woman to commit suicide in that manner. There have been cases of women who were thrown or pushed and they should really look at any evidence - that's all I am saying.
@@phexi419 🙏🏾 Money, beauty and having it all can't bring you happiness!
So sad she died alone and didn't seek help You were loved Chelsie ❤
Don't want to downplay the trauma a black woman goes through, I can see some of this as a woman too. I thought I had it bad but never imagined how much worse if I were black.
I just want to cry. I was so proud of her and her accomplishments. I just wish she had a roommate. Living in New York and she's from another state. She was alone in New York City. I just wish she had someone to talk too. God bless 🙏 her and her family. 😊😇🤔😔😪💞🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
That's the third prominent black person to die by mysterious suicide in the last 10 days.
Thank you for your work and perspective. I appreciate you.
This gave me chills mental health is so hard to describe, my daughter took her life on 2020. She was beautiful but the inside was completely dark of her problem. Help anyone you see struggling with their health. God bless
I am so sorry for your loss! I suffer from depression that at times is crippling!! I have attempted suicide 3 times. Since I'm still here, I changed doctors and meds and now I'm better. Not cured, but better
Thank you for this commentary!!
She lived a very exciting and eventful life! She hid everything better than I could ever dream of doing, if I had been dealing with emotions as heavy as she. Cheslie was a very strong woman. Very determined and sure of her intentions. She was very focused and walked in the power of self determination.
That Cheslie Kryst. Wow. I still respect her. I refuse to look or “feel some kind of way” towards her because of her decision to exit the planet like she did. I celebrate her life and the fact that she is now at peace. She accomplished so much in this lifetime! Rest In Peace, all the wonderful things you did in this life, live on, for us to learn from and enjoy! ❤️✨
thank you for talking about this mental health is so needed to be discussed. I'm so very sad for her family.
'Chips away' indeed! It adds up. God bless you both for having this needed discussion for us all to "eavesdrop" on.
The news of Kryst's suicide hit me hard. Having lost two family members in suicide, the lingering thoughts & questions of could I have done something that would have helped them realized that suicide is never a good solution and the feeling of regret that they didn't feel comfortable or close to me enough to tell me their problems, struggles, or depression. These thoughts remains in me to this day even after over a decade later. I know a school teacher who also committed suicide 5 days ago. Suicide is a heavy punishment to our loved ones even if that wasn't their intension. I feel the pain of Kryst's mother. She's hurting the most and I'm sure that wasn't Kryst intention. It's going to be years of tough road ahead for her. Please include her and Kryst soul in your prayers. 🙏🏻✝.
Poor mom. She probably feels guilty and feel like she didn't do enough to help.
@@elh1977 I would imagine that's exactly what her mom is feeling right now. It's only natural for parents to feel guilty because it's common knowledge that we know our children. But that's a myth. We may have an inkling on other issues but when somebody is determined to end their life and they have entered the "suicide trance", it's almost impossible to detect. My relatives who committed suicide was happy in their last days. One of them had a celebration as his last meal, he was cheerful and was energetic. That's the stage when they had already made up their minds because when they were so depressed and withdrawn, they didn't have the energy to carry out their plans.
Clesie's mother would need a professional help. I was deeply disturbed when my relatives and friend ended their lives. I can't imagine the pain for mothers that gave birth and nurtured them to adulthood. This is something major that would change her for as long as she lives regardless if she's strong and resilient. God can heal a broken heart but she will never be the same again. It's very important for her to know that her family and friends are praying for her and for the soul of her daughter.
Thank you so much for bringing light to this subject. I’m glad that It’s a real thing. I found myself questioning some of the things I was going through. I’m nowhere as successful as you or Cheslie, but have experienced some of the same situations. It does chip away at your self esteem.
I am in awe of her. I truly think if people understood how hard it is to mix and combine - seeking success (individually defined), having serious mental struggles, choosing to work hard and seek excellence, and dealing with the loneliness of the journey they would understand the legacy of Chesley. I am struck by her genuine, love, confusion, and anxiety/depression when trying to complete the journey. She even tried to relieve others of the pain by saying be at peace - meaning she found it through her last effort - i wish it had been different. And I don't pretend to have known her. I can only imagine micro aggressions when combined with being a person of color - and how it chips away at you. By the way - I am white. But I am so deeply touched by her journey and how it 'chipped away' at her. I have experienced it only through attempting to define and live by a successful journey with severe mental illness.
Ditto to everything stated here! When I read about Cheslie's death and learned of her background, I could not help seeing myself in every single area of her life! Thank you for this video!
Thanks for covering this.
Just like high blood pressure, high functioning depression can be the silent killer!!💔
Thank you for covering this
What a woman ,! she had it all and carried a huge load , how the whole world wishes she could have felt it was okay to ask for help and that's it's okay to say she was hurting .
She didn't have to end her life .
I believe everyone that mattered in her life would have helped. miss Cheslie every step of the way to help heal , absolutely devastating !
I can't stop thinking about miss Cheslie Kryst and the pain she would have felt in her heart , NOBODY should have to bear the pain she did , I'll never forget you miss ,
you're in God's care , god bless you Cheslie 🧡💛❤️
Mental Health is complicated, private and Very Personal. I feel everyone has some form of Personality Disorder, which is not as insulting as using Mental Health Disorder Labels that cause people to be secretive and defensive when dealing with their disorder. Some disorders are more severe than others, however as long as a person is responsible and independent there is no need to worry about the type of shortcomings he or she has.
I do think everyone in society carries traits of mental disorders. Personality disorder is a bit of a stretch, but sure there are people with traits.
To identify a disorder it does have to impact something in their lives. World, socially, psychologically, or physiologically. There is just a huge stigma with mental health period because you are "crazy".. when in fact you are just a human going through an issue that hopefully can be fixed. The issue is the longer its suppressed with a negative coping skill the harder it is to correct because the habit is instilled deeper and deeper.
Awesome interview 🙏🏾❤️
Loved this I definitely needed to hear this conversation ♥
Thank you Zerlina that was uplifting and important as a recovering addicts I too have suffered depression and we all need knowledge and healing
Much love to both of you women! Thank you for speaking honestly and I pray peaceful positivity embrace y’all! This is all too sad. 😔
Spanish folk are like that to, we feel like therapy is a weakness, but that should not be the case. I feel for her, poor baby she must of felt very alone. May she rest in peace 🕊️🕊️🕊️
This is the best discussion I've seen to clarify the pain of this beautiful souls tragic decision to end her life💔. Thanks Zerlina. Cheslie you are in God's forever loving embrace now and I pray you have the rest and peace you couldn't get on this Earth🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🕊🕊🕊. My deepest most heartfelt condolences to Cheslie's mother & family💜💜💜.
Very good piece and good points made.❤
I'm middle aged and it's a beautiful thing to finally get to a place where I don't much care what people think of me & try to do what works best for me over all else. BUT I am in no way a public person so I don't know how someone who is brave enough to put herself "out there" can even get to that place. She dealt with so many eyes and opinions and with that comes with so so much ugliness. She must have felt utterly trapped
Well said. I think being in the spotlight made it hard to her to quit or remove herself from that to get the help she needed that will take some long time (but necessary) of healing.
I know this is an old post, but Cheslie's suicide has stuck with me and I've been reviewing some of the conversations about her. I wonder if she would've been happier had she not gone the pageant/entertainment route and just focused on being an attorney and her fashion blog. I say that because I saw an older interview where she said that she was always an introvert/loner growing up and that she was still an introvert. As an introvert myself, I know that it would be impossible for me to be in the spotlight all the time. I need a lot of down time alone, and that's the complete opposite of what happens when you win a national pageant and become a tv correspondent. Introverts tend to think very deeply about things and we can be very sensitive to criticism, so I can only imagine that the hateful comments she received on social media truly hurt her. Everyone can't just brush things like that off and move on, especially when you're seeing it day after day. She seemed like such a sweet soul. I think maybe she could have muddled through this world a while longer had her life not become so public. Her mom was in pageants and Cheslie basically followed in her footsteps. But pageant life/the spotlight isn't for everyone. RIP beautiful soul.
Great interview and so on point
The guest said, "I take a handful of pills". I wish this wasn't normal in the USA!
Well done piece.
Zerlina is exactly right about perfection being a defense mechanism. "If I'm perfect, nothing can be wrong." I've had people say that I'm "very bright," instead of acknowledging my intelligence like they're talking to a child. There is no such thing as "perfect." We need to learn to love ourselves like Christ loves us.
Really enjoyed this segment. May her gentle soul rest in peace 🙏 🕊
Excellent video! We need have these conversations!
She was Beautiful, this is Heartbreaking and so very Sad. May she Rest In Peace and my Condolences to her Family. 😥😔🙏🏾❤🥀
She was such a gorgeous and smart and very accomplished woman she felt the pressure to look good and maybe she dreaded her looks changing as was getting older.She was fixated on turning 30 and she looked ten years younger.Being known for being sooo gorgeous that puts a lot of pressure on someone and that is impossible to live up to being in the public eye
This is really sad and heartbreaking news to hear that Cheslie Kyrst passed away. 😢💔
I can only imagine what her family is dealing with losing such a special person in their lives.
In 2019, she was one fifth of a historic win with five black women sweeping all five major beauty pageants crowns: Miss America, Miss USA, Miss Universe, and Miss World, and Miss Teen USA.
As Miss USA, Cheslie Kyrst helped to inspire millions of young girls to see themselves as both beautiful and intelligent. She was definitely the embodiment of sophiscation, elegance, and grace.
May She Rest With GOD in eternal peace. I send ALL my prayers and condolences to her family and friends. The LEGACY she left will continue to live on for many more young girls to follow. She will be ALWAYS loved and GREATLY missed. 🙏🏿❤🕊
Sorry for pain.
Let’s hear each other better, learn to respond and support one another better.
Your go to be missed. Your in beautiful place no judgement all love. Pray for her mom and family.
Thanks for sharing.
Depression is really dangerous
You said the quiet words outloud...
Living with the "private pain" while going through all the motions expected of us on the outside.
Don't assume by apparences, the people you love may need MUCH more from you. Act before it is too late. My perfect daughter died 2 years ago, this can happen.
I'm so sorry for your loss. That's so hard. I had a stillborn son, his name is Caleb. I can't imagine what it is like to raise a child and have to say goodbye. Thank you for your activism, in raising awareness. People don't think about these things until it happens but maybe someone will see this and do something different. Life is so short, and it can be very difficult for those of us who have such sensitive hearts. Hope you're doing alright and that you're taking good care of yourself. ❤️
@@liz090833 my daughter graduated at the top of her college class, had her own house, and car at age 24. I remember hugging and kissing her goodbye after celebrating her birthday .. 3 weeks later she was gone, and I never saw it coming, but in hindsight, was not listening or asking enough.
@@KrustyKlown don't ever blame yourself! This was NOT your fault. If it was what I think it was, depression is a horrible monster. It is relentless. It becomes the loudest voice in our heads and sometimes the monster wins bc the person is so tired of fighting. It never stops screaming inside the person's head, it is a black cloud that you try your hardest to out run every single day. There are so many factors and you being human isn't one of them, I promise you that! If she were here she would tell you herself that she loves you and is grateful for having you as her mother. I do not think she would allow you to blame yourself even for a moment. Hindsight is always 20/20 but it's not reality. The reality is that mental illness is difficult to spot sometimes. Often times the person has fought all the symptoms of it for years. Judging by her accomplishments, you were a wonderful mother! You did an amazing job! You should feel really proud of the way you parented and the way she turned out. You did not cause this. Again. You did not cause this! I can't tell you why, I can only tell you she doesn't want you to be in pain, she was just hurting. I wish I could make you believe that, I really do. You're a good mother and a good person. You deserve a happy life! What helps me through all the loss in my own life is gratitude. Whenever I'm crying out to God, whenever I just can't see through the walls of sorrow I do something. I get quiet first, deep breaths. Then I say "thank you for letting me love this beautiful human." Then, I start to recall happy memories. One by one, I pull them out, and I just keep saying thank you. Then I picture is sitting in the grass. The sky is blue and the sun is perfect. I imagine us there talking, laughing and the sun touches our skin and warms us. I just think of all the ways I loved them & all the ways they loved me. It has to be enough. It just has to be enough for us. I tell whatever is up there that they did an incredible job with that person. I say thank you again and then, I get up and try so, so hard to move forward. It's very hard sometimes but I know I have to keep going, so I turn towards the sun and take it minute by minute. I'm sorry for the lengthy response, I just really feel for you & anyone who has endured a loss like this. I just really want to help people, but more importantly, I don't want you to blame yourself anymore. 😭❤️
To all the young Black women, and men, please hang in there. Your lives matter. May Chelsie rest in peace.
Thank you Zerlina - Great segment!! ✔️🌹✊🏾✨
Very good interview…
Great conversation. I wish we would see more of these conversations among latin American community! I've experienced some of the situations discussed here and it's just sad. People asking if I'm Mexican because I look a certain way, or touching my hear and asking if I have black in my family because it's wavy or " I didn't know girls in your country were pretty " and my favorite " oh the indians" because of where I'm from and these come from Hispanics. So much work ahead.
So sad 😭. We keeping aloud this happening. Suicide will never be the way out . Life doesn’t end after dead . I’m praying for her , praying for the good spirits help her in her transition, praying for her family. In her honor today I will start to be better person, put more attention on the way I see everyone. If she did this is everyone falls. We all part of this . Because she is my sister , we are all connect…..😭
This is such a real risk to everyone! Thank you for the work you do and the dignity and respect you have shown to her legacy. It is an athlete who will light the path toward the power that is truly in each person's control. Thank you Ladies, please keep shining a light on this VERY SERIOUS matter! God Speed!
Thanks, Zerlina, this is a very beautiful tribute.
I read her article in Allure. One thing that Cheslie worried about that I totally agree is women aging. Why do women have timed accomplishments to reach at a certain age? Why are women pressured to look youthful not age gracefully like men who are called silver foxes? We are considered old in our 30s 40s but men are distinguished members of society? It's obvious society's standards affect our mental health.
That's a Awesome and amazing piece. I never heard about microaggression before. I am so glad that now I have a little more knowledge. Thank you.