Boss RC-505 & FCB1010 Midi Controller (Part 2)
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Especially for guitar, bass and other players who need their hands to play an instrument. This 3 part video explains how to configure the Boss RC-505 so it can be controlled via a FCB1010 Midi controller.
Gear used in the video:
Boss RC-505 - www.thomann.de/gb/boss_rc_505...
Behringer FCB1010 - www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_f...
5 Pin Midi Cable - www.thomann.de/gb/the_sssnake...
Each of the 5 channels will get a Rec-Overdub - play button and an undo but other configurations are possible.
The FCB1010 is equiped with a UNO chip because StompBox mode is required. You can get more info on this on www.fcb1010.eu
A list of the Midi parameters on the RC-505:
RC-505 SW: Version 2.0
Midi Channel used is channel 1
System config of the RC-505:
Sys:MIDI Rx Ch 1
Sys:MIDI Omni ON
Sys:MIDI Tx Ch Rx (not used)
Sys:MIDI Sync AUTO
Sys:MIDI SyncSrc USB(AUTO)
Sys:MIDI PC Out OFF
Phrase Memory Settings
Assign1 Switch ON
Assign1 Source #CC21
Assign1 Src Mode MOMENT
Assign1 Target TR1 REC/PLAY
Assign1TargetMin ----------------
Assign1TargetMax ----------------
Assign2 Switch ON
Assign2 Source #CC22
Assign2 Src Mode MOMENT
Assign2 Target TR2 REC/PLAY
Assign2 TargetMin ----------------
Assign1TargetMax ----------------
etc. - Hudba
LEGEND! This saved my so much time. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this video. Greatly appreacited
Thank you sooo much, i've been really helpfull!!
Wonderful video! Thanks so much for posting it. By chance, do you know if this can be applied to different banks? In addition to what you are showing, I want to include an "All Start/Stop" pedal on Bank 01, but the pedals on Bank 01 just start changing the RC-505 presets.
Hi, thanks for this video :) do you have the possibility to us the "hold" function button with the FCB1010? for example to clear the track when you hold the stop button on the FBC without using 5 button to stop and 5 button to clear :S
Thank you so much for producing this video! Everything works 100%. If anyone wants to know how to also add the volume pedals, I've left the instructions on how to do that on R Hoogland's comment further down the page.
Thanks for the kind words. In the meantime I have an update where all 12 buttons & expression pedals can be used in whatever configuration you want. I’ll probably post the video next week, so subscribe to my channel if you want to get notified. Cheers!
Subscribed & looking forward to it :)
When I go to bank up and down (all 18 of them on the fcb) all the bottom numbers 1 to 5 still control the rec/play mode. That's all good but I want to be able to use numbers 5 to 10 to stop/play all tracks ? Any help would be great
down and on no direct select seems a common issue ? my pedals work to record but not to undo although all boss settings are done as your video , is there another way to direct select ?
I’m using a Mac. I’ve programmed the fcb1010 as per your helpful tutorial. I’ve connected the midi out from the fcb1000 to a usb on my Mac using an Um-One interface cable. I use Midi Monitor to view the midi messages from the fcb1010. I then have the RC-505 connected to my Mac via a usb cable. Both devices are recognised. Using midi monitor I can see the midi messages from the fcb1010 when I press a pedal on the fcb1010 - however it does not activate the RC-505. I then use midi patcher to create a routing from the fcb1010 to the RC-505 and all is okay. The fcb1010 is controlling the RC-505 on all 5 presets.
I note that you use Stompbox Mode - is this essential? In Stompbox mode the RC-505 is active on all fcb1010 banks. I would prefer to restrict it to just one bank and use the other nine banks for other midi functions such as the control functions in Logic Pro and switching the presets on my Strymon Timeline (Note that I’ve used the fcb1010 for these 2 functions and it works fine. Anyway my other question was - how do you control the midi routing). I suggest that when some users say they can’t get their fcb1010 to work is because of the midi routing problem.
I would like to use the fcb1010 to control several midi devices. Can I assign different midi channels for the various devices on the fcb1010?
Thank you
So tnx for this video! Should I also change this chipset for using in 505 mk2 ?! I have two choices between a brand new nektar pacer and fbc1010 ( used so cheaper) . But if replacement in chipset is a case for using on mk2 too I can't find it here I live! So tnx.
Hi. Can U Tell US how to programming the Pedals with the boss rc 5050?
That was great.
What are your midi channels for each button in global settings? Should they be the same, or different?
I have put the channel setting on the RC so that I receive on all channels. This way midi channel configuration isn’t needed.
Do you know if UNO version 1.0.2f works well with RC-505, or only 1.0.4 works fine? Thank you.
Can’t say, never tried it
Hi, just making a similar comment on these videos. I can't tell based on this video or the first one if a new chip is "required" to make this work with my 505. Now that the FCB-505 chip is available, what is your recommended set up? Which video should I be watching?
You can’t do it with an off the shelve fcb. Go for the fcb505 Chip.
Question. At 2:44, my number 9 button does not light up. It does nothing if I press or hold it down. The only button that allows me to select is button 10. Why is this happening? I've gone through the process several times.
Greetriman, in "www.fcb1010.eu" when i click purchase the Uno v.1.0.4 it says i´m ordering a "UnO firmware EPROM for the FCB1010", is that the same? should i buy that if i want to configurate de fbc1010 the way you did it?
Yes, that’s what you need.
Please advise which Uno chip version you are using. I am having some programming issues. thanks , Peter
Peter, I have uno v1.0.4 (not the uno4kemper one)
I have the correct chip and correct version on my rc505.After programming both units to your settings the following triggers happen:
fcb pedal 1 triggers rc505 ch 1
fcb pedal 2 triggers ch 2
3 triggers 3
4 triggers 4
5 no trigger
6 no trigger
7 triggers 2
8 no trigger
9 triggers ch 1 and 2
10 triggers ch 1 and 2
All settings checked several times and appear to be correct.
Could my chip be faulty?
Please share your thoughts on this issue.
Thanks again, Peter
Hi Greetriman, I have ordered a V1.0.4 and will advise how it goes when I try it .
All the best for now, POeter
Ok, I’ll wait and see. Btw the guys who make the uno chip also provide software to configure and check the midi commands of the fcb.
Is this working with the 505 mk2?
haha ok never mind, sometimes we think too difficult. My midi cable in the RC505 was in midi out and not midi in. The configuration was apparently already done...
I'm now trying to make bank 01 on my fcb control the stop/play button but can't figure it out? Like I've assigned the rc500 from 11 to 15 to do stop play all tracks via the fcb and followed same instructions as this but it ain't working.
It has some limitaties. The rc505 experts a CC < 64 to reset the functionity. This works only for the first 5 switches which remain the same for all banks (stompbix mode). For switch 6-10 I have simulated the behavior by sending the rest CC when pressing the corresponding switch from 1-5.
In the meantime UNO has released a dedicated eprom for the rc-505 control called fcb505. This gives a lot more options (12 switches in stompbox mode and 2 expression pedals can be used), only one bank is available though and everything is fixed on the fcb. Configuration has to be done on the RC. Check it out: www.fcb1010.eu/fcb505.html
Mine only shows numbers when I hit the buttons. I cannot hold anything down when turning it on. It just shows 12.
Sorry for this question, but i can't find the UNO chip for sale here in México, where i can buy it?
Ivan, just order at www.fcb1010.eu/ they do international shipment.
Greetriman thanks!
Thanks for the video. However I have installed the fcb-505 v1 and I cannot access the direct select. Instead I have 12 appearing. Could you help me ? Is the firmware defective? I am distraught I made this acquisition especially to pilot my rc-505. Sorry for my writing I use a translator I'm French. Good night.
same issue here did you get anywhere?
I know it’s a year later than this post, but I am having the same issue that you guys had. Did anyone solve this? I would really love to know, but I’ll keep reading the comments, perhaps it’s in there somewhere
Problem.. The "9" isn't lighting up after I hold the down switch and turn the unit on. What should I do?
The direct select light comes on though, just not 9
Hi. Just one question. The Boss works with permanently closed circuit and Behringer with permanently open, doesn't it makes any issue in the communication?
Thanks for the good work!
No it works. However have a look at a more recent video I made with the Fcb-505 eprom. Gives more possibilities
@@greetriman215 , Can you send me the link please? Thanks
Greetriman , I want to work with the Boss and a Beatbuddy as well. Do you think can work with both together?
RC-505 foot control via an FCB1010/FCB-505 midi set
Hello, i have a problem at first step. When i press down on power on nothing happen. Is some one have the same problem ?
after setting it up that way - I still need to push pedal twice to run the action. And later also 2 times. REC/PLAY it's two times for REC and two more for PLAY. WHY?
Soundprayer stompbox mode is required with the uno chip otherwise you have what you describe
The Boss works with permanently closed circuit and Behringer with permanently open, that's why you need to press two times to stop the signal!
I've already made the question in the comments.
@@iroelperez Thank you for the answer. I don't own that footpedal anymore XD
When I turn on the fcb and hold down 'down' nothing happens, it just shows me '123' on the screen and after it shows me '12'. I do have installed the Uno chip, but I just can't get in configuration mode. Please help! I have a show soon. Thanks!
I'm having the same issue. I hope he responds!!! You step on down and it says 12. and nothing is lit up under "global configuration" like how "direct select" is on in his video. Just says 12. and the rest is blank.
Manual here... www.fcb1010.eu/downloads/FCB-505.pdf
The main difference is that you have to do it cc#20 upwards instead of cc#21 upwards. Plus you don't do anything to the 1010 at all.
Hello,
I have the same hardware that I tried to configure it however I have a problem that I can not adjust, I have to press the same pedal 3 times for the RC 505 to launch, I do not know not how to do it.
Can you help me ?
Thank you
I see that you have already answered the same question but what is the stompbox soundprayer mode and the uno chip?
Hi Leslie, to explain it in a simple way: you have to change the computer program in your FCB1010 by the program that is created by the guys of UNO. This is very easy to do, you need to order a computer chip on the UNO website and physically put this in your FCB. A lot of CZcams videos out there explaining how to do this installation. This chip enables you to put the FCB in stomp box mode which is something you need to control the RC 505.
Video you are reacting to is already about one year old, in the meantime there is a new version of the chip especially for the RC505. When you use this configuration it is a lot easier. I am planning to make a video on this witch should be released one of these weeks if you want to get notified that the video is available subscribe, to my channel that’s the easiest way to do it. Hope this helps.
Greetriman That would be a huge help if you make that video
@@greetriman215 sadly this seems to no longer work as no one can seem to get into the system settings once updating with the chip. I would love to know how to get into the system settings to finish the setup but as of right now there's no way that I can see to get into the system settings.
Hi,
I can't access the system settings by pressing the down button while booting, anyone can help with this issue? uno chip is installed, and I got it working a year ago. came back today and wanted to go through the config again, but nothing works anymore. hm...
same issue
I have all the pieces ,and all versions up to date. Ver 2.0 on FCB. However, having the problem of getting into system setting on FCB. No "Direct Select" light coming on when performing the "Hold down 'down' button and turn on FCB". Please help.
Hey mate did you get anywhere with this ? I have the same issue .
same issue
I've done everything exactly like you say so far but when I hold down the DOWN button and switch on the unit, it just shows the number 12. and does not turn on direct select...... Please help! I just got my chip today and I just want it to work!!! Also if I just turn it on and it displays - - - and then I push DOWN, it shows the same 12. and when I push UP it shows 11.
ALSO, it will not factory reset if I hold down the 1 and the 6 and power on like it's supposed to...... this is all after I have installed the FCB505 chip........................
same issue. any luck yet?
Hello, I still have a problem to configure from the beginning. My FCB runs well with FCB 1010 original chip but as soon as I plug the UNO chip FCB 505 v.1.0 I cannot follow the instruction on the video. I did the calibration and the self test but when I press 12 then switch on it still show 12. Please can somebody help me?
me too!! did you ever figure it out
i cant figure it out
I have the exact same problem,. anyone got past this one? @@Phanatic207
Can you (show us how to) program the expressionpedals both too?
I could do it but I no longer have the RC-505.
Greetriman that be great maybe trough text in a video you still could explain it (for the rc 505 part)? Im getting better on my rc 505 shame that you dont have one anymore though ;) if you do i can finally buy this monster!
Have a look at czcams.com/video/HcIvW_J1LXQ/video.html
You've probably already managed to achieve this, but I'll post here in case anyone else needs the info.
I only had to set it up on patch 1, and as long as I press patch 1 after I start the looper, it works on all the other buttons in the bank until the looper is switched off. In the final step of programming the patch, buttons 8 and 9 control the left and right volume pedals. Make sure they are lit up (press and hold if they are not)
To program the left pedal, press 8, then up, then 64 (the cc message), then up, then 0 (lowest setting), then up, then 127 (the highest setting) then press up. Do the same for 9, using (I use cc#65 for the right hand pedal). Then at the end, hold and press down to save. You also need to make sure that you've calibrated the pedals since you installed the Uno ROM (instructions here: el34world.com/Misc/Music/files/fcb1010_calibrate_expression_pedals.pdf ) otherwise they may not function correctly.
When configuring the RC-505 to listen to volume #cc messages, the default is 0-200. You'll want to change it 0-100 to get a true organic feel, as 200 is 2x the volume of the original recording.
I've assigned the volume of both tracks 1 and 2 to operate on the left volume pedal (you just have to get them listen to cc#64) and 4 and 5 operated by the right pedal (cc#65). It adds a lot of dynamic options to the looping.
@@stuwyatt you just saved my sanity brother... thank you so much!!!
I live in the USA ... I cannot find the UNO chip.
Yes you can - www.fcb101.eu - they ship international
Typo!!! www.fcb1010.eu
I already own Ableton Live! 10 (Standard) … I do not perform or DJ so, I (just now) have decided to get a multi-pedal MIDI foot controller, for Ableton … DONE !! … Thank you very much for your kind response.
Greetriman
Hallo Greetriman, I would like to know if instead of the UnO chip that you mention in the beginning of this video a UnO4Kemper would work as well - or maybe better. Because I have the opportunity to buy a second hand one with this UnO4Kemper and don't know anything about electronics... :( .... So, I barely know whate Kemper is and I'm not interested in it, I'm truly interested in the same thing that you explain in this video and the other two parts of it: to add to the RC 505 this midi foot controller. So I please you to gimme an opinione if the UnO4Kemper is gonna be ok to reach the goal which is to follow then your videos and connect the fcb1010 with the RC505. If this could help you to answer me: UnO for Kemper www.fcb1010.eu/uno4kemper.html .... ordinary UnO: www.fcb1010.eu/uno.html Thank you very much for the answer!
Mitja, A Kemper is a Guitar Amp Profiler & effects unit that can be controlled via Midi. I don't think the UNO 4 Kemper chip works with the procedure I described. Mine is with a Normal UNO chip. Hope this helps.
Thank you... maybe the best thing is to buy with the Uno4Kemper installed (last but not least the price of the one that I found is very good) and buy the normal UnO too. If it works without installing this one, good, otherwise I'm gonna do it.
Mine doesn't work, and everything seems to be set up right. I Press 1, and nothing happens. I press 2 and record 1 lights up. I press 3 and record 1 starts to record, and record 2 lights up. It's all over the place. Down, and power on don't do anything.
Oh wait there is a manual, and it seems that the FCB 505 has changed a bit. Manual here... www.fcb1010.eu/downloads/FCB-505.pdf
The main difference is that you have to do it cc#20 upwards instead of cc#21 upwards. Plus you don't do anything to the 1010 at all.
So confusing. Really does this have to be?
dude, same. Im watching this thinking there is no way I wanna deal with all this weird shit. Lets get nektar pacers instead and skip all this. I see almost exclusively comments that are about issued and confusion