RC 505 SUGGESTIONS and TIPS for LOOPING!
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
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Been using the RC-505 for a year now. Still plenty of useful tips in this video. Thank you.
So much relevant information on the RC 505 ! ... thanks a lot dude ;°)
Good video, sure to help many people. I'm confident you already know, there is an option to delete the tracks with a double tap as apposed to holding the button. Thought I would mention this as it is my preference.
I had forgotten that, but I still prefer the Hold Down method, which you can do on multiple tracks if wanted.
It's like saying "I'm sure I want to get rid of these"!
Thanks! This thing is sitting here and I’m afraid to use it. Don’t want to screw it up. Your encouragement is great!
just dive in and have fun! you'll get it soon. see lots more videos
This is a newbie question but what wires do you use for the speakers,or what kind do you need?
Thank you for posting this. I just ordered a used Voicetone Synth from Reverb.com because of you! Got it for $158.. don't know if that's a good deal or not, but it was the only one I could find.
I also just got an RC-505 and mic, so I'm trying to soak up as much information and ideas as possible. Thanks again!
Good deal. Let's see what you do with it!
Thanks for this video! Question: How well does the rc-505 keep loops in sync that have a different length eg. 3 bars and 8 bars (polyrhythms)?
Poly can be done, it's interesting. they stay perfectly in sync, unless you turn that off. see manual for info.
push the edit button thats overr the stop button and then use the arrow buttons at the top right corner of the machine to set it from AUTO to FREE, then all rythms and recordings will be free from one another allowing different lengthened loops and polyrhythms hope this helps🙃
Hey man thank you so much for your very good advices, i have a question if you dont mind, i want to make a pre roll count on one of my track loop like a tempo before, it will help me to play guitare after but i dont know if its possible, do you know if it is? sorry for my bad english, and big up from France ! :)
I like to turn on the built in Rhythm section at a known tempo before recording a loop to get into the timing.
Can you use a condensor mic with the rc 505? I heard that it's not a good idea, but all that I have is a condensor mic right now. What cheap, but good quality mic would you or anyone else recommend for the rc 505?
any SM 58 clone should work. ( hand mic with ball shaped grille )
Question why does my recording usually the second channel in start over dubbing before I’ve pressed the round pad to end my recording? Thanks
By default, the second loop will be the same length as the first. If You dont want this, should set your loops to "Free" timing beforehand, which I recommend, because it's more open for doing what you want.
the speed up / down artifact happens in the Rc-202, also. I wish Roland would use 24bit as the TC helicon VoiceLive. The VoiceLive doesn’t seem to have that problem(feature?) , I believe it’s the 16bit sampling that causes the effect. Great info here, btw.
actually, most of us think it's better to stay "in tune" with the melody when changing speed slightly ; - )
Hello guys
I have a question?
When I play backing track and I want to put some vocal on the top or instruments and when I press the recording bottom the rhythm is getting faster or slower. Do you know how to fix it even I am in time.
Thank you
I am not sure what you mean. the Tempo will never change unless: you press tap tempo repeatedly, or once and turn the knob.
Hey VJ Franz K. I know that you answer questions pretty much, so I like asking you things, but you know how when your playing a loop and you stop that loop, it cuts the note and the note reverb or delay right off. Say that I want the song to end by stopping it, but it still plays the notes reverb or delay, is there anyway to do that? I know that there is the overdub that will allow it to play through to the beginning of the loop, but I would like to somehow stop the beat or track, and still hear the delay or reverb? I wonder if pressing the overdub button somehow while stopping the track could somehow be possible, but I can't find a work around, and if I go to put those tracks into a daw, I'm confused on how to get the reverb or delay to play out when the note stops at the end of the loop, since it stops automatically on the looper? I know it might sound confusing, but if you can help try to answer this, I'd appreciate it. Thanks VJ.
Franz is my name. ; - ) You could do like this: record your loops "dry", but turn up the Reverb Amount of the Memory, ( which is at 20% by default) that should get less abrupt trail off. Also could use Delay etc. as a master effect
@@VJFranzK Thanks, but what I meant is when you stop a track or stop all of the tracks at one time, there is no reverb or delay tail at all. It just cuts the entirety of the sound off completely...like when I stop my jd xi synth, it at least keeps playing the drums reverb and tail end of the sounds. This is one thing that is really bothering me about the rc 505, even though I really like it. Even if I put those tracks into a daw, they are still going to cut off abruptly, because the reverb and delay tails always flow into the beginning of a loop, so, is there any way around that? It's like once it's recorded, it's recorded, it's almost like I would have to play it live in order for it to play the tail end, or to flow into the beginning of a loop? I guess I will just have to overdub the sounds into the beginning of the loop, which does not sound right when I start the loop to begin with. This is my one big gripe.
Which is better, the Boss RC-505 or the TC Helicon VoiceLive Touch 2? Or the TC Helicon VoiceLive 3?
You're comparing apples and watermelon. ; - ) 505 is great for looping, the other two focus on voice FX. Might use both together?
How many layers per track can you overdub with the RC 505 (percussion sounds - for backing track)? Can you save the whole thing as a preset, & latter call it for use at a different tempo?
There's no limit to Overdubs, but they aren't stored in Layers.
( You can Undo the last thing you recorded. )
Yes, and Yes.
@@VJFranzK Thanks Bro. for actually taking the time to answer my question. You're Awesome! Have a Great Day!
If i plug guitar and voclas in when i get the beat box going with guitar the beat box starts to cut out and battle for volume. Ever run into this problem?
Yes, you have to lower volume on some tracks to make others stand out. Also, try adjusting the compressor settings
@@VJFranzK great thanks for getting back! Ill try it out👍👍
@@chiefcrowtheflatearthworms3259 also you can control the volume of all the individual tracks through the switches and in the edit mode of the track
when i create ideas on rc505 and then lower or speed bpm the loops are RUINED u get what i say? Help ! They get like warpped up or somthing like that. I need to be able to move the bpm of rc505 and keep loops sounding smooth. Cant find solutions
I'm sorry, there's no way to speed down a loop without some quality loss. (Unless it is a loop that was previously recorded at that slow tempo, you see?) because tiny spaces are made in the audio to do the slowdown
@@VJFranzK thx 4 info, yeah that made sense, will have to perform in one bpm. not bad
Where in the RC505 is your TC Helicon plugged into?
mic in
Hi Frank, I want to buy a new mic, the one you are using is that the Electro-Voice PL 80C?
its the 767 a, yes especially good for rich bass.
Hi, I am facing a delay in my mic output in the speakers. I am using SONY V4D1 Speakers to connect my Loopstation output. The rhythm is working Fine. But there is a slight delay in mic out. Any suggestions
Nothing should be causing a delay in that set up. Are you sure you don't have any FX turned on?
@@VJFranzK thanks for replying.. there is no Fx turned on.. dont know what the relal issue.. is there any output setting in our loopstation..? The latency is for a fraction of seconds. Bit it really matters while doing beatboxing...
@@djbeatsthemagicofsounds Perhaps you have a better ear for Latency than the rest of us. ; - ) I've never noticed any with this machine.
@@VJFranzK ha ha.. it is working with my old speakers.. now i have bought the sony one for better output, this problem came up. Hmm.
Speakers shouldn't? have latency by themselves. Are you using a computer audio interface that maybe needs latency adjustment?
You ever try connecting them with both midi ins and outs? You should try it see what happens. I did it with my mpc live and my tempo was runnnnnning away.
Hmm, what does that mean, exactly? I think it has to stay 40 - 250 bpm
this is probably a really dumb question, but how do you play this live without the metronome coming through? i'm playing live on a mixer, with an audio interface, and everything i hear in my monitors, the audience will hear. it appears that if i can hear the metronome so can they - so i'd like to try to figure out if there's anyway to mute the metronome, or if it's intended to somehow route to the monitors while being bypassed in the main ouput or something? or if there's some secret way to get the metronome in my headphone monitors without the audience hearing it (ideal). Thanks so much for the vid!
Yes, you can turn of the metronome in the System settings. Maybe the second is possible? See manual
Under the "edit" button for the rhythm tracks, you can use the right arrow button to get to the "line out" screen, which will be toggled to "on" in your case, if you toggle it to "off" then the sound of the rhythm track will only send to your headphone monitors, which is what you want. Hope that helps
Thank you dude!!!
Could you position the camera to show the 505 screen, if that makes sense?
i will try. it's not so easy to make it show up well on camera.
that glitchy tempo problem shouldn't really be a thing. Im just learning my 505, but to my knowledge the 505 can also be used for recording, if thats true, it is just a matter of turning your sample rate up. Normally 44.1 would sound fine, but if you massively slow the tempo, you're bound to get choppy. Depends what your cpu can handle i suppose
You can't adjust the sample rate. I say record the loops at the tempo where it will be most useful to have them sound best?
(If you need a wide range, recorded them at the slowest that is needed.)
VJ FRANZ K do you find if you increase the tempo as well it get choppy or changes the pitch? Is there an ideal to creat a slow rhythm and increase the temp?
@@VJFranzK I wonder if it would still do it if you recorded it on a different interface at a higher sample rate, then imported the tracks as wave files
It's very particular about which WAV format it will and wont play. I have experienced yes and no situations... I guess I will look carefully at the manual
@@JohnSmith-ut9ti clever idea! but I don't think it would
I have a couple spots in my music where I want a crossfader but I'm not abusing my looper like that.. A lil something is ok but fast cutting I just don't trust on it
The controls aren't suuuper solid, but they DO seem to be intended for crossfade like usage
you didn't tell us how to save all the settings so you can open a new project and have all the saved settings ready to go??
Yes I did. ; - ) make a "template" which is a Memory empty of loops, but with everything set how you want. then Copy that into the blank Memories, to be the start of your new sessions.
How do u loop and connect the machine to speakers
Manual, Sound Cable
VJ FRANZ K k can u do a video on how to set that up plzzz
@@angw2 there's two 1/4 inch jacks on the back for output u can use those or the red and white ended cables slots they have too, both work fine
You said, "If you have a question, ask.". So, I will. Where are my danged car keys? If you can tell me, I'll subscribe.
The cat moved them under the couch, perhaps?
TC Helicon’s vocal preamps are sooo much better than the 505. I use a Voicetone HarmonyG-XT. The basic vocal “Tone” on the TCH G-XT is smooth and pops the vox over the mix.
They all have a bit of a "flavor", which I can hear in this video now! (I've been using the VT3 and 4 more lately, because of their convenient features. )
from 1:17 to 1:54 i felt like i was breaking through