Is the Raiden Shogun the worst of all the 7 archons? (Genshin Impact 4.3 Lore and Theories)
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i swear to GOD I just remembered shes having a rerun. gl to all shes a fun characters I think shes a must pull. easy to build and I think shes good at c0 idk. anyway talking about the lore of raiden ei cause I said i was gonna a while ago and here we are. the most divisive archon in genshin impact, at least until the cryo archon gets here im sure. but of the cast right now, venti zhongli especially she has done the most dubious actions. also anyone have any new cloud retainer leaks? im starvin bruh.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:03 What is a "good" archon/Zhongli
2:45 Raiden Ei lore and story
4:45 The good part of Ei
7:54 The bad part of Ei
#genshinimpact #genshinlore #raidenshogun - Hry
Honestly, hot take, what I don't like about Ei isn't even about her lol.
I think Yae Miko has had a huge influence on the fandom's perception of her and her mental health issues. Like, there's only one scene where Yae has an emotional dialogue about Ei, the rest is just her playful personality.
Their dynamic was definitely not well worked on by Hoyoverse, it could have been much more, even though it yields some comical moments. I like her personality, but it just doesn't work when it comes into contact with the type of character Ei is supposed to be in the narrative. I just roll my eyes.
Imagine thinking you can write a civil war story with only 3 acts. Absolute madness. Inazuma's Archon Quest were the most ambitios when it is came to contemporal happenings but it is fail the biggest as well. Damaging every charatcer who was involved, except Yoimiya who by being a minor charatcer excaped from the cold hands of the bad writing and pacing.
Not even a civil war- a whole internal conflict that could destroy the nation itself and unfortunately Raiden fell victim to it...did inazuma even have an interlude quest?
@@jordanmayne2270 It is had interlude quest, it was the one with Beidou and Kazuha.
And it was a civil war. Kokomi fought to change the Shogun policy doesn't for independence or other reasens. I guess you can argue thet the watatsumians are not inazumans but I would disagree, they are just a sub-group.
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 beidou and kazuha? Oop Anyways and I was agreeing with u
@@jordanmayne2270Between Liyue Archon quest and Inazuma Archon quest we have to go to Beidou's fight club quest thingy where we learn about Kazuha friend's Vision and stuff.
And now re-reding your comment I saw thet you indeed agreed with me. I am just a big dum-dum and misunderstood you. Haha.
I can see why Ei was so Badly written in the Inazuma Archon Quest. She is far too Complex a character to explore and show in only 3 acts.
thats a big part of it, but I also think part of the problem is hoyo refusing to lets characters have flaws, as they have to be marketable enough to "pull". so in addition to to the underwhelming archon quest her story quest was some weird dating sim that served no purpose other then uwu
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Yet they made Ruan FRICKIN Mei aka the least Endearing Close to Psychopath character in Honkai Star Rail.
Forget about the STELLARON hunters the Anti heroes/Anti villains.
She's a straight Up Mad scientist, Manipulative and....
And Hoyo chose to Ignore all that and have her be an Automatic Express Guest with the Trailblazer acting like Long time friends to them despite literally almost sending them to their against a Giant bug that could have destroyed the Space Station.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia But I liked UwU. Especially when they are a girl failure. She can't cook, easy to be manipulated by Yae Miko etc.
How is she the Leader of Inazuma? Well she was never meant to be but here they are. Ei being the Archon is Punishment enough from Celestia and somehow I love how she's a True Girl Disaster it's just Comical.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Cap, every chracter literally has flaws.
@banir3736 i mean ig, but in no way do they affect the people around them in the same way Raidens did
She's not evil. She's just incredibly stubborn and not the Brightest Archon when Even Furina Eventually learned to bake an Opera cake but she still can't cook. She was supposed to be a warrior not a leader. But she was given the position after her sister died
She's also a Victim of how Inazuma is the most undercooked And Worst Archon Quest of Genshin.
Bro it's just opinion 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠
They are sharing their's? CALM DOWN@@eliteAnime_X
1) "She's not evil" this depends on what each person perceive as evil, because depending on an people's moral set, she can be classified as evil during the archon quest. She by the end of the archon quest admit she knew all along about the Fatui tricking the shogun, and quess what they were tricking the shogun about... the war, so Ei knew all along about the war and did nothing, the same war that as we see in the Inazuma comercial street bulletin board had every family being forced to send at least one adult, the same war that was so brutal the blood spilled was enough to bring back an previously extinct espicies(source: description of dendrobium). She also accepted the decree that locked up the foreigners for no good reasson(and even though she was not the one Who ordered the people to scam and economically explore the foreigners to the point of almost making them starve to death, she was the one Who approved the law that putted them into this situation without actually Caring for the impact it would have on the foreigners and the money that was stolen now belongs to Inazuma and thus Ei, and yet she did not give back an single mora).
2) "She was supossed to be an warrior not an leader" Which would be an good excuse... where it not for the fact that just because she received the title of archon does not mean SHE has to rule, after all she knew Venti and Morax, so she would know that Celestia is perfectly ok with the Archon not actually ruling the land, so she did not receive any forced obligation, so she could still be just an warrior working under someone Who knows how to rule well, her being the leader was her choice and not something forced into her.
@@joaopedrobenicio8283Ei didn’t say she knew about the war. She stated that she knew everything pertaining eternity. Perhaps it’s just the bad writing, but Kujo whateverhisname was also admitted to tricking the shogun by not sending her accurate letters. We have no idea whether she said that because she was too stubborn to believe she was tricked. And it doesn’t help that we were also never told what classifies as “related to eternity”. There were obviously big things about the entire situation she still didn’t know about, considering that at the end of her first story quest she admits to being tricked in a way. Either way, she and Inazuma are pretty badly written. And while I still found it and her enjoyable, there were definetly better ways of explaining the story. Apart from that, I believe everything else you said was right. She didn’t have to lead the nation, but from her voice lines, personality and trauma, I’d find it hard to believe that she wouldn’t lead it. She had a self-obligation of filling Makoto shoes, and even if the writing didn’t make it obvious she still cares about Inazuma and it’s people. Even if her view’s were deraded along the way
Here’s hoping we get more Inazuma lore with the Electro Sovereign, as aside from Tsurumi Island murals and Enkanomiya, Inazuma seems largely disconnected from the rest of the Seven Nations with how they relate to Celestia. We don’t even know what or who the statue was supposed to represent, why Ei decided to place all the visions on it, or why Istaroth broke time and interfered so much there (hell, we got more info about Istaroth in Inazuma than even in Mondstadt).
Makes me wonder if Inazuma and Makoto knew some kind of important secret about Celestia or the Sovereigns. Maybe the Electro Sovereign is just as belligerent as Apep which was why it might be sealed underneath the islanders
I don't think an electro dragon even exists as of now the shogun puppet would have blasted it out of existence
Inazuma is unique in that they (aside from snezhnaya) have distanced themsevles greatly from celestia and the heavenly principles. A big part of this was the sacred sakura which funnily enough Istaroth helped create
@@yellowtourmalinewe are talking about the electro dragon sovereign not electro dragon I don't know if u realise soveraigns are out of the reach of the for those below heavenly principal power level.
@The_original_one considering that they wouldnt have acess to their elemental autority, they would be weaker then an archon
For some unknown reasons after we beat her, she turned into an innocent girl. Like can't they show some of her general strict traits (not just fighting capabilities)
you know damn well the reason why.
I have a soft spot too for Raiden since shes my first 5 star and has my favorite jp va.
Her way of handling her nation was pretty terrible though. She was a bit too narrow minded about eternity and stagnation thinking this was the best for Inazuma. But shes far from evil. At least she tried to change after her encounter with the traveler.
Furina is basically Ei done right in some parts.
She literally visited Posson to see the Chaos her acting as the Archon did. Or rather seeing the cost of her "Inaction" as the acting Archon.
Ei was never given a chance to see the cost of her choices and Actions. We never had a Furina Story Quest Poisson Moment for Ei.
She could have just watched and never revealed herself or just visit the beact will all those Blood flowers Growing.
They could have done that in Ei date quest. Have it start out as a date before ending in Ei reassessing her actions at the end.
I love ei. She's a Lovable Disaster and I will die on that hill. I want her to have better writing.
One small issue. Furina faced consequences of her actions and was even roasted by Arlecclhino, while Ei just gets to enjoy some dango milk after literally oppressing her people
@@cooki3monsta119 yeah plus Traveler + Paimon were being mean to Furina too in the beginning of Furina’s story quest. Macaroni tastes good too!
@@kofabillion Which wasn't intended as the Traveller already knows what Furina Sacrificed for Fontaine by that point. It was just tone deaf Writing since Furina feels comfortable enough to eventually Take up traveller offer to open up to him.
@@cooki3monsta119 There's a difference. Furina was a weak Archon or not even one. Arrlecchino knew that and so knew how Helpless Furina is.
Ei is a walking Nuclear Bomb that turned Signora to Ash.
Difference is. Furina was weak and so you genuinely fear for her at Poisson.
Ei is OP. If people show their dissatisfaction to her, you fear FOR THEM.
Also. Arrlecchino is the 4th Fatui Harbinger. God level Harbingers are 3 above. Arrlecchino literally cannot Roost Ei without having a Last will and Testament First.
@@silverhawkscape2677 Sooo, being feared by people makes you a good Archon then? It just adds more to Ei being a pathetic excuse for a god lmao
“If people don’t chase their ambition they will not die” i don’t think i want to live like a lobotomies person, the people that lost their vision already had struggles living and it looked like it was getting worst before The Traveler show up
yea thats a rough sentence lol
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia sorry for my english, is not my first language
no i meant "If people don’t chase their ambition they will not die" lol
Yae Miko planned everything. She reveals that she taught Ei how to protect herself within Euthymia and also in the same sentence that she knew that the traveller can draw the will of many at the same time. She knows this BEFORE the battle starts. She uses the traveller to bring out Ei so she can rule over Inazuma. Also possible that she knows what the Gnosis is so she had no regret giving it away for something she wanted in return.
Worst written.
I don't like her, but I think she was scared.
She made Makoto an archon because she knew she couldn't do the job right (so sure of it that she killed herself to make sure Makoto could won).
When she had no choice, she got scared and panicked and let her grief rule her.
That actually would have been a fantastic story, if it had been properly written.
They needed the 5 act structure for Inazuma.
But it was only barely 3 proper acts, a date quest where she then spanked one of the heirs of the Kujou clan, and THEN an attempt to make up for the bad writing in her second story quest.
Which was too late to try to salvage it.
She and Kokomi suffered the most from this bad writing.
Ayaka and Ayato also suffered from it, him more than his sister, because his roll in getting the resistance there to help traveler was only shown in his friggen trailer!
Not explained at all in the damn quests itself.
All of these characters were severely shafted in the writing.
But yeah, like I said: I don't like her much.
Barely at all.
But she was scared and suffering from a loss she couldn't properly process and the writing did not deal with that sort of content correctly.
Especially when they tried to stick to the 3 act format.
The story outline was far too involved, more so that Liyue or Mondstadt, they should have KNOWN it was going to need more acts.
Completely agree. I don't like a lot of the Inazuma characters because their roles in the story were confusing mostly due to how the story itself was paced. Their aesthetics are amazing and they are definitely strong playstyle-wise, but their character just lacks a lot of depth that I feel wasn't developed enough in the story.
Tsaritsa still condones genocide so I don't know about that
tsarista taking the great leap forward
“The Fatui’s actions thus far do not constitute a threat to eternity, otherwise…they would have been purged long ago.”
Tbh, this line made it very hard to defend Ei back then because it implies she knows everything the Fatui did in Inazuna and was ok with it. But with her second story quest, it’s put into question because we know Ei would not accept it if she knew what the Fatui did. So in the end, what is it? Does she know? Or did she just said that just to appear grand in front of us? Seriously, the writing in Inazuma is so freaking bad XD.
P.S. Unrelated, but fuck Celestia XD. They started everything. The dragons were just chilling before they attacked them for no freaking reason XD.
Exactly. Ei is so...no, also the writting about her is so... Urgh
Let me try , if u remember raiden 1st story quest after the fight between Ei vs kamaji . She says to susumu
" Finally, if you still think you can copy the Fatui's strategy of providing me with deceptive information to produce flaws in my judgment You will see me appear once again as I have done today only next time, my blade"
This technically implies that she was deceived by the 2/3 tri commission and the fatui
Personally I consider it as her knowing but the writers later on try to ignore it because addressing it properly while maintaining the "waifu" narrative would cost too much time. I consider it despite her characater quests contradicting it because well, her character quests alredy contradict a LOT of lore(an few exemples: 1- When she says in her first quest that she never wanted her eternity to avoid humam live from changing for the better, this goes against the whole point of her eternity, which is avoiding all change, INCLUDING the good changes. 2- Her being so oblivious to everyone being scared of her, which makes absolute no sense considering her previous lore, after all she was an war general for at least 1500 years AND the leader of Inazuma for 500 years, she should absolutely be able to better regonize people's emotions to peform her duties, specially such obvious emotions, heck in the archive, in the section talking about the scene after her first boss fight, it is said she was going to execute the traveler to make an example out of them, this show us that Ei not only understands humam fear but was gonna manipulate people's fears in her favor, which is a lot smarter than what she showed to be in her actual quests and the TCG event.
To be honest I think it’s because they were feeding her false info. She was just too stubborn to believe it was false at the time. To be honest it really is hard to tell. Inazumas archon quest writing is just that bad, but I think that’s the best way of interpreting it since she didn’t agree with their actions later on after learning the truth.
Ei is guilty of neglecting her people if anything. While she holed up in the Plane of Euthymia, the Fatui ran rampant in her country, there was the Vision Hunt Decree where the Shogun's state police literally arrested people for having what the gods gave them AND there was a civil war when Watatsumi Island revolted.
She was even aware of everything yet brushed it off as if it was nothing
@@malinas9377
Ei was aware of vision hunt decree, but not the consequences *some* vision holders has paid. As for war, even puppet didn't knew a full scale of it. She was receiving false information about some rebels/criminals causing troubles. Ei knew even less.
By the end of the archon quest Ei admits she knew all along about the Fatui tricking the shogun, and quess the one thing they tricked the shogun about? Tricking the shogun into not knowing about the war, so yeah Eu knew about the war
@@joaopedrobenicio8283
Shogun didn't knew about the war, but Ei who's only connection to outside world was through Shogun somehow did. Genius.
@@One-EyedDragon This would not be the first time Ei pulls an power out of nowhere, after all we have zero explanation how her plane creation works(which by the way even Makoto has, and she is not an fighter), Ei can create portals for some reasson, she somehow learned how to not just create perfects puppets but also replicate her own strenght, than was also able to make said puppets physically immune to phasing of time, and than she also so happened to know an way to avoid erosion(the thing that even gods fear and have no option but to accept it as an inevitable fate if they live long enough) on an mental level.
She is a bad archon for the people but that's like the least of her problem as a character. It makes for an interesting story if she is just a bad archon who is just bad at her job especially since she was not supposed to be an archon in the first place. We can see why she chose to do the things she did even though we personally feel that she was wrong for it.
But as a character in a story I feel like I would've liked her for how she is written if enough of the other characters were written to have negative feelings towards her. It is slightly rage inducing how none of the characters including the npcs have an appropriate reaction when it comes to her or even acknowledge the problems she created and that's probably why the Inazuma writing is so weak compared to other nations.
I think she represents best what a delity is in general mythology (a powerful neutral force) it's really sad how the writing team had all the tools to properly explore her complexity and shoved most of them in character voice lines or bios.
Anyone in the Kamisato state could have rmirror what the old gradpa does in her second story quest trying to understand Ei as more than this scary strict leader, since Gorou is constantly in the frontier of Inazuma and Watatsumi he could have sympathise in some way with the rival army.
Anything to give one more reason to pull for these characters other than Ayato is voiced by famous seiyuu Akira Ishida in the Japanese dub.
The fact that the baby archon Nahida is the most responsible and intelligent out of the 5 💀
Actually the npcs suffered so much when their visions were taken away from them only for Itto and Kuki almost feeling nothing from it. Shinobu even gave out her vision to Sara by herself cause she wanted to not cause her friend any trouble. Like… if taking vision away had this much power on the one why it was absolutely no deal for these two?? This is the only actual mistake or intentional decision that makes me question Inazuma’s arc. I love inazuma era yet this one question still pisses me off. In inazuma we were traumatised seeing people going mad without their visions only encounter Itto, Shinobu, Lyney, Lynette, Childe giving out their visions or them being taken away and be very chill with that. Kequin felt very fine trying to destroy her own vision, Xiao didn’t even care of it at all. I’m sorry but whine motivation for that “war” is just nonsense at some point. Kokomi though has enough of a lore shield of being the head of Watatsumi people and that island was always treated independently. But what the others - non sangonomiya people - did have to do in that war is kinda… huh. I mean k remember many of those rules Shogun did and Ei approved managed to get too toxic towards people yet… even Kazuha’s friend has passed away in a fair competition. He tried he failed he retried but after d wording. Sometimes I get it why Yae Miko is so careless about it all yet always being aware of what’s going on - it just was so silly she didn’t bother to try to change things. I get it. Queen. As well as her wife
sadly npcs make no money so they will suffer from having their visions snatched lol
Imagine: the MC actually uses their extensive knowledge and experience of other civilizations they have encountered in other worlds to crush Ei’s arguments, Imagine.
Whenever I find a dialogue I didn't like I would screenshot it and send it to Hoyoverse so they can fix it.
There are some words I want Hoyoverse to change in the game.
He's back at it again posting while I help me mother ay? Trying to stop me from getting to this video in 2.0 seconds I respect it.
FATHER HAT FORGIVE ME
Bro cooked with that last line, had me thinking
my man cosmotaco. glad ur thinking
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia You've done so much for me, JUST what I needed to kickstart that last braincell
As much as I love Ei for her backstory and design, she screwed up the most out of all the Archons. For all of Ei's ideals of eternity she's simply a horrible ruler who abandoned her people. The common people faced widespread food shortages due to the Sakoku Decree and a literal civil war broke out due to her negligence. A war the Shogun herself easily could have won before it began, but allowed it to go on causing more deaths and devastation. Combine that with Ei ignoring corruption in her own Tri Commissions, Inazuma could've collapsed if the Traveler didn't showed up. Worst of all Ei never faced the consequences of her actions from her own people unlike Furina who was put on trial.
IMO her excellency Sangonomiya Kokomi is a better ruler for Inazuma because she actually cares about the people of Inazuma enough to fight a literal god despite being the head of a different faith. Inazuma storyline could've ended better if Kokomi became Ei's chamberlain like she originally wanted to in her character lore profile.
Do I have to remind you only Teppei and few others d worded because of Ei’s actions while a huge bunch of Poisson people d worded because Furina couldn’t do anything? How hypocritical of you saying Ei is the most horrible one when you can just at the very least look at the stats and see what’s going on. And also on this channel there is an interesting idea about Phanes actually being a good guy and the one who fought for human rights more than anyone else. And Focalors is incredibly weird, she basically gaslighted Furina’s sufferings while even Neuvillette felt sorry for her, he’s a dragon with a completely different emotional intelligence. Fuck Focalors god bless Furina and Ei
Ei had the right sentiment but the wrong execution.
@@bangtanssera Nah, you can't mock Furina but try to shelter Ei. Yeah Furina made mistakes just like Ei but she ultimately took the best path she felt would guarantee salvation for Fontaine, not too dissimilar from Ei, the only difference is that, in the end she succeeded and Ei failed.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks He did not mocked furina but focalors back read again he clearly separates Furina and Ei from focalors
@@bangtanssera Focalors is a less empathetic, colder version of Ei. Given that she was Furina's divinity incarnated.
She only saw Furina as her ideal human self, but not as her own person. Freeing Furina from her duty wasn't too dissimilar to letting go of a well-crafted and beautiful instrument.
raiden mains after seeing her call istaroth a higher power (she can surely beat her with le booba sword)
I have seen Raiden mains saying she beats Aizen and Saitama 💀
@@joaopedrobenicio8283 sanest raiden simp
I can’t agree to someone who thinks it’s dangerous to chase their dreams. Imagine saying that to a kid man.
It would be interesting if in some future version, the traveler discovers the cause of Makoto's death.
"Guiding humanity" Welll she was the one who created the first version of Inazuma art of smithing and art of polearm combat. Which inazuman later created several different iteration. Unfortunatly Mihoyo decide to make this background lore so most people don't read up on it
Out of all the characters in genshin impact Nahida and Kaedehara Kazuha are the only characters who are very matured and have high wisdom which is the reason they are my only favorite along with the traveler and Dainsleif
Miko was a little girl for much of Ei's life. They have a sisterly relationship somewhat but yeah, not the same as her sister and her original friends.
I honestly think the Tsaritsa is the worst one (morality wise). Not because of her personal actoons but because she enables and empowers psycholaths.
dawit have you ever read the ps4 exclusive wind glider? it has some intresting lore implications for the travler imo
yes I have lol, do u have any questions about it?
Here's my argument based on what I think they thought to justify their actions:
Ei: "I don't want any more of my people to suffer. I will close the borders and make sure to eliminate every threat to my Eternity."
Tsaritsa: "I don't want any more of my people to suffer the same way I did. The heavens must fall, and the world must be reestablished. In the name of love, should my name not suffice."
The former just used her Decrees to cope with the losses of other immortal beings that ended up defying Inazuma's safety.
The latter lost her lover against the Heavenly Principles and now seeks to change the world because she somehow has some records of what the world once was prior to the First Who Came.
These all stem from many theories, and is mostly a headcanon and I am too lazy to individually gather the evidence to support this, so take it with a grain of salt rather than be objective about it.
Can you make a critical review of Focalors next? (Not Furina. Her divinity incarnate) Since, you are playing devil's advocate for Celestia.
great minds think alike, focalors is next
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia I am eager to watch it. Focalors is obviously better and more well-written than Ei despite having less screen time. But we shouldn't ignore her flaws despite the outcome she had brought for Fontaine's people.
Funny thing I've learned:
According to GGZ (still canon lore) The Imaginary Tree, the thing that created the multiverse such as Honkai Impact 3rd and Star Rail, Is the remains/corpse of Zeus.
Zeus In Greek mythology being related to Aether's bloodline ( or you know the primordial god/Phanes bloodline)
Considering that Aether mentioned in his character story/info that Lumine is his "ONLY kins" left , which implies that Phanes and the 4 Shades are all dead
Kins:
one's family and relations.
Aether in Greek mythology is the nephew of Phanes. Technically grandson but Phanes and the other 4 Primordial gods refer to each other as siblings (in Genshin case the 4 shades, which also include Aether's mom and dad)
By this logic it means that Zeus in Genshin is a descendant of Aether
(Because everybody else is dead)
And considering that Aether haven't put his seed in any woman yet (at least none that we know of)
By proxy that means Genshin Impact is the OG universe
Which kinda make sense cuz on the Star Rail official wiki lore page Genshin was not mentioned to be on the Imaginary Tree while Honkai Impact 3rd did
-The Imaginary Tree emerges out of the depths of the Sea of Quanta, which leads to a millennia-long battle between the two entities; the Tree attempts to absorb the Sea, while the Sea attempts to drown the Tree. In consuming the Sea of Quanta, the Imaginary Tree grows an innumerable quantity of branches and leaves, which become universes and civilizations respectively. One of these branches creates the world of Honkai Impact 3rd, while other branches create the numerous worlds in which Honkai: Star Rail takes place.
Here's the generations
- The Primordial generation (where Aether and the others are)
-The Titan generation
-The Olympian generation (where Zeus and the other Olympian gods are)
The moment when you realise Genshin and Mihoyo multiverse is technically just one big family argument/dispute
Basically Genshin is an origin story for the Multiverse and might also be the origin story for the Captain of the Hyperion (the dude we played as in Honkai Impact 3rd)
TLDR for captain:
According to the lore he have 2 ability
-time manipulation(slow, reverse, forward,etc)
-and possession (which seems to have 2 ways of working, partial possession and full possession)
Partial possession seems to be him entering someone's mind but not take over completely, he could even help them by showing when the enemy will attack,360 sensory to know where the enemy is and even slow down time for them
( Honkai impact 3rd third person gameplay mechanics)
Now that I mentioned it, this sounds alot like what happened in Kafka's trailer so Elio might be the captain.
Anyways full possession is what I care about, according to the lore the captain full possession affectively kill the person he possess , he will keep all of their memories, body and pretty much replacing that person.
But the more he do this more he'll slowly forget who he actually is, which also lead to another version of him being different from the original like the Ferryman (also him). From what I know he is searching for something in the multiverse, which might be why he is doing full possession across some universes.
(basically Dottore with possession but on steroid, a multiverse scale)
So technically the captain doesn't exist in the multiverse, by that I mean not having an alternate version of himself like everyone else, every other version we meet is still him but in someone else's body .
But at the same time he still exist, which basically make him an outlier in the multiverse.
Captain lore in a nutshell:
We know everything and nothing about this man
im curious where does Nyx fit into this@@infinitygamecosmic9171
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia
My best guess, queen of the abyss. Just a hunch tho.
Would be funny if she show up and go full Asian mom on our ass
Nyx to Aether:
Your sister? She's already the princess of the abyss and what about you?
Homeless and wandering around Teyvat
Look at your sister and look at you
I didn't know I raised such a FAILURE
So Caelus and Stelle in Honkai StarRail should be the same family of Aether and Lumine? Because Caelus and Stelle are the latin version of Ouranos and Asteria. There is a mention of the présence of twins in the Astral Express before the apparition of Caelus/ Stelle. 🤔
@@capriciaelcid4743 Yes but also no? Given that at the begining of the game Cealus and Stelle was pretty build or rebuild from data.
Not enough lore yet but my best guess is that the original Cealus and Stelle is either somewhere else or dead .
I don't believe she's evil, I believe she is super misguided but that's not really her fault since Ei was not a leader but a weapon to defend her sister Makoto
1) "I don't believe she's evil" this depends on what each person perceive as evil, because depending on an people's moral set, she can be classified as evil during the archon quest. She by the end of the archon quest admit she knew all along about the Fatui tricking the shogun, and quess what they were tricking the shogun about... the war, so Ei knew all along about the war and did nothing, the same war that as we see in the Inazuma comercial street bulletin board had every family being forced to send at least one adult, the same war that was so brutal the blood spilled was enough to bring back an previously extinct espicies(source: description of dendrobium). She also accepted the decree that locked up the foreigners for no good reasson(and even though she was not the one Who ordered the people to scam and economically explore the foreigners to the point of almost making them starve to death, she was the one Who approved the law that putted them into this situation without actually Caring for the impact it would have on the foreigners and the money that was stolen now belongs to Inazuma and thus Ei, and yet she did not give back an single mora).
2) "but that's not really her fault since Ei was not a leader but a weapon to defend her sister Makoto" Which would be an good excuse... where it not for the fact that just because she received the title of archon does not mean SHE has to rule, after all she knew Venti and Morax, so she would know that Celestia is perfectly ok with the Archon not actually ruling the land, so she did not receive any forced obligation, so she could still be just an warrior working under someone Who knows how to rule well, her being the leader was her choice and not something forced into her.
You know today i said this today that Raiden was scared after what they she saw in khaenriah
is that right jordan
Invest in Celestia stocks or get power crept
3-4 died in Inazuma? Sure 💀💀
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@@DawitsLookingforEmilia *5-6K
My allegiance is to phanes since they’re considered the strongest being that came to Teyvat.
see i knew ud understand marcus
She screw up and not given proper story for redemption, instead we got a date with boomer lol
date with boomer is wild lmfao
Long story short. yes.
No she is best
Listen, you know what's really unfair... There is an Electroculy on top of the tower above raiden shoguns room... and you can only reach it with Venti or Kazuha.... now that's some bullshit
For someone who's never meant to be an archon she did her best and continues to do better
The worst is Venti... We still didn't get his 2nd Quest 💀
That's probably cause his Is going to have major plot relevance
I mean…I just think that she was being kinda dumb(? Like, the “eternity” she was trying to pursuit for Inazuma was harming her own people and she just went “I dont care. That’s on them lol”. I blame it on Inazuma’s poor writing but I can’t pretend she was just trying her best for her nation when she talked abt people’s deaths as if they were unimportant 😩 ma’am, then who tf do you want to protect?😩
Wtf did she see in Khaenriah, though…The nation being destroyed by the sustainer’s cubes?
Dude she litteraly saw her sister die infront of her that's what fucked her up so bad
Raiden Ei doesn't have physical body, her consciousness inside plane of euthymia, the concept of eternity to Ei is to have ruling figure to inazuma forever. Ei is Dumb enlighten me how a dumb archon that knows she is not going to live longer anymore and transfer her consciousness into shogun puppet Ei plans ahead , she is concern that her not being there for inazuma so she is taught by Yae to transfer her mind to object which later become Raiden Shogun. Ei and Shogun are different entity Shogun puppet handles all affairs in inazuma , Ei is the one meditates in plane of euthymia. If Ei doesnt care inazuma she let herself died a long time ago from eroding , she lost friends and her sister in the war, yet she is the only strong warrior left capable of single handled kill big bosses like orobashi that threats inazuma. Ei is not ruler her sister is Makoto the OG electro Archon, Ei old role is Shadow that operates like a cold blood killing assassin if she saw threats she deals with it fast, see how signora threats Ei that Fatui will do some plot to her beloved inazuma, Ei did not hesitate to turn signora to ashes
@@AmberMainSaberKnightFavonius Yeah, I get what you’re saying but that isn’t relevant to any point I said earlier. I get where she was coming from with preventing erosion, but she admitted she was aware of what was happening and just let it happen.
Next one we got to do Nahida bro 😂
think so marcus?
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia yes while she is mostly innocent I still believe needs to behudged for giving away her gnosis so easily for knowledge
I mean she had no way of beating Dottore, in that situation she would have lost the gnosis over nothing, the facr she managed to avoid combat, make Dottore lose all his clones and giving her information is great considering how bad that situation was
Funny that I've never seen people saying that ei is stronger than dragon sovereign before watching this video. It usually about zhongli from my experience. Zhongli the strongest archon, zhongli can one shot all of teyvat with his meteor, zhongli is dragon sovereign, zhongli is one of the four shades, zhongli is decender, azdaha is dragon sovereign so zhongli is stronger than them (although i don't know if it's true or not) 😂
lool
Well, my friend we have became enemies screw Celestia!😂
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0:47 L opinion. Was going to watch but dropped. All these people are just dickriding sovereigns at this point without any proof or feats. When entire powerscaling is based on feats.
their feat is they fought against the strongest gods in teyvat for 40 years, and are the absolute zenith of power of their respective elements.
There is a reason their power was kept by the heavenly principles following their defeat and its probably because the world of teyvat cannot function with out them. The archons serve and fear celestia, the sovereigns have challenged them and will continue to challenge them.
yes, yes she is
No she isn't
She isn't even evil, just way too badly written that it make it seem like she is.
The tsaritsa is the worst she literally has one of the most evil , despicable people working for her (dotttore)
damn, thelords dont like dottore
@@DawitsLookingforEmiliafair enough, he does like to experiment on kids after all
CZcams swallowed my page long comment :(
kidding.
it was 2 pages.
bro what
I can't believe you side with fruadlestia
How dare you
@@Roihclem871Fuck Furina
yea how dare you
Ei is a good person and cares for her people, but she's a warrior at heart, not an excellent archon (ruler).
Ei, after witnessing death of her sister, deaths of her friends, Inazuma filled with beasts that ravaged the land and the cost of "unauthorized" progress created a cold, emotionless puppet, delegated all her duties to her, while, filled with grief, isolated herself from the world. Puppet had a sole goal to keep Inazuma eternal, in form of stasis, by all means.
That's Ei's biggest mistake she did, which led to multiple issues through the land. Too much faith in puppet, too much informational vacuum. She didn't even knew the state of Inazuma, how much it changed. She only knew that Inazuma still stands.
At the end of day Ei learned, willing to do and be better. How will it go? We will, hopefully, see.
As for Ei being unapologetic. Well, that's because Twitter didn't reached Inazuma yet, with it's cancel culture.
twitter AHAHAHAHAHAA
How many letters in RAIDEN EI
8. 6 unique ones
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia ATE🙏🏾
Ig genshin community has a lot of snowflakes and can't handle antagonist plot characters like Ei/Vegeta. It a shame that people don't appreciate the story and are being busy in hating Ei
im happy that they aren't part of db community 😂.
People hate her but she's the only Archon that only shows us her true power and godhood. To many archons are instant friends with the traveler and there's no complexity to that. Plus she's an actual God that's powerful
Thats a pathetic excuse for an archon
True, the execution for Inazuma was lacking but her more cautious approach to the Traveler was not one of them.
Zhongli and Venti met others of the Travellers kind of at least that's implied so it makes sense how they react and Nahida had the Akasha but Ei didn't really have that.
you're wrong saying that Ei is the only Archon to never befriend the Traveler at first glance. Focalors never became friends with the Traveler. she didn't even meet the Traveler. if anything, Neuvillette had a deeper acquaintance with the Traveler.
and Nahida showed her powers during the battle against Scaramouche as well as Dottore. it's just that her powers are not martial arts rooted like Ei.
Ei is still better than Scara on my scale. I stongly dislike that little puppet.
I think part of the reason why Raiden Shogun could have been way better as a character but didn't is because Mihoyo refuses to allow it's playable characters to have real flaws especially the female characters, like Furina in the beginning started ot as very haughty and more bark then bite but since Fontaine's Archon Quest she loses alot of her meanyness and all of a sudden she's made to be such an extreme case of a woobie that we're meant to feel so sorry for despite the fact that just like Raiden even she's not without some terrible things she had done or allowed to happen to her/Focalor's nation like in Poisson.
yes
Thank you mother Ei for not making Inazuma be next Khaenri’ah
AHAHAHAA I LOVE HOW MUCH U LIKE EI
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How dare you
Are you an ei simp.
Because I'm also an ei simp and yet I agree with the video
Another day of Hoyoverse having pretty awesome lore but sucking at delivering it 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Nah bruh I still hate her. Inazuma writing so bad even boba sword can’t save it for me
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In my opinion, the biggest inconsistency in the story is the indifference the archons show towards the visions. The power that distributed visions to reward people's ambitions also destroyed a country and committed genocide against its people for the same reason. Why would Celestia reward people's ambition? The mood of the inazuma people who lost the visions makes the visions seem like a tool to exploit people's ambitions rather than a reward. In my opinion, after their role in the destruction of Khaenri'ah, the archons should have been more skeptical of visions. Raiden Shogun is the archon who acts most logically in this regard.
Honestly, the Tsaritsa takes the cake of 'worst Archon' for now- For all her faults, at least Raiden Ei didn't fund labs that conduct horrific experiments on children and force them to fight to the death or started an organization that pretty much wound up being an international terrorist group.
But on the topic of Raiden Ei, a lot of the problems people have with her stem from the poor writing of Inazuma. Ei herself is pretty well-written, but the pacing and writing of the Inazuma Archon quests didn't exactly do her any favors. When I hear people discuss it in retrospect, I can't help but feel bitter about how much better Inazuma would've been had they not rushed everything. Ei did make an interesting point, even though she was very much wrong. It's an often overlooked theme due to the poor pacing of the quest, but Inazuma does end up tackling the question of: "Is it better to live following the Heavenly Principles, regardless of suffering because the alternative is much worse? Or should you break free from their shackles and progress onwards despite the risk?"
A lot of the reason Ei's character gets so many detractors is that her motivations aren't covered in enough detail, and seem kinda stupid at first. While Ei wasn't the best ruler, that's because of a deliberate decision on her part (not saying it was justified, but she does actually know how to manage & rule as Post-Archon Quest Inazuma shows). Understanding the decision is crucial to understanding Ei herself- her decision to walk the path of eternity wasn't just trauma but also a self-imposed duty to ensure her nation would live to see another day. It was a horribly misguided effort born from grief, but in Ei's eyes, it was the better alternative to letting the nation get nuked by Celestia- and I really wish we could've actually changed her stance on the argument instead of just duking it out. Her 2nd Story Quest does tackle her philosophies, but I don't think it was enough really. The Archon Quest should've ended with us getting Ei to see that living without dreams and ambitions is no way to live, even if that's what Heaven wants. (And if that is what happened, because my memory isn't clear, it wasn't exactly communicated in the best manner-).
Also consequences. Granted it's hard to hold a god accountable, but I feel like Ei should've at least spoken to someone who resented her as a result of her actions.
agree with nearly everything you said.
Well yes
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I'm not a fan of Raiden, but Furina is a LOT worse then her. I couldn't even think I can hate a character as much as I hate Furina, she's just despicable
do u mean furina or focalors? tf did furina do
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia thats exactly the thing. In 500 years she didn't do anything. Look at what was happening in Fontaine. Child trafficking, drugs, murders, she knew it, she didnt care. She just walked out of Wrio's trial without ever wondering how kids got into this situation. For 500 years she didnt even try to do anything while being in a position of power, just cried and ate cake while children starved to death on streets. She tried to get an innocent person in jail for a murder without the slightest care. She abuses animals with no care about how they feel. She only cried only about herself, cared only about herself, was scared only for herself, she is a self centered hypocrite
Idk why people are so hateful to her she’s my favourite archon. For the same thing all fandom loves scara - being immoral in the past but stepping on the road to change - it hates ei. Just misogyny, really. She was helping inazuma all the time while destroying gods who weren’t even trying to be peaceful to humanity. There are exceptions like Orobashi yet there is thunderbird who just liked one human and very rightfully was dangerous to every other human in teyvat, let’s be real here. The fact people close their eyes on her biography says a lot about how people still shame depressed people for being unable to not be destructive. I can’t believe I have to say it in 2023 but please open schools and teach them kids about basic mechanics of depression, I swear those kids need it to understand how people function in such states. People of inazuma don’t just blindly praise Raiden they know she did to them well, the only thing she messed up was that meditation period yet people of Inazuma doubted her DECISION but not her being worthy of still worshipping
i think ei being a combo, of the first morally questionable playable character we had in the game, plus bad writing, plus killing signora, made alot of people feel a certain type of way about her.
For me I pity Ei than Focalors and Furina, Ei lore is sad AF all her friends and her sister died, eventually her own physical body is gone also, she built her puppet for the purpose of having leader figure for inazuma for eternity, People saying Ei is just hiding doing Yoga, bruh learn to read and understand the lore behind. Ei consciousness live in plane of euthymia and shogun operates puppet from outside world. The sword of her sister Makoto holds immense power that Ei houses in her puppet, Imagine like if the puppet goes berserk like Scara that starts destroying inazuma and other nation. Ei did have a fight for the shogun puppet for trying to change her ways and views to inazuma. I dont want to favor Ei yeah she is my favorite archon that's why i have to analyze and get into deeper lore. Ei does her job well for the last 500 years and kept her presence alone on her promise for eternal ruling for inazuma she protects it from outside enemies from abyss, Ei deserve the credit all of her effort she even bother to build her own robo puppets and born scara prototype for the sake of being the eternal guardian of inazuma. We know the haters of Ei is Signora simps and wanters
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia But Ei is far from the first morally questionable playable character?? What about Childe and Zhongli? And yes, I count Zhongli in this because his grand plan in Liyue AQ isn't exactly all that moral either. At that point just let playable characters be how they are without the sob story bs. Fandom's general reception of Zhongli kinda proves that questionable morality and actions are less of a deciding factor than the level of attention those things are given by the story.
Personally speaking, the further the story goes, the more it becomes obvious how little consequence Ei's actions had for her compared to someone like Furina, who is literally just a human. Inazuma (so far) is the most deadly of the 7 nations for a regular person to live in, 4 out of 6 islands are practically uninhabitable and Watatsumi and Narukami are both not looking too hot either. Until some of that is alleviated by none other than the Traveler, not Ei. For me the question was never about her reasons, because no reason undoes the harm. That is the most civil way I can put it. Can't wait for Hoyo to make Tsaritsa "marketable".
People hate her because depression doesn't give anyone the right to let people die. My nation's leader is depressed? Guess I'll die then :D
Also your assumption about the whole fandom loving Scara is literally not true, he has plenty of haters just like Ei has plenty of fans as well, stop generalising.
And you need to understand that bringing a character fandom into it does not make sense and even if she "tried" helping Inazuma, then she failed at it and didn't even faced her consequences. I understand that loosing a family member is hard but this still doesn't mean she should just pass her role on a puppet that also caused chaos while she was aware of what was happening in Inazuma yet shrugged it off as if it wasn't important which why I do not like her
Yes, she is.
No
Who is to blame? Of course hoyoverse they made her so shit and so bad and so much more
lmao
Raiden by far is the top 2 character design and back story. Even if they fucked up the archon quest nobody gives a shit. This character is too cool and hot to be hated. If ur hating u probably think tighnari is a decent character
tighnari catching strays lmfao
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