Setting Up a Workshop? The Tools to Buy First (and Last!)
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- čas přidán 17. 11. 2022
- None of the tools mentioned are sponsored in any way! If I was new to woodworking or setting up a new workshop, there are certain types of tools I’d prioritize over others. This is based on how I do woodworking and the tools I use for my projects. You may have a different priority for certain tools.
I tried to show the types of tools I would buy, as well as some example tools. I haven’t used all of these exact tools. They would simply be on my list to look at if I were buying. I can’t vouch for the performance of the tool or someone’s specific experience.
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You’re a brave man even tackling this topic 😂.
Must be one of the most contentious topics in woodwork.
Man folks get defensive about their tools lol. Your disclaimer was spot on and hilarious! I told someone in a Facebook group they didn’t have to have festool or sawstop to make beautiful pieces and you’d have thought I just kicked a puppy or something lol.
Great video. Thanks for sharing it. One thing that motivated me to buy a SawStop saw was cutting off the end of my thumb on my old saw. Since I have limited space in my 10' x 20' shop I went with the jobsite saw. It works great for me.
My dream tools: Harvey table and band saw, and the new 3m sander. That's it. Lol. Everything else that I have is good enough for anything I'll ever do/make.
Great video man!
Hey a quick shoutout. Followed you method and managed to NOT stuff it up. Thanks for the easy to follow and simply explained tutorial. Legend
I have the SawStop contractor version and its great. Occasionally on the ragged edge of being underpowered, but you can move it around, which I need to sometimes. So for me good overall saw.
Great stuff as always. Here's my 2cents.
It comes down to a couple of fundamental choices. What kind of projects will you build? What kind of woodworker do you want to be? What kind of lumber are you starting with? How much space do you have? Of course, budget?
My goals were cabinets, not cutting boards. I planned to be a traditional power tool guy with a table saw at the center. Found good deals on a new Dewalt 7941 at a pawn shop, Bosch 12" Glide used for 1 project on Craigslist, Dewalt 735 was an awesome deal on Amazon, Factory blemish Rigid spindle sander (thanks 731), old school standard Porter-Cable router from a friend who was clearing out her tools. My cordless tools are mostly Milwaukee, and also have Makita.
Deals are out there if you look hard. Don't forget estate sales, but get there early.
Things changed for me when I got a track saw. I'm now a hybrid power tool guy. There's merit to Festool's way of doing things. You can live without a table saw, but I'm not there yet.
Best advice I got was buy what you need to accomplish the current project and add as you go. No need to get a garage full of stuff cause you may do something (guilty, my planer was in the box for a year and the wife reminded me of it 😉). For cordless tools, get into a platform that you can grow with. Don't buy cheap, but you don't need to buy the best unless its the right tool (I only have a few RED tools.). Do keep an eye towards the next project/skill/capability when buying but don't go overboard. When you get to the next level, good tools will always have value to the next person.
And finally, don't underestimate the cost of accessories and shop improvements, like ppe, jigs, blades, bits, finishes, other consumables, dust collection, electrical (circuits, outlets, 240V) and HVAC.
I don't remember not having a table saw and a chop saw but I'm sure the chop saw came first and I use the table saw the most but for post or 2x4 or 2x anything it's easier faster and as accurate using a chop saw and for a new woodworker I'd go with the miter saw for your first tool , add a jigsaw , pick a project and go!
All about how we work, right? Even when I first started, I didn't use a miter saw. It was one of the first tools I bought but it just sat there.
I know everyone likes to jump into this types of vids and say what about this what about that. In a smaller shop, I hesitate to recommend a table saw. I would argue that a track saw and some like the Kreg Adapative Cutting System would offer a great deal more flexibility. Everything from breaking down sheet goods to cross cutting. Which also allow you to hold off on a miter saw. The last advantage is safety. Track saws can still be dangerous if not used properly, but less so than a table saw. I would also say that I've had very good luck finding slightly used tools on Facebook Marketplace. Buyer beware. Don't fall for scams. They are out there. Deals are out there as well.
When considering a power tool, especially the larger cabinet table saws and jointers/planers, make sure to check the power requirements. Some need 240V so some electrical work may need to be added to your overall cost.
Really great advise here. I'd second what you say about the sander. I've had them all from the cheapest sander to the expensive festool sanders. I must say, adding dust extraction to the sander makes a night and day difference.
Great video Billy really appreciate it. Think you should a series on budget tools in same style as what you've just done think people would appreciate it. I myself have purchased some einhell tools and man there a great budget option. My one right now is a plainer that's were a need go next really struggling find decent one I can afford. 🏴👍
Great video. Looks like you did a lot of homework on this.
For routers, I find the 1.75 HP is all I have ever needed, unless, I'm using very large bits like to make doors and such. I would advise to get one that can also be used in a router table.
I picked up a Wahuda thickness planer last week, it has segmented knife blades but isn't technically helical. It's a great tool for $749!
Perfect timing Billy, great overview and priority list! Loved the subtle nod to Frank at the end ;-)
I can comment on the Grizzly 899 hybrid cabinet saw. Very well designed and made. Factory tuning was right on the money. Some assembly required. Smooth running, arbor run out under 0.001”. Fence is rigid, locks down well. Fence made more repeatable by adding a $120 Wixey electronic readout. Easily repeatable to 0.002” and accurate to well under 0.005” when calibrated.
On the planer buy the used DeWalt 735 and upgrade it with a Wixey gage (accurate to a finished thickness of under 0.005”) and a helical carbide cutter head. You’ll have a fabulous, accurate, smooth planet that easily handles wild grain because of the shearing cut provided by the helical head. Upgrade installation, about 3 -4 hrs for both.
It must be nice to produce amazing content like yours, keep up the good work.
Love your work !
I have to fill some gaps for you on the freestanding/cabinet planers. You missed discussing a key difference in function in this space. Does the head move, or does the bed move? All the machines you featured had the head move, not the bed. I prefer the machines with a stationary head. Increased accuracy, etc. See the Grizzly G1021X2 for example. $2695.00 helical head beast of a planer with a stationary head. And if price is a factor and I could find a straight knife planer with a stationary head, I would take it over a helical head that moved up and down. Then I would upgrade to the helical head down the road a ways and have a better, subjectively of course, machine.
Harvey Woodworking makes fantastic tools as well. I would highly recommend the table saw especially at the price point. Their customer service has been delightful too. Thanks for the video Billy, entertaining as always.
Good to hear, I’m seriously considering the Harvey. I refuse to drink the Sawstop koolaid. When they stop kickback (the real common danger of a table saw in my option) I’ll consider them.
When I Tried to by a Harvey Dust collector and several other tools for my new shop. I could not get anyone from the company to even return my multiple emails, four phone calls so I gave up on Harvey, Bought an Oneida V3000, A Saw Stop, Powermatic 8 in Planer, Jointer 12 in Planer, Drill Press, Shop Fox Shaper, planer moulder. I am happy that you were able to get customer support, but for me it was none existent from the San Francisco Area which is 192 miles from me.
Harvey puts out outstanding tools, I bought a new 4hp table saw with router table and it had some shipping damage and there customer service was top shelf. I had new parts within days and they continued to follow up to make sure everything was to my liking Best in the business 👍👍👍👍
@@midnightsun2483 I had a similar issue when i purchased my 2hp saw. the wheel that controls the lift on the saw blade was flaking off and they sent me two new ones within a week.
Another very happy Harvey customer here. I’m shocked to hear that someone had issues with no return correspondence, as I’ve had nothing but extremely positive experiences. Bought their 4 hp table saw and holy cow, precision at its finest. It’s a tank too. They have me hooked.
There are helical cutting head kits that fit into the Dewalt planer. I don't know if there is one for your 734, but Grizzle of all people sells a helical cutting head that can replace the existing straight knife cutting head in the DeWalt 735 and 735X for $350. So if you already own a 735 or a 735X DeWalt, you can move up to a helical planer without having to sell your DeWalt and start over again. That said, if don't already have a planer, Grizzly has a 2 HP 13" benchtop planer with helical cutting head for $695. This compares to $600 (on Amazon) for a DeWalt 735 and $630 for the 735X. So unless there is something about the rest of the planer besides the cutting head that makes the DeWalt a better overall choice, the Grizzle planer sounds like a great choice.
Nice be must it, to have such a great channel! Love it!
I love my Bosch 1617EVS routers. I have 2. I primarily bought my first one to use in a router table but loved it as a hand-power tool so when I found a used kit with the plunge and fixed bases for almost ½ the retail price, I couldn't pass it up and haven't been sorry. They're damn near bummer proof. As far as a trim router goes, I highly recommend the Makita trim router. I bought the corded version as a kit with fixed and plunge bases and the price is unbeatable. I would seriously consider the battery version but the corded variety for my budget. It wasn't even a contest when budget was considered.
I absolutely agree on the miter saw subject. I mean I have one but that goes to jobsites and it's awesome for framing, etc but doesn't really get used otherwise.
I would add to the table saw discussion by saying unless it's a budget consideration, stay away from job site table saws. There are so many problems with them. The distance from the cut being the biggest. Most kids these saws cannot support more than 4 to 6 inches of material before the cut. If you're working by yourself that's a really big deal. Also a cat majority of these saws have unstable rip fences. Most of us get interested in table saws because of the rip capacity but if the fence sucks, what's the point? Another huge problem is the throat plate. So many have a weak, flexible throat plate that deflects as easy as the super thin sheet metal they're stamped out of. Unless you know you can reliably replace the throat plate with something that's not flimsy, don't buy it.
Also, splurge on a good jig saw. I wouldn't give up my Bosch jig saw period...
Harvey, Harvey, they’re awesome machines.
I have a delta unisaw 3hp, made in america with the beismeyer fence and i love it. The only way id upgrade is if i was able to buy a sliding table saw. Although id like to make an attachment, ive seen a good video for that. 🤠
It's often over looked are sliding table saws. Even in a small shop I'd still have a sliding saw. More expensive initially but given what you can do with it and other tools it can be made to replace it's a solid option.... Especially if you go with induction motor.
Some great advice here. I pretty much only do scroll saw work and im getting money for birthday/christmas so I have been putting a list together of tools I could use that will accompany it for projects I make. I have a portable table saw (because of limited space) and a compound mitre saw on the list, but your advice came in handy perhaps I don't need the mitre saw
With practice and patience, you can make a ton of jigs that will make your table saw so much more valuable than a miter saw. If your table saw is accurate. That's my problem... mine is not terribly accurate and there is no more adjustment.
Maybe a cheaper miter saw? Harbor freight has some pretty decent ones, especially if it is mainly rough dimensioning. Good luck either way!
A fine German slotted screwdriver.
I love my DeWalt 7491. If only I hadn't used the top as a table when building the shop out and routed into the aluminium surface.
I highly recommend Harvey table saws they are far superior to saw stop.
I guess I was lucky I got my old Walt planer for 50 bucks I've been using it now for about 10 years love it I don't like the idea it's only 12 inches though lol
I have the Delta.....it is very passible
I love my Incra fences 🙂
Must be nice to make videos that bring so much good content. Ok ok sorry had to see if this gets deleted, :-). Good video, good info.
Any issues w/upgrading a planer like the DW735 w/a helical head?
Not that I've heard of. It's always an option.
I am new woodwork scroll saw
I like it scroll saw
THANKS IM UNDERTSTANDING BETTER NOW
What about Harvey table saws?
I've heard good things
Absolute perfection. Precision craftsmanship and durability. You will be very impressed.
First in the comments to call you a gatekeeper without justification!🎉
Watch out for a short arbor. The DeWalt saw’s arbor is too short for a dado stack.
The 7491 is dado capable and ive used mine a lot.
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This video seems miguided, the premise of the video is “getting into woodworking” yet recommends a festool sander as a prerequisite. This does not seem logical. Though I like festool, I respectfully disagree with this notion as well as most of the video as a whole
I understand that someone may disagree on the sander (even though I did show a $50 Dewalt as well) , but you disagree on most of the video? Please don't be dramatic. There's enough of that on the internet. I'm confident if you think about it you'll find that you agree with the primary aspects of the video such as buying tools you can afford and making sure you purchase tools that are safe, regardless of the cost. I showed how to save money buying used tools and I showed a wide range of good tool options from a few hundred dollars for a great table saw all the way up to expensive cabinet saws. I'm sure that any reasonable person would agree with these aspects.