What Die-Hard Fans Don't Even Know About The Grateful Dead
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- The Grateful Dead is one of the most famous cult rock bands of all time. They never quite achieved mainstream success, but they have some of the most devoted fans one could imagine.
The band has admitted that sometimes their fans, nicknamed “Deadheads,” can go a bit too far, and even if you’re one of the biggest Deadheads out there, there still might be some things about the Grateful Dead that surprise you.
From their unexpected origins to the misconceptions about Pig Pens’ death, let’s take a look at some things that even die-hard fans might not know about the Grateful Dead.
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They started in Palo Alto | 0:00
The Grateful debs | 1:03
Viral marketing pioneers | 1:28
Un-Grateful dad | 2:04
Garcia was in a Richard Nixon commercial | 2:35
Pigpen didn't die from drinking | 3:01
Blame them for yogurt | 3:24
A long strange trip | 3:56
Altamont changed them forever | 4:42
Hall of Famers | 5:08
Addicted to love | 5:47
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What's your favorite Grateful Dead song? Always liked Eyes of the World
mine is Peggy-O
I guess perhaps "Row Jimmy", if not, "Box Of Rain". Can't really decide between them.
U.S. Blues :: Most revealing song they ever wrote
deal or franklins tower
today it is easy wind, of course live.
This is all common knowledge among Dead fans.
czgibson not everything, not the Nixon thing... Lots of kewl shit.
That's what I was going to say. But, by the end I decided that there were a few things here that I didn't know.
FACT! I bet ----->>>>czgibson is a newbie and hasn't even been to a live show!!!!!
Yup !
viktor mengele It's a fact that you bet that? Even if he was a "newbie", should we hold that against him? Should we go around at shows asking people how many shows they've been to to determine their worth?
Interesting sound track for this short documentary. One would have expected some Dead music...
I know your right. Wtf they throw a little He's Gone in there, but come on!
It’s due to CZcams’s copyright policy
Unless written and produced by the unDead
Muzak is music for the dead
The background music couldn't be less relevant to the Grateful Dead, or anything else covered here. It's distracting.
you've never heard Shakedown Street?
Bro, this sounds nothing like Shakedown Street. That song is so mellow and funky
the background music is far more interesting and creative than any song by the Grateful dead😆😆😆. i dont even have to be on drugs to enjoy it 😎
As an audio engineer back in those days , what impressed me the most was the sound of a good night was something that to this day has not been duplicated .it was unique . Garcia was a guitar god .
Indeed. Their sound, the quality of their sound is unmatched. That's really what brought it all together. Thank Owsley & acid and their individual & collective brilliance for that.
I wish I could have heard them in those days. Some of the audience recordings of those shows, when made with good equipment in a venue with decent acoustics, sound amazingly good, just from a couple of mics set up in the room. It must have sounded even better in person. The band were innovators in many ways.
the title of this is a joke. 95% of this is common DH knowledge.
100%, IMHO.
Greatest band of all time. Thats really all you need to know. No other band will continue on forever because no other band worked as hard as they did.
Louie P Definitely not the greatest band but they had some REALLY good shit! From 1970-1975 was some of the best music recorded. Europe 72, Skull and Roses, and Reckoning are great albums. Europe 72 is is the best. The 1974 movie soundtrack is great too but more often than not the xm station plays straight garbage, they had more shitty music than good in my opinion
No such thing as "best band ever." 100% subjective opinion, nothing more.
@@davidpfeifer9489 imo their late 80s performances are their best material. brent is the best guy they ever had on the keys and by then he was as solid as any other member. I like their early 90s stuff when they'd sometimes have vince and bruce on and that insanely good saxaphone player, holy shit. 70s had some really good energy behind some of the performances but I'm really not a fan of the contributions kieth and his wife made to the band's sound. check the 7/2/88 performance of row jimmy to see how big of an impact brent can make on a song vs kieth/donna, doing what both of them do at the same time. 70s still has my favorite scarlet-fire performance, though. 4/23/77. and of course that 5/8/77 dancin in the streets.
Communist pushing basterds..
Sorry .best band ever lol cheers
I knew Pig Pen's brother. He died of the same thing. The owner of Saint Micheal's Alley on university ave told them to come back when they knew how to play. The night Jerry died, they busted him out of rehab and went to get milk shakes and cheeseburgers. Pig Pen's sister took all the old Warlock tapes to idaho where they are sitting in a basement to this day. Those are a few things Dead Heads would not know.
Milkshake and cheeseburgers sounds about right, but Who is they?
Jerry, Bobby etc. The Warlocks. It was Vernon Gates who told them. All those old Palo Alto people are long gone now.
Actually when I asked who was “they”, I was asking who “busted” him out of serenity knolls the night he died. I thought he had self admitted incognito.
I got the info from Jerry’s defense attorneys daughter. Not sure of who they be. I was in Palo Alto the day Jerry died. I have never been a dead head. Too close to home. Dead Heads are from Ohio. More like family to me. Like La Honda and Kesey and the PA veteran’s hospital. Because one flew east and one flew west.and one flew over…
Wasn't just a band, it was a way of life. "Fire on the mountain" could hear in my dreams.
I didn't know all of this trivia, just most of it. If you dont know about the creamery benefit then I envy you. Its my favourite show bar none. Now that it has an official release you can buy it by looking up "Sunshine Daydream" on your music site of choice. The 30 minute Dark Star into El Paso never ceases to send a shiver down my spine...
Concerts were the sermon. The Lot and the Campgrounds were the party. The road in between was the reflection of all the love and memories shared.
are these you words? either way, well put imo
And Jerry was the Leader of the Band!
Yeah, we already know all of this, but thanks.
-Casual Grateful Dead Fans
Some people commented that every Dead Head knows this stuff, but the part about Jerry's picture appearing in a Nixon commercial, his insisting that Hunter be inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, and the band doing a benefit concert for Ken Kesey's yogurt company were new and interesting facts for me.
When I was at the 08/27/72 show in OR, all we knew was that the Dead were playing a creamery benefit concert in a field in the woods. Now, who wouldn`t want to go the that? The show didn`t make enough money to save Nancy`s company, so Grateful Dead gave them the money out of their own pockets to save the Yogurt company. There`s a little trivia for ya.
Sweet!
also, in the annals of the dead history, this show is nicknamed "the field trip"
True...I never knew those things either
"We've got 200,000 thirsty hippies! We need to be ay-lert! Ay-lert!"
I love that you mention the Bob Weir documentary, and then day Jerry didn't want to be at the rock hall induction. He was dealing with health concerns at the time, which is clearly laid out in that documentary. He may not have been interested, but he was also physically unable to go, hence the cut out....
That was not a marketing gimmick, they allowed bootlegging because all fans wanted to follow all the live shows
Ripple in still water
When there is no pebble tossed
Nor wind to blow
"Where does the time go", Jerry? 24 years gone, but your music lives on.
I seriously doubt that Altamont was all that influential in getting them to change their sound. They were headed in that direction anyway.
I had heard the dead Hired the Angels to do security there....hum????
Thats right the new riders of the purple sage, jerry garcia band. I saw a show that lasted around 7 hours of all of Garcia's side groups, and Robert Hunter Band at a hockey arena in 1978 on long island ny
Yep! Thank The Band and songs from the Big Pink. After that everybody from The Dead to Clapton wanted to go deep roots etc
@@only5186 Yep. It's all about Robbie Robertson. Sheesh
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Yes they most likely had a part in the hiring of Hells Angels for security. Good thing they did, who knows how many people would have been shot? Also; who was the guy going to shoot? A Hells Angel? Someone else in the audience? Someone on stage perhaps? Hells Angel or not, the man who stopped that guy from shooting anybody is a hero in my book.
Lot of stuff to digest. Only saw them once just before pigpen died. He was onstage the whole time but only played the harp on a couple of tunes. I don’t think Mickey Hart was with them then, not sure. Wow, what a band. Never had another opportunity to see them, and never heard tunes later than the double live in Europe album. Wow, what a great record that was. I need to listen to their later stuff. Saw Jerry at a convenience store I think near Mojave or somewhere near Barstow in a little desert town. What memories. Hope he and Ron rest in peace.
Whenever I'm sad or going through tough times I take out my guitar or I listen to some Grateful Dead. They really speak to me. When I close my eyes it's like I'm travelling through time and am speaking to Jerry face to face
That's why they went through all that. To give folks like you & me hope.
thanx as a guy who cares much more about the musc than the personal lives of the band members - was shocked to read about Bobs family and the brothers guitar - very cool stuff
I think it’s crazy how weirs half siblings were dead heads themselves and didn’t know that was his brother
How cool if the half siblings were fans ? Imagine
If the rumors are true - given how long they toured - Bobby probably had some kids in the audience he didn’t know about too
This video might be decent, if it weren't for the ridiculous title. This is Dead 101. Most casual fans would know most, if not all of this. Die hard fans like myself would be bored.
" I will take you home "
-transports me back to
" Once upon a time... "
Mom is a deadhead. Apparently she's been to well over 550 concerts, she was one of the people that traveled the country following them with a 65VW Camper. Interesting talks with her sounds something like "so mom, what drugs have you not done?"
Actually the reason I was ever born. She's from Philadelphia but the Dead brought her to California where she met my dad. I may enjoy their music but I appreciate them for bringing about my existence.
I met my wife at The Spectrum in '85 ha ha ha. @ wonderful sons now who love The Dead, etc. I even have 2 grandkids now. Says it all.
No other bands music still resonates as strongly 50 years later as the GD's music. They are the greatest American Rock Band of all time.
Never was a "DEAD HEAD" but one of my best memories is having a few beers with elderly gentleman at a bar . we talked for several hours when he informed me he had to leave to go to the concert , I asked if he was going to the DEAD concert ? He just smiled and said " I think I better " . after he left the bartender said "you have no idea who you have been drinking with do you ? " I was informed that was why he liked to come in , younger patron's did not know him and he could just be himself for a few hours !
Robert Bottoms cool story LOL
"Now let me tell you about when Jerry and I were west Texas cowboys and hightailed it to Mexico."
I thought that was Bobby?
I'm trying to figure out who the elderly gentleman is
Mc Daniels Jerry Gracia
It's pretty impossible that an "elderly" Jerry would be out in public drinking a beer anywhere near the vicinity a concert venue in the 80's or 90's. He was pretty much holed up in his hotel rooms the entire time while on tour for protection. Do you have more details you'd like to share?
You kind of glossed over Altamont. For one thing, Phil Lesh described in his autobiography, Searching For The Sound, that he got roughed up by one member of The Hell's Angels who was in charge of backstage security. He had told the person three times who he was and what band he was in, but the HA in question kept saying "Sorry, No Entry" before actually pushing him to the ground. Luckily, there was another Hell's Angel nearby who recognized Phil, and sorted things out. Also, and this is actually in the film Gimme Shelter, after The Jefferson Airplane got off the stage, due to a Hell's Angel punching out guitar player Marty Balin, Jerry Garcia arrives at the site, and asks the other JA guitar player, Paul Kantner what was going on, to which he replied that one of the HA just punched out Marty Balin. This is why The Grateful Dead decided not to play.
A true dead head knows this. I got to see them MANY times. Something that a lot of people don’t know is that they didn’t like being associated with drugs. They didn’t like the stigma that followed them in that respect. They were a band that liked to go on musical journeys and THAT is what they tried to share with people. Still a good video though, thanks. 💀⚡️🌹
Every die hard fan knows all of this this is like the easy shit
Hearing jerry talk makes me cry he reminds me of my dad that past away he used to literally be there biggest fan I always remember him blasting their music on giant speakers and me bothering him about being a fanboy 😂
Although being a dead fan since 68 I met the grateful dead way too late,but soon enough.As a local carpenter I was sent to work a show with the road crew, pretty much round the clock for three days, in the real early nineties.Down to earth,Great people. Good times man good times
very cool - some good nuggets in here
Now this was a great video
Am I the only one that remembers on their bass drum it said "Property of the Hell's Angels". It also said that on Big Brother's bass drum. I heard Janis would party with the Angels and get smacked around.
Weir probably WAS linked to Nixon. His Bohemian Grove relationship provides a possible link. More than coincidental.
DJ McGrath lol! Explain more of that connection
That's just crazy conspiracy theory no way we're these guys enslaving their fans with drugs there is absolutely no symbolism in any of their albums go back to sleep now
Weir? It was Garcia in the ad
wow. Inspiring sound track!
I, for one, knew all of this. And the phrase "endless guitar noodling" is an insult. The word you were probably looking for is "improvisation".
Well done. "Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile..."
they didn't necessarily encourage the recordings at shows. They just refused to police it, and let it happen.
They did designate an area in the audience. The"tapers" area. Garcia was quoted as saying "once we are off the stage, we are finished with the music. They can do what ever they want with it" They now have bt.etree.org and archive.org with almost everything they ever recoreded on it which was just about everything since 1964. So maybe they didn't encourage it but they did accept it as part of the Grateful Dead experience.
Right, and I don't see it as a "marketing gimmick", more like something that developed organically because they treated their fans well and always tried to put on the best show possible, which was also just a result of trying to satisfy their own lofty expectations
About time a video was done on the dead.
very cool. that band taught me alot
Was at Jerry's final show in Chicago and was in Frisco when Jerry died, huge gathering at Golden Gate park was beautiful.
What a Great Band , I Miss Jerry
Terrible.Nothing new and they don’t even play Grateful Dead music in the background.
You have to pay to play now days.
Good video, lots of neat facts... But forgot to mention they originated from the Band the Warlocks (later to be known as the Velvet underground).
They suggested using the HA for security to the rolling stones
Muchas Gracias.
I met dead heads at a show that didn't know Jerry was in the army, it got brought up because it was veterans day, and my twin is a vet, it is odd how Jerry was kicked out for fighting, I know he is only human, but think about it, Jerry Garcia
Just got back from Chicago. Jerry would be proud of the boys. We will be traveling again from Wichita to see Dead and Co
then after he met his biological father he joins the Bohemian club which includes the top politicians and industrialists with very questionable ethics.
Is that true? I didn't know that. Oh Bobby....
i saw the interview and have been told this by friends of mine a few times over the years. the interview was a interesting attempt to play off the gathering of the elite of the world getting together just relaxing and no rituals what so ever. there are some uploads of people secretly recording what they could. it was some weird behavior. anyway in the interview he admitted to being in the bohemian club or group whatever the exact name was. i can not remember right now. i will look it up and post the address here. you can watch for yourself.
I totally believe you -- I am familiar with the Bohemian Club as it's a big deal here in the Bay Area.
big hupp and call's it "a great place for artists".
Willis, put on your thinking cap! :-)
He wasn't a Colonel THEN. He was probably a 19 year old kid.
a right before Garcia's death,a friend of mine claimed jerry has seen more faces on earth than anyone who has ever lived.once you added all the shows the dead.JGB,JGAB,etc..
I'm not saying at one time like billy Graham addressing one million at one time but but collectively.
And four times as many faces of people on acid :) Yeah probably so! That is a trippy thought! And most of them were 😃
There is hardly anything new here for Deadheads but great to hear it said again.
Rumor has it that Bob will be peddling Mobile 1 oil soon.
many inaccuracies:
1. Janis didn't die from alcoholism. She OD'd from heroin.
2. Pigpen did die indirectly from alcoholism.
I love how this brings the assholes out of the woodwork. I enjoyed the video, so thanks for the post. Having said that, any negative posts about the video or the fans of it or the Dead or wannabees are coming from folks who have entirely missed the point of being a deadhead.I'm a deadhead because I choose to be. I dont know every fact and every historical tidbit. I just love the music, the lyrics, and the fans. after 30 yrs I still do, and I'm pretty sure I always will. That is what I believe qualifies me as a deadhead. There is a tidlewave rolling across the music scene today that started as a ripple over 50 years ago, and I for one plan to ride that wave till the day I die. Much Love Now And Forever.
A voice of reason! Yeah, it's about the music and the vibe. Naysayers, et al, obviously don't get it and prolly never will. Row Jimmy is a true classic Jerry/GD tune! 😎
We know all this. ;) deadheads know a lot more than you may think.
I have unsuccessfully tried to convert my music-listenin' friends to Grateful Deadness. But that's okay , I guess to me in my small circle they're all mine.
if I was doing lsd ,I'd laugh my as off at most of these comments! every "die hard deadhead" had to start somewhere, so let other peaple start there own long strange trip. sorry we were late.
Can you sync this vid to louder music? cause I can't hear the music your already using cause it's not loud enough. something with more cowbell.
"Viral Marketing Pioneers" right... put a hip new slant on the Dead's refusal to act like dicks when people taped shows.
They encouraged it, and it certainly helped to get word out. It was free advertising and highlighted the live performances that albums missed.
Live was it. That was where the magic happened.
You mean "what's common knowledge amongst deadheads"
This is well done, but I knew about all of it except 'Bobby's Brother's Guitar'...
Nice 80’s Hendrix style groove for this one! 🤔
I knew every bit of that and what the fuck music is playing when you have the best band on earth that you're talking about?
Im dating myself by knowing the spinner who died at the Esalan hot tub. He was a diehard. I had other friends that passed on early. Because they got involved with heroin. Now America is really caught up dealing with an epidemic. It saddens me that we have they experience but now way to convey to these young kids, what they are getting involved with..
Thank you to the Dead family for every fun experience.
I think that there is away to educate. Much more needs to be done .
I just have been more than die hard as I knew all this stuff back in the day. Unfortunately, I was only able to devote 8 years to Tour! Should've jumped on the bus much sooner!
I miss those daysssssssss. ***Hugs***
I did not see the yogurt reference coming but I did say exactly that when it first mentioned yogurt
This video mentions something called the “Altamont music festival”. That wasn’t the actual name of the Stones’ free concert. In fact it did not have a name. It was just a free concert on the Altamont Speedway in Livermore California
Ripple Box of Rain, Morning Dew. Terrapin Station the list goes on
I'm sorry but what is that loop in the background - WHY didn't you play the Grateful Dead instead?
I read recently that Jerry almost auditioned to join Bill Monroe and The Bluegrass Boys on Banjo, but chickened out at the last minute. Imagine the different route history would have taken had he followed through and gotten the job...
This should be called what this documentary doesn't know about deadheads
Yep We All Know this...great for all the news kids tho! Cheers 🥂 to that❣️
Are you freaking kidding? I knew every one of these things!!!
Bob went to high school with my dad. He taught him how to play drums lol
"What every Deadhead already knows" would be a better title
I smoked weed with Jerry in 1975. He was touring with Merle Saunders in Albany, NY. I was experimenting with a prototype DBX compressor/expander. I met him at the hotel he was staying at close to the concert and pitched the idea of recording him. Next thing you know, I was in his limo heading to the venue. At the time, I was running Jamaican weed from South Florida to Albany and I rolled three joints. While I was backstage, I asked Jerry if he wanted to get stoned on some good Jamaican weed. "Sure." he said. And that's when I realized that the shirt with the joints was back at home. "No problem," said Jerry. "We'll smoke mine". And we did. And I never washed my lips again after that. /|\
QueerAndUnplugged I ( along with many others) got to see Jerry when he was touring with Saunders at the long gone Capitol Theater in Passaic NJ in the early '70's. Actually if I remember correctly, I saw them twice that week. It was a fun show and one of the many I saw at that great small theater. God, the bands I saw there; Steven Stills, The Kinks, Yes ( during the Fragile tour) Hot Tuna, Traffic and on and on!! If you were from the northeast, you made the Capitol Theater scene many time. Old and slightly run down but what sound and it held 5 -7 thousand if I remember right. Everyone loved playing there and being a dyed in the wool Jersey boy, those were my people!!! Jersey fucking rocked back in the day!!!
Oh, many many times I saw shows at the Capitol Theater in NJ. Jackson Browne, Warron Zevon and I can't remember all them. Ravages of time and debauchery. /|\
Oops I spoke too soon; the part about ken’s brother chuck being the owner of Nancy’s Yogurt 🤯 just blew me away 😳
How about The Other 1 ? Loved that jam off the Grateful Dead Album
I miss Jerry! I knew all of this already :0)
great info, but one small correction.... jerry met others in east palo alto, in whiskey gulch, not palo alto..... pretty big difference, though..... very rich meets very poor. for better or worse, whiskey gulch is gone, replaced by a four seasons hotel and law offices....
The GD punked out at Altamont. The stones didn't want to go on either, but they reasoned that there would be a riot if they didn't. When they finally got on stage, the crowd was restless because they had been waiting such a long time for another band to perform. That space of time was supposed to have been filled by the GD, but at the last moment they backed out. Maybe if they went on, things would not have become so ugly for the stones.
Also, jerry Garcia’s work with David grisman is well worth acknowledgement. Yeah, if I knew the way, I would take you home!
Mom is a deadhead. Apparently she's been to well over 550 concerts, she was one of the people that traveled the country following them with a 65VW Camper. Interesting talks with her sounds something like "so mom, what drugs have you not done?"
Actually the reason I was ever born. She's from Philadelphia but the Dead brought her to California where she met my dad. I may not like their music but I appreciate the
Damn pretty much learned all of this in 'playing in the band', albeit the Nixon thing... Surely H.S.T. would comment.
Why did you capitalize Die Hard? Makes it look like John McClane fans not Deadheads.
Patrick Lenehan Ummm.... they capitalize every word because it's a title. Duh.
"die-hard" was a slang term before the movie with same title came out. A die-hard fan is a super-fan, more into the band/thing than most fans.
(That's why true die-hard deadheads have complaining comments that they already know all this stuff.)
Yippie kai yai yay mother flower
The day Pandora tells me something I don't already know about the Boys is the day I'll burn about 600 masters of the shows on my front lawn.
This is a well made, fun little 6 minute trifle that might inform some latecomers. Comments of the silly. Of *course* most of us know all or most of this shit. My first show was '73 (Maples Pavillion) and so what? Take exception to the title, obviously, but some great shots and screen grabs, and seeing Phil in that tux always cracks me up (But, primary biliary cholangitis can be directly related to alcohol abuse.) And it stings when he say "half-century ago". . :-)
WoW ... I didn't know yogurt was a Neesh food ! If I would have known that, my Neesh might have lived a longer and healthier life.
Gary Johnson niche*
How about the part about MK-ULTRA and project Monarch?
Weir went to my high school, I love where I live
Most deadheads already know most of this stuff. I didn't know about the Nixon commercial, though. That was weird. Also, the full story behind the Veneta concert.
My friends died for me to save my life.. Thank you Scotty, micheal, and Jeff.. And countless others who got caught up in stupid heroin.
I bet you didn't know that the Dead could control the weather! I've been at concerts where the rain stopped and the sun came out.
can anyone tell me about the puppets at 1:55 in the video?
Did you forget that this is the grateful dead and their causal fans are like diehard fans for other bands
Another fact not mentioned....Jerry didn't always wear a black t-shirt
Where can I find stuff that I don't already know ??
ok ..................i didnt know about Bobby's Telecaster...that's cool shit