Deadheads are TOXIC

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  • čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
  • Let's have a chat about something kinda serious. The toxicity of deadheads on the internet as it pertains to the forward momentum and new shapes that the dead are taking. If you enjoyed the video, please subscribe and consider joining our patreon or donating to the channel. LOVE YOU!
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  • @Biteyourownteeth
    @Biteyourownteeth Před rokem +284

    I worked with the Dead in the 90s on tour as an all-around tech. I spent a lot of time on stage setting up/breaking down the guys gear. Mr. Garcia's main focus at that point was keeping the entire team employed even though he was not feeling very well and was not enjoying the burden of protecting his privacy at all times. It was a rather lonely existence with extreme segregation from other people at times. He didn't need the money or enjoy touring but felt he was responsible for all the families that relied on the Dead for their jobs. He was very concerned with the well being of the fans as there were a lot of casualties, dysfunctionality, legal liability and security concerns. He never pigeon holed the deadheads as any one kind of person and was proud that the music created affinity with a vast cross section of people from all walks of life all around the world. He was a basic good guy, very bright, who liked drinking coffee and practicing guitar, who was at that stage doing his job as part of a vast profitable company that he never planned to create. He made sure that the crew was taken care of with simple things like good pay, good healthy food and we felt appreciated. In hindsight I am sure many of us wish he had gotten off the road and taken care of himself. But it was juggernaut that developed massive momentum and the money was huge. I vividly remember Bill Graham backstage with a huge smile on his face sneaking out of the venue after the shows with few grocery bags stuffed full to the brim with merch cash. Money like that night after night is hard to pass up. Modern day pirates for sure. Thanks for the awesome music Davvy.

    • @Captain_Brian
      @Captain_Brian Před rokem +4

      Keeping the monster eating was a huge requirement. Remember when they had to pre spend the tour guarantees

    • @BreadLobby
      @BreadLobby Před rokem +4

      If I lived when Jerry was alive and I met him, I would ask him who the fuck he is. That'd probably make him feel nice 😂

    • @bigmike5785
      @bigmike5785 Před rokem +15

      Yeah....I've read books about jerry too.

    • @samiracle956
      @samiracle956 Před rokem +2

      This remind me of touch of grey specifically the verse about the dog not being fed in years. It’s like them sayin “hey here’s a pop hit just to keep the machine going”

    • @uncledeadhead3674
      @uncledeadhead3674 Před rokem +25

      really, so the fact bill graham dies in early 1991, and wasnt even on tour with the band in 1990, but you saw him in the 90's? come on. the stories are ridiculous

  • @hostesscupcakes8130
    @hostesscupcakes8130 Před rokem +102

    So, i have a dead story. It was the early 90s and i was a sophomore in high school. The Grateful Dead were coming to town and i really wanted to go, it was gonna be my first concert and i really liked the music. My mom bought me tickets and a new dead t-shirt to wear to the show as a present. I was really excited and my mom drove me out to see them. Out in the parking lot, tons of people walking around, vans selling food and shirts and jewelry, it was really amazing. I was looking around, and this group of people came up and just started making fun of me and my new grateful Dead shirt, just calling me names and saying i know nothing about the dead. As a 16 year old, it was really discouraging and ruined my experience. Then, an old couple came up and started giving them trouble and calling them assholes and to leave me alone. When the group left, the old guy offered to trade shirts with me, probably seeing that i was upset about it, and I did. My mom was pissed when she picked me up, but it was a good memory that i am thankful for and i still have the shirt today. Yeah, some deadheads are toxic and assholes, but others are pretty good. My mom would say that no matter where you go in life, there will always be assholes.

    • @Oldcrow77
      @Oldcrow77 Před rokem +10

      I had been seeing the dead since 77 on Oklahoma
      Move to LA for work.
      My Buddy and I worked in the restaurant biz.
      We where in the lot at a So Cal show. Looking for doses. This guy started calling me the worst thing possible “Narc” I cussed him out and said some of us actually have jobs that require you to cut your hair !
      Kid came up on his skateboard and asked how many you want.
      He disappeared in the crown and was back in a flash. I had been on the bus for over a decade at that point. I could understand the assholes assumption. But he was still an asshole

    • @sirfizz6518
      @sirfizz6518 Před rokem

      We all have part of us that's an asshole. Hopefully we try not to shove it in everyone's face.

    • @mr.niceguy1498
      @mr.niceguy1498 Před rokem +4

      Same thing happened to me in the mid 1980’s.
      It was always,”your not a real deadhead.
      What the hell does that really mean?

    • @rocpile2517
      @rocpile2517 Před rokem +9

      A lot of those people that came along in the nineties were not dead heads they were troublemakers looking for drugs And they completely ruined the scene

    • @worngimimajosplaynholmes6907
      @worngimimajosplaynholmes6907 Před rokem +2

      @@rocpile2517 right , so heaven forbid we had a bad attitude towards new comers.

  • @matthewatwood8641
    @matthewatwood8641 Před rokem +78

    I'm currently homeless. Started busking after the pandemic hit. I play mostly Grateful Dead. There've been many times that I pulled myself out of a funk by reminding myself that Jerry probably had plenty of moments in the eighties & nineties when he would've loved nothing better than to go back to living in his car & surviving on peaches with Robert Hunter, playing coffee houses & stuff.
    I'm a lifer. Signed on for the full tour, baby💀

    • @BreadLobby
      @BreadLobby Před rokem +9

      Fuck yeah man! Play I need a miracle at shows n shit. That will get you free shows and probably some free acid and grilled cheese. Come on homeless man, you need a band? Let's play the blues on the streets together dawg

    • @jwright4686
      @jwright4686 Před rokem +8

      I don't necessarily automatically tip buskers, but if you play the Dead, you have my money!

    • @matthewatwood8641
      @matthewatwood8641 Před rokem +2

      That's music to my ears 😁

    • @BreadLobby
      @BreadLobby Před rokem +3

      @@matthewatwood8641 haha if you come up to Portland Oregon comment on one of my two vids I got posted, we can work out some jams fo sho. Portland is a good ass place to homeless in the summer. I was living under Hawthorne for two years and it was relatively alright

    • @denverguitarhero
      @denverguitarhero Před rokem +4

      Im a busker too! Good on ya. I play dead songs like jack straw, warf rat, and he's gone

  • @jonasmr9549
    @jonasmr9549 Před rokem +12

    Great video and discussion about dead culture. I appreciate the perspective on different generations getting into the music, and how future generations will have their own story with the music, but ultimately keep the flame alive. Its built to last! Make more content like this!

  • @Treebeard1992
    @Treebeard1992 Před rokem +2

    I just found this channel, loved your crazy fingers tutorial and also loved your jokes and goofy antics. Really enjoyed your commentary on this video as well! Keep it up!

  • @palakabrad
    @palakabrad Před 6 měsíci +1

    Dig your stuff and way, Davvy. I need to sign up for your Golden Road lesson. Keep it up, bro! Aloha🤙

  • @keithsytsma
    @keithsytsma Před rokem +2

    Stumbled across this in my home feed. So glad it was. I subscribed to your channel and gave this a thumbs up. I am 50 years old and got turned on to the Grateful Dead in 1985. I got into trading tapes and have a great collection. So refreshing to hear the message we can agree to disagree with out getting all mad about it. Today communication at times seems to be a lost art and people forget being cool to others is cool. Look forward to enjoying this channel. Thanks again Davvy!

  • @jamescrafford7127
    @jamescrafford7127 Před rokem +13

    I think the 'headier than thou' thing comes from a lack of otherwise having a strong personal identity. I think most people who are like this are probably a bit lost / don't have a whole lot going for them outside of the scene. The dead and its scene is a source of a lot of their strength and purpose or, at the very least, filled some kind of personal void (if it genuinely helps them thats great). When it becomes part of identity it becomes part of ego, and many many people become quite defensive / imposing when it comes to their ego. The gate keepers are the worst and in opposing spirit to what the music is all about. - a big fan

  • @ryanriley746
    @ryanriley746 Před rokem +1

    Really incredible video, Davvy. Thanks for your hard work!!

  • @colinpanarra8007
    @colinpanarra8007 Před rokem +3

    Awesome video man! I connected with the Dead more after my father passed and we played He's Gone at his service. People like you helping share content and positivity is what this is all about and learning through your videos connects me not only with the music I love but my own special memories with my own Dad.

  • @WEREWOLFCaT_STORIES
    @WEREWOLFCaT_STORIES Před rokem +12

    “One way or another, this darkness has got to give” new speedway boogie is my melodic mantra to bring me back.
    The kicker -
    I hear it in my head as your voice.. as first time I heard it was on your stream with that great reverb vocal.
    ❤ cheers brother.

  • @GratefulGrove
    @GratefulGrove Před rokem +2

    Excellent take and the points you bring up all ring true. Video editing is on point too, as always.

  • @eugenelove874
    @eugenelove874 Před rokem

    Love this video! Love your honesty! Thanks man 😊! This is good stuff ❤️

  • @erikortlieb7282
    @erikortlieb7282 Před rokem +9

    Ripple brings much of the essence of the dead front and center, “if I knew the way, I would take you home”. Home in this sense is whatever universal energy deadheads and the band identify as “the magic” of the GD. The band can’t take us home, they’re just as confused and frustrated as we are, you will have to walk the road alone. They aren’t gods, they’re imperfect humans who are reaching for the same things the OG heads were/are reaching for.

  • @Captain_Brian
    @Captain_Brian Před rokem +7

    Davvvy laying it out! The music never had constraints and it will continue to evolve. If heads aren’t happy… go listen to your maxell 90’s. All the new ensembles and addition of “couch tours” via online stream & even the app relisten are all part of the growth. Everyone needs to, yes listen to your favorite years, but also be thankful for what ya still get! Keep truckin brothers & sisters!! (PSA. I have no connection to anything. Just point out the current options for access)

  • @RobertBardos
    @RobertBardos Před rokem +2

    Great talk Davvy. Sending love bro

  • @jackreeves2499
    @jackreeves2499 Před rokem +2

    loved the video! im 17 rn in high school and il admit Mayer brought me to this music. if dead and co mission was to spread the music as much as humanly possible it worked I think. cause now I listen a ton of old dead shows, phish, goose, billy strings, allman brothers, and all that and now it’s all I listen too and it’s a lot of what I play when I play guitar. i completely understand why someone would not does not like Mayer but he definitely brought people to the music. I mean now I go to so many shows each tour. I love your channel cause I love learning about the stuff I wasn’t alive for. and for that I thank you for.

  • @zummo61
    @zummo61 Před rokem +4

    Great video. I agree 100%. I am 61 and started seeing the Dead in 74 and hope to keep seeing this music celebrated for generations in all its forms. Keep it up dude. I support you 100%, even if i keep bugging you about that Love in the Afternoon intro. 😂

  • @michaelderose397
    @michaelderose397 Před rokem +5

    I love the notion of "owing something to the song." I always felt that way about lots and lots of songs from Dylan, Garcia/Hunter, Nanci Griffith and for some reason the Moody Blues too. I'll use that line now. I owe a lot to those songs.

  • @deadreckoning6288
    @deadreckoning6288 Před rokem +5

    Dude, your hilarious. You got the gist of it for sure. Old head here, seen all of what your talking about. For me it has always been about family, the tribe, coming home & the music is home. Be kind, do no harm. Being at a show was always the one place where I felt accepted to be my authentic self. That is rare in mainstream human society. Being at a Dead show was the greatest experience this old boy has ever been blessed with. NFA ⚘💀☇

  • @romanborysiuk5910
    @romanborysiuk5910 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Really dig what you are doing. You are a great teacher- I've learned a lot
    from you. Rock on my brother. Thank you.

  • @MrCallowayrm
    @MrCallowayrm Před 8 měsíci

    Is that speaker box behind you from "the wall of sound"? If so, where did you get it?

  • @leeanians-mueller
    @leeanians-mueller Před rokem +3

    Great stuff. I always try to learn one thing per day - you passed on three things I did not know. I am good for two days

  • @TimHMCO
    @TimHMCO Před 7 měsíci

    Brother you just summed up every feel i've ever had about our family. ❤

  • @trentonbarnes5230
    @trentonbarnes5230 Před rokem

    Great video - thanks for making it

  • @Pathological_Flyer
    @Pathological_Flyer Před 6 měsíci

    Very insightful ❤

  • @tommuir4313
    @tommuir4313 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for this. I can't remember anything. Just love the music.

  • @rayanrahbari5619
    @rayanrahbari5619 Před rokem +10

    All I wanna say is that the first time I saw Bob Weir and Wolf Bros, we all hugged and all I could feel was love for every being in my life. THAT to me is thee root of it all.

  • @daveyboy8907
    @daveyboy8907 Před rokem

    Great talk as this all needed said...Your killing it bro.

  • @badbassfishing9974
    @badbassfishing9974 Před rokem

    I'm really happy to have found you on here. The good parts are always harder to remember. But there have been a lot of good parts. I was never a dead head, my friends were. They dragged me to so many shows. You remind me of the people I loved. That's good enough.

  • @donaldemeyer
    @donaldemeyer Před rokem +5

    Bay Area born, this was the music of our youth, for free in the park. You pretty much nailed it... I dig what you're doing.

  • @DeadHeadCrypto
    @DeadHeadCrypto Před 3 měsíci

    Love it! ❤

  • @JerryToneStore
    @JerryToneStore Před rokem +1

    This is incredible dude. All the love

  • @SwirlyWhirlyXYZ
    @SwirlyWhirlyXYZ Před rokem

    Rad Davvy. Looking forward to seeing you on tour at an ancient amphitheater on an endless summer

  • @johnrobinson7036
    @johnrobinson7036 Před 3 měsíci

    Davvy, found your channel within the past couple weeks and really enjoy it. I’m 66 and started playing the guitar two years ago. It’s a blast and I’m all over the board with it: blues, country, rock, funk, jazz, folk. The Dead check all the boxes and do it so well. Thanks for the great lessons among other things. You seem to be in a good place right now and that’s good. Subbed.
    P.s. Wondering if there is a Toby. Peace.

  • @Ethan-gy2xj
    @Ethan-gy2xj Před rokem +5

    U don't even need a resume to convince people ur a "deadhead". If u know another song other than Casey Jones and u like it...congrats ur a deadhead.

  • @jwconstruction9065
    @jwconstruction9065 Před rokem

    Good talk Davy. Thank you

  • @lukewarren7857
    @lukewarren7857 Před rokem

    Thanks davy for all you do
    also, the laughter's as my family is drinking gnarly Head winery ~ namaste ~

  • @TravisHouseless
    @TravisHouseless Před rokem

    well said my brother, so happy I found your channel

  • @jonnycrill7223
    @jonnycrill7223 Před 8 měsíci

    Great take. You hit home

  • @TOMas12408
    @TOMas12408 Před 5 měsíci

    Preach Davvy!!!

  • @michaelcardamone3745
    @michaelcardamone3745 Před rokem +1

    The longer I listened to this video the more I dig your talking. You’re real

  • @ryanmattingly6292
    @ryanmattingly6292 Před rokem

    It's okay I'm glad you're coming to the point of understanding the flow of this culture

  • @scarletfi
    @scarletfi Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for posting this. It exists in other band communities, too, such as Phish where folks fight about fandom like there are tiers. I appreciate your POV of just focus on the music and the love, we're all in this together and all are just trying to live while we can :) Why not choose kindness?

  • @augustwest5771
    @augustwest5771 Před rokem +2

    Yeah I've found alot of narcissism with Dead Fans. For me it's all about the music and it being a lifestyle of love,compassion and kindness. Preach brother 🌹⚡️

  • @todd8038
    @todd8038 Před rokem +7

    As a gen z head(zoomer) i entered the scene online seeing people talking shit about anyone, it didnt make sense. As ive grown into the scene the past two years I respect each player of all jam bands. Its good to see homies show to show, especially fellow students who love the music. Personally i mix the drugs but not much because i feel as if some “drugs” can really enhance your senses.

  • @rcw08
    @rcw08 Před rokem +1

    So I am totally new to the Grateful Dead scene and I really appreciate the lex I love the soulfulness I love everything about it and I listen to various jam bands on Pandora while I'm driving my 18 Wheeler so thank you thank you I've discovered something that has already been in front of my face for a long time.

  • @johnobrien5486
    @johnobrien5486 Před rokem +2

    That’s what it’s all about man! Been playing with a gd/jgb cover band for about a year and I’d say I also have a complicated relationship with preforming the guitar solo as well/overall performance.

  • @samboyd5951
    @samboyd5951 Před rokem +1

    Davvy, you rock from the toes on up dude and you know it!! Don't take it the wrong way. Sadly, there are some strange people out there who like the taste of puke in their mouths. We are all weirdos. Me and many others appreciate you sharing your weirdness every week. (Expanding on the idea. Somewhere out there is someone who loves the smell of a skunk. Like if something is rotten they like it. Our tastes vary so much. Our kindness should not). I couldn't have said it better myself- Oh wait, I just did. Muchas Gracias Davvy. Your life is all your my dude!

  • @judwillmont4856
    @judwillmont4856 Před rokem

    I like you stuff man. Thanks for the rant. I love what you said about how the dead songs are becoming the new ‘standards’ - I’ve felt that way for a while as well. I do what I can to play the music out here in China cat land (yes, I live in China). Rock on bro and keep making vids. I learn a lot from you.

  • @paulorobertosoaresjr.6436

    That was nice and valid and necessary. Thank you very much.

  • @hilltopmel9150
    @hilltopmel9150 Před rokem +6

    As a good friend pointed out, It’s cultural suicide to push away young heads. I was on tour as a teenager in the early 90’s and still go to shows and dance my ass off. I’m so excited when I see young people digging the music. We gotta keep it alive in the youth or it will die with us old heads.

    • @herbythechef7624
      @herbythechef7624 Před rokem +2

      Yeah people gotta be kind to new heads. The headier than thou additude gives the culture a bad name

  • @josephsacher1048
    @josephsacher1048 Před rokem

    I just came here to say thank you for this video (and all your other Play Deads). The message here is solid and applies to all walks of life. I thoroughly enjoyed the message and am glad you did it. I never liked the dead coming up and had so many people telling me how great they were, like trying to convert me to baptist or something. I think I heard some of those terrible shows and often thought these guys are playing two different songs at the same time. It wasn't until I started playing guitar with others that it began to click. Eventually I was in the right place to receive. That said, I still remember where I was when I heard Jerry died 20 years or so earlier. This past year I went to my first show, seeing Wolf Bros at The Kennedy Center. It was the most "joy" and "communal joy" I felt at a show, ever. Everyone I met was on the same wavelength. The orchestra took it to a whole other level, too. This stuff can evolve and will evolve. So thank you again -- and also for the Golden Road Course! I had been playing lead for many years now and your approach and charts helped me see something I never saw before, opening up another level of playing and I really appreciate that. So thanks for kicking off my weekend and hope yours is equally good!

  • @mootbooxle
    @mootbooxle Před rokem

    I would totally hang out with you and jam. Really dig your vibe broski.

  • @bwt6885
    @bwt6885 Před rokem

    Thanks for the great video lessons Davvy. Just finished David Gans' 'Playing In the Band' and a lot of what you said here about the music being the core of all of this effort and energy related to Grateful Deadness, with everything else being secondary at best, was voiced by the members of the band. They were just in it for the collective-spontaneous-adventurous musical creativity. That's it because that's all there is. Peace and would love to hear more about these Deadhead Cartels in a similar video from y'all (though I think I know what you mean there).

  • @matthewdonaghue1431
    @matthewdonaghue1431 Před rokem

    Much love davvy! You fucking rule 🙌♥️⚡💀🌹

  • @MichaelDeFillippo8889
    @MichaelDeFillippo8889 Před rokem +2

    very well said Davvy.. I agree the bottom line is just to be kind to everyone even if they like dead and co lol. like u said it's all about the MUSIC. inclusion, not exclusion.

  • @josephsaunders8618
    @josephsaunders8618 Před 7 měsíci

    Heady Hazing… I love it!

  • @talizmondakine1995
    @talizmondakine1995 Před rokem

    Speaking of toxic fans....you got me through Corona....thank u for teaching us

  • @dannydonnelly8345
    @dannydonnelly8345 Před rokem +2

    All I can say is NRPS. New Riders were incredible, we referred to them as Grateful Deads little brothers.

  • @thebepis712
    @thebepis712 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Im relatively new to the dead. I never had a chance to see Jerry play, just listened to the live albums. Now that im am adult and can afford tickets have seen dead and co a few times and it was an incredible experience. The music, the crowd everything was amazing. I never cared much for john mayers solo stuff myself but i love the energy he brings to the show. I don’t care how many comments I read of a bitter person saying if you didn’t see Jerry you aren’t a fan. I’m going to enjoy this version of the dead and will probably enjoy future iterations.

  • @ourfinaldaysoffical2921

    Amen, brotha! Be kind

  • @ryanmattingly6292
    @ryanmattingly6292 Před rokem

    Davvey.,,..🥳🐿️.…….. I'm glad you do spit out like that……. I was already on the same page but I love to hear your heart and voice ❤️🥰

  • @danielcoash303
    @danielcoash303 Před rokem +1

    davvy knows goose :D Drop the LESSONS broski

  • @keytone5184
    @keytone5184 Před rokem +1

    Its all good man I love yr stuff don't let the bastards grind ya down...keep on truck n

  • @kingkillah101
    @kingkillah101 Před rokem

    Good job!

  • @kylehogg5860
    @kylehogg5860 Před 7 měsíci

    Your Bobby's A Wonderland!

  • @markolukin4331
    @markolukin4331 Před 2 měsíci

    I really appreciate the lessons you give on the Dead. I have been a Deadhead since the mid 80"s. I have also been playing guitar and writing for 30 years. I always wanted to be in a band that plays all Dead, and recently I got the chance. I figured no problem, I'll start learning the songs and bam! Well start playing live. Stop! I never realized how complex and different their songs are, even though I've been a huge Head forever. I was learning by eat but what I was coming up with was missing a lot of the nuances in their songs. When I found you on utube, I instantly was able to pick up on your teaching. In most cases after 1 viewing. Just want to thank you. After the 1st week I went to rehearsal and the guys were blown away. My soloing was no issue but I showed up playing the songs the way they actually sound. Forever grateful brother.

  • @karma0amrak
    @karma0amrak Před rokem

    Hey Now! Just stumbled upon your channel. You playing in Georgia anytime this spring?

    • @TobyDavvy
      @TobyDavvy  Před rokem +2

      This Saturday (Feb 4,2023) we will be at The loft in Columbus georgia

  • @ryanmattingly6292
    @ryanmattingly6292 Před rokem

    I dig your charisma Davvy

  • @dominoefxxx
    @dominoefxxx Před 7 měsíci

    I'm picking up a guitar for the first time this winter, with the soul intent of playing dead. Is there a place with your content you would recommend I start? Or is there somewhere completely separate from your own content you'd think I'd be better of beginning?

  • @evancosta
    @evancosta Před rokem +1

    Very well said, I really enjoy the current DSO lineup with Jeff Mattson and I also really appreciate Dead & Co. (I’ve been to many shows and will be there this summer for the final tour). I’m excited to see what project Bobby will continue with next, his shows with the Wolf Bros this past fall were amazing. It’s like you said, it’s up to us to carry the music on, to steward it into the future for the next generation of fans. And your 100% right about that we shouldn’t hate on new fans for how they come to enjoy the music.

    • @jonathanlund590
      @jonathanlund590 Před rokem +1

      I'm seeing DSO tomorrow night which is Friday at the Warfield in S.F I prefer them over the other groups that are exclusive to the band, well them and jrad are equally good. Just the fact that a tribute band can sell out that venue for both nights is quite impressive

    • @evancosta
      @evancosta Před rokem

      @@jonathanlund590 I would say their ability to recreate the experience of an original GD show, along with the occasional use of original gear, paired with their ability to play/sing definitely helps them to fill out venues. I hope the Warfield show is dope!
      At the end of the day it always comes down to what we like to hear, whether that be the music as it was written/performed or the music played in newer ways and or interpretations. I wish DSO was a bit closer to home on their current tour, cause I would definitely love to see them again (I definitely will). In the meantime, I’ve been checking out some of the local projects that are my area in the NE, lots of good ones here with interesting takes on the music.

    • @jonathanlund590
      @jonathanlund590 Před rokem +1

      @@evancosta what's kinda funny is with the dead we were blessed with Cali shows all the time like between tours and 4 Nye shows but now DSO and jrad which I consider the 2 best tribute bands for both musicianship and sound quality,both are based on the east coast and before covid there were always one or the other playing at Brooklyn bowl or capital theater.but since I only started hitting dead shows in 87 so my first DSO show was at the actual Filmore here in San Francisco and by the second set I had a pretty good idea what a 70 Filmore show felt like

  • @mattculver1702
    @mattculver1702 Před rokem

    Exactly my point! Be kind! Please don’t blow out another bands candle in an attempt to make yours brighter!

  • @HoneyHolerz
    @HoneyHolerz Před rokem +1

    Definitely heard of St Owsley!!!

  • @kerryc.7438
    @kerryc.7438 Před rokem +1

    I just picked up a bluegrass book on Amazon, just flipping through the pages I can’t believe how many tunes that are in there the dead covered and JGB , it’s unreal

    • @shovedhead
      @shovedhead Před rokem +1

      Jerry especially loved the American songbook, no doubt. I marvel when I hear his insertion of banjo riffs into unlikely places.

  • @Oldcrow77
    @Oldcrow77 Před rokem +6

    Your comments are spot on. First show 10/11/77 then I moved to socal for work in 86. Felt like an alien in L.A.
    Went to the last “Real” Dead on the Beach shows in Ventura and reconnected with “Family”
    By 90 I was living in the hills of Mendocino doing respectable work.
    Became friends with Steve Marcus when he married one of our close tour sisters.
    Met my future wife at Friends JGB birthday Run after party in San Diego.
    We got married in Hawaii with Roy Rogers and Peter Rowan as our wedding guest and Peter played our late night party.
    At the pre wedding reception my sound guy put on “keeper of the Key”
    David Nelson Bands first CD.
    Imagine standing there with Peter “Panama”Rowan and hearing David Nelson.
    I then got to work with DNB for a magical, crazy 20 years. Tour/production managing and giging them in Mendocino and Hawaii every year for over a decade.
    I’m not saying this to name drop. But to underline the fact that I have had a incredible life and everything I have is because of The “Good ole Grateful Dead” I can’t imagine it any other way and couldn’t have planned for such a wonderful life.
    People that weren’t fortunate enough to experience the live X Factor of when the crowd would push and the Band pushed back harnessing the energy of the moment and taking it into the ether will not understand. But I know many of you do.
    First law of thermodynamics is that energy cannot be destroyed or created only Re-focused.
    And some nights collectively we were smashing atoms.
    Thank you Jerry for all you gave us!

    • @sethstine4698
      @sethstine4698 Před rokem +1

      10/11/77 first show? What a first show!!!! Dick Latvala is quoted saying that 10/11 is one of the few examples of "primal dead". Great Help/Slip/Franklin's, Let it Grow, and the Dancin > Dire is legendary. I'm jealous.

    • @halColombo
      @halColombo Před rokem +1

      Most of these youngsters never saw David or Peter live, or even heard of them.
      Cool story bout your wedding. Gnar gnar
      (~);}

    • @mattneapolitano7996
      @mattneapolitano7996 Před 2 měsíci

      Awesome job not name dropping! I'm inspired for sure. So you were pals w SMarcus but not Jerry. That sucks.

    • @Oldcrow77
      @Oldcrow77 Před 2 měsíci

      @@mattneapolitano7996 Not pal’s exactly. He was married to our clan and was very gracious to us because of it.
      Steve is a very nice guy.
      Only had a few very brief with Jerry and they where very brief, “like in the same space at the same time, but didn’t feel at all at ease with bothering him. Felt more like giving him space.
      Yes I have lived a very cool rock n roll fantasy life.
      Having Van Halen’s mgr take my rolling papers from me, only to twist one for his guys when we were in there dressing room and when they where opening for sabbath on their first album tour in like ‘78
      Other great forest Gump type rock n roll situations
      So name dropping or story telling, call it what you want.
      Of course I have the thank you note from Bill Walton and his wife and a pic of all of us together at vegas when we gave the seats all the 3 days
      And saved them from the sea of fans bugging him.
      Not a day goes by that I don’t think how blessed I’ve been.
      Like I said before, I owe it all to the Grateful Dead and rock n roll in general.

  • @zackmarkham6726
    @zackmarkham6726 Před rokem +2

    I've shared a lot of these same thoughts, man. It ain't about us, it's about the music. Fuck the headier than thou bullshit. Keep on doing you, dude. I appreciate it. 🙏

  • @peterjarrattmusic
    @peterjarrattmusic Před rokem +23

    I have always felt like I have not earned my keep being a dead fan. Although I personally have never felt directly intimidated by more experienced or knowledgeable fans... I definitely have an almost subconscious guilt about not having put in enough time and effort studying the music or experiencing the culture. Its a weird thing to explain. Basically, I think with other musical acts.... Lets say the Stones and the Beatles.... someone could easily consider themselves a major fan even if they only had a couple albums that they loved. But with the Dead, it almost feels like you need to know every single song name, all the best live bootlegs, need three concert tees and 50 stamps on your passport proving that you left the Universe and understand. lol I do, however, realize that this is largely just my own perspective.

    • @Oldcrow77
      @Oldcrow77 Před rokem +9

      You need not feel that way.
      You know what’s in your heart and head. Do not feel the need to legitimize your love of the music and all it represents. It’s great you want to submerge yourself in it though.
      Play the tapes, embrace the music. Be kind. Ain’t no time to hate.
      I find so many things that help guide my days in the lyrics.
      Don’t feel you need to compare your Dead experience to anyone else’s journey.
      “ There is a road, no simple highway
      Between the dawn and the dark of night
      And if you go, no one may follow
      That path is for your steps alone”

    • @namelia4439
      @namelia4439 Před rokem +1

      I actually understand what you’re saying…I felt that way at the very beginning and even for a few years after that. But at the end of the day, it’s just about the music and the joy and the freedom and the dancing and the good people there! If anyone says or does something that makes you feel the way you described, just wish them a lovely day and move on…you’ll find other people to hang and dance w that will just love that you’re there…and you’ll love them, too and all will be well, friend!!!!

    • @sirfizz6518
      @sirfizz6518 Před rokem +3

      I pretty much feel the same. Just looking at this comment section, it easily affirms the impression I've had for some time, that for Heads it's more than just being a fan on the general sense.
      I'm a lifelong musician who remains a stalwart for always respecting the greats. What the Dead did is absolutely staggering. For such a famous and successful band, the true scope of their impact is massively underrated at large. But I say that for dedicated musicians, at least those who can see the value of studying those who've paved the way, the Dead are none to sleep on.
      If we spend some time appreciating the breadth of their catalog, there's so much to learn from and connect with for anyone open to it.
      Dead Heads, however, have something more. If you really get into it with someone who lovingly calls themselves that, you'll surely encounter some profoundly sentimental stories about how vitally the Dead effected their life. For them there's such a deep, personal...dare I say intimate...connection these Heads feel with the band, they music, and the massive family that arose globally.
      Me, i don't have that sense, not in my own life. Sure some interesting stories, but nothing prophetic. I'm just a musician who loves and respects what that unlikely bunch of musicians created and left in their wake, and what we can all learn. Also I do love the tunes.
      So I'm a fan. Dead Heads are Dead Heads. In my experience they've never made feel excluded, in fact they were very welcoming. But it's about the deep personal thing. That's why i consider myself not a Dead Head... just a fan. A lover of the music and the people.

    • @sirfizz6518
      @sirfizz6518 Před rokem +1

      @@Oldcrow77 yoooo i read your comment after leaving mine and it's wild, i was very close to ending my comment with quoting the same lyrics.

    • @sambac2053
      @sambac2053 Před 5 měsíci

      I have a very different reflection for you. I’ve been listening to the band since the late sixties, I love the music , and respect their attitudes as artists- drawing from a broad spectrum of influences, being willing to take chances and experiment. , Being really predent in the moment Caring about good vibes and community. But as there started to be more and more heads who built their whole identities around the Dead, obsessining on endless trivial details, every setlist for every show. Never talking about anything else, never listening to other music - not even realizing the Dead played lot’s of songs by otjer artists they liked , etc etc etc, the whole thing got more and more watered down , more and more predictable . And since the band channeled the audience vibe, for the improvs, thosr got less and less adventurous . By the last phase in the 90s the band often seemed bored. I think the best thing to do is enjoy the music, forget all the superficial trappings, especially if they make you judge yourself That’s what the band was trying to do , make people forget their worries and enjoy the music , in the moment .

  • @ryanmattingly6292
    @ryanmattingly6292 Před rokem

    Toby, I've been following you when you started that stuff

  • @randolphhamtil9004
    @randolphhamtil9004 Před rokem

    Davvy, Right on Bro🎶🕊💚🥀😎

  • @dannydonnelly8345
    @dannydonnelly8345 Před rokem +1

    I'm 67, listening since I was 15. My favorite thing to see at a Dead show is kids and families.

  • @buckmanb
    @buckmanb Před rokem

    Best lesson ever!

  • @chrismattingly9393
    @chrismattingly9393 Před 6 měsíci

    The only real scene at a show happened between the time when the house lights went down prior to the first set until they came back up after the encore. Every other scene around that time was secondary and was either mild "icing on the cake", or some form of distraction.

  • @aaronbrooks7132
    @aaronbrooks7132 Před 2 měsíci

    Funny you show Vegas, that's where I found myself in the 90s. going through the motions.

  • @gratefulfred6766
    @gratefulfred6766 Před rokem

    The MUSIC!!! Loved every word. ⚡️♥️⚡️

    • @TobyDavvy
      @TobyDavvy  Před rokem +1

      Thanks, man! Love your stuff. You do great work.

  • @miraclesoundco8911
    @miraclesoundco8911 Před rokem

    Cool video.
    Reminds me of the phrase.....You can tell a Deadhead, but you can't tell them much!
    My "not Jerry" is John Zias, currently in the band Unlimited Devotion out of central Florida. A truly inspiring player!

  • @drewbonsall384
    @drewbonsall384 Před rokem

    The bus picked me up going be 36 years next month great run spectrum march 29,30,31i
    Loved tom on that woodstock video

  • @lucysmart1476
    @lucysmart1476 Před rokem

    I’ve grown up second generation dead head and having listened to this music for so much of my young life lol when I saw it was popular I immediately started to not like that. Learning not to hate keep is the most essential part of enjoying any artist or any music I feel and it goes for so many different genres and artists. The more people who enjoy the dead the longer the music sticks around. When it’s gone we’re all gonna be real sad.

  • @JAMN2GD
    @JAMN2GD Před rokem

    I do agree just let people enjoy what they want as all are different. PERIOD! To each their own.

  • @marcosluna7792
    @marcosluna7792 Před rokem +4

    Davvy is awesome. Great player, hilarious personality - wicked video editing.

  • @johnschneidhorst3406
    @johnschneidhorst3406 Před 8 měsíci

    Something miraculous happened in the 60s, which were ushered in by the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, which could have easily become the closest we ever got to Armageddon. Yet, in the same decade, humanity moved forward a step- averted a World War, largey due to a Counterculture, grounded mostly in San Francisco, and yes, fueled by Psychedelic Drugs. Garcia was a part of that, and knew what his life purpose was- to just continue it to his dying breath.

  • @johnschneidhorst3406
    @johnschneidhorst3406 Před 8 měsíci

    Some are obsessed with the Dead, but those same individuals helped turn me on to the Dead. No one liked more , "touch heads" showing up, because it also brought on more crowded shows, more violence, more backpack stealings, and more car break-ins..

  • @BST501
    @BST501 Před rokem +1

    I am 52 years old and I have been a Lover of the music and a Dead Head since 1983. I understand the division and dilemma but I don't even like talking about who's who and what's what. How many shows have you seen blah, blah, blah! I loved the Grateful Dead then and understand them and Love them even more now! Thank you Boys for the music and may it never fade away.

  • @jwright4686
    @jwright4686 Před rokem

    Great video, Davvy. I have been a 'Head since the late 80's and I have seen everything that you talked about. I remember one incident on just-off-Shakedown-Street when a guy said that I didn't play the right chord on a borrowed guitar for UJB. It was the right chord, just not the right inversion...
    The BEST thing about this video is that you, of a younger generation than I, are saying - mostly about perhaps your generation - let it go! let it slide! If only those of the same generations can expand that into all other areas! It seems like the point of everyone nowadays is to divide. It should be to accept. You think differently than I? OK! Let's coexist!

  • @reefpoelman862
    @reefpoelman862 Před rokem +1

    Will king Gizzard and the Lizard wizard be a new greatfuldead for us who don't feel like we belong?

  • @danielosullivan3110
    @danielosullivan3110 Před rokem +3

    The shit was all over when Brent passed!!❤️🥂🚬

    • @halColombo
      @halColombo Před rokem +1

      Youngbucks be like who's Brent 🤔

  • @tennesseejed884
    @tennesseejed884 Před rokem

    Nice philosophy brother

  • @btpatch
    @btpatch Před rokem

    Workin on Cassidy while listening to you Davvy... What is the view on people singing along at shows? I love singing along, but sometimes I know I gotta dial it back.... The sound of an arena or theater singing along makes me very happy...

    • @AnArchyRulzz
      @AnArchyRulzz Před rokem

      I would say singing along is fine, just don't be obnoxious about it, just my two cents

  • @robgushue6646
    @robgushue6646 Před rokem

    Preach my guy

  • @sugaree71
    @sugaree71 Před rokem +1

    Deadhead for more than 51 years. It has always been exclusively about the music for me and remains so. Guess I am OG ;)
    At last show in Chicago, days after presumed “touchheads” trashed Deer Creek, if I recall correctly. Saw only “the Dead,” Dark Star Orchestra as well as Dead and Company since. Had not even heard of John Mayer until after Fare Thee Well. Turned on my 28 year old, also a guitar player, at Wrigley last June. Music, especially Box of Rain, sustained me as I took care of my dad in his final year in this world. He was also a musician, who played the trumpet in 3 Seattle area bands during his retirement and was well on his way to the bus. My only regret: not being able to take him to a live show.
    Relevant anecdote: searched for a grief therapist after losing him in 2014. Found someone I clicked with until I discovered that he was only 32 at that time. Then I learned that he was a deadhead … and a guitar player. Trusted him as a result and never regretted it.
    The music will live forever!! Thanks for doing your part.💀⚡️🌹#NFA