JJ Redick & Stephen A. DISAGREE on Kevin Durant getting ENOUGH credit as a leader 🍿 | First Take
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, JJ Redick and Chris "Mad Dog" Russo discuss if Kevin Durant has not been given the credit he deserves as a leader.
0:00 Kevin Durant on not getting enough credit for being a leader
4:00 Mad Dog's take
6:00 JJ Redick on Kevin Duran'ts career
8:30 Stephen A. and JJ go head to head
11:00 Measuring results and inside the locker room talk
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“I don’t want ppl to call me a leader but I also don’t want them to say I’m not one”😭bro don’t kno what he want
Gotta hit him with that Westbrook meme. ‘What??!!… bro.. what you talking about?’ 😂
That's kind of par for the course with KD. He wants people to think he doesn't care but deep down the criticism eats at him.
@@jonathanandrade8045"man you niggas trippin" is more like it
He look good and high on that interview 😂😂
bro is a millionaire athlete works 9 hours a day on his craft..
how many hours do u put in to be great??? do u know what u want?
cuz a guy that puts in all those hours to be great at one thing..
i would assume he knows exactly what he wants...
U type what u wish..u a wishbone..
The way JJ hates to hear Mad Dog talk is hilarious
Coz he is just yapping in loud anger, idk how he is still working for ESPN. He would be a good fit for "First things First".
it’s not hilarious - Lame Mutt is annoying AF
@@Kedvin7 the irony
Mad dog plays his role and I love it. His radio show isn't bad either
@@Kedvin7 i thought he said he would retire if the Dbacks beat Philly. He's a jackoff
Stephen A out here looking like he just left the Death Row Records Source magazine cover shoot back in the mid 90’s…😂😂😂
He raided Suge Knight's closet 😂
SAS doing his best Nino New Jack City impression.
Lmfaooo 🤣🤣🤣
bruhhh you had me rolling with this comment
😂😂😂
When SAS tried to bring mad dog into the convo - the look on his face was like ‘I’m good just watching you guys bicker over nothing’ 😂
Doggy is the ultimate Instigator and he doesn’t have to even say a word😂
The guy just want to watches the world burned, a true maniac, lol.
his face kills me😂
Pause.
I love his smirk like he's up to no good 😂
Facts!! And it’s hilarious to me 😂😂😂. But I hate when he speaks, ngl
JJ back on first take for 2 days and is about to get max kellermaned. These are the 2 most intense days I’ve seen in a while, and I’m here for it 😂🍿
I have to agree. I'm kinda worried for him, ngl 😅
Lmao his face expresssions while SAS was speaking got me dying 😂
I swear yall only started riding for max kellerman as a way to diss stephen a, after max was fired from the show the ratings went up!!🤣
@@Priddyboiicrlsliterally nobody liked max. Especially when he was trolling Steph but now he’s a martyr lol
@@Priddyboiicrls I WANT IGUODALA! 😂
I hate mad dog 🤣🤣 “it’s not exactly 60 minutes “ had me rolling 😭😭
60 Minutes is neo liberal garbage truck juice nowadays, so it wasn't the zinger you and him tought it was.
Mad dog is hilariou, unless u take him serious lol
No lie cause mad dog funny asf sometimes 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah whatever but the fact he still has a job at ESPN and mark jackson and JVG do not is disgusting
lol that was dope lol 😅
JJ always throws the “I played in the league” card, without saying “I played in the league” 😂
only reason he has an audience.
So did Smush Parker. Who cares.
Cus he did it’s true nothing wrong with that
@@brettt141cos a hooper and a non-hooper have different bird views to the game. That's just it
Exactly and the thing is that he was trash if it was Kobe or bron or MJ speaking he would actually back that statement up but Jj lol cmon man
JJ speaks like he takes everything personal. LOL.
Facts😭😭😭 but fans would aay its sas rhats in his feeling, jj be ready to blow a gasket
He also comes across as very condescending. He debates as if he's scolding a bunch of kids and he's smarter than everyone else.
The fans let him ppl think stephen a is so much of a traitor that ppl feed jjs who when he does stuff like this that's why n it's annoying stephen a is right n jj doesn't want to be interrupted but loves to interrupt others like hold yo self accountable bro n listen for once Jesus
Literally his only point is "I play in the NBA and you didn't, so that makes my point right"
@@ByGriPhone factz like so wrong man he takes things too personal for no reason n hes contradicts himself that nobody sees about him get on doc about accountability but kd gets a pass if u not a player u get no pass with jj smh
He's LITERALLY SAID, "Im NOT a Leader"...leave me alone and let me "Just Hoop". What does he expect?.
You don't talk about his achievements, you do not talk about how all his former teammates seem to love him: you talk about one cherry picked quote. You haters are so pathetic.
@wenlisman huh?!? Nobody's hating they're responding to HIS quote about leadership. You can't have it both ways either. Either he cares about leadership or he doesn't. Whether people see him as one or not should be irrelevant to him. But it clearly isn't. He's always had rabbit ears. Choose a side care about it or don't.
@@rudolphsmith6770😭😭😭 these fan boys be delusional. Bro didnt say one thing bad about kd all he did was state what kd said himself 🤷🏾♂️
@@rudolphsmith6770 and facts no leader runs to the team that smacked you and make backup accounts to express how u feel about basketball 😭 kd not a leader and he was my favorite player. Kd defly that guy tho
@@wenlismanbro he led two teams and we saw how okc ended and ask russel what he thinks about kd 😂 🧁 Brooklyn was even worse they played better once he left if only he was a leader and brought them out before
SAS: “I am a black man”
JJ: “Don’t give me your track record”😂
What he never said that this is reaching
@@jayceleague279 nahhh he did lol
stephen a "i'm a black man"
JJ " you're barely brown"
lmao
@@DavidLee-vp3nr😂😂😂😂
Stephen a smith is a legend JJ was trash as a player so his opinion don’t matter more than Stephen a’s lol
lmao he didn't say that hahaha
"JJ Redick & Stephen A. disagree" is a instant click for me 😂
No, seriously I love when I come across a new one I haven’t seen 😂 not sure if they’re really passionate or if they dislike each other 😂
JJ watched that Katt Williams interview over 100 times bruh lol
😂😂😂😂😂
😭😭😭
Mad Dogs expressions while others argue is the best 💀
Michael scott with a riddler vibe
He look like the joker 😂😂😂😂😂😅😅 @maddog
Why ain’t nobody talking about Mad Dog looking like a villain 😈😂
😂😂😂
He can play joker in batman
MadDawg’s smirk is killing me😂😂
Mad dog just be sitting there smirking looking like Norman Osborn
Underrated comment
Mad Dog's smirk Is really the best part of the video hahahaha
JJ gets so angry when someone disagrees with him 😂😂
Ong
It’s his white man entitlement reeking out
Stephen A gets irritated when someone calls him on his BS
you mean JJ gets mad when someone is obviously wrong.
@BuuhBlocks Nah, he's too one-sided when it comes to players
I missed this…JJ and Stephen A going at it lmao. Too much brotherly love with Stephen A and Shannon we need the drama 😭
JJ is the complete opposite of Dan Orlovsky, Dan gets steamrolled by SAS and Shannon when it comes to football topics...JJ looks to roll over SAS whenever he can.
But not this segment
9 times outta 10 JJ gets rolled. He's pathetic at best. Nowhere on Stephen As level
Right but this one I think they both made plenty of sense and good points
probably because he's a student of the game as opposed to stephen a, who has an imeasurably long history of blantanly incorrect takes, lies, and personal attacks on players?
But he didn't here though
SA was right. Reddick should be president of the players association. He only sees things from there pov
Stephan a started the show off by complaining about what Durant does even tho he does the same stuff to get clicks lol 😂
JJ is right . The best player does not need to be the leader
@DontCallmeLadale maybe not but that don't mean kd should get the credit of a leader when he's not one n doesn't want to be one
Facts@@DontCallmeLadale
@@DontCallmeLadale Not true. As the best player when you win, you get all the credit. When you fail, the blame is always on you.
Why SAS dressed like he bout to do a death row album cover photo shoot 😆
Aint nothing but a gangsta party party. Awww sh****t
@@JizzleLizzle421 😂😂😂😂 I’m cryin
😂😂😂😂u stupid moe
Lmaooooooo😂😂😂😂😂😂
Probably cuz you copy & pasted the top comment
JJ is the only one who talks basketball with a realistic mindset
JJ was quick to call out Doc for no accountability, but won’t even try to hold KD accountable for his lack of leadership.
Fr he is so annoying
What proves that KD isn’t a leader because he isn’t vocal, because he hasn’t won as the “bus driver” how do any of us know that KD isn’t a leader if we ain’t in the locker room day in and day out
Well maybe you should hold Curry and Kawhi to the same accountability 😅. People pic and choose. Haters
Please tell me how he's not a leader
@@thubb326lmao who kd? The mfer is not a leader
A couple years ago on Brooklyn didn’t KD literally say he’s not a leader and just wants to ball?
YES, and then continued with Kyries narrative that they don’t need a coach they can coach the team themselves. Well which is it KD?
11:42 Props to the production team knowing the build-up was great and sliding Mad Dog in the screen. Mad Dog sitting there like "Ohh boy this is where all the fun begins now, this is entertainment right there!" LOL
JJ better start applying at FOX
lol he better call up MAX lol 😆
@@godssonraymond8877or skip 😂😂
JJ’s face when MadDog speaks is priceless. 😂
😂😂😂 Molly's trying to end the segment was priceless. 😅😅
I love JJ on ESPN he is blunt!
Y’all should really watch the whole KD interview instead of 1 sound bite. There was way more context to the conversation.
Na they rather criticize someone they don’t know. That’s envy at its finest
@@kingnovi9404you acting like they haven’t followed his whole career 😂
@@StrawhatKage they have and the started criticizing him the moment he stopped being who they wanted him to be. It’s funny because I never hear anyone say Tim Duncan wasn’t a leader although he has a personality similar to Durant. I’ve literally heard Stephen a praise another player for leading by example yet kd who has one of the greatest work ethic in sports history evident by his extremely high skill level is not a leader by example.
@@StrawhatKage notice how they never say things like he’s been a model Citizen never been in trouble great ambassador of the game. All that stuff they say about a curry or LeBron. It’s all negative criticism when it comes to kd.
@kingnovi9404 I believe people get confused. If you have that personality, players have to see you as the leader. Not to mention Tim duncun had Gregg pop and players that seen him that way. That's similar to steph not kd. KD cant be compared to steph and tim duncan, find someone else to make your point because its not valid. Honestly the coach is the leader. But when you play as the best player, for the same team (long time), people consider the team yours like the face of the team, they may see you that way and fall in line. Of course I'm only speaking to players with the personality as kd "lead by example" (Lebron is different). We keep confusing best player as leaders. There should be a distinction. I don't believe kawi has ever been a leader of the team. I actually see pg as the leader, not kawi (even though kawi's the best player literally leading them to victory). Hope I made since....
Steven A was cooking in this segment lmao
Only thing SAS cooked in this segment was some burnt toast
STEOHEN A. GOT COOOOOKED
@@charliec2966 there's no way you can convince me stephen a got cooked anyone not dumb deaf or blind can tell he cooked JJ this whole segment
@@aflyingmodemhe really did cook JJ
@@allcinionexplainsitall5869 nah he did not, he just has a louder voice
Mad Dog is just missing sipping a cup of tea in this scene.
SAS killed it at the end. Often JJ is on point in calling out bs. Which is important. And he called what he THOUGHT was bs this time as well. Which is good.
But SAS was totally correct. We judge what we see, and KD's leadership didn't reach the level of LeBron, Magic, or Curry. He COULDN'T galvanize his players like the top tier leaders could. Leading by example is important which KD does in terms of putting in work, but that's only one component of it. All the other great leaders spared no effort in their work. But they were able to galvanize their players on TOP of that.
KD doesn't get more respect as a leader because he hasn't EARNED that respect. As they say, respect is earned. We're not taking anything away from KD. But you need proof to ADD to someone's resume, and KD didn't provide that proof.
KD has no leadership whatsoever. I mean where do I start.
@@RobertBallz he doesn't have enough to be called a leader. He does have work ethic for sure which a leader needs. He has the skills and bball iq which a leader needs to command respect. But he doesn't have the charisma. The ability to command respect and obedience from his teammates. The ability to organize an offense and defense.
Stephen A danced around that question like Chris Brown in stomp the yard 😂😂😂😂
Stephen A spoke facts. You just hating
They both have a point that's why the debate is useless
Danced around what question? He address him directly.
JJ danced around how he brought up being in the locker room
"Oh JJ is on today?" The only time ESPN is Worth watching 😂
Maddog facial expressions is GOATED haha.
I love the back and forth and absolutely love JJ’s passion but I do think he gets a bit upset when there’s no need to be. Be passionate but still be cool
Wemby idolizes KD. He revolutionized the big man with guard like game. KD may not be an extrovert leader but he inspired guys like Wemby to play like he does now. That’s what leadership is all about. Being an inspiration
And Joel embed. And Luka. And ant-man. Kd was voted the favorite player by college b-ball players like 5 years in a row. Notice ever 7 footer wants to play like kd now days
they will never say that tho...u see how they disreegard all that info
Wimpymama is overrated AF - only casuals buy into the hype that sports media glazes him with
@@thuphuong6180u a girl fr?
So we changing the standard of leadership to lift up KD?😂
Max Kellerman haunting Stephen A. through JJ Redick (pause) is what we love to see😂😂
karma hurts 😆
SAS actually schooled JJ on this topic. Had him looking hella confused lol. Mad Dog was crackin me up without doing really anything at all 😂
Yeah first time I seen SAS get the better of him. Essentially cuz the argument bout journalism not ball.
When Sas tries to dress young he fails miserably 🤣 🤣
Simple- KD has always been a bus rider. He’s a hall of famer and is elite; however, never been the bus driver to carry his own team to a championship.
Mad dog @ 9:19 😂😂😂
Mad dog gives massive grinch vibes & I love it 😂
First Take be giving the heat. I'm loving it... 💯
Jj was apologizing for K.d Lack of leadership. Kd said himself when got to GOLDEN STATE " He just wants to hoop" so he joined team where he didn't have to lead. AND AT BROOKLYN it didn't work out, whole thing collapsed. Kyrie said they don't need coach, KD co-signed. Was a whole lot that showed lack of leadership especially joining team u lost to after being up 3-1. Leadership requires more than skills and making shots. KD STILL ONE OF ONE AND ELITE
I love how they just cut Molly off there at the end. 😂😭
They took that chance from Molly. 😅
I'm so sick of JJ acting like the authority on everything just because he was a mid player in the league.
He wasn’t mid but ok… he averaged 28 at duke average 17+ for years a 17 year career one of the best three point shooters you don’t know basketball
Just love the oh-please-don''t-mind-me vibe oozing out of Mad Dog 😂😂😂
Mad Dog's face 😂
Stephen A and JJ really had a very tense exchange that got personal.
JJ should stop questioning his colleague credential just because hes a former player and is "liked" more by current players. In his view, ANYTHING that players say is the ultimate truth and whoever DARE to question that or challenge their view is dumb and uneducated about the NBA because they never play it at a high level.
Thanks Magic Bot
@@tigera6if you haven’t played you have no say so Stephen a should stfu
@@tigera6he annoying asf 😂😂😂 Jerry West sent em to the gulag
He didn't question his credentials, he just asked questions . Is it kd job to educate steven a. The problem is they don't talk to players they don't like, they just create narratives
"Can I respond?" (SAS). Of course you can, it's your show"(JJ Redick). 😂😂😂
JJ and SAS going at it is absolutely great! 😂
KD shifted the balance of the NBA with every team he joined. Acknowledging that is giving credit.
I rarely agree with SAS, but I agree with SAS.
I mever seen Mad dog this entertained. His silence said alot lol. Great take
JJ Rolling his eyes while the old heads talked was awesome xD
Love JJ Reddick energy 💯
"Well, it was great having JJ on First Take. I wish him nothing but luck on his future endeavors." - Stephen A. Smith
Love these heated debates
This Trio is my favorite! Mad Dog has my dying laughing!!! And JJ face 😂💀
Thank you Mr Bus Rider for riding the bus.
Head and shoulders better than the person who keeps pushing that narrative😭😭😭
@@jacobluna1731
Feel free to make a point... or just emote...
Mr two time finals MVP. 🤷🏿
Kevin Durant > Charles Barkley
@@a.g.efitness1184 Iggy won FMVP
JJ Reddick, I like you but you talking nonesense!!!!! KD is friend so He is Biaised - He is not objective!!!! That's why he is not qualified to educate us about criticizing Basket ball players!! Steven A is qualified cause he is objective and roasted everyone! Noone is questioning Durant no being a Good Player!! He is but no Leader! Before he went to Golden State, they were winning and When he left the Golden States they Still WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A Leader doesn't go for what makes him happy. He prioritizes what makes his team happy, Durant is pursuing happiness at the expenses of his teammates? He's no leader! He's an amazing player though! Right now is the time for him to prove that he a leader. He's the experienced player on a young team... Lead them to victory and we'll open the debate of you being a leader! LEbron left the cavs, went to Miami, won titles, came back to the cavs, won a title the went to the Lakers, won a title... That's a Leader but not like the REAL LEADERS JORDAN (evemn tho I think LBJ > Jordan) and Curry who stayed on their Team to win titles!!!
Tired of this false labeling against KD
Who says star players have to be vocal leaders? shut up, and stop crying. Corny loser.
As soon as I read the Forst sentence in your comment I was digging around to see where you mention Curry. And sure enough, it’s there.
“Its not 60 minutes” 😂 i love Mad Dog
When JJ started talking his ish Stephen a Smith put that ear bud in real quick like...who da puck this new ninja taking too 😂🤣😭
It’s cause the sound went out a little but I love the drama between Stephen A and JJ 😂😂😂
The moment someone disagrees with JJ this guy starts yelling and goes to the fact that he played in the league his marriage must be miserable 😂😂😂
Facts dude would of been forgotten if it wasn’t for tv
Yall think Jj getting fired, I think this is a great conversation lmao. They both making excellent points.
This was a great segment. Not overly dramatic and great dialogue
That was a great discussion. I hope the respect is there between them all (JJ and SAS in particular) because I'd like to see other interesting subjects get thrashed out between them.
That was an incredibly solid debate
Ayoooo JJ be Wylin made hella sense … but he deff came crazy at SAS 🤣🤣 he looked like he wanted to fight
JJ looking thrilled to be on the show
Stephen a is right, jj would defend a player no matter what they did
That just isn't true. He didn't defend Zion. JJ tells it how it is on a lot of players. Zion went to Duke and was a teammate for a short time. So, it should have been harder to be so strict on him.
JJ does take the player side a majority of the time but as a former player, their mindsets are more similar than the mindset of a pure media member like Mad Dog or Steven A.
KD sounds so confused as to what he wants. 😂
Luv those 5’s Kev!!!👏🔥💯🎯
Both great arguments, this was a good one.
Mad Dog's take is built for radio and a little old school but I love it.
Perfect example to reply a crazy argument “let’s address the question”
Stephen A And Mad Dog Are Right💯
I love the debate!! Fire it up boys!!
JJ is too aggressive in conversation and completely disrespects Mad Dog. This is similar to how Richard Sherman is towards Skip. Maybe some group therapy for Sherm and JJ is in order.
Editing on point cutting out Molly at the end 😂
The way Mad Dog purses his lips before he is allowed to outshout Stephen A tells me his words are actually, physically trying to push themselves out of his mouth, and he is holding on for dear life, keeping them in until its time. 😂
Great segment
JJ the Protector 😂 You can guarantee he has the players’ back
Great episode but its another episode ending at the wrong time 😢
Sas speaking facts we love Jj energy and won’t back down entertaining
JJ will be joining Max Kellerman very soon😂😂
Maddogs face the whole time SA and JJ were talking😂
It would be nice for ESPN to pick up some NBA analysis show pregame. Taking the time to go over what teams have been doing.
Finally, the first take I love!
I love JJ & Stephen A. It's a great mix!!!
This is an example of two intelligent dudes getting to the business...i respect the dialogue
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SAS's face 😂😂😂
I love how ESPN cut JJ’s mic at 8:42 lmao
Great dialogue fellas
JJ - keep doing your thing. It’s great for sports to get player perspectives and I know JJ brings a lot of great stuff to this show.
Just when I thought there would be a lull in sports due to NFL ending, JJ was a giving people something to talk about!