10 Most Competent Rebels Officers
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- čas přidán 1. 09. 2022
- We take a look at some of the most important commanders that served in the Rebel Alliance.
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Wedge Antilles: the only starfighter pilot in the galaxy with two Death Stars painted on the side of his X-Wing. 😄
Lucky guy
Wedge Antilles is THE best X-Wing pilot ever. Hands down. Sorry, Luke.
@@wylde007 yea luke relies on the force
wedge relies on pure skill
Oh, I'm not saying Luke can't fly. And the force does amplify his natural abilities (remember what Obi-Wan said about Anakin, before the prequels ruined the mythos) but Wedge Antilles. That's all. Wedge. Antilles.
And I really think it would have been somewhat of a nice easter egg to have Poe Dameron (who is nowhere near the pilot Wedge Antilles is) be the offspring of Biggs Darklighter or something. If you wanted a backstory for a sequels character, that's where it should have been rooted. A real lost opportunity if you ask me.
The Mouse botched Star Wars in ways that even Lucas could never have imagined.
Po is a great pilot in his own right he actually was trained by Wedge after the death stars were destroyed
Also Luke destroyed the first one
Wedge destroyed the 2nd one
“What Id give for a flamethrower” was probably the greatest unintentional roast of all time, considering Vader’s history with fire and burns.
Roast. Haha
Rebels after few Vader encounters have developed entire anti-Vader -protocol which included copious use of flamers and explosives
@@ewok40k And sand
Lol
@@ewok40k so it didn't work?
Wedge Antilles: (Blows up the second death star killing millions stationed on it) Gimli :"That still only counts as one."
i still laugh at that meme when i see it
I think commander Satos death hit me the most because he was ready to sacrifice himself for the rebellion and also the two pilots who stayed with him also deserve the recognition because I felt that scene really shows the idea that these are people and they are willing to do anything for the cause
Good leadership in war inspires excellent soldiers.
I like the call those two specifically opti and mega (Optimus prime and megatron) two brothers who joined the rebellion while wanting to do something greater together
Admiral Ackbar was also the most dangerous of them all as he was the only one to give Grand Admiral Thrawn pause. He was the only commander in the entire New Republic that even remotely concerned Thrawn so that alone speaks volumes.
When do we learn this?
Edit: or where?
Thrawn book series: he tried to politically remove akbar
@@gmailquinn oh I guess I missed that part, I read all 3 and the ascendancy series as well but dont recall ackbar
@@chad_the_chief9759 yep. That part indeed is there
If Thrawn considered Ackbar of all beings to be his chief rival an perhaps only possible superior gotta know he's ALSO keeping a close eye on anyone in command associated with him just in case. As is typical for those of Thrawn's type. It's the only way he could be sure the giant Admiral Shrimp is the ONLY other being at his level. An probably would require battle to beat him is my guess if he worries the Chiss so much
Wedge is just a character you have to love. He's so unassuming but so damn reliable. He's basically the Samwise Gangee of Starwars, there at the beginning, there at the end and all the places between. The bedrock to be relied on.
Apparently you didn't hear about General Calrissian and his little maneuver at the Battle of Teneb.
You're damn right!
That was actually Tag Greenley, he let Calrissian take credit so he'd be able to escape the wrath of Tag's sister for ditching a date.
*Taanab
@@kirillzakharov7336 Also Lando was primary in the destruction of the 2nd Death Star.
@@alancarey9098 That and keeping the Rebel Fleet alive; his suggestion to push the fleet into the Imperial Fleet negated the ability of the Death Star to freely target them.
Also should be mentioned that during the New Jedi Order books, Wedge was one of the pilots who helped train Han and Leia's daughter Jaina as a fighter pilot, and that apparently despite her being a natural talent in a fighter, one of the best pilots the New Republic had, AND having the Force to back her up, she had fought Wedge in simulations and mock battles and lost every single time.
Dang that's a pilot to be reckoned with
I could see Han and Leia laughing as she failed every time to beat wedge
Leia: well you almost won that time
Han: seriously you can't beat an old pilot from the war with the empire?
Leia: well he was trained by the imperial academy and later General Hera Syndulla
Han: oh yeah forgot about that
Wedge Antilles: the Peter “Maverick” Mitchell of space.
@@SamaritanPrime Except without all the emotional hang ups.
Well, Legends says the force gets used as a sort of precognition in fights, which is why Jedi and Sith are so fast. Imagine playing chess against the world champ when you know what his next move will be for certain; sure, you can do better, but once he knows that you know, he can set traps for that. Same concept here but in flying.
He also effectively did the same with the Force-user Corran Horn, but since Horn was the protagonist of the series, Stackpole wrote the scene as a draw.
Gotta love the attention to detail with rebels when Hera is talking to her father, her accent changes back to her original accent. Kinda like when my wife gets mad the Salvadoran accent comes out 😂😂
Ackbar could detect traps but only after being hooked and reeled in by keen fishermen
And when he’s in the bucket
Gen. Crix Madine? Gen. Lando Calrissian? As a kid in the 80's, Lando becoming a General meant a lot to me. Didn't see that a lot.
"RoGuE SqUAdROn wHeEre's oUR CoVEr?!"
Jeez, Crix, I gotta tell ya....I just don't care....
In legends, Wedge turned down several promotions. The only reason he accepted the promotion to general was because he was told his own officers were turning down their promotions because they saw it as a tradition. He was told 'Rogue squadron should be more than a collection of flight officers and lieutenants'. The response he gave after he accepted was basically 'when did you figure out that using my own people against me was the only way to get me to accept a promotion?' As General Antilles, he stayed in the cockpit for a while but eventually became captain of the super star destroyer Lusankya after it was repaired from the damage done to it during the battle for thyferra.
Nice to see Antoc Merrick getting some love. I hope he appears in Andor.
Lando Calrissian. If it hadn't been for him the Rebel fleet would have been, if not completely wiped out, then at least seriously denuded by the time the shield went down. Plus, he was the first to realise the deflector shield was still up, which saved all but three rebel fighters.
He also argued against Ackbar's gut reaction to flee when the MC80 got vaporized.
Not many Rebel leaders amaze me but Micha Evon "Howl" was quite a man. Rumoured to be a teacher before the war, he was the leader of the 61st Mobile Infantry aka the Twilight Company. He kept together his small unit through a lot of hardships and was known for having unique ideas. And was a solid moral compass to a rebel unit that had to make their due under great stress, minimal supplies and terrible conditions.
That is such a cool book
yes he even inspired them well past his death as they followed his example well after he died.
Wedge is probably my favourite member of the rebel alliance, he doesn’t need plot armour , just skill
Mine too. He’s the only person to survive two Death Star raids. He’s just that good. Part of the reason I love x wing book series
He created his own plot armor; he was to popular that by RotJ to be be killed. Can you imagine the hatred Disney would get if they had killed Wedge in Rise of Skywalker? The sequel hatred would easily be 100 times worse.
The maverick of the star wars world 👀
he has been one of my favourites for years now
the only reason i rewatched the rise of skywalker was is return on the millennium falcon
he was better than luke in my opinion as he took out an atat two deathstars and then later the battle of exogol surviving with skill not the force
And when the empire saw him coming the best way to survive him was to run away if there were 4 TIEs he'd get 3
I wonder what the 10 incompetent officers of the Rebel Alliance were? Same for the Republic and Separatists during the Clone Wars as well as the competent officers too.
I think that in the case of the Rebel Alliance, instead of incompetent one could speak of short-lived. In the case of the rebels, there wasn't much chance of failing a mission and getting out alive.
1. Sarkli
So bad, he turned traitor
#1 Admiral Holdo. Don’t need much explaining on that one
Saw Gerrera. I know that might be controversial given that he is on this competency list, but hear me out. Saw was charismatic, which won people to his cause, but his grasp of strategy was basically just attack the nearest Imperial target regardless of its importance or collateral damage, which ended up costing him troops and social capital. Because of this, people who might have otherwise been sympathetic to the Rebellion saw it as little more than a terrorist organization. He's a great example of how someone can be moderately successful, skillful in combat, but still be incompetent as a strategist or long-term planner.
I would actually put Luke as not being a particularly good Rebel officer. Accomplished pilot, sure, but canon Luke makes some very questionable decisions that almost get him killed.
Skilled fighters and pilots don’t necessarily make good commanding officers. To be both is a rare gift.
Poe "not the best starfighter pilot in the galaxy" Dameron comes to mind in the first category. Wedge "That Poe nobody is not fit to shine my boots" Antilles is a shining example of the latter
Wedge's story in Legends is absolutely crazy. He had 46 years of constant battle and never lost his X Wing.
Crix Madine is one you missed. Those soldiers Han led on Endor? Trained by Madine. Rahm Kota is another. He led a militia force that caused havok, and led Rebel Forces during the Battle of Kamino.
Rahm unfortunately doesn't count since it's not canon.
@@jacobrobinson787
HE IS REAL TO ME!
Also captain Rex was there on endor as well
@@jacobrobinson787
Who cares lol EU canon is superior anyway
@@stephen8805 it was of varying quality, but it should still count.
Akbar's wholesome smile as the Executor falls into the Death Star is fantastic
I’d love a show on the partisans or the cloud riders to see their campaigns
💯💯💯
I’d love to see it as well, at least we have rebel rising to see a bit of Saw and his partisans
Han got even more impressive in Legends - he ended up in command of the New Republic task force assigned to hunt down the Imperial warlord Zsinj - in the process of which his forces destroyed not one but TWO Executor-class Super Star Destroyers - Razor's Kiss and Iron Fist.
All the respect to Wedge, one of the best pilots and well respected in my eyes, he deserves more.
If only Blue Squadron survived; the Death Star would have been destroyed much faster.
... no
@@TJDious why not? there would be an entire other squadron of experienced pilots, which could have allowed for better tactics and a speedier victory.
If only Blue Screens weren't an issue back in the 70s. :P
@@minicle426 I remember reading about that. Red squadron was originally Blue squadron behind the scenes but the blue stripe caused the issue mentioned above.
@@MrShop-fg2on You could have any amount of pilots and they still wouldn't have been able to win without Luke. All it would do is just get more lives lost.
Wedge Antilles: bust me back down to captain, I can't leave the cockpit, it's where I belong.
Anton mereck: I'm a general!
One quick correction: Hera was promoted to general _before_ the battle of Scarif (we can hear her being called by that title over the intercom at the Yavin 4 base prior to the battle)
Chaddus Antilles truly legendary.
Um….Draven was the guy insistent on killing Galen Erso despite the fact it wouldn’t do anything to the Death Star, could probably give some insight into its downfall, and was told he was not willfully on the Empire’s side. It’s kinda clear he was the one Holding the Idiot Ball in that film; or at least playing hot potato with it.
Wedge was such a great pilot and i loved his character throughout the xwing book series
Thank you for talking about Hera; she’s one of my favorite characters! 💚
3:11 who is this former Imperial cadet Wedge Antilles? He shares name with the REAL ace of aces Wedge Antilles, survivor of the Gus Treta refuelling station incident.
One of the greatest travesties of Rise of Skywalker is having the best starfighter pilot in the galaxy (Poe who?) riding shotgun in a turret, and not in a X- Wing
I still don't know why they did that. It would have been so much cooler to see Wedge leading the squadrons in a T-70.
@@VALI4NTY0UTH Honestly would have been cool to see wedge in his old T-65…maybe even in the old rebel alliance muted red and cream white color scheme
@@stuglife5514 Yeah but it would ruin the charm of Rey flying Red 5.
Yo, been here for two years. You still deliver as expected with your content.
"One confirmed kill of Wedge Antilles was the death star."
Gimli: "That still counts as one."
For Wedge, u forgot about his forming and leading both Wraith and Rogue Squadron
Yes and was a vital part of liberating coruscant, capturing the production hub of all bacta, bringing at least two major warlords to justice as a pilot and probably accomplished a lot more even after becoming a general. But it’s too bad because none of that’s canon.
If memory serves, Luke formed Rogue squadron, but designated Wedge as his successor when he went off to do the jedi thing.
@@calebs6872 in my mind it is cannon, he took down Zinj and Issard. I think he was also there for the battle of Billbringi
@@steffanyschwartz7801 I’ve only read the x-wing series, IJedi, tales of the empire, halve of young Jedi knights, tales of bounty hunters, and crucible. So I only talked on what I’ve read.
@@calebs6872 it includes KOTOR, KOTOR 2, and 2003 clone wars. Far better than what Disney has put out
Wedge is in my mind the "MAVERICK" of the star wars galaxy. Been in the game since before Scarif, Hundreds of kills to his credit, An incredible amount of experience to teach with, And couldn't get nor want of a promotion that would get him placed out of the cockpit and flying an admin desk. A true pilot's, pilot.
Imagine what Hera could have done with a Venator
16:30 only seconds of screen time here, what we can read:
- a senior officer, listening to a field officer and visa versa. You need this for both planning and making certain that everybody knows there part of the plan
- both focused on the task at hand, dealing with the enemy
- they are professionals and not each others enemy on board the same ship
- they inspire confidence in each other and thereby in the many serving them
Star Wars sequels have nothing of this, the senior staf looks like a bunch of spoiled brads in there dad's sports car.
Maybe, but Holdo had good reason to dislike Poe Dameron. In the beginning of the film, he disobeyed orders and led the entirety of the resistance's heavy bomber corps to their death for an objective that was not strategic in any way. Those people were Holdo's personal command before and she is the kind of commander that cares deeply for her men.
@@carlost856 wrong
1. Holdo as supreme comander should be above personal emotions. It is the burdon of command to loose people under you.
2. No favoritisme alowed from a high officer, this ain't field command.
3. Sacrificing bad designed plot-bombers for a dreathnaught's destruction is a great trade, unless it was your capital ship.
4. She is a narcicist that cares for Holdo...
Summary, only woke writers with zero insight in how militart actualy works could put her in the seat of command.
In the end, she can personaly dislike him, but she cannot deny his ability to get the job done inspite of the sacrefices needed to be made. And that demotion was just salty, the judgement of a 5 year old that droped it's ice cream and needed to put the blame on someone else.
@@hendrikmoons8218 She was only supreme commander because everyone died, before that, she was only bomber commander, small command, small crew. That Dreadnought trade absolutely wasn't worth it, it only was a threat to the now empty base and it wasn't the only resource the first order had. Regardless, that wasn't Poe's decision to make.
Still so cool that the actor who played Wedge is Ewan McGregor's uncle on his mother's side of the family. What were the odds really
In legends, wedge antilles name for a Twi´lek word, describing Star warriors.
I forget who it was but I recall the leader of Twilight company being very well respected.
5:18 "Well let me tell you something. Don't! Don't let them promote you. Don't let them transfer you. Don't let them do *anything* that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there... you can make a difference."
- Captain James Tiberius Kirk
The idea of refusing a promotion to stay on the field sounds good and all. But the reality is, there comes a point where you can do a lot more good with your skills higher up then just leading a squad.
Just love when Hera falls into her native accent. That accent is totally how she got into Kanan's pants.
Ze Twi'Leki faux Francais' Accent you mean ?
Someone knew what they were doing when they gave one of the most attractive species in the galaxy French accents. :P
@@minicle426 . The Murderous Togruta should have had that Lilting Irish accent .
Sounds sincere , friendly and Sexy AF , as they cut your heart out . And Eat it .
Great pieces for each leader, thanks. I was thinking Bail was an important leader for his work in single-handedly forming the Rebel Alliance, and educating Leia, whom I believe is the most important leader of the Alkiance, and probably the best leader ever in galactic history.
Saw Guerrera is an interresting entry cuz he was surely a competent leader able to win battles and survive...but he was also narrowminded wich could sometimes make him look like a liability to the rebellion.
you could also put Saw as one of the most incompetent but not from a combat perspective but from the fact that he caused severe damage to other movements and provided easy justification for imperial retaliation. Good solder, Decent tactician, Not a good influencer.
As of the Aftermath books (pre the Force Awakens) Wedge DID accept a promotion
and in Legends, as of the book Isard's Revenge when Admiral Ackbar pointed out that his refusing promotions was keeping his pilots from accepting promotions to positions where their skills could be best used
Going through this whole series and I would love to see more. Thanks for the great videos Adam!
I always wondered why starfighters never had ejection seats when in atmosphere.
X-wings and tie fighters do, they just rarely ever fight in atmosphere so the pilots probably train never using them
@@brockgundich I don't think they train much for ejector seats while flying as is. Ignoring that most fights ive seen in atmosphere have been cas operations and there probably isn't enough height for parachuting.
they have ejection seats, at least according to X-wing and Tie-Fighter game series. Though probably more optimised for space ops than atmospheric flight... in-movie we dont seem to ever see one in action, "for the drama"
Antoc merrick went out with a smile and a trail of glory.
Love your channel man, some of my favorite Star Wars videos for sure.
I want to say you always do a great job. Keep up the good work
Great video! Now we need a part 2 with Rex.
Fantastic information! Greatly appreciate it!
“Wedge Antilles is, in my opinion, one of the most underrated rebel heroes.” Welp, you earned a like for that alone.
Well there is Mon Moffma, she did a lot of work behind the scenes. I think she even formed the group that went to get the second deathstar plans
She is no officer she is a politician.
@@Pausi10_00 and many people dislike pacifists because they contradictory to what star wars was
I heard she was actually a GRAND Moffma. Not to be confused with the leader of the Rebel Kaiju Alliance, Mon Mothra.
@@station7thedoor 💀💀💀
I always was a wedge fan, appreciate the appreciation
Great show... I'm almost up to date... TY.
There definitely needs to be a part 2
I think commander Skywalker was so underrated he along with general rieken and major Bren the ground forces were able to pull of a successful defense while high command was evacuated
Sorry AL. When you said Luke swinging his sword with his father I couldn't stop laughing 😉🤣🤣
Ackbar did not only just lead the rebel fleet. He basically built it. He essentially wrote the fleet doctrine for the rebel alliance, created training programs for the fleet and was the chief architect of the fleets entire organizational structure. He managed to take the alliances hodge-podge of ships and formed them into a coherent battle force that could go toe to toe with Imperial formations.
While I do love Ackbar, the credit for all of that belongs to Ackbar’s predecessor: Admiral Raddus. Raddus was the leader of the Alliance Navy and established the core of alliance naval doctrine from their early beginnings. Ackbar replaced Raddus as leader of the Alliance Fleet after Raddus’ death at Scarif, and was responsible for many amazing feats of his own, but the title of “father of the alliance navy” definitely has to go to Raddus.
Yeah…. One thing never made sense to me with “Rogue 1”. The planetary shield was knocked out. Any surviving pilots could have escaped Scariff.
Alan your data on combat flight hours is inaccurate. The last Rag squadron I was assigned to the instructors were over 3k hours in their frame alone. That is not counting flight time in other frames. By the time a typical Naval Aviator has gone to phase three it is not uncommon for them to be over a thousand hours and still considered a trainee.
Yeah some did try to escape but at that time the Death Star and Darth Vader both arrived essentially and almost wiped out the entire Rebel fleet.
It never actually was destroyed. The gate didn't actually power the sheild it simply offered a way to acces the surface without dropping the whole sheild and their was a surface station that powered the actual sheild. When the star gate was destroyed it produced more of a ripple but if it was actually the generator the sheild would have disputed instantly. Also you can still see the sheild when the Death star shows up
@@toptiergaming6900 after the DS1 fired a low tier blast don’t tell me that shield was not down.
@@mikewaterfield3599 when that happened the planet shield coulda been at OVERCHARGE an it STILL probably wouldn't have mattered. Something designed to one shot entire planets an make them violently explode at full strength and totally devestate the local area an totally nuke the target at low then a planetary shield won't even have an noticable attempt at slowing it down
@@robertagu5533 that was kinda my point, with the proton shielding down any surviving craft could escape
Wedge Antilles: the only pilot with a kill count so large it has to be counted by squadrons rather than individual kills on his fighter.
Wait… Wedge only gets 1 kill for the Death Star? Who decided that? Gimli?
Kills are count by craft not crew. You don’t get multiple kills for shooting down a transport.
0:04 Alan sounding like the raptor in Grant's dream in JP3
Great video keep it up
Davits Draven didn't recruit Andor, that was Luthen who did that. But I guess this video came out before the new series Andor.
It is pretty cool that the rebellion is so small and so highly dedicated that they attract such high functioning minds, such that pilots can and have to be generals. Since there just aren’t enough highly trained pilots in the rebellion.
The photo of Wedge Antilles from the briefing room at the battle of Yavin was actually "Fake Wedge".
What if the tie defender’s replaced tie fighters
Rebels would have been screwed.
Wow Merrick had more character development then rey had
Dude the blue elephant musician in Jabba's palace has more character development than Rey.
Everyone has more character development than Mary Sue Rey.
@@MataNuiXIII marey sue
Lando really took my boy Wedge - *one of the greatest pilots the galaxy had ever seen* - and made him a turret gunner on the Falcon...
4:55 "That still only counts as one!"
Ok gimli
I’d like to see a video detailing as much background info as possible about the rebel pilots in the Battle of Yavin. Too me, something about those guys strike me as some of the most efficient and compact character development of all time. They all feel like real characters, none of them feel like extras, even though they have such small parts.
Another slighted officer (besides Lando), Luke was instrumental in rescuing Leia, recruiting Han, destroying the First Death Star, commanding Rogue Squadron before Wedge, neutralize both Vader and Palpatine (against the advice of Kenobi and Yoda, among others), plus all the other exploits described in the Legends continuity. Pretty good resumé, if you ask me.
The thing I feel as notable with Wedge Antilles is the Doylist detail of Dennis Lawson coming back in the sequel trilogy.
In the eu wedge also appears in the aftermath books, being tutor of sorts to tenin "snap" wexley
If you take the X-Wing novel series as canon, Admiral Ackbar did eventually talk Wedge Antilles into accepting a promotion to General. In the final book in the series, Wedge's command ship was an Imperial super star destroyer, reflagged in the New Republic fleet. He was also personally responsible for the mission to liberate Corsuscant among others
In the Heir To The Empire novels, Wedge is also very important and you get to know him a bit more than just the few seconds of screen time he has in the movies.
Wedge Antilles sounds like the Maverick of the rebel forces.
Wdge entilys Also helped to steal a star destroyer. That was pretty cool.
Luke being a weapon and Leia being the commander is very much in line with how Star Wars Legion made their models.
And to think that Hera did all those things while also being a mother as well. My mother could barely handle me and my siblings so I can't imagine what would happen if my mother was then put in charge of important things going on in a rebellion while she was also rising kids
Allen is getting more and more chaotic with every video
Can’t forget about wedges command of the lusankia in legends during the dark empire event
Wedge Antilles is the Maverick of the Star Wars universe. I will not be told otherwise
I see it
Could u guys a vid about the incompetent and competent jedi generals
Minor nitpick but the guy who says “that’s impossible, even for a computer isn’t Wedge” and is credited as John D in the first SW film
I love how they managed to make Ackbar smile when the Executor goes down.
Wedge is the “Maverick” of Star Wars.
He feels the need.. The need for lightspeed 😉
Well I would add few more there, for example Ezra was promoted to General. He was instrumental for destroying Trawn's fleet and outsmarted him, even though we all know how capable Trawn was and if Bridger didn't defeat him and pulled him out in the unknown regions, I don't think that Rebel alliance would even exist when death star was destroyed - basically if Ezra didn't do what he did, we all know what came after but if he didn't saved Rebel alliance at Lothal + TIE defenders would change everything I can bet that rarely anyone thinks about that. Just imagine if imperials managed to mass produce TIE Defenders what would happen?
TIE with shields, hyperdrive and superb weapons and maneuver capabilities, that move only saved a lot and made empire vulnerable.
Idea for a video! Why no ejection seats? merrick could've survived if he'd ejected!
I see Rebels from Rogue One and they're immediately my favs. Huge Raddus stan!
Never forget Rex was on endor too!
Hera is the one of the best generals of the rebellion, and I would always be loyal if I’m with her squad.
Who had the better pilots, The Republic Clone Pilots or The Empires Tie Fighter Pilots
in my humble opinion I would say the Empires entire collection of pilots.
0:06 The dolphins got him
Wedge Antilles was the Star Wars equivalent of Maverick from Top Gun