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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
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They want equal rights without equal responsibility. That's not equality. That's privilege.
Can't agreed with you more😂
2 replies and 0 shown. Nice shadowbanning.. KGB style.
Spitting facts mate
That's what it's always been about. When you are privileged and given equality it looks like oppression.
I believe that women should be drafted but also we should get rid of the draft.
If a woman has the opinion that know women should not be drafted but there should not be a draft to begin with, You have an issue with that?
Schrödinger's feminism: a woman is simultaneously a victim and empowered, until something happens. Then she chooses which state benefits her the most.
stay a poet, sir
he spittin
The boys In the lab are working real hard to harness this energy. They have to be really carful though, it’s unstable!
Just like I do Schrodinger's homework.😂
I forget my notebook at home, so I've both completed and not completed my homework unless I bring the notebook to the school.😂
@@Brukner841he didn’t come up with that
I remember watching a video, where a woman argued that women are the most affected by war.
Even though men literally die in war.
Yeah dude but women feel more affected because they just feel more in general.
Hillary Clinton made the exact same argument as well
@@charlesabju907 they feel more affected because they are the ones still alive to feel. heh
@@charlesabju907 Well you're not wrong. Women certainly do feel more affected because men who die can't feel anything anymore!
@@charlesabju907they are overgrown emotional children.
These people dont think they're stupid. They think they're super smart and know everything about everything enough to have a take on EVERY SINGLE TOPIC and think they're right and refuse to be wrong.
"bad drivers don't miss their exit"
They will do the wrong thing and think they did the right thing.
Dude I had a not male Mexican restaurant owner and they refused to believe that the check they sent through snail mail the day before hadn’t arrived to the beer company and they were claiming that I was discriminating against 👩 and this and that. Took the beer back. I think they ended up calling the company and with a begrudged look, handed my money order and I gave them their stuff. (Writing like that because of CZcams censorship.) no apology nothing. I didn’t say anything because it wasn’t worth the headache.
Eeeh I don’t know about that. One of those women at the least were kinda iffy and agreeing with the women being drafted thing because they supposed that made the most sense, with an obvious air of uncertainty in their voice.
I’m anti-feminist of course, but I at least can watch the video.
“I yearn for true gender equality. I have no patience for one who talks about female privilege when it suits them, and then complains about someone not being a man when it's convenient.”
-Satou Kazuma
Kazuma steal
@@ClubPenguinDead"KAZUMA, KAZUMA!"
"Kazuma deeeeeeeeees"
God i love this show so much.
The true advocate of gender equality
@@ClubPenguinDead Kazuma snipe
My girlfriends dad is a firefigther with easily 30 years of experience under his belt, he told me it's an open secret that fire departments are subjected to "diverse" hiring same as everywhere else and that he's extremely tired of having to train up female firefighters who not only can't perform at the job to the minimal physical level but are actually just afraid to do the job
I love that tv show The Rookie with the female firefighter who is half nathan fillions size.
Well he is a big liar then my mum is a firefighter and put more work into stuff then the most of the men shes working with.
@@sonicartzldesignerclan5763 does your mum work with her dad? No? Then you can both be right, his statement does not generalize women being bad firefighters, it only states that women unfit for the job are hired for diversity quotas, that doesn't mean there are no women fit for the job.
Also, your mum putting more effort doesn't mean she'll be more effective, it's impressive for a woman to be a good firefighter, given it takes more work for a woman to reach the minimum level of physical fitness necessary to do it.
@@sonicartzldesignerclan5763 You are exactly the kind of person Asmon was talking about in this video.
@@sonicartzldesignerclan5763not everything has to be a competition, especially emergency services like firefighting, your mom dorsn't need to be better then her peers to be cool, nor does someone need to be cool to have a good life.
Your mom's work has a positive impact on people's life, and if she's happy with her life then there's no need for anything more, no need to talk her up and certainly no need to talk others down
Buffet feminism. Pick and choose what they want to demand equality for while ignoring the things that they clearly benefit from.
“…They might give you the clown makeup, but you’re the one putting it on.” 🤣🤣🤣
I worked in a warehouse ones and I got paid more than most of the female staff that worked there.
They figured out that I got more than them, so they had a makeshift protest demanding that they get the same pay as me.
The manager asked them if they were sure if they wanted that and all of me said YES OFC!
So, the manager let every single one of them do one day of my shift and let's say it didn't end well.
What the women hadn't seen was, that I did MOST of the physical parts of their jobs as well, like carrying heavy things (like these damn 65pound rubber mats the we sold) and
emptying 30 ton containers full of these mats by hand twice per week.
The look on their faces was priceless, when they realized that they had to basically do two jobs at the same time in the warehouse to get those amazing 2 bugs more in an hour.
So, the moral of the story is: don't assume that you are worth the same to an employer just because you have the same job title. You don't know what value the person offers to the company besides the normal job description.
It´s more often than not a question about what value you bring and not what gender you may identify with.
I am German btw sooo :D
bro you are getting discriminated to do more because of your gender then...
@@manumaster1990 no shit 😂
o/
The unseen side of this argument we never hear about.
@@manumaster1990he’s getting payed more than others & he’s doing it with out feeling the need to victimize himself. You could learn from his example.
Bill Burr said it , you don’t want equal rights … you just wanna cherry pick the good bits .
What are these "good bits" exactly?
@@flufychickenshigher paying jobs
100% they just want the good stuff.
Some of them do want equal rights. There are women on the show arguing for both men and women to be subject to the draft or for the abolishment of the draft altogether. Some have a hard time answering politically charged questions that they probably haven't thought much about. There are feminists who are hypocritical and want to cherry pick for their own gain, but the exact same could be the said for anti feminists.
@@flufychickens When it comes to men, basically everything you can mask under "being gentleman", like paying for her meal on a date, holding open the door, driving her around, making her gifts.
I'm female, and yesterday I watched as several men who work construction had to park far from the site and walk across the bridge in their full gear to get to it, hot as can be outside. I said a prayer of thanks for them and all men who do these tough jobs. I could not imagine myself or most women being willing to do that. Women also do hard tasks of a different kind. But we can't take away from men who work hard. We all need each other is the bottom line. God knew what he was doing when he created both male and female.
Appreciate that you can recognize that
Well said 👍
Your tasks is what a child can do . Leave the men to run it
I think you meant "raising a child"
Breadmaker+Homemaker is unbeatable.
@@Cov930 I don't think a child can give birth...
Just last weekend has a conversation about something like this. A friend is an officer in the army and they played a little prank on a younger guy by taking his phone and expanding his tinder settings. He got a hit on a middle-aged woman. After some pressuring he went on a date, but it didn't lead to anything, other than him being a little awkward afterwards. Now, imagine a superior officer pressured a younger female subordinate to go on a date with a middle-aged man. Nobody would be ok with it.
A girl I used to work with was getting mad at another dude in the office bcuz she claimed she was being discriminated against. She was talking to me about it and when she told me that she was paid less just for being a woman I was like "oh thats crazy, how much are you paid?" and she was like "Every paycheck is about a thousand dollars and his paycheck for the same job is 2500!" and I kindof stopped and was like ok thats a big difference, Its also much less than I am paid but here at our job we are paid per case we close, so I wasnt really asking how much his paycheck was but how much she was paid per case. so i asked "how much are you paid per case?" and she said "ten dollars." ok cool but how much does he get paid per case? "I dont know." ok well Im male and Im paid 10$ per case too.
So I tried to explain to her that we are paid 10$ per case and he just ends up closing more cases. basically hes doing more work so hes being paid more. Its not about gender. and her response was "But he makes more money!" umm yeah, but you're paid the same for the same work. He does more work so he gets paid more. "Exactly he gets paid more so its not fair!"
That job ended up changing how they viewed metrics which caused ppl who worked hard to get paid the same as lazy ppl. So all the hard working ppl stopped working hard and everyone else just did slightly more than the laziest group of ppl. company closed about 4 years later, I dont know why bcuz I didn't work there. I had quit like 8 or so months after they changed the rule but I could guess why they closed.
That's a solidly illustrative example of why incentives are the key to so much. People follow the incentives... well, rational people follow them. Not everyone is rational, and no one is rational all the time. They removed the incentive to work harder, so they suddenly lost productivity.
You should have explained it as "He's not getting payed $2500 for 40 hours, he's getting payed $2500 for 250 cases. How much do you get payed for 250 cases?"
I mean, it sounds like she might have been being deliberately obtuse in an attempt to get more money without more effort, but if she was really not understanding that might have worked.
the final paragraph in your comment is basically one of the outcomes of socialism lol
And this is exactly why communism doesnt work
Sounds like the company John Galt worked for in Altas Shrugged.
I dont see women squirming to be plumbers or oil plant workers. Just white collar high paying positions.
100% agreed.
The reality is that most women and alot of terminally online gimpy "men" especially in asmons channel forget who makes the world run. I'm sorry but better harder working men (than me 100% and most people these days) that work tough physical jobs have built everything we use and sustain them for us and lets be real most peope dont even think about them for 1second/dont have a clue what's happening. Our lives are cushty because of these great men.
These activist women only want "equality" in job positions where they can hold power over others.
A lot of men don't want these jobs, either, what is this conversation?
@@EhhmmmNothe conversation is that men still do them which is the only reason our society continues to function at all.
When women stood up for their rights, they didn't realize they'd lose their seat on the bus
the point isn't for combat or such. it's about 'equality'... when men (in general and not just landowners as previous) were given the Right to vote, it was because they had just instituted the Draft... men protested about having to fight in wars without having a say in the political process that were putting them in those wars... so Congress made a compromise... men HAD to sign up for the Draft, BUT, they were also allowed the Right to vote so they could have representation in the political process.....
Women NEVER had to take a responsibility in order to be given the Right to vote... they just cried enough and it was handed out to them..... that's not 'equality'.... that's privilege...... so since they've been screaming for 'equality' (even though they already have better than 'equality' in the legal system) men are starting to say "fine, we'll make it 'equal' by having women have the same responsibilities as men since they ALREADY have the same Rights as men.... " and the Draft is just one of those responsibilities..
Even the original Suffragettes acted like that.
Korean feminists once said, "we give birth instead of mandatory military service."
Well, clearly they don't 🤣
I've seen Korean birth statistics.
Common argument in Finland too where compulsory military service exists for men. Its dumb because its not like the law forces women to give birth...
@@themalcontent100 Yeah, birth rates of a dying society.
Thats a fair point. So if the women don't have offsprings by 45 they lose voting rights?
@@themalcontent100 LAMO
You’ll never hear them say male OF models should be paid equally to female OF models
Men determine how much women and men make on OF. There are more straight men than gay men, so it’s impossible for men to ever make more.
I've seen one or two
@@tesladrew2608 probably because they know it wouldn't happen, it's virtue signaling.
Now it will be AI models run by men, this is what women don't understand when that occurs what value will they have on the internet? It's going to be game over
What do you mean by that? does Onlyfans take different % from men?
Moral And fairness question: Since voting for representatives and presidents determines whether we go to war, and only men are required by law to be in the selective service, should women be allowed to vote? And why?
It blows my mind that women were so easily fooled into thinking making PowerPoints as a corporate drone would be more fulfilling than maintaining their household and raising their children.
That's why you gotta treat them like children
Holy shit preach
They weren’t fooled though, just given more options. Which also gave the men options to be more present in raising children and maintaining the household.
@@Lucaserik
No we weren't 'just given more options'. The Boomers pushed higher education and careers hard outside of ultra conservative comunities that were the opposite extreme. I'm a woman who is on that cusp between GenX and Millenial and can assure you we were indoctrinated into this agressively in media and school.
I'm glad to have the right to choose a career if I want, but we were shamed if we were not ambitious. We were told women can do anything men can do. We were so agressively discouraged from pregnancy and child reering in an effort to prevent teen pregnancy that it stuck for many of us and is getting worse with every generation. We were pretty much told we would have no future if we didn't go to college for somethong, anything, that it will guarantee us higher pay no matter what we chose. Worse yet, we were told we could just wait indefinitely to have children 'when you are ready' and to do a full course of college and establish a career and buy a house first.
@@ANPC-pi9vu I agree that there is a discussion to be had about what kinds of ideas we give children about what is expected of them. Though you also have to be realistic; as a father I would give my children advice they would need to survive in the society we live in. Becoming a mother at 20 years old and having to struggle to make a living and not be able to pursue higher education is not the most flattering way to live either, especially since most modern household can't survive on just one persons salary.
Another question is, why not both? I live in Sweden, and while its a country that is far from perfect on thing it has is an incredibly long parental leave. Countries can and have succeeded in putting structures in place that accommodate people wanting to work and raise children at the same time.
At some point people have to realize EQUALITY is essentially just a social agreement that flies out the the window the moment things get tough.
100%
Meritocracy is good but its not how life works most of the time
and things are becoming tough
Luxury beliefs
@@bsherman8236 technically even nature works under meritocracy. Might makes right is the most basic form of meritocracy. Unfortunately it involves no morals or sacred human value, so under that form of meritocracy, due to the lack of Christianity, you get things that are blatant moral crimes but since you're less fit the strong can do it to you, or vice versa.
Equality when it's convenient.
"Equity"
@@Darkness2179Equity is different though? Isn't Equity the one where the less privileged ones should receive more than the more privileged ones so that they may be on the same level?
Like Equality is as if I'm saying I'll give 4 apples to everyone, Equity is If I give 4 apples to the starving guy and 1 apple to the one not starving.
That's equity right? Or is it another one?
Yes. Fems want "equity". Same benefits for zero work.
@@StoryEnjoyer220 that's right, and they are saying women, the ones that historically aren't fighting and die for the defense of home and country, are the ones that are in the less equitable position. There was a whole time of history where chivalry was a thing, which was essentially what they are asking for now (in a different way of course) but, was voluntentary instead of government enforced like they wish.
equity is like privileges to incompetents
"Idiots don't know they're idiots, which is unfortunate." ~Walter Dean Myers
He really said "Drafted to the kitchen"
Just look at the current state of Kathleen Kennedy’s the “Force is Female” LucasFilm. A bitter glorified coffee fetcher was GIVEN, not earned, near complete control of LucasFilm over an actually qualified talent.
And how’s that workin’ out?
💯
muh populer cultur
Bruh... Disney Starwars is NOT canon for me
@@Theorammanot cannon for anyone. Heir to the empire would have been an easy win trilogy. But disney couldn't make something good.
@@Theoramma Same here.
Equal rights, equal fights.
*equal rights and equal lefts
You 2 need to clean your blue waffle
You can have equal rights without mutating to one only gender. Think about that.
In the Netherlands women can get drafted equally to men. There's just a set of criteria, and it doesn't matter whether you're a woman or a man, if you meet it, you can be drafted.
i guess im just that one woman who says "DRAFT MEE" i wanted to join the navy so bad or chair force
Since men should not be allowed to legislate what women do with their bodies,women should not be allowed to legislate military actions that lead to men’s death and injury.
The argument of " he only brings on dumb women" is silly since they all vote
To be fair they could pick women at random and probably still have alot of the same mindsets/debate skills on the show.
@@rosssivertson6339 My point is that 100% of the women on the podcast have the right to vote. So they should have the base ability to argue their beliefs that they vote for without looking dumb
@@wolfy3200 more then half the population can't argue their beliefs and aren't fit to vote. Most of them are usually hung up on 1 issue that decides how they vote.
There will be many many women voting this election cycle simply on abortion. Forget about inflation and the wars and everything else.
I'm Greek and in November, I'm forced to go to the army for a whole year. Until I finish my mandatory service, as a male, I cannot find a job and I am forced to lose an entire year off my life. Nearly all women who were my classmates in the University, were able to immediately find a job right after graduating, I am forced to lose an entire year doing chores for the army without getting paid (its 8€ a month) just so I can finally get hired. This is a great inequality imo. Why shouldn't it be mandatory for both men and women, wouldn't that be true equality?
As a fellow Greek who did his compulsory military service about 10 years ago, I feel ya. I have one piece of advice φίλε, make it count. It's a year of your life, YOUR life, so get the most experience you can out of it. Apply to the Special Forces, the Presidential Guard, or ΕΛΔΥΚ. When you have an easy, boring, chore-driven military service, time does NOT go by. When you've got stuff to do every single day, sure, it gets tiring, but your service will be finished without you even knowing it. Have a nice θητεία, and may you be a good citizen.
Your not really on his side, just downplaying the problem@@Dalinos
@@BOOMDIGGER Ah yes, stranger on the internet, please, analyze my thoughts on a fellow compatriot who is about to embark on the exact same journey all able-bodied Greek males have to go through in their lives.
@@BOOMDIGGERhe’s giving advice because obviously these guys can’t change laws before his service in November. It’s perfectly valid
you should be complaining about mandatory service instead of women then
13 year Infantryman here - I’ve had plenty of women over the past few years as Infantry, and honestly 7/10 times it just doesn’t work out. When it does it’s usually because they’re either super fit compared to most women, or they’re the same size as a heartier guy.
Examples: Every single woman under 5’5” is automatically at a disadvantage, because they’re now dealing with woman physiology with the same expectations for weight and work as the guys. The guys can build muscle in ways women can’t. They can handle much heavier burdens (in my experience). With the women, it’s almost always hip injuries that get them. But sometimes you get a woman who is just a straight up beast, an outlier, and they’re just as good as the guys. This is also shown a lot via our Army Combat Fitness Test, where women take exponentially longer to drag 90lbs than men.
Side thought: I see a lot of men having unconditional chivalrous attitudes towards women in combat arms, largely due to culture in the US (prior to today’s generation). So you can argue that is also a reason not to have women in combat roles - chivalry could lead to unnecessary distractions.
My observations and opinions.
Physical size is not an indicator of strength or stamina. There’s a correlation between weight and strength sure but the issue with women isn’t about size. I’m a kinesiologist and this size thing is a pet peeve of mine.
@@ILoveGrilledCheesesize does matter...
Edit: I just googled what kinesiology is. It's pseudoscience with no actual science behind it and evidence that it works... which is why they said this nonsense statement
On your last paragraph, I'm pretty sure I've read a study with a similar deduction. When female combatants were wounded in combat situations, male counterparts were more likely to take drastic measures to attempt to save them.
I'll have to see if I can find it again, might not have been reputable
@@ILoveGrilledCheese Size absolutely matters in close quarters combat, for example, where superior reach means higher chance of success. It also matters in regards to the center of gravity and your ability to exert force in many weight lifting situations, so idk what you're on about.
@@TheBangooman in biomechanics the rule is your muscles exert more force the shorter they are. In deadlifts this means you can exert more force if you are closer to the ground, so a shorter person has an _advantage_ compared to someone larger. What makes women not owning the scere is because they really can't build the same amount of muscles as men because they generally have 20% less testosterone.
Also the argument wasn't about combatability but the strength they have due to size which is just not true.
Drafting woman into combat is a horrible idea for a myriad of reasons.
Strength and agility being number one. In the wise words of vetTV "you put a hundred pound pack on a woman and she crumbles like a crouton"
I spent just under 5 years in the Corps, I can tell you from firsthand experience, women physically break under those conditions. Hips, shins, shoulders, backs, but mainly hips. They get hurt all the time, and spend half of their enlistments on light duty skipping PT. I don't fault them, I fault leadership for making them think and honestly believing we're the same.
Beyond that, let me tell you, when you haven't even seen a PICTURE of a woman for months, let alone the real article, things happen to you.
Now, imagine an entire platoon or hell a battalion of enemy troops, all men because they aren't on our BS, facing off against Americans, KNOWING that we have women in the front line ranks.
You don't think they'd be extra motivated to kill and take prisoners? I can assure you, they would. You can figure out what that means.
When you take away everything from a man, he becomes motivated by basic needs. Food, water, shelter, and women.
I agree 100% women should also be drafted. But for non-combat jobs, they could actually be a huge help when shit goes south. I personaly know a Green Beret, retired navy pilot, and my dad who served as a tanker in the army and they all say "HELL NO i dont wanna die" lol. Men are just built differently thats all, women are smarter and men are stronger.... Females are still able to join, just no draft for them so at the end of the day it all works out.
I think there is a term called "Schrödinger's Feminist" if I'm not mistaken.
They choose if they are a victim or empowered based on when it benefits them.
@@jfkst1 Exactly what everyone is thinking and know is TRUE
Selective feminism, and the "selective" part is redundant.
Well, is there a term or isn't there?
@@immortaljanus funny
here in Austria we have 6 months mandatory military service once 18 (only for males obv.) or 9 months Civil service (paramedic, elderly care, etc.) and almost always when I've brought it up to a woman that that's not equality they try to somehow argue that it is fair. I've had my school teacher argue that it is more than fair since woman get pregnant. Absolutely stupid. And don't get me started on mens mental health
So it is mandatory that women must get pregnant?
So if women don't produce offsprings by 45 they lose voting rights?
@@richardthompson6366I hope so. 😂
@@richardthompson6366 my thoughts exactly
So if a woman says she does not want children (childfree), should she be sent to the active Army right away? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
An unreliable ally is much more dangerous than a capable enemy.
Women can be more reliable than males in some tactical combat roles. There was a study, that a woman sniper is more likely to pull the trigger to shoot another woman or a child (if they are carrying a bomb etc) than a male. Male would hesitate, while woman would shoot a mother in cold blood. Not all soldiers are Gears of War muscle tanks that need to carry bodies around.
During WWI and WWII women went after men to push them to go to war.
Many were bullied to the point of enlisting even tho they had serious health issues or were just kids.
A lot of boys lied about their age and died in war because of women, and a lot of men who were refused the chance to serve end up ending themselves because of the humiliation these women would impose on them, they would even target men who had been sent home after an injury.
Obviously there are many women who would never do this, but the modern feminists are the type of women who act superior while doing nothing of value.
I read a factoid about this. The White Feather Movement.
Women gave or just placed white feathers to men who were not in uniform, trying to shame them into signing up.
Which, ofcourse, can and has, backfired. Men on leave were given white feathers, soldiers temporarily out of uniform were given white feathers, cripples, boys below the minimum age, etc.
There was one anecdote by a woman who told that all the boys and men in the village were shamed to go to war.
None returned. The only males left were white haired old men, and preteen boys.
All the girls (and some older women) of marriage age had literal zero prospects, unless they went elsewhere (and even then it was just as bad).
Apparently some of the women who gave out white feathers regretted it.
The funny thing is, that feminism's push to legalize women to vote was largely opposed by women who did not want to be drafted. It was the legislature that passed the first right to vote bill that allowed for an exclusion for women to not be required the same responsibilities as men.
So men were the ones that allowed this from the very start. A man passed that bill, and a man put the exception into it. Men voted on it.
Feminists realized they can get away with responsibility-free privilege and have been pushing for it ever since.
Men didn’t allow this, and women didn’t want it. Corporations pushed for women’s suffrage.
Well the trauma of WW1 WW2 and Vietnam draft really opened their eyes wide with the draft and loss of so many.
@@heliosgnosis2744 women got the right to vote before 2/3 of your reason for them not wanting to get drafted. Tf is that logic?
was it a jewish man by any chance?
This point on the podcast was by far their weakest and showed a supreme lack of research and understanding on the topic. The implication women did not want to vote because of the draft was definitely not the majority opinion of women at the time.
I looked it up myself out of curiosity and you will find not one valid source mentioning an opposition by women protesting the right to vote en masse. Hell immediately after being allowed to vote over 8 million women did which was immediately the average % of people who can vote that do vote being around 16% at the time.
Its called feminist instead of equalist for a reason.
Utilitarian humanism is a thing. Educate yourself. Most things worth thinking about has already been largely fleshed out by smart people.
@@donaldcedar7574 it's called a joke. Educate yourself.
Feminism is a sub category of equalism. Wanting to focus on a specific issue is a bad thing?
@@FerunaLutelou what is the joke? I'm not even saying I disagree with the original comment but they are just saying a point.
What is the joke in that comment?
So, not feminism? Gotcha, thanks for the nothing burger 😂@@donaldcedar7574
The answer is YES. Its equally.
Here is a not so popular opinion but it's true. Every single woman that has worn the uniform has done it because the standards to wear the uniform were changed just for them to be able to pass.
Citation Needed.
I find it funny that the same kind of people say someone can have a natural predisposition to gain weight, but they can't fathom men being predisposed to gaining muscle.
True true. 😂
logic isn't their thing, I would say is quite the contrary
Men are the ones who had to get tough just to survive evolution and the build civilization through the ages till now. Women have some work to do
Literally nobody is arguing that men aren’t stronger. You really have to evaluate the media you consume if you think that’s an actual disagreement that’s is happening.
@@Lucaserik People believe men and women are equal, that would mean men can't be stronger, that's not equal.
FYI: The phrase "Every Marine is a rifleman" is a Marine Corps mantra that means every Marine, regardless of their specialty, should receive basic infantry training and be able to perform the role of a rifleman if needed. This includes knowing how to load and fire a rifle accurately up to 500 yards away. The phrase is also meant to convey that non-infantry units can defend themselves and their positions.
Every MCRD Graduate is a Rifleman.
doesn't basic training(not just Marines but all forces) apply to all positions anyway?
thats what every branch says and does, the entire point of basic, is to have ppl know basic infantry skills, and then learn their job.
It's fare to all military specialties, because all soldiers, despite their position and role in army, must know how to service their weapon, shoot it, understand basic tactics.
Prior 0311 here.
Holy shit, they absolutely aren't.
"every marine is a rifleman"
Lost every marksmanship comp to the Army (and one to the Coast Guard) for the last 20 years.
"every Marine, regardless of their specialty, should receive basic infantry training and be able to perform the role of a rifleman if needed"
Yes, that's... that's what they do in EVERY basic training, I'm pretty sure in the world.
Not houndin' on you, I just thought it was funny.
The thing is, all jobs women can do, men can do to and sometimes even better. With childcare, if more women were stay-at-home moms, then we wouldn't need childcare in the first place.
Spiderwoman's motto. "With great power comes no responsibility."
"Maybe there's like six girls that can do that, but nah that's not gonna happen"
Bro true. I've only met ONE woman in the Marine Corps who could actually fireman carry me and she was built like a brick shithouse. She was pumping out pull ups and keeping up with the rest of the guys. Very impressive tbh, loved her to death. She was also kind of a butch lesbian and made a great wingman in bars.
But for the most part, most women I knew in the Marines fell into the expected average physical performance for women of their age.
Ya only tomboy girls try to keep up.
I hate when people say "you're generalizing". Some people don't understand that generalizations always imply exceptions. When you say "in general", or "generally speaking", then they understand that exceptions are implied, but they don't complain that you're still generalizing.
huh, interesting to see linguistic drift in action. looks "in general" went from implying an exception to being a blanket statement during my lifetime. Atleast in the common vernacular.
@@oscarlove4394 I've never heard "in general" used as an blanket statement excluding all exception... I find it hard to believe you have either...
@@oscarlove4394
What the hell are you talking about, no one has ever used the phrase “in general” or the word “generally” as a blanket statement, and the usage has not changed over time.
When you talk about generalities, you’re talking about averages & patterns, for example, humans are generally straight, but that doesn’t mean ALL humans are straight coz you have some people who’re gay/bi.
@@Jabberwocky818 I don't think so either. But in a normal conversation, it is usually implied. It might be more precise to say "in general" or "on average" every time, but it can get tedious when you are in the middle of a conversation. And, from experience, it also has the downside of getting less attention.
I’ve found success with rebutting that with “the exception is not the rule buddy” and then they’re all ears
The fact that kids cant read clocks is outfuckingragous
Didnt the smerican army lower its fitness standards to allow women to enlist?
Doesnt that already prove the point.
They lowered the fitness standards for women. Their requirements to pass is lower than men and yet men pass more often.
all physical standards are lowered. police, fire fighters, military ...
yes. my failing results from my PT test as a man would be high enough to almost get the max score for the females. it was a joke.
@@gabecollins5585fitness standards has always been lower
At 24 I had to do a 13 min mile to get 100% a woman my age had to do 1540 to get 100% that was mid OEF
About 2014 females became capable of going combat in arms , they had been able to be in sapper school around that same time . About a few years later they began talking about them going to ranger school/SF
During field training we would stay out for a week , females (mandatory ) got to go back to barracks for hygiene .
Never have had a female friend in the service that wanted to go combat in arms , that’s how downhill the service with and how low they stooped with signing bonuses and commisions for recruiters
@@toodlepop Bruh, not even mild overlap like reaching the lower end of a pass?
The real problem is that these girls needed him to explain what the draft is.
Considering men are automatically registered these days, the zoomer guys probably don't know either
@@tesladrew2608 There's still a section on it when I renewed my DL a few months ago and afaik HS standards haven't changed which is where everyone learns about the Selective Service. And if you get financial aid for college, Selective Service registration is required to apply.
thats mansplaining and thats sexist
@@NicholasLatipi no mansplaining is basically telling someone how to do their job and they already know. It's sexist when you're doing it to a woman and wouldn't do it to a man.
1924: In 100 years we will have anime cat girls
2024: Explaining to people that men and women are different
The point about combat roles: There are plenty of combat roles you don't need a huge amount of strength for. Sure, you probably won't make a good infantry soldier, but there are other roles. Tank crewman is a classic example where they pick the short and small people and not the 6 foot 4 Chad who is twice as wide as an average person, because news flash, the inside of a tank is quite small. Drone operator, great example of something you don't need physical strength for. A military also needs shit ton of vehicles driven. Supply trucks, self propelled artillery, mortar vehicles etc. Air defense system operator is also one.
Most of what you've listed require significant strength. Tank crewmen don't just drive the funny large vehicle, most maintenance is carried out by the crew(very manpower intensive), not to include the loader which is absolutely a physically demanding job lugging/loading 40lb shells every ~4 seconds in a sprint. Drone operators not operating out of the major bases generally are deployed very close to contested zone in austere environments which are not comfortable living which would result in unhealthy practices with mixed gender bases. Artillery crews are extremely physically demanding as well, from digging in the gun, to lugging around the shells(100lb), mortar crews have the same issue as artillerymen and tank crews while mechanized, on foot they are infantrymen with even more weight/physical requirements.
The only job you have listed that is somewhat feasible would be utility vehicle driving which has been a role open to women for centuries, the sadly departed monarch Queen Elizabeth drove supply trucks during WW2.
While I understand your enthusiasm about the inclusion of women in combat roles, most roles are very physically demanding such that even most men now-an-days are failing to achieve the minimum physical standards. There are plenty of other roles to fill without getting someone killed through incompetence.
@Flight042 and if you find yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time these jobs turn into infintry roles.
lol. This is hilarious. 2nd commenter stole my thunder so I can keep this short, but he is right. I think my toughest time in the military was as a track driver. Breaking track is no joke.
0:52 aaaand he’s cancelled again.
Here in Holland they just did it. They said women are equal, you can now be drafted. Guess who complained the most?
Women.
women given equality - women most affected.
Same here in Denmark, i laughed so much for weeks xD
Watch Ukraine. Running out of manpower in the army, the keep lowering the draft age bar, and there are already narratives pushed by pro-government speakers that women should be drafted too, soon. Actually, ukrainian feminists have been real quiet for a while...
Non feminist women id imagine. You need to stop putting normal women in the same boat as these extreme Feminists.
The funny thing about HR being one of the most common women's jobs is the fact that they're so BAD at that job..
Its fun when you find out your resume was ignored because HR did not like the font you used.
@@jimbo2553Lol I applied for a position at my workplace that is for overseeing the electrical preventative maintenance schedule for the system I work on EVERY SINGLE DAY. They wanted 10 years experience which I have 12 and 5 years trade schooling/college. When I pressed the issue HR told me I only have “half credit” experience because I’m “just” an electrician and then let some guy that does coax television through the application process.
HR is a bullshit position anyways. Companies would be better off without it, and they'd be able to pay the employees with actual value better.
HR exists to make workplaces more feminine. It's not pushing results or training people to be exceptional. It's doing conflict resolution and enforcing rules that mean you can't fire someone for a long time even if they're bad.
HR is a job to protect a company. That's it. They're not bad at it, you don't understand the purpose of HR. HR is not to help you, it's to shield the company from you. They only tell you things they legally have to, in order to protect the company from liability.
So unless the HR was doing things that made you able to sue the company, they where doing their job perfectly.
Here in Greece as of 2024 it is optional for women to apply for a military service.
Although for men, it is an obligation and you are forced to go. If not, you are automatically decleread as a deserter
you pay about 8000 Euros and still you face legal issues.
As a man, I believe that women won't even last a week in the military.
Women athletes should be paid EXACTLY what men are paid PER ACTIVE VIEWER. No viewers = no money. A lot of viewers = a lot of money. Its simple. Oh some sports do not finance themselves? Abandon them professionally then.
I asked a feminist once "If men and women are equal, why weren't they? Why is oppression going always one way?"
She lost her mind, It was like watching a computer glitch XD
Glitched so hard there are folk saying men and women aren't different and a man can be a woman even with all the man-bits.
Well the ones talking about women being superior are funny to me.
If they were so great, why would "the patriarchy" be able to stop them for so long?
@@Ni-boo The mental image that I got when I read that, was like the old BSOD from Windoze.
Funny... that was a "Global protection fault".
@@chandraray7798 because men in power hadn't lent them their rights yet, lol.
@@denkerbosu3551 I mean if they were so great they wouldn't beed men in power to lend them anything.
Men: skilled in some areas
Women: skilled in other areas
Sometimes they overlap.
They are not the same.
Neither are lesser.
Except one gets paid more and also says the other is privileged...
Exactly!
@@Delos_Shoe To be fair, women get paid more in the adult/lewd industry though.
@@frankmills1917 Fair enough, but it's not just that industry.
1 Timothy 2
Instructions to Women
9Likewise, I want the women to adorn themselves with respectable apparel, with modesty, and with self-control, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10but with good deeds, as is proper for women who profess to worship God.
11A woman must learn in quietness and full submissiveness. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; she is to remain quiet. 13For Adam was formed first, and then Eve. 14And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman who was deceived and fell into transgression. 15Women, however, will be saved through childbearing, if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.
For context I am a volunteer firefighter in germany. Some 95% of our firefighters are volunteers so we get full provesional training and equipment adn do during a fire all the jobs a paied firefighter in the us would do.
I would never ever go into a butrning building as part of the respiratory protection squad if my group had a 40kg or less man in it. And i am by faar no the only one. Simplie due to the fact that if I were to fall uncounsious there is no chance in hell a 40kg skinny dude could carry my heavy ass with all the equipment and added weight out of the building. For the same reason I, and many others, would never ever go into a building with a woman in our squad. IF I won't even trust every man to be strong and fast enough Then I won't ever trust "every woman" or any woman at all, to be strong and fast enough. There might be some realy strong woman that are strong and fast enough but they would have to prove it first, just test draging my as to "savety" in full gear, but if we talk generalisation, and these femminists always talk generalisation, tehn I simply say there is no way in hell I would trust a woman in that role.
edit typo wrong number
They always want to ralk about representation in the office, but never representation in the garbage trucks.
Women being drafted for non combat roles pushes more men to the front lines while women just sit back and collect a paycheck
And guess what? Those non combat roles count as work experience while field work doesn’t. 😂
You're not wrong but is that really an issue? Yeah it means drafted men are pretty much guaranteed to be front line but it also means less men will need to be drafted in general since there are less positions for them to fill. If I had to choose between a higher chance to not be drafted completely or a higher chance to not be front lines, I'll choose to not get drafted
@@legendunbound5845 It's also a problem because, guess what? Men are also better in non-combatant works. And in the military, you want EVERYTHING to be optimal.
Women being there at all gets in the way of that.
@@denkerbosu3551is that a problem with the women or the draft though? There would be no point in making any limitations on gender as long as the tests were good enough to distinguish between people who can do the job and people who can’t.
Did 20 years in the military. My opinion is I don't care if it's a man or a woman doing any particular job, including infantry. My only gripe is when you see different physical standards applied. So, I think a woman can do just find in infantry AS LONG AS she passes the same physical standards we expect the men to pass. Does that mean less woman in infantry? More woman being denied? Yes, but combat effectiveness is more important that cooking the books to look more equal.
Dude, women never pass physical tests based on men's standards. Maybe one out of ten thousand women can and will pass.
Well said. Asmon's argument that because woman can't carried injured colleagues from the battlefield they shouldn't be on the front line. So there is only 1 skill you need on the front lines? You think the guys are going at each other with axes or something, bro? Anyway, Asmon clearly had one of his brain farts
Out of curiosity then : is there weight lifting standards? I mean carry X amount of weight representing a wounded person? Cause if that’s the case then shouldn’t the standards be % based on body weight?
For men this is obvious logic, but for women it's sexism. That is until people start shooting or anything other goes wrong. Then they see the logic real quick and reverse into a trad-wife at mach-5 speed.
@gustaferiksson1503 this is why as of 2019 there were 0 women in the infantry. They can not pass the requirements. Ironically its not lifting weight that's the problem. Its the hiking. Going up a mountain carrying a 60lb pack and not fall out of formation is what was breaking every woman when i was in.
A drone pilot is a combat role. I would reverse that logic if i were you.
Average conversation using generalizations:
Me: "World hunger exists."
Her: "But I'm not hungry."
That’s not a generalization.
@@ChinnuWoWHim:" World hunger exists even though I'm not hungry"
Her:"I'm not hungry therefore world hunger doesn't exist"
Uhhh
Exactly my ex.
1. I'm cold so we should ramp up thermostat across all apartment to make it more warm
2. Are you saying you're cold? But I'm not, so something should be wrong with you.
Whats crazy is some tennis tournaments make men play more but get paid the same, which makes no sense
So woman do get paid more than man if that is true
Entertainment is definitely like that. If the sport is popular for men, it’ll make more overall so men can be paid a smaller percentage than the women’s version but have a bigger number.
Who is to say which is fair? The jealous women, I suppose.
Sports is entertainment, you get paid if you draw in viewers.
That’s because in tennis there’s not much difference in the viewership between males & females.
You get paid based on viewership, nor by how much you play.
It’s not like women’s football/basketball in which they don’t draw in viewers & therefore don’t get paid as much as the men, even though they are being paid proportionally more than the men, women’s tennis leagues are self sufficient & don’t require financial support from the men’s side.
Not some, most
This all ends when people start admitting that the sexes are not equal. Does that mean a return to "traditional" roles? No.
I still remember being ~14 at the dentist, the female hygienist was making small talk about me starting to drive soon and just casually started saying "and you're a man so you will have to pay more for insurance" ....Which I found out to be true. I have been driving for ~15 years now and not even a fender bender btw.
Literal legal discrimination. Just imagine if that were against women or racially designated. People would implode today.
I will not give any woman attention that thinks they are uniquely discriminated against, or that they have it hard for being a woman today. It simply is not true. It is so pathetic that some people really fantasize about being a victim, even more so that they try and convince others.
Feminists equality system: do I get more free stuff = yes I agree, do I have to do or give or be responsible = no.
Either we're equal or we're not.
If a man is going to have more Obligations he also needs to have more Rights.
Why?
Does that also mean that disabled men who aren't able to be drafted should have less rights?
@@Kyuupire
Wait, you're really going to equate disability with gender differences as an argument for Equality? You just lost your own argument, if that's the case.
@@innocentbystander3317 It's their entire go-to since the 60s. They pull out the extreme exception and try to make it the rule
@@Kyuupire Being a women does not prevent you from being drafted.
All it does it make it harder, like a man that is left handed, needing glasses or being older, overweight etc.
Any disability that would prevent you from being drafted, as are defined under draft rules, should not be penalized.
@@nonyabisness6306 The physical differences between men and women aren't comparable to being left and right handed. They're not just a tiny difference that might make some things slightly more difficult. Overweight men can lose weight. Men over a certain age aren't drafted. Even if a woman is able to perform at the same level of the average man, it comes at a greatest cost to her physical well being. And without healthy young women you won't have any future soldier.
Women should be happy that they don't have to do all this crap men need to do. Can't imagine a better task than raising kids. But sure, give all the benefits away to be an empowered, independent feminist :)
The part at the end where he was trying to read the cake line and went to the default: the chatter actually said “They want to have their cake *and not get fat*”, meaning all the reward, none of the responsibilities as he said
they want advantage not equal
you spelled *SUPREMACY* wrong.
They want the attention even if they’re wrong.
That podcast is set up to give women that attention and then mooch off it, consider the medium for two seconds
They fought for the right to be whatever they want, then defaulted to the oldest profession and continued to sell themselves.
If you don't register for the draft, then you shouldn't get a vote.
Pretty simple. Otherwise, making only men enlist is illegal discrimination.
Now, I'd rather women NOT be drafted, but again, then they don't get to vote in elections.
Asmond, the phrase “have your cake and eat it too” isn’t what you think it means. It means you can’t physically keep your cake and eat it because once you eat it, it is gone.
The US womens team in soccer (football) is overpaid compared to the men. Still, they whine about being underpayed.
People in sports are usually paid depending on the number of people who watch those events. Since hardly anyone is interested in watching women at sports, they just don't bring in a lot of money. Paying them the same just means that the men have to give their money to the women. That's fair, right?
US women’s soccer only exist because of the US men’s soccer team. Almost all women’s sports except for golf loses money every year.
I think I remember a video that said Men like 7% from the revenue generated and women are paid 20% from the revenue generated.
Edit: I found the video
"Pay equality at the forefront of the USWNT parade | First Take"
They were paid the same as men, and they got more medical and other benefits the men did not get. (mostly paid by the men's team)
The only reason most women's sports teams are even still around is because the mens leagues support them with millions in subsidies. They're literally welfare leagues. How are you supposed to get paid more when your team doesn't bring in enough revenue? It's basic economics really
@@ingiford175 It is even crazier
The woman did got to choces between 2 types of contract
The first like the men, so more money and not much benefits, the woman didn't want that
The second was with less money, but with way more benefits, all woman picked that on
Later they cried about getting paid less, to they did get more pay
Now they have both contracts together....
I remember hearing about a study that showed that a lot of women want the high paying ceo-tier jobs, but at the same time do not want to take up the responsibility of a leadership role because it is too stressful. It really says a lot about what a lot of feminism is really about.
Cake, and eating it.
Woman here. Feminism was originally supposed to make sure woman had rights. It's really changed drastically since the start, they need to focus only on places where women still aren't treated fairly, or help women in general who are in bad situations. It's difficult to get out of a hole if you're starting with nothing. Wanting to not be bought and sold like a commodity while having no say in your life and being unable to work (like it was before feminism) is completely unrelated to being drafted. It's wild that we've gotten here. SO many people act like feminism is about women just wanting privilege. it did NOT start that way.
Yes. We should be drafted, same as men. I'm a female former serving member of the Royal Australian Navy. Overall, women didn't perform as well at physical tasks, but it's not only a physical job. We bring a lot of different skills to the table. Especially in branches such as the navy and airforce.
It fucked me up. But it fucks men up, too. I had men crying in my arms about their service, same as women crying in my arms about how service men fucked them up.
When everyone gets f*cked up approximately the same amount, you have true equality -- that certainly sums up the human condition, doesn't it?
Oil rig worker:
Work schedule is two weeks on, one week off. You have to share a motel room with another guy, so a solo room for a woman if not two women on two alternating 14 hour shifts. Ride a bus with 30+ angry drug addicts with $85 per diem to spend on rolls of chewing tobacco. Sometimes a fight breaks out on the bus ride, those guys get fired on the spot and they hulk out over it.
The work its self could have female capable activities, but most tasks will require 50-200lbs of force. Too many low weight workers means the big guys will have to take on the loads of the women when the tasks call for it.
"You have to share a motel room with another guy, so a solo room for a woman.."
men and women are in same bunks, same showers, same tents in finnish military. naturally, because they are in the same place in war.
if all work requires big guy force by hand all the time, with no equipment, then the work process is badly designed. like they are finally thinking of making automatic loaders on tanks and artillery in western armies.
@@Redmanticore very interesting about the military.
In civilian life, the corporations that run oil rigs face heavy regulation for safety, but the competition between companies drives a demand for higher performance, so lifting heavy weights is essentially required for increased performance.
These workers are paid so much that simply hiring more workers so that everyone can max at 50lbs of lift would be absurdly expensive by comparison.
@@Redmanticore Autoloaders have been used on western military artillery and tanks for decades.
@@Redmanticore As if military standards in the Western World haven't been on a freefall since the end of the Cold War.
For real, have an Xbox friend whose husband works on oil rigs and she talks about the hardships of the job often.
“There are no feminists in a house fire.”
-Bill Burr
Its kinda like that meme with the feminists and the washing machine when it comes to drafting
Still don't get it why people can't understand that woman are not the equal of men but men are not the equal of woman and that doesn't mean one is inferior to the other, just different.
Thank you! I've been trying to get this across.😢
They go on the shows because they do no know they are dumb. Ever since they turned like 14 people have been telling them they are smart and funny. Rare do they get pushback.
Lots of OF girls have shown that after going on FnF or Whatever, their OF income goes up by thousands of dollars. Pretty sure this is just smart advertising to farm the incels, exact same way these podcasts are doing it.
@@EhhmmmNo Seems weird that incels (who as far as I know despises OF girls) would sub and pay for content when they can pirate it on reddit. If anyone's joining their OF it's random simps, not incels.
@@EhhmmmNo your a bot not even real youtube is forceing me to be nice so i will just say your a bot
Friendly reminder that Feminism is about getting privileges. Anything outside of Human Rights is advocacy for special privileges.
Yep, and when things are in their favor, they don't care about trying to equalise things the other way. At best they're a women's advocacy group, at worst, they're a soup rem a cyst group.
Unfortunately, there are a disturbing amount of people who think being able to get an education or a job outside of maid is a privilege.
It's not fun watching the sane dudes screeching about women being worthless outside of popping out kids calling the women who do pop out and take care of those kids full time an economic drain only after their money. It's not fun watching the same women screeching about empowerment deriding the women who chose to be homemakers.
Crazies on one side create crazies on the other.
@@sianais If thats the case prove them wrong... Woman for the last 5 decades have been unable to prove these "incels" wrong. will it take a man to prove them wrong?
HOW IRONIC.
Many of the anti feminists on that show actively argue for the removal of women's human rights.
@@anacc3257 Depends on the argument. The problem is that too many people believe that removal or denial of special rights is a removal or denial of a human right since often they don't actually know the distinction.
You tell the obvious truth. Problem is that politics nowadays caters to the crazy people that won't accept the facts.
Drafted, yes. They want to step up and have real equality. Russia during WWII, had women fighting. Israel drafts women. There are more women than men, it is also their responsibility.
in ww2 Britain sent men to fight and women to the factories to build war equipment. even the late queen was a mechanic during it thats equality
same happened with America
@@thepsychomagus i don't think america's queen was a mechanic. can you cite your sources?
@@toodlepop Quit being a troll, you know good and well they only meant the same practices were happening at the same moment in history with another nation in this case the US
@@heliosgnosis2744 thank god you're here to explain it to everyone. you've saved the comment section lol.
Well yeah ww2 is where the feminist movement started. Because the men all came back from war and found that women had been doing all of their jobs while they were away.
But that because there was a need and a physical hierarchy. Because there was a physical demand for soldiers the men had to fill it which left a gap that the women had to step up to do more physical jobs than they were used to back home.
Those jobs probably could be done better by men, but only because it's physical and men are stronger and have more experience in it. But women are capable of doing those things.
To the person who said female tennis players earn more is incorrect. Men earned more, until the women started complaining, now they both receive the same prize money. Bearing in mind men play best of 5, whereas women play best of 3.
There’s a reason why women in tennis and golf play with men at the same time. If the women tennis players and golfers didn’t play with the men, no one would show up to watch women’s golf and tennis. No one.
Its still about the audience.
I farted
@@sageoldmann5157 I don’t know about golf but women’s tennis has its own fan base. It’s not as much as the men’s but it’s still enough. For the mixed doubles matches you are thinking off, those are just exhibitions and not popular.
Now compare %age of revenue they bring in vs what they get paid lmfao
I’ve always said: I’ll be the first to march with my sisters for the right to provide service to the country. If men are obliged then it would be sexist to not include our sisters in equality
They got a bunch of TikTokers whose hardest day at work was yelling during a college protest for 2h, and they got asked if they're okay with being assigned actual work. Is anyone surprised with the outcome?
I'd support being drafted for equality. My mom would support being drafted, even as a conscientious objector. This is not an issue with women, it's an issue with entitled princesses who actually have time to appear on such shows.
I know the video is about US.
But in Korea, all able men are required to go to the military. Our voting rights, citizenship is all taken away if you don't go (unless there is a very good reason like disabilities). Women are not required, they can sign up and they start from staff sergeant which is higher than all drafted men.
And what Zack says 0:40 is very true from what I heard from others and my own experience. Every training they were useless. And they have no idea how hard some trainings are.
Recently a female Captain(rank) drilled a new trainee (one week) so much the trainee passed away from rhabdomyolysis. Full trainee military ruck march gear (24kg) and made them jog for 1.5km and do push ups. Korean summers are over 30C and with high humidity (78~79%).
She also mocked him as he was on the ground. She did not apologies to the family until it was picked up on the news and she went on a paid leave holiday.
I saw another video of that podcast (Mar 7, 2024) Brian said that the right to vote came from military service. If that is true then since they want equal rights they should give up the right to vote.
It was common in ancient times that you'd only become part of the militia if you were part of the property owning class, also often the only class who had a vote.
In later times yes you could become a full citizen through military service, but earlier than that it was only full citizens/male property owners who could join the city's militia. Also they'd have to supply their own armor and weapons, so wealth or previous service by your father was required.
Suddenly, the Federation from Starship Troopers makes perfect sense. You want the citizenship - you enlist, no matter what gender you are.
The whole point was to have a vested interest in how the country is governed, which makes a lot of sense. Women getting the right to vote isn't an issue, only that they have no investment to insure the country is being run well. The right to vote should now be for anyone who's successfully done 1 term of military service or a net taxpayer to the country. And studies show that women generally don't do military service or are net taxpayers.
This reminds me of what happened in Taiwan some years ago. Some constitutional lawyer discovered two conflicting clauses: one said the sexes are treated as equals, and the other many pages further down said that all men have to go through national service. A vox pop on television news asking passing women went like this:
Reporter: "Do you support equality?"
Woman: "Absolutely."
Reporter: "That includes national service and the draft."
Woman: "Just not that bit."
@@callak_9974I feel like this is targeted discrimination
"do you think women should be drafted"
"to the military?"
No, to the fucking NFL 🤦🏻
but drafted can mean anything like drafted to college etc so of course not everyone is gonna know it is to military instantly
@@LazzieMazzie WOMAN DETECTED
@@LazzieMazzieStop femxplaining that doesn't even make sense the statistics prove you wrong
@@oldtom-sf7kt imagine thinking am a female lmfao
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@@frequencyoftruth2303 Learn the meanings and uses of the word draft in different contexts, such as plans, military, sports, money, and beer. Find out how to pronounce draft and see synonyms and related words
Korean feminists once said, "we give birth instead of mandatory military service."
Well, clearly they don't
😂😂😂
6:29 has anyone else seen that video of that women who thought that women were smarter than men on average because the female bell curve was taller?
Women want the accountability of a child, the authority of a man, and the advantages of a woman.
Who wouldn't want that tho?
@@ni5439 who gets that? That's the real question.
@@ni5439 real people.
"should women be drafted?"
"no"
"but they deserve equal pay in sports?"
"no comment"
that sums up most women pretty clearly.
what does Sports have to do with being fucking drafted for war????
@@Zesmas physical aptitude dum dum, stop playing games, if women are just as strong as men as feminists say ( depending on the situation of course, schrondinger feminism and all) then they should be drafted, but since they aren't as strong or physically prepared as men they don't, which is why women sports will make less money since it's less competitive and not at the same level as men's sports
The point is they get "equality" in one field but not the other? Seems pretty selective to me, not at all equality.@@Zesmas
Zoomer logic
@@davimedina5165 they make no way because less people watch it, it has little to do with physicality or skill. A WNBA player recently set a record iirc
Partially true only. Women have flooded the corporate ladder. There were no middle managers, VP-s, director level women in 1924. They are all over the place now, which has its own challenged. A male executive would rather hire female middle managers, because they are more submissive and less likely to challenge his decisions or compete with him for his position. Women middle managers would rather hire female reports, as they are all about equality and don't want masculine toxicity (in their mind). In the corporate workplace, as a male, you need to be insanely tame, in order to get by and play the female game of thrones type of backstabbing and gossiping power game. If they need actual subject matter experise, they just hire an outside consultant for the subject matter expertise (usually men), but those can be easily outsourced to 3rd world, like IT etc. The corporate world is all about keeping the status quo and not innovating, which is exactly fits women traits. Just stay on course, don't stick your head out, be submissive with your superiors, don't cause any friction etc. Innovation, creating new things, arguing on actual subject matters, nah, those are all frowned upon, and gets you fired quick, if for some miracle you were hired.
Also women are less likely to ask for a raise or job hop to get a better position, so less hassle for the supervisor position.
"Women shouldn't be drafted... Men and Women aren't equal."
But they're perfectly equal enough to decide who should lead the army, eh?
Equality should mean equal rights and responsibilities, not selective privileges. Men and women may have inherent differences, but that doesn't mean one is superior or inferior to the other.
That's more towards equity than equality no?
@Reflection554 Yes but in the context of this it means the same thing
Why are you *coping* ?
Inherent differences = different
Measure the differences, more efficient = superior
Stop playing mental gymnastics to avoid saying the so patently obvious. ♂ *>* ♀
Same as it ever was. 💊
@@DTreatz Bro got bullied by a girl in school.
@@oldoutlet6946 you mean right now probably lol
The argument I have seen used by some is that they shouldn't, because forcibly drafting men goes against human rights. They take your freedom and send you to risk your life in a war you didn't choose. So equality wouldn't involve forcibly drafting women, but not drafting men forcibly. How enough soldiers could be gathered is another matter.
The issue is the argument stops there. Nothing is done about it. Many feminists will acknowledge inequalities that affect men when they're pointed out to them, but will then act like that's none of their business, even though feminism insists on having a monopoly on the fight for equality and demonizes men's rights activists that do focus on such issues
What human rights does it go against precisely? Serious question. Equality is men and women becoming equal in opportunity, it’s never specified through human rights as they’ve always had equal human rights.
@@Artryom Imagine you're just chilling at home one day and all of a sudden you get a piece of mail telling you that you're drafted.
You have 2 options.
A. Get drafted and potentially risk your life in war
B. refuse the draft and potentially get fined and/or imprisoned.
Doesn't sound like human rights to me
@@deletodraw1944sadly the draft is necessary for the US.
The other option is mandatory service like a lot of other countries do, which most Americans I think would disagree with(but I think it could help a lot of people, but I also kind of disagree with it. At the very least mandatory service should be relatively loose, ie lots of exceptions)
The selective service will likely never be used again, or without dire need for it, or attacks on US soil.
I don't think removing it is smart, it's a system that when it's needed should be available.
@@deletodraw1944 Ye no, that doesn’t answer it at all though, sounds like cope to escape a duty to your country and family. First define human rights and who defends them?
@@Artryom brother there's not need to be so weird about it, objectively telling people they have to fight or be jailed is a human rights violation, that is the objective point of a draft, so that you don't have a choice, because there's no human rights in the factor.
It's not impossible to be objective about something being bad yet necessary, but for some reason you can't admit it's against human rights without feeling like you're "coping" or "trying to escape a duty to your country and family" maybe you should look in the mirror and think about why you're so dense about simple things