Once again Andrew.. Great review. Lately I ONLY buy lamps after watching your assessments.. That Fresnel verdict "The difference between this and others.. THIS ISN'T CRAP!'.. Wish all reviews were that honest and to the point
I was recently looking at buying one of these to replace my Dedolight DLED 7 Bi-Colour (thinking the Forza was heaps brighter)... so was comparing the brightness photometrics again. Because the Forza with the fresnel is 45 degrees at full flood compared to 60 degrees of the Dedo, you would have to move the Forza 60B back to 4.18 metres distance to achieve the same area of coverage as the Dedo at 3 metres. When you do that, the Forza 60B is about 360 Lux (at 5600k) compared to the Dedo at about 290 Lux (at 5600k). Given the Dedo optics are better (and I already have a bunch of accessories) I decided to just stick with the Dedo. This sort of comparison wouldn't be possible without your testing results Andrew, so thanks very much again for your great work. Just thought it was important to mention the brightness comparisons at a matching area of coverage / beam angle.
Just received this light today. All my lights are daylight balanced and was looking for a cheaper bi colour one and this fitted the profile I was looking for, not too expensive, small, lightweight, good light etc and must admit it's very very good! Love the "this isn't crap" too the point!!
Thank you for another excellent review.. I got the daylight version recently but the fresnel was on backorder so it’s good to get the low down on how well that adapter works. Give thanks
I wish you would review the "Nanlite Forza 300B"! You could compare it with the "Nanlite Forza 300" daylight model, with its main competitor, the "Aputure 300X", or with a power equivalent conventional lighting fixture : Maybe a 575W HMI Fresnel or a 2Kw Tungsten Fresnel. I love your reviews, they are the best. Thank you for your work!
Should happen soon, I'm just waiting on them to get the light totally sorted in terms of its final firmware so the all the information is correct. But from my quick play they seem good
@Gaffer & Gear As usual, superb quality here. Your reviews are excellent and so appreciated. Really digging so many of these Nanlite releases and your coverage of them. Thank you!
Thanks for the great review! Already have one in my arsenal which works great for hair lights and slashes on the background. The fan is indeed a bit loud, but I'll never get the angry look of the sound recorder. Just keep in mind that it indeed needs te be further than 2 meters away from any mic. Great video again!
Extremely thorough and helpful review, with a humane pace - thank you. Are you planning on reviewing the Nanlite Forza 300B by any chance (though you’ve done the regular 300 already)? Keep up the valuable work!
Very informative video, i was thinking about purchasing one, but then i found out it outputs a lot less than original forza 60, so its probably better to buy the original one with CTO gels. ( And also original forza 60 is cheaper :) ) Keep up the good work!
Thanks for mentioning the difference in output between the Nanlite daylight and bicolor. I agree it's better to use the original with a gel. How do you gel your light? I just attach it to the reflector with gaff tape! Not very professional and it flaps in the wind! Looking for a better way! Thanks!
Depending on how strong the gel is you might actually lose more brightness compared to the 60B - Gelling a daylight LED to tungsten for example can lose a lot of light and sometimes the colour quality is also reduced. Personally I think bi-colour is better
Excellent review, exactly the kind of information I was looking for, thanks ! I've been disturbed by the quality of your sound though, kind of saturated, you may want to get a better microphone.
Thanks Andrew. Obviously Covid19 has and will put back a lot of firmware upgrades for all manufactures but apparently the China written Phone App is going to be superseded by Nantlites USA phone app at some point. Using a separate Wifi box is very 'old school' and vs the Aputure's phone app it makes Nanlite seem almost amateur in comparison. If I'd say anything to Nanlite, it would be start investing in R'n'D in light cooling technology. COB lights are just getting more and more powerful (Aputure 600 soon!!!!) but the technology behind the cooling implementation especially with Nanlite just seems like an afterthought. A noisy light on set is even worse than a noisy DOP!!!!!
Great review, again :) I have 60D with Bowens adapter for the modifiers. Worth to know, that putting the fresnel for Forza 300/500 with adapter to Forza 60, doenst gives perfect results...Its a lot of "onion" light circles. If you plan to use F60 with fresnel, best solution is to buy to proper one, designed for F60...
I'd be all over the Forza series, from 60 to 500, if these fans weren't an issue. In the custom-built PC space you can get quieter fans for most things by spending 20-40 bucks. I really wish light manufacturers spent a little bit extra to sort these things out...
I especially want them over Aputure products, because the Nanlite daylight kelvins are much bluer, and I live up by the Arctic Circle in Iceland, where daylight is closer to 6000-6500. The 5300-5400 on the C300m2 needs gelling up here to match.
Keen to check these out, added 2 of the regular Forza 60’s to my kit after your review and they have been great, although had to warranty claim one that randomly went up in smoke one day when powering on. But was replaced no trouble at all. The Aputure Nova P300C is due in stock in the coming weeks, are you going to be checking that out? Would love to see some real world comparisons between it and the S30/S60
I have a Nova on the way. Aputure tend to send me gear to review last. I suspect it's because they want to time the releases of the information. Glamor first, hard facts later. How did you find the fan noise on the 60s for your work.
Awesome review once again. I really like your opinion from a professional point of view! Are you planning on testing the new Godox VL300? I'm thinking about getting a 300W COB Keylight for interview work. I got two Forza 60 in my kit already. Aputure 300d ii and Forza 300D look both very tempting but the price tag on the Godox as well :/ I'm just starting my career so I'm thinking about saving longer for Aputure or Forza or getting the Godox and Upgrade later. Would love to hear your opinion. Cheers :)
Many thanks for that, a fascinating review and whole world of technical stuff I didnt know about! As imple question, would you say it is suitable as a continuous light for simple indoor portraits or for fill outside?
Thanks for this review! I bought a Forza 60B with the Fresnel (which is not crap!) and loved the versatility and even loved the light at 30 percent with no fan when close to mics. I'm wondering if you have thoughts on the 300B? And whether your thoughts have changed to the Forza 500 based on the 600 d Pro and the amazing Fresnel attachment. And also just generally if you prefer a 5600 k LED and the advantage of brightness over the bicolour offerings. Things have changed so much so fast, I feel now is a decent time to buy rather than keep renting. So many questions... But amazing reviews! Thank you!
I have 2x 600D which I use with the F10 Fresnels when I need a lot of power, and I still have 2 X Forza 500 in the same van with their Fresnels. The Forza 500 is just so light weight it has more versatility than the 600D. But the 600D is so much brighter. I haven't had a chance to test the 300B yet
Can I ask, did you get round to adapting these for XLR cable? I would love to know how you did that as I am looking at purchasing some of these myself.
thank you Sir. This was great. What would you be your recommendation of the best alternative to this light? Used for both photo and video, both indoors and outdoors without AC power? Forza seems good, except slightly pinkish tint to it. Heard some good things about Godox ML60. I think I will end up with a 35" softbox to that light. Would Forza hold it up well? Thank you and All the best into the New Year!
@@gaffergear I will wait then :))))) hahha thank you for an express reply :)) you live online! take a break :) its great to see you love what you do though ... all the best .. oh and of course with Aputure price tag .... :///
I'm very interested in that ight, I have made contact with them and asked questions about DuV and TM-30 scores at 3200 and 5600, Can it barndoors cut? before I make a urchase, but they are slow to respond. The DMX capabilities of it grabbed my attention, so I torn between these, the x-100 and the bi-colour 60 soon to be released from Aputure.
Thanks so much for your reviews; truly some great information. Much appreciated! How would you compare this Forza 60 w/ the Fresnel attachment to the Good S30 Focusing LED? I want to use the focusing features and barn doors as a key light for some old Hollywood type portraits. Thanks in advance.
This is a fantastic review, thanks a lot! I'm definitely gettin one of those. Would you be willing to share your process (or parts) for the 4 pin power adapter you're talking about? Sounds like a fantastic solution I could try too :-)
Thanks for some great information! I'm also interested in this light for the fresnel abilities. Have you ever used the Lupo 600? I know it's more powerful (and a lot more money), but I'm wondering how the flood/spot focus won the Forza compares to the flood/spot on the Lupo.
I haven't seen the Lupo 600. I would also watch my 60x episode as that is a good focusing unit. And also the episode after is in the project mount for this light
Thanks for the review, how are you feeling about this light 11 months later? Fresnel has held up well? Do you think the fresnel could be stuffed into the case the 60B comes with?
I've still got 4 of them, the fresnel just squeezed into the bag with the light. If you get the projector the light and fresnel all squeeze into the projector bag
@@gaffergear Thanks so much for your reply and the info on the fresnel and bag. I think I am going to go for this. Thanks for the a detailed review, it's such a contribution to the production community. Be well.
So I had a chance to test the forza 60b and it doesn't feel as punchy in real life as it does in the videos I see online. Do you feel it could handle key light duties through an umbrella or diffusion in a very basic travel interview setup? Thanks again for your time and help. I'm sorry to be peppering you with all these questions, it's just that it's hard right now to test during this time we're in and I trust your judgement. Is there a way to buy you a coffee or beer so to speak, a tip jar?
Great! Actually I'm about to purchase my first nanlite. I thought 60 is a bit low so Im considering fs150 for more powerful output.what do you think? I'm on budget anyway
I see that you can't turn the lights off with the remote. But can you dim it all the way to 0 ( for obvious reason to mimic the state of off in order to prolong the life of external batteries)?
Hi Andrew, I've been watching all of your videos, thanks to your immense effort, I Iearned quite a lot, I have a question, I'm still new to lights and want to buy my first proper light, may I please ask if the Nanlite 150 mix panel, if comparing to the Forza series, in terms of brightness level, does it provide similar output level close to the Forza 300? Thanks in advance.
I drilled a hole in the single arm yoke thing of my forza 60 so I could attach it to safety chain on a carabiner. How do you do overhead rigging with the 60 series?
Hey I was wondering if you have any concerns about the longevity of investing in these cheaper LED brands like Nanlite? Even though these lights are super cheap, LED lasts a long time so any investment could be looked at from a long term investment perspective.
I have the opposite concern, if I buy an expensive light, would I get my money back before it's superseded! I see the Forza as a good balance of the two concerns.
Thanks so much forçou reply. At 12:15 you say one would need to invest in something (to avoid spill) but can’t understand (accent). What are you referring to? Also fichou don’t mind? With the fresnel say at 20 degrees how many lux do we have at 4M? Do you have any idea? Or maybe in another words, if you were at dusk at a wedding doing some sunset or twilight photos would this work well (maybe at sunset) with the fresnel at 15/20 degrees?
What is more powerfull light - Forza 60 or Forza 60B ? Nanlite.com say, that Forza 60 can with a reflector at 1 meter 18.000 lux. NanliteUS say 12.000 lux and Forza 60B (by 5600K) 13.000 lux. So what is brighter light by 5600K - Forza 60 or 60B ?
@@gaffergear Thank you. Do you think so or do you know for sure? I really like your work, but in this case it's quite interesting. I logically understand that mono light has more diodes of one color, BUT communication Nanlite did not convince me much (e-shops so far show 12,000 lux, less than the Forza 60B) and a few users have told me that the Forza 60 does not light more than the Forza 60B. I'm looking for some convincing evidence.
Very confused - I just got the F11 fresnel for my Forza 60D and the barn doors create very visible multi-shadows while this doesn't seem to be the case in your video - any idea what might be going on there?
I'm not sure. It could be a distance thing, most fresnels will project the lens pattern if you are just the right distance from a wall, hardly ever happens.
@@gaffergear the strange part is I was seeing them at what looked like a similar distance to what you were using them at. I wonder if the design has changed at all..
@@gaffergear thank you for the response! Would I be looking at something like the 200 or 300 to get something close on a budget that can still be powered by 14v v mount?
Hi, first, thank you for your video. I saw that you have another video with the forza 60 "mk1". Is the forza 60b less bright than the 60 mk1, a the same CCT?
Hi. Really love your reviews since I am a little light lover myself. I actually own a forza 60 and the fernel attachment. But when I tested the bar doors I was surprised that I couldn't make a clean slash as you demonstrated. Slash stays a bit round and the light that hit the smaller barndoors give off multiple shades. But maybe this works differently on the forza 60b which I now decide on to purchase
Hey andrew, are you buying any to rent out or on your main packages? Bit hesitant with the greenshift really. They'll probably go greener over time, although they are very cheap.
I'm all for cost effective lights but I just hate having to put minus green over new LED panels, shall we say a lot of DOP's are very selective and will shout Skypanel, Dedo or Arri at the first problem (sigh)
@@gaffergear Thanks Andrew. Great channel BTW. Pointing all my sparks and NFTS students to it. Honest reviews without all the music and FX crap. Plus I like your no nonsense style and going beyond people's branding brainwash
I'm buying 6 of these. To be honest I'm getting them as a filler light, with the intention to sell them should something better come along in this size that is bi-colour. I think the price point enables me to do this. I found when I dialled in 5300 it was closer to 5600 and not as green. It was definitely under a 1/8th correction, but problem is some lights are slightly pink, so it could make this look more wrong than it is when put in the mix.
Once again Andrew.. Great review.
Lately I ONLY buy lamps after watching your assessments..
That Fresnel verdict "The difference between this and others.. THIS ISN'T CRAP!'.. Wish all reviews were that honest and to the point
By far the most competent lighting reviews on CZcams.
I'm more than happy with the Forza line and this one goes to my bag, thank you for the excellent review.
Real nice and detailed review. Thank you for being so informative.
I was recently looking at buying one of these to replace my Dedolight DLED 7 Bi-Colour (thinking the Forza was heaps brighter)... so was comparing the brightness photometrics again. Because the Forza with the fresnel is 45 degrees at full flood compared to 60 degrees of the Dedo, you would have to move the Forza 60B back to 4.18 metres distance to achieve the same area of coverage as the Dedo at 3 metres. When you do that, the Forza 60B is about 360 Lux (at 5600k) compared to the Dedo at about 290 Lux (at 5600k). Given the Dedo optics are better (and I already have a bunch of accessories) I decided to just stick with the Dedo.
This sort of comparison wouldn't be possible without your testing results Andrew, so thanks very much again for your great work. Just thought it was important to mention the brightness comparisons at a matching area of coverage / beam angle.
You provide us with all things important, that was such a great work !
Thank you, and bravo. ✋😊👌
Wow, this is just a fantastic review and channel, brilliant. Thank you so much for your time and effort spent on this :)
Always fantastic, practical and detailed reviews.
I really like your work for this channel!
What a stellar review man! straight to the point, detailed, organized
Just received this light today. All my lights are daylight balanced and was looking for a cheaper bi colour one and this fitted the profile I was looking for, not too expensive, small, lightweight, good light etc and must admit it's very very good! Love the "this isn't crap" too the point!!
Thank you for another excellent review.. I got the daylight version recently but the fresnel was on backorder so it’s good to get the low down on how well that adapter works. Give thanks
I wish you would review the "Nanlite Forza 300B"!
You could compare it with the "Nanlite Forza 300" daylight model, with its main competitor, the "Aputure 300X", or with a power equivalent conventional lighting fixture : Maybe a 575W HMI Fresnel or a 2Kw Tungsten Fresnel.
I love your reviews, they are the best. Thank you for your work!
Should happen soon, I'm just waiting on them to get the light totally sorted in terms of its final firmware so the all the information is correct.
But from my quick play they seem good
@Gaffer & Gear As usual, superb quality here. Your reviews are excellent and so appreciated. Really digging so many of these Nanlite releases and your coverage of them. Thank you!
Thanks for the great review! Already have one in my arsenal which works great for hair lights and slashes on the background. The fan is indeed a bit loud, but I'll never get the angry look of the sound recorder. Just keep in mind that it indeed needs te be further than 2 meters away from any mic. Great video again!
I'm suprised that it doesn't have messy shadows with that LED array... looks like a great value light... thanks for the review!
It's such a compact LED array, tighter than any small globe.
This is such a good review. Thanks mate you're a legend!
Extremely thorough and helpful review, with a humane pace - thank you. Are you planning on reviewing the Nanlite Forza 300B by any chance (though you’ve done the regular 300 already)? Keep up the valuable work!
At some point. I'm just letting them iron out the final firmware, otherwise my episode will be out of date.
Very informative video, i was thinking about purchasing one, but then i found out it outputs a lot less than original forza 60, so its probably better to buy the original one with CTO gels. ( And also original forza 60 is cheaper :) )
Keep up the good work!
Thanks for mentioning the difference in output between the Nanlite daylight and bicolor. I agree it's better to use the original with a gel.
How do you gel your light? I just attach it to the reflector with gaff tape! Not very professional and it flaps in the wind!
Looking for a better way!
Thanks!
Depending on how strong the gel is you might actually lose more brightness compared to the 60B - Gelling a daylight LED to tungsten for example can lose a lot of light and sometimes the colour quality is also reduced. Personally I think bi-colour is better
Excellent Review 👌🏽
great review as always
Excellent review, exactly the kind of information I was looking for, thanks ! I've been disturbed by the quality of your sound though, kind of saturated, you may want to get a better microphone.
Thanks Andrew. Obviously Covid19 has and will put back a lot of firmware upgrades for all manufactures but apparently the China written Phone App is going to be superseded by Nantlites USA phone app at some point. Using a separate Wifi box is very 'old school' and vs the Aputure's phone app it makes Nanlite seem almost amateur in comparison. If I'd say anything to Nanlite, it would be start investing in R'n'D in light cooling technology. COB lights are just getting more and more powerful (Aputure 600 soon!!!!) but the technology behind the cooling implementation especially with Nanlite just seems like an afterthought. A noisy light on set is even worse than a noisy DOP!!!!!
The Forza 200 has a Bluetooth receiver, so at some point a change must be coming.
Great review, again :) I have 60D with Bowens adapter for the modifiers. Worth to know, that putting the fresnel for Forza 300/500 with adapter to Forza 60, doenst gives perfect results...Its a lot of "onion" light circles. If you plan to use F60 with fresnel, best solution is to buy to proper one, designed for F60...
Good tip, I just reviewed the 200 which has a smaller COB and the optics aren't perfect on the fresnel, not bad, but a little dark in the centre
Good to know.. thanks
@@gaffergear Would love to see a review of the 200! Any plans to post a video soon?
@@NicoOfCourse next episode
The battery grip can actually install on the 004 tripod and mafa
I'd be all over the Forza series, from 60 to 500, if these fans weren't an issue. In the custom-built PC space you can get quieter fans for most things by spending 20-40 bucks. I really wish light manufacturers spent a little bit extra to sort these things out...
I especially want them over Aputure products, because the Nanlite daylight kelvins are much bluer, and I live up by the Arctic Circle in Iceland, where daylight is closer to 6000-6500. The 5300-5400 on the C300m2 needs gelling up here to match.
Keen to check these out, added 2 of the regular Forza 60’s to my kit after your review and they have been great, although had to warranty claim one that randomly went up in smoke one day when powering on. But was replaced no trouble at all.
The Aputure Nova P300C is due in stock in the coming weeks, are you going to be checking that out? Would love to see some real world comparisons between it and the S30/S60
I have a Nova on the way. Aputure tend to send me gear to review last. I suspect it's because they want to time the releases of the information. Glamor first, hard facts later.
How did you find the fan noise on the 60s for your work.
Awesome review once again. I really like your opinion from a professional point of view! Are you planning on testing the new Godox VL300? I'm thinking about getting a 300W COB Keylight for interview work. I got two Forza 60 in my kit already. Aputure 300d ii and Forza 300D look both very tempting but the price tag on the Godox as well :/ I'm just starting my career so I'm thinking about saving longer for Aputure or Forza or getting the Godox and Upgrade later. Would love to hear your opinion. Cheers :)
Hit Godox up and suggest me for review.
Gaffer & Gear I think you just closed the deal for me with your latest video about the Forza 200 :D
good review! thanks !
Many thanks for that, a fascinating review and whole world of technical stuff I didnt know about! As imple question, would you say it is suitable as a continuous light for simple indoor portraits or for fill outside?
Fill outside, maybe, maybe not, gut feeling is no. Indoor portraits, yes
Thanks for this review! I bought a Forza 60B with the Fresnel (which is not crap!) and loved the versatility and even loved the light at 30 percent with no fan when close to mics. I'm wondering if you have thoughts on the 300B? And whether your thoughts have changed to the Forza 500 based on the 600 d Pro and the amazing Fresnel attachment. And also just generally if you prefer a 5600 k LED and the advantage of brightness over the bicolour offerings. Things have changed so much so fast, I feel now is a decent time to buy rather than keep renting. So many questions... But amazing reviews! Thank you!
I have 2x 600D which I use with the F10 Fresnels when I need a lot of power, and I still have 2 X Forza 500 in the same van with their Fresnels. The Forza 500 is just so light weight it has more versatility than the 600D. But the 600D is so much brighter.
I haven't had a chance to test the 300B yet
@@gaffergear Thanks for the reply. The 600d and fresnel/barndoors looks pretty amazing. But so does the nanlite. Thanks so much. I'll keep watching!
Can I ask, did you get round to adapting these for XLR cable? I would love to know how you did that as I am looking at purchasing some of these myself.
thank you Sir. This was great. What would you be your recommendation of the best alternative to this light? Used for both photo and video, both indoors and outdoors without AC power? Forza seems good, except slightly pinkish tint to it. Heard some good things about Godox ML60. I think I will end up with a 35" softbox to that light. Would Forza hold it up well? Thank you and All the best into the New Year!
Soon Aputure will have a 60 released, with killer optics.
@@gaffergear I will wait then :))))) hahha thank you for an express reply :)) you live online! take a break :) its great to see you love what you do though ... all the best .. oh and of course with Aputure price tag .... :///
Thank you for this review. Do you think it is possible to test the intellytech light cannon x-100 projector soon?
I'm very interested in that ight, I have made contact with them and asked questions about DuV and TM-30 scores at 3200 and 5600, Can it barndoors cut? before I make a urchase, but they are slow to respond.
The DMX capabilities of it grabbed my attention, so I torn between these, the x-100 and the bi-colour 60 soon to be released from Aputure.
is the fresnel standard bowens mount or is it proprietary with forza 60?
Thanks so much for your reviews; truly some great information. Much appreciated! How would you compare this Forza 60 w/ the Fresnel attachment to the Good S30 Focusing LED? I want to use the focusing features and barn doors as a key light for some old Hollywood type portraits. Thanks in advance.
Godox S30 has slightly sharper cuts very much like a dedo
This is a fantastic review, thanks a lot! I'm definitely gettin one of those.
Would you be willing to share your process (or parts) for the 4 pin power adapter you're talking about? Sounds like a fantastic solution I could try too :-)
In the end I didn't bother, I got some D-Tap to DC adaptors and some DC to DC cables.
@@gaffergear Oh I didn't even think that could work. Great advice, thanks a lot!
is that the fan of the light running in the background?
Yes, I always review with the fan running.
Did you try 2.1x5.5mm DC Power Extension Cable on 60B?
Yep, no problem.
Hello, thank you for this great review. Could you please tell me did you meter lux with fresnel on maximum spot or maximum wide?
Unless I did both flood and spot, then it would be maximum flood.
Thanks for some great information! I'm also interested in this light for the fresnel abilities. Have you ever used the Lupo 600? I know it's more powerful (and a lot more money), but I'm wondering how the flood/spot focus won the Forza compares to the flood/spot on the Lupo.
I haven't seen the Lupo 600.
I would also watch my 60x episode as that is a good focusing unit. And also the episode after is in the project mount for this light
Will be there a review of Forza FS-300? I'm curious how shadow behave with those multiple led diodes.
Not sure at this stage, Ive got lots of lights to get through first
Thanks for the review, how are you feeling about this light 11 months later? Fresnel has held up well? Do you think the fresnel could be stuffed into the case the 60B comes with?
I've still got 4 of them, the fresnel just squeezed into the bag with the light.
If you get the projector the light and fresnel all squeeze into the projector bag
@@gaffergear Thanks so much for your reply and the info on the fresnel and bag. I think I am going to go for this. Thanks for the a detailed review, it's such a contribution to the production community. Be well.
So I had a chance to test the forza 60b and it doesn't feel as punchy in real life as it does in the videos I see online. Do you feel it could handle key light duties through an umbrella or diffusion in a very basic travel interview setup? Thanks again for your time and help. I'm sorry to be peppering you with all these questions, it's just that it's hard right now to test during this time we're in and I trust your judgement. Is there a way to buy you a coffee or beer so to speak, a tip jar?
Great! Actually I'm about to purchase my first nanlite. I thought 60 is a bit low so Im considering fs150 for more powerful output.what do you think? I'm on budget anyway
I have one sitting in a box for review, hopefully soon
I see that you can't turn the lights off with the remote.
But can you dim it all the way to 0 ( for obvious reason to mimic the state of off in order to prolong the life of external batteries)?
Yes you can dim to zero, but it won't keep the previous setting
Hi Andrew, I've been watching all of your videos, thanks to your immense effort, I Iearned quite a lot, I have a question, I'm still new to lights and want to buy my first proper light, may I please ask if the Nanlite 150 mix panel, if comparing to the Forza series, in terms of brightness level, does it provide similar output level close to the Forza 300? Thanks in advance.
The mix panel is about 1800 lux at 3m
The Forza 300 with reflector is about 5500 lux at 3m
@@gaffergear Thank you for answering, cheers
love my Forza 60, I want to attach it to a v mount to make it the ultimate portable video light, what DTAP to DC cable does it use?
Nanlite sell one, but you can get generic ones of e-bay. I just measured the diameter of the DC plug and did a search.
I think it 5.5x2.1mm jack
206 lux, what did you get with the daylight only version? love your channel, anymore shoots with break downs?
You would have to check that episode, but it was equivalent to a 1K from memory, so this is about 65% I would guess.
I drilled a hole in the single arm yoke thing of my forza 60 so I could attach it to safety chain on a carabiner. How do you do overhead rigging with the 60 series?
That's a good point, I never bought a 60 but it sounds like you have a good solution.
Hey I was wondering if you have any concerns about the longevity of investing in these cheaper LED brands like Nanlite? Even though these lights are super cheap, LED lasts a long time so any investment could be looked at from a long term investment perspective.
I have the opposite concern, if I buy an expensive light, would I get my money back before it's superseded!
I see the Forza as a good balance of the two concerns.
@@gaffergear that's true, it's probably more likely the technology is outdated before anything breaks. Good point, thank you again.
Being a bicolour means that if you are using normal day light temperature you will have less output power?
On this unit yes
Thanks so much forçou reply. At 12:15 you say one would need to invest in something (to avoid spill) but can’t understand (accent). What are you referring to?
Also fichou don’t mind? With the fresnel say at 20 degrees how many lux do we have at 4M? Do you have any idea? Or maybe in another words, if you were at dusk at a wedding doing some sunset or twilight photos would this work well (maybe at sunset) with the fresnel at 15/20 degrees?
@@pyroBlastM "Cine Foil" or "Back Wrap"
Does the fan get louder relative to output? Like will the fan be louder at 100% brightness compared to 70% or is it the same?
Good question, the fan is a single speed.
Phone app works great now, without extra box....
Last time I looked at the phone app I was surprised at how much it had improved since this review
Thanks for the review. Question, what’s the light output compared to the original forza 60?
About 65%
Gaffer & Gear thanks man.
Hi, can you tell me what is the real diameter of fresnel glass?
I keep forgetting to measure, but I'll bet around to it this weekend
What is more powerfull light - Forza 60 or Forza 60B ? Nanlite.com say, that Forza 60 can with a reflector at 1 meter 18.000 lux. NanliteUS say 12.000 lux and Forza 60B (by 5600K) 13.000 lux. So what is brighter light by 5600K - Forza 60 or 60B ?
The 60, mono colour is always brighter
@@gaffergear Thank you. Do you think so or do you know for sure? I really like your work, but in this case it's quite interesting. I logically understand that mono light has more diodes of one color, BUT communication Nanlite did not convince me much (e-shops so far show 12,000 lux, less than the Forza 60B) and a few users have told me that the Forza 60 does not light more than the Forza 60B. I'm looking for some convincing evidence.
@@tomasadameccom I have a review on the 60 mono light about a year before with the 300.
Measurements are in that video
Very confused - I just got the F11 fresnel for my Forza 60D and the barn doors create very visible multi-shadows while this doesn't seem to be the case in your video - any idea what might be going on there?
I'm not sure. It could be a distance thing, most fresnels will project the lens pattern if you are just the right distance from a wall, hardly ever happens.
@@gaffergear the strange part is I was seeing them at what looked like a similar distance to what you were using them at. I wonder if the design has changed at all..
@@adamweinberg5336 that's very odd, I would assume something has changed in that case.
Hey Andrew, Do you feel that this would be bright enough with the fresnel to punch light through a window into a room?
As sunlight, not even close
@@gaffergear thank you for the response! Would I be looking at something like the 200 or 300 to get something close on a budget that can still be powered by 14v v mount?
Hi, first, thank you for your video.
I saw that you have another video with the forza 60 "mk1". Is the forza 60b less bright than the 60 mk1, a the same CCT?
Yes about 40% less
Hi. Really love your reviews since I am a little light lover myself. I actually own a forza 60 and the fernel attachment. But when I tested the bar doors I was surprised that I couldn't make a clean slash as you demonstrated. Slash stays a bit round and the light that hit the smaller barndoors give off multiple shades. But maybe this works differently on the forza 60b which I now decide on to purchase
@@edwinvandoorn3491 are you in flood?
@@gaffergear hi Andrew. Yes I had it on max flood. Maybe there is difference between the 60 and the 60b since the 60 is probably brighter?
@@edwinvandoorn3491 the fresnel should work on both. It was designed for the original 60.
Very odd.
Hey andrew, are you buying any to rent out or on your main packages? Bit hesitant with the greenshift really. They'll probably go greener over time, although they are very cheap.
I'm all for cost effective lights but I just hate having to put minus green over new LED panels, shall we say a lot of DOP's are very selective and will shout Skypanel, Dedo or Arri at the first problem (sigh)
@@wernervanpeppen4873 don't run a meter over a 3 year old skypanel
@@gaffergear Thanks Andrew. Great channel BTW. Pointing all my sparks and NFTS students to it. Honest reviews without all the music and FX crap. Plus I like your no nonsense style and going beyond people's branding brainwash
I'm buying 6 of these. To be honest I'm getting them as a filler light, with the intention to sell them should something better come along in this size that is bi-colour.
I think the price point enables me to do this.
I found when I dialled in 5300 it was closer to 5600 and not as green. It was definitely under a 1/8th correction, but problem is some lights are slightly pink, so it could make this look more wrong than it is when put in the mix.
@@gaffergear do you find most LED's lose colour accuracy after a few years? Shame to hear about the Skypanels!
This led is RGB?
Bi-colour, WW (white and white). It mixes warm white and cool white emitters together.
is this brighter than forza 60 daylight?
About 65% the brightness
It would be better to color gel daylight
@@andugo I would have to check, but I thing I would be brighter than a full CTB. But not by much.
@@gaffergear So the original daylight version is brighter than this one?
@@EleazarGray sorry Elli.
I got the wrong video. This is 65% the brightness of the daylight only Forza 60
you should get affiliate links for these products and make money off us buying them! thank you for all your info
Im torn over doing that because it takes business away from local suppliers and distributors who i know are doing it tough.
Nanlite FS-300....