UNSC Orion-class assault carrier COMPLETE Breakdown (Halo Ship Lore)
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This complete breakdown of the UNSC Orion-class assault carrier from the Halo universe will show you why this was a beloved ship during the Human-Insurrectionist Wars and Covenant Wars.
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The UNSC really know how to make some of the best looking and most badass ships in Sci-fi.
I know sad that they couldn’t hang with the covenant unless in overwhelming numbers
Hrm. .yes....
for Most's current era choice of surface level fashion anyways, Etc.
I remember seeing similar stuff in Call of Duty Infinite Warfare, the black sheep of the franchise with surprisingly interesting spaceship design.
Shame it wasn't well received, could have worked as its own series separate from the CoD moniker.
Yeah but also tied with that space bureaucracy "if you're not with us you're against us" politics and way of thinking, just read the novels bro. You'll all never trust the UNSC after that.
Yup and ones that make since not overly stupid with clear weaknesses only thing is that had to face a for with far better tech
Just wanted to note, the scale chart at 1:02 is entirely outdated. The "Orion" that is circled is the non-canon Artemis Class, which was originally called the Orion before fleet battles came out with their own new design. Also the cradle class is near-officially scaled at 1.8 kilometers, which is much more reasonable than the 13 kilometer behemoth.
It's old fan work, I remember that shit from back in the day
Id say the cadle class being 8kms or more is sensible
Its a logistics ship with the role of moble drydock. Suck shios are almost always larger than any of their military counterparts
Here's your daily reminder that the Forward Unto Dawn changed from a Charon-Class frigate in Halo 3 to a Strident-Class frigate in Halo 4.
No it didnt. That was simply an artstyle change and is not canon. In canon, it remains the same Charon-class light frigate.
@@saintoliver9276 Shuddup nerd...
No it didn't. The model change was a result in the change of art style and it was felt the Charon was too small for the planned playspace.
In universe, it's the same Charon as seen in Halo 3.
Regardless as depicted in the first mission of halo 4 the dawn (as a strident) was several times larger than the pillar of autumn for some reason
@@stephanmorales2748to be fair, the ship we see in game in canon actually should be larger
One small error in the fighter compliment is that the Darter is not a Fighter Craft, it is a Supply Shuttle meant for bringing supplies to bases established on the planets surface
The UNSC ships are well-grounded in their design in terms of doctrine and hard-science (minus the FTL drive). Thank you for the high-quality informative video
Looking foward to the vidoes of the Covenant ships especially the CAS (Kerel-pattern/Syfon-pattern/Sh'wada-pattern) Assault Carrier and CCS-class/Ket-pattern battlecruisers as they are symbols of the Covenant
*Halo sounds intensifying*
You have incorrectly cited that the Mk 5 SMAC on the ODPs have muzzle velocity as being 40% the speed of light when in reality the velocity is 4% speed or 12000kp/s.
It is said that they go 4/10th lightspeed
Lol nevermind ur right, I've forums and other CZcamsrs say 4/10ths but the quote is "point four-tenths"
@@MetaNerdzLore it happens, all we try and do is help with that.
Truly thorough and detailed knowledge of lore. And by the way, this lore is so complex and realistic that I can only think of it as soft disclosure in some way. Am I the only one that thinks that? Should I not have mentioned it? 😉 Great video.
Sinoviet just reminds me of Grumman. Sure they made your friendly neighborhood USPS delivery truck, but they also made the Lunar Module and missiles.
I noticed you seemed to have had some information from fanon. There is no UNSC frontier command
Great video, as much as I love Star Wars and your content, it’s always nice to see some Halo.
Great video!
Now that is what I call a quality halo breakdown!
idk, mistakes within the first minute. The first infographic had an Artemis-class instead of an Orion-class
I'm curious how a unsc Battlegroup lead by one of these would fair against a Imperial Star Destroyer?
It would really depend on what the battle group was made of and if we are talking pre war or post war UNSC. The bigger issue is pre or post war. Because post war the UNSC had access to forerunner styled shields. As for weapons go I would personally give it to the Orion. Mostly because of the sheer power the MAC canons used by the UNSC produce. Installation 00 has a video breaking down how crazy these weapons really are. I don't think the missiles and other weapons would be the major threat to the ISD however 1 possibly two Mac rounds at most would likely gut an ISD. Now the benefit is the ISD isn't maneuverable to dodge one. The other wild card would need to be a break down of how far the MAC can reach compared to a turbo laser. Then you add a battle group firing at least three MAC rounds in a row possibly up to 9 depending on the UNSC ships being used and the fact that UNSC fighters had the option to use nuclear weapons I think it would go to the UNSC. Granted I think the UNSC would suffer some major damage losing 1 if not 2 ships in their battle group. Also all UNSC warships had smart AI on board.
@@LMG1792 very true. However I think the ISDs Weapons could and likely would be more than capable of Damaging or destroying the UNSC ships. It would really come down to who shot first, or had the ability to shoot first. I love Installation 00, and Metanerdz. Metanerdz gets in detail but Installation 00 is on a whole other level.
@@jasonchristensenjr.6237 Issue would be is range with how UNSC ships fight beyond BVR in novels and etc aside for artistic license/contextual events in games/visual adaptations. While ISDs consistent fight literally like its the age of sail or WW1/2 style. So if its close then ISDs have fair chance unless nukes are involved but long range then they're a gonna 1000%.
@@pkyboi937 if we go by official armaments then the ISD would vaporize any UNSC ship in close range even if nukes were involved, as the power of their turbolasers is rated to be in the teratons (this is absolutely ridiculous and not portrayed in any SW media, but thats what the lore says) and they can fire a continuous barrage from dozens of similarly powerful batteries
Stuff we never see anyway and bunch of BS.
Gamma Company Mark hasn't done this Ship yet I don't think.
He has
Lets put in perspective just how bad Bungie and 343 were with naval guns in the efforts to sound cool, for instance 279mm is the metric equivalent of 10"-11" main naval gun batteries on ww2 heavy cruisers and yet some how fires a 36cal= 9mm pistol round 🤦🏻♂️🤣, i love halo lore but this gets me every time
'-just how bad Bungo and 34-'.
Especially bungo (now usually the majority of the non-Lore ones over there still) in these Days: Yes. Tragically.
apparently those caliber stats came from a fan lore site I didn't realize they wove their own info into the official lore, so not 343's fault. But I'm sure there could be other things lol
i think the calibers number is related to barrel length
TL/DR: the measurements for bore diameter are inconsistent or wrong, and I’m whining about it (and explaining why)
When referring to the diameter of a firearm’s bore, “cal”, as in caliber is usually used as a stand-in for hundredths of an inch. I.e. 45 caliber is roughly .45 inches. Caliber can be in millimeters, but it is usually specified. 9mm caliber is often just called 9mm.
All that said, the use of “mm / caliber” in this video is either redundant (if by cal you mean caliber in mm), or wrong. 50mm is 1.96 caliber, not “50 cal” (.50” caliber). Other measurements of bore diameter likewise don’t make sense, and usually aren’t consistent across measurements.
I know I’m being pedantic but it was bothering me :/
'-I know I'm being pedantic but it was bothering me-'.
no. you shared your own in here when it comes for Lore purposes at least, yes. do not worry much there, man.
Actually thank you for this it was confusing me too but I looked at multiple sources for this thing and they all said it and I go down so many rabbit holes making these and lose time on things that end up being correct in the lore, that I just went with it even though I was still confused too
I think it would be safe to assume that this uses the big gun version of the word caliber. Which means that it actually refers to barrel length with respect to bore diameter rather than referring to it directly. For example the 120mm 44 caliber gun as used on the M1 Abrams is 5.3m long, or roughly 120mm x44. For another example both the North Carolina class and the Iowa class battleships use 16 inch guns, But the NCs use Mk. 6 16”/45 caliber guns as opposed to the Iowa’s Mk. 7 16”/50 caliber guns, the Mk.6 is 720” long and the Mk.7 is 800” long or 16” x45 and 16” x50 respectively.
Edit: I accidentally referred to the M256 L/44 gun on the M1 as an L/55
@@weirddudes5543 Ah, thank you! I’ll still be confused each time I see it, but now I know why
Great video as per usual, glad to see you cover halo again though. It be nice to see you cover other franchises other then Star Wars
1:05 that is the Artemis which is quite literally the most bad ass cruiser the UNSC could have!
I wonder, are you going to have more UNSC breakdown? Like ODPs an other UNSac capital ships.
What space sim game is being shown in the ship to ship combat clips?
glad to see you branching out into other franchises
You can bet Star-ship grade steel is used on those man-hole covers
Love me some halo lore from one of my favorite lore Masters! Thanks!
Would like to see you do a overview on the planet Reach!
that would be epic, I will put it on the list
What are the game footage from?
Halo lore rocks!!
Did you pull a lot of this stuff from a fan wiki?
Loving you covering Halo content. Cant believe I get both Halo and Star Wars here!
Can you do the Halberd Class Destroyer?
No
Please make more Halo content. Love your videos
It's nice that you're covering other ships that are not just Star wars. Will you do Mass effect shipped breakdown videos as well?.
Yeah i have a bunch of those scripts written too
Who else loves when this dude dose detailed ship videos like this
It was so weird seeing captain jacks space engineers battle in this, I thought I clicked on another video lol!
Great breakdown tho dude, it amazes me how much depth and detail was put into this ship
I'd love to see some stuff on destiny if there is anything haha
'I'd love to see some stuff-'.
(Simply put.) Unfortunately.
'-if there is anything-'.
Hrm.
-on that choice of wording of yours- -there, I could not tell Which. I wonder....-
@@CaptainPilipinas well I'm not 100% how deep the destiny lore goes on ship, corp and weapons specs etc haha that's all I was saying
@@MaxTrogmore42 'well I'm not 100% sure how deep the destiny lore goes on-'.
(I was wrong, for now, on my 3rd line there from earlier. I Thought it was something else).
(at any case):
'well I'm not 100% sure how deep the destiny lore goe-'.
I...Unfortunately don't blame such like you for example. (Simply put for now).
such big causes for the state of that vast (Lore-wise, only still. Sadly) franchise's being at fault for why. still to this Day, etc.
'-I'm not 100% sure how deep the destiny lore-'.
the main Destiny omniverses'/franchise's is such a formidable one. (Lore-wise only still Sadly).
I love the UNSC Naval aesthetics pre-2558, and i just wanna give a shoutout to the Spiritial Successor, of the O.G. GOAT.
That being the Autumn-Class Heavy Cruiser, built post-2553.
They're just such a wicked looking design.
The Autumn II, she's probably the coolest looking, and, for her size, most armoured and armed vessel in the UNSC navy, bar the Infinity-Class Supercarriers.
The Red Flag inspired weapons package, new dual reactors, modified MAC system, enlarged Marine capacity, extra armour, SHIELDS, and, their whole design based upon (and even built on some few of) the old Halcyon-Class Light Cruiser design, means these things can take more of a beating to their hulls than any other ship the UNSC has.
Something like 80% of her internal hull structure can be redundantly shut off/locked down, if made inhospitable or compromised through damage.
Bruh, the Autumn-class heavy cruisers only carry 45 marines each with a little over 200 ODSTs. The Halcyon-class cruisers can carry over a thousand marines and ODSTs each.
@@SithFTW4072
ODSTs are still part of the UNSC's Marine Corps, sort of like how Force Recon units are still part of the USMC.
However, I may have read wrong, but I thought it was 2,000 ODSTs per Autumn-Class, but hey, I may have got the 0's the wrong way around XD
The reason the “mini Mac” is called a Mac is because 343 didn’t put that much thought into the lore and the differences
more halo ships, I am hoping this channel eventually evolves to cover all forms of sci fi space ships from many different sci fi settings
It is worth noting that many of the details in this video are taken from the Halo Fanon fanfiction website, and are not official canon.
don’t tell them! you’re ruining our schemes!
theyre from halopedia actually. Which is the official halo wiki.
@@saintoliver9276 I'm one of the administrators on Halopedia. This is information we do not have on our page (for example, the thickness of the Titanium plate). You can check yourself - much of the information in this video is sourced from the Halo Fanon page written by Sev40.
@@saintoliver9276 bacon is an admin there. He’d know better than you.
@@trogo3402 oh shit my fault..I'm js used to ppl not taking the source of the lore. If that makes sense lol.
Thanks betterhelp
8:03 what are boers???????????????
Not that I don’t enjoy the halo stuff but did you finally run out of Star Wars stuff to break down? 😅
How would this fare against a Starcraft Battlecruiser?
Mmm love these Starship breakdowns...
Got more coming
@@MetaNerdzLorekeep em coming!
@@MetaNerdzLore game name?
I’m not super into halo lore, so correct me if i’m wrong, but it seems like using a 16m missile with a 1000kg warhead going dozens of km/s is massive overkill for a fighter.
yes bro
Can you do a video on the spirit of fire?
You know for a while i forgot you did halo lore videos 😅
❤
Doesn't .50 cal mean 12.7 mm, not 50?
Dark vader castle next please
Interesting
Someone please tell me what game the in-game footage is from
I was just imagining an Orian class assault carrier with the tech and firepower of an Infinity class super carrier (including the 10 Frigates and 4 super Macs)
Just to note for everyone watching the majority of this videos info comes from the halo fanon page and is not credible.
'-note for everyone watching the majority of this videos info comes from the halo fanon page and-'.
(meanwhile, similarly but even more Frustratively Bigger concerning with another franchise's....).
What’s the background music I must know
it is from a stock music website, summertime madness
Be sure to give Sins of the Prophets crew the love they deserve for quite a few of the images of this and several others
Definity! I had put some links in the description people can check out
Hey Metanerdz, have you ever thought about doing a collaboration with Instillation 00? I think you 2 could make some really great videos together
I would love that, but I don't really do collabs not for any reason other than I am just very unorganized, these are not planned out far in the future but I should try to change that
@@MetaNerdzLore 👍👍
Lol I like the inclusion of the Mass effect: Reeper and the Star Wars: ISD in the size ref picture.
What game is he playing for the ship to ship battles?
Bump
The gameplay at 8:14 is Sins of The Prophets(SoTP), which is a total halo conversion mod for Sins of a Solar Empire(SoaSE).
The gameplay at 15:05 is most likely Operation: Homefront, a mod for Homeworld.
@@Eridani_II I will worship you
There are some links in the description that'll help
So close to 420k subs. lol
It looks similar to the Scirocco-class from The Expanse
This really should've been a post-war ship. It would've made sense for the UNSC to construct a new, advanced, purpose built assault carrier with a built in manufacturing plant after seeing how successful the refit civilian Phoenix-class colony ships like the Spirit of Fire were during the war.
Do Gundam next!
The human military ships in halo make zero sense,as the military hardware.
The ground forces are more primitive then today armies.
There's no reason for them to not use armies and fleets of robots.
'-,as the military hardware.-'.
'-no reason for them to not use armies and fleets of robots.'.
yes. it is true in most areas of the halo universe's and galaxy's version of Humankind. even in their current post-pre-/during Human-forerunner war era level Civilian applications of such automations.
....
Hrm. even such like the now small post-GA era (GA Eliksni's)/Collapse era Fallen's have such things in the majority of their non-automated pirate-y armies (mostly out of desperation unlike what they have once used to have).
When will we get a yoda life video
I remember reading something about the UNSC testing these fucking things on Chief for "Science" more testing of Halsey's Armor and the AI in combination. Mofo out-ran a MAC round just barely. The crazy A hole hesitated a bit on purpose and blew one of his Achillies in the end.
SPACE!!!
(hrm. yes....
....
Wastefully not so much for those still 'recent' returning Sirius era colonists, yes?
what is Left of them now anyways**).
Wait did Nasa Actually send an operation to Sirius?
@@feralprocessor9853 'Wait did Nasa Actually send-'.
(Heh).
'::SARCASM. DETECTED.::' - SUBMIND HADES.
(....I....think?).
Why did I even ask.
@@feralprocessor9853 ....
(that....was not some rhetorical sarcasm from you?).
lol, thought this was a GammaCompanyMark video
Wait, I think you got the MAC speeds wrong. Can't the orbital platforms' projectiles reach 4% the speed of light, and not 40%?
Yeah seems like it is 4 percent not 40
You shouldn't work with better help they got caught selling personal information to companies for targeted ads
Funny I just started watching halo games I'm on halo 2
i didnt get catfished this time
What does this mean lol?
I see your nose.
🍔
Mmmm. Beesechurger
I hate what halo 6 did to the unsc .
Pretty sick of hearing about halo lore honestly. But this was pretty cool