This 2014 Phaeton Might Be Better Than NEW
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- čas přidán 11. 04. 2022
- Often I'm asked what is a good RV to buy. It's difficult to answer as everyone's needs are different. But this 2014 Phaeton from Tiffin is a ery good unit and I'll try to explain what I like about it and some of the things modern RV manufacturers do that I do not like.
I do not know how much it is selling for but this unit is for sale and you can contact the seller here:
John Drenke
480 206-3211 - Auta a dopravní prostředky
For Inquiries contact:
John Drenke
480 206-3211
Buckl
As a tech at a Tiffin dealer who works on both new and used Tiffins, without even watching the video, I guarantee that used one is better than a new one.
I’m working on a new Phaeton right now, the entire mid bathroom shifted over an inch and a half. The complaint was the door doesn’t latch. I could go on and on….
Yikes! Good Luck
James, you really got me on your new purchase 2001 Beaver Coach! It seems that some manufactures in past made quality products (ie. RV’s) when compared to today’s manufacturing. I’m still looking for a 2001 Beaver Coach like yours…. :-D
2001 bwaver. 170,000 miles garage kept = $10,000
@@missingremote4388 I can rebuild it. I worked for Country Coach and was the Lead electrical harness dude for their coaches. These coaches are easy to fix and maintain because I help built them from the ground up.
I totally agree with you Aonexia...cos it seems that 2001-7 were quality ...and that BEAVER he has/had is a keeper ...one to look for , buy post inspection.
I like it when you go through these diesel Motorhomes and give descriptions of things and how they work. And your opinions do matter. Thanks James.
I have learned so much of the specific touches that the various brands that you inspect bring to the industry. I value your insight and knowledge about inspections and repairs. I’m a firm believer in inspecting our equipment for operation and safety because not only are these RVs expensive, they can be potentially dangerous. Thanks for all you do and share!
Your videos are absolutely priceless and I cannot thank you enough for what you do, we ended up buying a 2004 tiffin pheyton about 3 years ago thanks to your videos and are absolutely loving it! We are currently looking at getting a newer tiffin in the next coming months. Keep up the great work and keep fixing those RVs 🤣
Nice coach. Thanks for the tour and tips!
Thanks James. This has been as helpful to me anyway as any video I’ve seen. A consistent thread runs throughout and I think we would be well-advised to heed the fundamental message.
Or, put differently, simpler is often better in the long run.
I'm looking at Tiffin, too! THANK YOU, James for mentioning the importance of window awnings! 09:56 ☺
You bet!
@@AZExpert We've just landed at Heathrow London Airport and so hope to be in touch soon; God willing!
Beautiful Tiffin. I like the value/quality offered in these well-maintained pre-owned Phaetons! Thanks James!
I'm a huge Tiffin fan as well. Maybe someday my Breeze will grow up to be a Phaeton! Love your videos!
Great video, you are honest and that is what the RV community needs. You should think about expanding your expertise. I know I would pay for your final outcome on an RV. Thanks and God Bless you and your family.
Beside Tiffin is about 60 miles from me I love their products. Still love having the Aqua Hot system.
I have been to their plant a lot of times. You can go through their plant and see them working on motorhomes.
I have been their several times and asked a lot of questions. I like their way they paint their motorhome.
I see them holding up better then most motorhome. Thanks so much for your tour of the Tiffin Phaeton. I wish
I could purchase Tiffin Zephyr even if it was a 2007 or 2008. I know that this is their Rolls Royce of the motorhome.
Love all your videos thank you again..
Thank you so much. You do a great job explaining. Beautiful machine. I also would rather have that one instead of brand new.
Another beautiful coach and I couldn't agree more in I want physical switches...
Excellent video! Recently found your channel as my wife and I are Scottsdale residents thinking of going full-time coach living, so really appreciate the great information.
Welcome aboard!
Always enjoy your videos James!
Thanks for watching! :)
Great walk threw from a tech.
Great review! Would love to own a Phaeton!
I like it. It's a good looking, well maintained and equipped coach. A+++
We purchased a 2015 Tiffin Allegro Bus 37AP in Sept 2021 and absolutely love it. Ours does feature the multi-plex lighting but we do not have the LCD type screens. We have 3 of the individual A/C controls, as seen in this coach. They are ez to operate and control the temp variance from front to rear as explained in this video.
We have since logged over 6,000 trouble free drive train miles. We do not currently tow a vehicle behind it but we are averaging over 11 MPGs! (as measured by the factory dash computer for the last 21,000+ miles -previous owner never reset it- and I may not either since it has won me quite a few campground wagers) 😉.
When we acquired it with 15,000 miles, the computer read 11.2. Avg mpg. When I serviced the drive train (engine oil & trans fluid, I converted to approved synthetics @ the 16,500 mark . The average mpgs have since improved to 11.4
Incredible considering the GVWR of nearly 38,000 lbs. and it conquers hills at speed while providing reassuring descents with 2 stage engine braking.
I think the fact that the same Cummins L9 /Allison 3000MH w/ 450HP & 1,250 ft lbs of torque powers Tiffins 40 & 45 foot buses as well, places this lighter weight bus right in the ideal power to weight ratio. Highway driving is a dream.
So I can only agree that this era of Tiffin product may very well become a desirable classic. I guess I am a Tiffin fanboy now too 😎
Love iit. Good info. I like rocker switch also
Nice Phaeton. Very good video. Thanks for the tour. Happy trails!
Thanks for watching Phil!
Tiffin is the best production line coach in my opinion. I hope the Thor take over doesn't change that. Thanks James for another awesome video that gleans lots of info
I agree with you, simpler is better! I think the MH starting around 07 up to about 15 had the most features without all the problematic electronics!
That is a nice looking Tiffin. Tiffin will be one of the brands I’ll be looking at when we go to a DP!
Hi James. Always enjoy watching your videos. I look forward to them. I think most of the pre-2008 recession and pre-DEF top production manufacturers (CC, Tiffin, Newmar, Monaco (pre-REV group), etc.) American Coach, all have pros and cons. I really think Tiffin and Newmar customer service is #1, but I think that the older Tiffin tends to not offer the higher end items, like higher HP engines or aqua-hot, residential frig. I'm not a fan of Newmar's interior decor and lack of windows on the passenger side. I tend to lean towards the Monaco's (Beaver, Holiday Rambler, etc) before they went under. I have a '07 HR Navigator 45' w/Cummins 525 and Allison 4K, 12.5 Onan, king bed, all electric Girard window and patio awnings, pwr. shades, roadmaster, etc. It's pretty loaded with every imaginable gadget and option except a dishwasher. Surprisingly, for a 15 year old coach, it looks great and every single button, latch, piece of equipment, function.....all work perfectly. I just love it. I would have gotten a '07/'08 Beaver Marquis but just couldn't find one at the time. Great informative video and take care!
I still love my 2000 Monaco dynasty because of all the manual operated switches. And of course it’s a very well-built coach. Thanks for the video and I hope you’re finding time to enjoy your coach.
Thanks for watching! :)
Like you James, I'm a Tiffin Fanboy too! Love the quality of the cabinetry and everything else! thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching! :)
Have to strongly agree on rocker switches! My ‘17 Seismic toy hauler has redundant lcd touch screen and rockers. They dropped the redundancy a year or two later. The lcd went out on me on one outing, and I would have been stuck without the rockers. The bells and whistles are nice…until they’re not…
My neighbors have what might be this exact coach. Very nice.
That is a very nice coach James 👍
Thanks glad I found your Channel
Thanks for watching! :)
Hopefully I'll be in the market this summer I'm looking at allegro bus a 40 or a 42 I like the side radiator
Seriously Great job on the video all around. It’s nice to see someone who knows what they’re talking about for real explaining the ins and outs. I own a 2005 diamond four Monaco dynasty Ralph Lauren edition with a Cummings ISM 500. Allison. 4000 transmission
Also rocker switches. Two-way refrigerator that works great and has been upgraded I like it because I like going off grid. Also no DEF fluid. Aqua hot three zone. 10 airbags excellent ride. It does not sway in the wind. And it’s not affected by tractor trailers turbulence. The tag axle helps immensely. I had a non-tag axle coach 40 feet huge difference. I do like the gauges and the analog switches.
Is that rear radiator? Used is the way to go in my opinion. I would not buy any coach if I could not work on it myself. They constantly need tinkering and care. Also land to keep them on. So many people leave them in a separate garage area. I work on mine constantly for fun keeping it perfect. An hour here an hour there 15 minutes five minutes I think you need it to be on your property where you live. I think that’s something to consider.
Even a small trailer would be nice it doesn’t matter it’s what fits you.
Thanks for watching! :)
Just to let you know to a very good job in a lot of interest and how you show your motorhomes thank you and I like this one here with the less electronics
Thanks for watching! :)
looked them up. an 8-year old Phaeton is still $200k. too rich for my budget. but man, she's a beauty
Another great video 💪. I have a stumper of issues with our coach multiple technicians can not figure it out would love to see what you would have to say about it
I agree with you about the simplicity of rocker switches and the benefit of being able to repair things but I also bought a ridiculous washing machine that automatically dispenses detergent amongst other electronic things it does. I know it's going to break one day and I probably won't be able to fix it cheap but I get too much enjoyment not pouring in detergent every load.
Thanks for watching! :)
I watch your videos immediately after you post them, as they are informative and entertaining. Your videos are winners ✔️👍🏻🏁
Would you consider producing videos on luxury and mid-grade 5th wheel and bumper pull 3&4 season toy haulers and travel trailers for full time or extended stay useage?
Thank you in advance 👍🏻
Thanks for the suggestion
It's beautiful!
I really like how through you are .
Thanks Eric
She is a beauty!! I like old school like you!!!
Thanks for watching! :)
Great video
I have a 2010 - very little has changed!
Your bloopers are hilarious!
I sure agree that the rocker type switches are still WAY better than complicated electronics. Actually was low mileage that surprized me and why it is in great condition. I just always wonder about the dark colored exteriors and putting a strain on cooling and sun fading. If it is like my 2016 car I find older units are more fuel efficient than the so called newer units on any motorized vehical. Nice review! 👍
Thanks Galen
I agree with your thoughts on having rocker switches and keeping these maintainable.
Thanks for watching!! :)
These residential fridges run of the batteries? So no boondocking? Great review. As always
I work on swimming pools and they are getting like RV's with touch screens and complicated electronics. Switches are so much easier!! especially for the owner
Easier to break
What product would you recommend to wash and wax the roof. I love my Tiffin and I’m going to the 50TH Anniversary Rally in Wyoming in June. Mr Bob Tiffin is going to be there even though he sold the company.
Nice RV! We are starting our looking process and this fits the bill.
Question, did you inspect the 2003 Fore Travel RV at premium coach group in arizona? We really like that model as well. What is your opinion of the brand? And did you inspect this one?
I have the cabinet and hookups for an all-in-one clothes washer/dryer but I am at a loss as to where the dryer would duct to. 2000 Sportscoach. Any ideas?
I see a lot of phantom coaches for sale I was wondering if it's because of the rear radiator being hard to work on costing more that's why I was looking at allegro bus
I hope you get a chance to read this...I have a 2011 Tiffen Allegro Red 36qsa and I'm needing to tighten my ladder attachment to the roof removing the sealant that is there. I heard you mention that lap sealant will not stick to the roof and it needs to be self leveling silicone....did I hear this correctly and is the Dicor 501 self leveling lap sealant I purchased NOT the correct product to use.
I like the older design better. I prefer wood cabinets and not shiny shit where it looks like a casino or strip club. That 14 is beautiful inside. I'm also not getting any younger so switches are just fine and need my daughter to show me how to work
I like the real wood too
You never mentioned an Avion 5th wheel trailers, what do you think about them? I have an old 94 5th wheel that I think has stuff you don't see on newer trailers.
I need help. My 2005 Winnebago Journey has a roof issue. The Filon is "wrinkling" after I removed the Proflex for a radius job I was preparing for. I waited two days before returning to replace the Proflex and found the passenger side of the roof wrinkled :( Dang it... any suggestions?
808 have the water tank rot underneath I'm looking at a 08 40 footer just curious to look for it or not
That power line made me nervous the whole time you were up too.
I like simple too! How old do you have to go to not have to deal with the def?
Do you have a web link for John's consignment coaches?
What do you recommend for maintenance on tpo roof?
Hi James my name is Todd Fletcher located in Wilmington NC . I really value your view. I'm also a big tiffin fan . I'm wanting to buy a single axle tiffin phantom. What would you say the last two year of the phanton I could purchase would be with switch's and not the fire fly panels like the 2014 unit you have on. Also my wife isn't in a wheelchair but has a hard time with stairs. So have you ever worked with the chair lift system that is attached to a pole and lifts the person up and swings in to the R V. Any info you could Direct me in would sure be appreciated. Maybe I could talk you into flying to inspect a RV for me. Ha ha I know your super busy all the time. That's because you do great work and people trust you . Thanks for that and thanks for awesome videos.
Todd I am super busy right now, I wish I could help! I would check your local dealers or service shops for the best information
@@AZExpert keep up the good video s
Hi James,
I have a 2002 tiffin allegro bus that I need some work done to. How do I get in touch with you to get an appointment. I really appreciate all your knowledge and experience. Thanks
Like to get a beaver like yours but I doubt we'll be finding something as nice as that
Thanks for watching! :)
James , the roof AC open fan , does that have good watertight seals ? Or does that require a further watertight cover.
Lovely coach
Great Inspection bud
Yano what , no disrespect meant to RV builders anew
But the more modern ones post 2007, are made to fail in areas , soooo the buyer whom wants it fixed by the maker (for excellent service/fix records) is paying out , over n over n over on these newer models ... reminds me of German car manufacturers here to in Europe we all know , ohhh boy they charge, and quality is down 👎 ....its a mindset of : "well if you can afford in the first instance/place to buy such luxury ...you damn can afford the service/fix bills " 😊
No , just do it right off the bat !
The seals are weatherproof yes when its closed, covers are nice so it can be open when its raining.
I wonder what that one costs? I like the rocker switches as well. Simple is better.
James ...a man after our own hearts "Simple makes sense" , less to go wrong 😉 esp electronically
❤️❤️ James, I follow a lot of channels on CZcams about how to repair your RV.
I saw this one I thought you may be interested in on upgrading slide systems seeing how they are located in AZ.
Check out a channel called "All About RV'S" he has a video Friday or Saturday before Easter explaining the entire systems and why it's better.
Hope you have a great weekend, you deserve it.👍👍
Thanks Joe
Dang am I the only one that gets vertigo and scared when he leans out over the edge of the roof?!
You're not lol
What are these going for $$??
How much ? $
tefon? where is the T in the beginning of phaeton
Yeap, you are a Tiffan fanboy. LOL Nice coach
Why do all of these RV interiors look like they should be owned by Don Johnson or Clint Eastwood? They're so wood-heavy and don't appear to follow interior decor trends for sticks and bricks. Are there any Postmodern Minimalist designs that feature white/black/gray and smooth surfaces?
Nvrmd I found it for only 1.25 million czcams.com/video/G9XhLca9JSk/video.html
The higher end bus conversions usually favor the more modern, but those are custom built--so you could order anything you wanted --for a couple million
To new 2006 or older
you do a much better job then the un trustworthy, unreliable, unethical Andrew Steele..
Please focus as much on decor as gadgets. Spent most of the time showing me buttons. I want to see what it looks like inside for crying out loud. I barely saw the kitchen at it’s almost the end of the video. I guess you’re just going to show me more buttons instead of the bath & bedroom so I’m too bored to watch anymore.
I try to show to my strengths and words to describe interior furnishings and finishes are not....good. Thanks for watching as far as you could
Beautiful coach. Would you trade it for the 🦫?