Darren Bent BELIEVES Aston Villa Should PRIORITISE Winning A Trophy Over Qualifying For The CL! đđ€
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 18. 04. 2024
- Darren Bent & Andy Goldstein getting through to the semi-final of the European Conference League and if they would rather win this than qualify for the Champions League.
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They are good enough to do both.
Spurs aren't getting top 4 when they've still got arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and city still to play.
@@Karlos.xx.travelsyup spurs got the maddest run itâs long for them but remember they won the league in november so itâs ok
You are right on! They can do both.đŻ
Villa still have to win 2 or more games out of 5
Why is Goldstein obsessed on thinking every villa player is going to leave? All the players are at a big club, best manager, best fans and rich owners! He just sounds jealous because villa are going places! FACT
Because heâs a manure fan who gets paid to generate calls in from people who think heâs talking shite
đjust a deluded man u fan I think he don't realise no villa will leave villa for united but I bet villa could get any man u player . Times change mate man u are not a big club anymore you was a mid table team before Fergie and you have been a mid team since Fergie . Come back to reality
Villa will be 6th 7th area next 2 seasons.
â@@BG_MKYI'm a Villa fan and Villa couldn't get any Man U player. Wouldn't be sure a Villa player would leave for United but I'd be worried if they start trying to sign one still given their stature as a Club. Let's be real here
Villa has been going for both this season, and people still ask this question.
Let them. Id rather but ubder the radar đ UTV
We could fall short of the trophy and we could lose 4th to spurs thatâs the harsh reality. BUT that would qualify us for euro next year and we go again we can pull in players now injuries will be up by next season weâll be powerful.
Iâve heard the typical Man U and arsenal fans eying up Martinez and Watkins and once upon a time theyâd take all of our best players owner fattens his pockets and weâre back to mid table. Not this time, players are staying we have been one of the best managers in world football. Best GK in the world and huge fan base we are villa and we will move mountains next season no matter what the outcome this season. UTV đđœ
Silverware will be talked about for seasons to come
Top 4 is great but all it really achieves is qualification. Football is all about Trophies
Why not both we need champions league for financial reasons
Top 4 achieves far more than that. Players want to come to your club. Players want to stay at your club. Broadcasters want to show your matches. etc etc etc
True but Bentys right one step at a time and build. We've started, dipped our toe in Conference. Next seaon Europa, season after that European. Players get used to a certain level of football then and win. Straight into European now and we wont last 2 legs. We were like a deer in headlights for the first few matches in Conference. Look at Newcastle, too much too soon. Couldnt cope and have nothing to show for it.
West ham won a trophy last season were are they now and didn't there best player leave.
@@paulhiggins1577 Maybe players would want to come if they secure UCL qualification, but they're still stuck by FFP restrictions and won't be able to spend much for next season and might even have to sell a high value player instead
Darren Bent played for Villa but he is clearly not a Villa fan. His alliance is Arsenal. Im sure Emery will get Aston Villa into the Champions League and if he will does well will boost commercial revenue which is vital in keeping your best players, squad strengthing and sustainability. The trophy that really matters is the European Title. You cannot erase history and only six English clubs has ever won it Manchester United, Liverpool, Nottingham Forest, Aston Villa, Chelsea and Man City. On this merit those are the real big 6 English clubs - not the Sky6.
Chelsea and Citys achievements should all be null and void. They're not English, and they're not clubs. Theyre Russian, and they are Emirati, and they are toys.
So one of only four teams in England to have done it - the Conference League should be left to the likes of Chelsea, City, Arsenal and Spurs.
No English keeper can compete with Dibu đ
No current Spanish or Pakistani keeper can either
Forget the league, emi's one of the best in the world... People need to start putting more respect on villa, what we'v achieved so far this season is amazing, even the win against arsenal most of the pundits spoke about arsenals failures rather than the great performance villa put in
Not even going to listen to this. No need to compromise. Less than 10 games left in the season with a 3 point lead on tottenham (who have the top 3 to play)....
Goldstein never asks man united fans whatâs more important- the fa cup or champions league
The FA cup, no point of being in the Champions league knowing you're not going to win it.
Been going for both all season, and still going strong. 32 games in still fourth and a semi final and pundits still think its one or the other.
Emery is the master of balancing deep runs in 2nd and 3rd tier european cups and maintaining league positions.
The second yellow was because the ref thought heâd gone to wind the fans up when actually he was trying to get the ball back so Ollie could take his pen. Bentaleb smashed into the crowd and they wouldnât give it back. Should never have been a yellow, the ref was one of the worst Iâve ever seen.
As a Villa fan Iâd much rather win the Europa Conference league than finish in the top 4.
Qualifying for the Champions League would be brilliant but letâs be honest we probably wonât get out the group.
Its all about money from UCL. Its gonna help us massively.
Getting both is the target & we're in a good position to achieve exactly that,but top 4 is more important for Aston Villa fc moving forward in terms of revenue, prestige & player recruitment+ keeping the quality players we have already. I've seen so many false dawns at Villa down the years,but this feels different nowadays & with the quality football people at Villa all pulling in the same direction & the real togetherness we have at the club, I'm hoping we can really push on our great club to the next level & for the long term in the upcoming years..... up the mighty Villa!!! đâœâïžđđđ
That's so stupid. Have you seen how much the teams earned this year. It's about $120 million for man city. That sort of money can change our team and make it competitive.
We need both. But I probably prefer top 4 for ucl money to boost our fpp so we can keep getting better player to build our squad. The money for winning conference league isn't that much
How do you know that. How many people said at the start of the season would be 4th now and in a Euro semi final.
Villaâs remaining league matches are against Bournemouth (home), Chelsea (home), Brighton (away), Liverpool (home), and Palace (away). Spursâ remaining matches are against Arsenal (home), Chelsea (away), Liverpool (away), Burnley (home), City (home), and Sheffield (away). Villa have the easier run in, 3 points on the board against Spurs with a game in hand and a superior goal difference, and just need to take care of business one game at a time. Psychologically, if Villa wins this weekend and Spurs lose, even with them having a game in hand, that will be tough for Spurs to come back from with so few games left.
Are Tottenham even playing this weekend? Looking at BBC Sport for fixtures. It shows Spurs / Arsenal is on 28th. By that time Villa could feasibly have 9 on the board.
You all need to wake up to the quality of the teams in Europe and in the Conference league as its now a really competitive cup. Every team we (Villa) have played have had a bit of quality about them with Lille being the best so far, and I'd go as far as saying they're close to being CL level side. Look at Leverkausn in Europa, CL level.
ridiculous. last year everyone was saying, Villa aren't ready for Euopean football, they need more signings, more time with their manager. they qualified for Conference League and are now in the semifinals. now you're saying they aren't ready for more European football? pipe down. this ownership and coaching staff are in for the long haul. let's have a trophy AND 4th place. UTV!
Top 4 is far more important than winning the Europa conference league,cos it'll push Aston Villa on in terms of revenue & prestige,with UCL qualification, next season will be massive & we'll be able to recruit better players this Summer + keep hold of all the quality players we currently have. I'm hoping we can get both,if Villa win the conference league & get top 4 this season it would be incredible,Villa are on the up & our fantastic owners/Unai Emery & his team are doing miracles at Aston Villa fc & us Villa fans are absolutely buzzing these days,cos it's not so long ago that we were struggling & we've been through some really dark times over long periods in our recent history,so we appreciate our present direction even more. Our great club is 150 years old this year & we can be really proud of the work being done at Villa & everyone is really together & pulling in the same direction,it feels great. UTV!
I agree. Fans of other Sky6 clubs do not want Villa or Newcastle challenging because one or two of them the Sky6 is going to lose out in revenue and status, perhaps permanently. You have here an Arsenal and Man U fan discussing what is best for Villa. Villa will get both Champions League qualification and EC League finals - they have a manager to do both.
I dont see why we cant get both ,what a great time to be a villa fan UTV
We could/can but thats not the point. We need to build our squad and experience. Straight into European now and were out inside two legs but if we build. Conference this year, Europa next and then European our players are slowly dipping their toe, getting used to the style and level of football and could go deep and eventually win.
We would be out inside two legs? What are you talking about? The Champions League group stage goes on until Feb with the new format. It hasnât been straight knock out for about 30 years, pal.
@@ihateclowns7526 yeah the problem with that is players want to be in the champs league not europa, players will leave for champs league teams and our squad will get picked apart plus we need the money to compete
@@Ronnie392 I agree about the money and the holy grail of champions league. But too much too soon and we could end up like Newcastle, with nothing. Conference win this season . Europa next season and Champions regulars after that. Its only an extra season building.. We have Emery he will keerp and attract players.
This is not a "this or that" conversation.
French fans are still salty about 18th December 2022..
They can't rid themselves of the nightmares
He owns Allez Les Trash ..All he needs now is a mustache
Infantino owns him. A total flop of a player like Mpaypal scored a hattie on that flop, only Infantino ensured their WC dub
They can definitely do both
Anyone who thinks winning the Europa Vauxhall Conference is more important than finishing 4th is a complete and utter doughnut
Totally agree mate and these on talksport most definately are doughnuts đ as if a club is going to give up on champions league qualification ever never ever going to happen đ
ââ@@petersmith2522 this pair suffer for Sky6 eliteism are Arsenal and Man U fans and they think Villa are only worthy enough for Europes 3rd tier trophy. Period.
We're more than good enough to do both...no need to prioritise one over the other
Sorry Benty, we're going for both
The only trophies that count for big teams are the Prem and CL. After that, CL qualification is the most important thing. The other trophies are B competitions.
Has he lost his mind. Winning a conference cup instead of Champions league. Winning champions league place now places you in position to go for a different caliber of player and can put the club further ahead in development.
I get it, these are just debate scenarios, but why do you have to prioritize one over the other. One is a cup como with a few games and only 5 games left in the other. Professional players, go out and play.
what does the trophy cabinet look like for top 4?
I don't have a preference, both are important in trying to become an elite club and all things considered if we don't do both from the position we've worked hard to get into then we will have failed.
Top 4 is the priority for exposure of Aston Villa I was speaking to my friend from Ghana đŹđ and he said to me yâknow Aston Villa is a big club in Ghana đŹđ they have their own supporters club it makes me cry đą to think that people around the globe đ love Aston Villa like we do blows my mind
as a villa fan, i dont expect to do well in champions league, so would be happy to have a go, and hopefully drop down into europa, so saying that would it just be better to win the trophy and go straight into europa knowing we may have a chance? But, we want to emulate the achievement of champions league like newcastle to be able to say we got there as we are more than capable of getting there. But it would be good to mark the period of sucess with a trophy. Im hoping we can do both, but id prefer to try and compete in europa as thats our level. I think UCL is too hard for us currently. Saying that, maybe we can build a squad over summer that is capable. Its not too far a strech for us to do both. Also, martinez isnt going anywhere especially if we get UCL... hes deterimined to get us there and play there with us as we gave him the opportunity to become argentina number one and win the world cup. He wont leave us yet.
It's 2 more games and we're in the final lol. So there's nothing to prioritise. We've coped for 8 months, 6 weeks more isn't exactly a stretch... poor from Benty that.
Why is the audio on talkSPORT breaking up all the time
I think they are good enough to do both
Weâre getting both
I agree. A trophy for villa would be absolutely huge
Champions League would be even better. That's the trophy that really matters. I was 20 when Villa won it in 1982.
@@user-wn3tg7gl2w not realistic and you been no where near it. Villa havent won anything in ages. Winning anything in europe is a step up. Some fans want to just leap into the top level of success.. winning these trophies is a platform to build on
@@mefninja that's what they all said in 1982. Villa won the European Cup as supposedly 'unfancied' against Bayern Munich then the Supercup against Barcelona. Aston Villa was the top club in Europe when Liverpool was at the time dominated like Man City now. Then English clubs dominated Europe for 6 years running. It is realistic because I saw it happen back then and I see patterns of it happening again. Emery has multiple Europa Leagues so really Emery is building a squad and mentality for the Champions League in the fashion Ron Saunders did for Villa back then in 1982 and what Brian Clough did for Forest in the late 70's. Emery and his backroom staff haven't left sunny Spain to go to Birmingham to waste their time - they want to repeat history. By the way I have been a Villa fan since 1969 and I've seen us move from 2nd tier (1975) to European Champions (1982) in 7 years.
@@user-wn3tg7gl2w ok let me put it this way. Right now you have a big chance to win something. Next season who knows what happens. Could easily end up in an injury crisis like manutd and newcastle. Maybe emery gets poached by bayern?? Maybe things just fall apart and emery gets the sack. I dont see the point of risking something this season for a chance at something next season. 3 more games and villa can win a european trophy. 3 games!! It should be taken seriously. The lift the fans and the club will get will be huge.
@@mefninja you are overthinking. Emery is going nowhere. He turned Newcastle down and accepted Aston Villa. Why?. Emery is 52. He remembers when Aston Villa was one of Europe's elite clubs. Because of his maturity he is not swayed by Sky6 propaganda like you. He knows Aston Villa has the heritage and he has enough control in the club to do and recruit what he wants. He left Spain for Birmingham. Why? Aston Villa has invested in his family club Real Union. Why?. The reason is that Aston Villa is a project he can develop as his own and complete with the best. He is going nowhere until Villa lifts the Champions League.
I'm starting to hate when people say teams should prioritise games... when has that ever happened? When has a team played kids in the lrague, won a trophy and then said "yeah we only wanted the cup". You should be trying to win EVERY game.
As much I agree I think we can do both tbh
We were in championship a few years ago now were amazing Emery is a legend
Trophy for sure. My blues mate keeps saying they've won more silverware this century đ€Ł
Goldstein you absolute weapon. We are doing both. UTFV
Iâd prefer to win a trophy but Villa probably need the cash from champions league. Think theyâve a huge FFP problem coming down the road
Silverware for me and if we end up in the Europa we would have a chance to go and try and win that.
Benty on drugs againđ
We are doing both even with a huge injury list all season. Still canât get a bit of credit from the big 6 media.
Conference League would be far better, we don't have a squad good enough for the Champions League. A season in the Europa League and going much further would be far better than what happened to Newcastle.
I'd rather win the trophy but I think we can do both, we'll need a bit of luck but we have the quality, our squad is a little thin but I cannot see why we can win the conference league and finish 4th. UTV
Why can't we do both ?
trophies are remembered forever
We have been juggling this since September and people are still questioning us. Emery will get us going on both fronts.
Like Unai said we wanna do well in both - why do we need to just focus on one?
Both !!
No1 wants to see spurs stinking out the champions leagues again đ€Šââïžđ€Ł
champ league will attract top players and also retain our best and also financial benefits that come with it also villa won the championship playoff doesnt that trophy count?
People just talk they don't actually know what they're saying like winning that Trophy doesn't compare to entering the UCL, hearing that anthem and receiving that needed Cash for FFP and Transfers.
should tell that to city also right?
Why not both we have been competing for both all season
It would be a bonus to win the cup but much prefer to finish ahead of Spurs in fourth
If we get Champions league we can attract better signings to proceed in the league
Call me greedy. But I want both. !!! I think a champions league is more do able then winning the conference but I generally believe we could do both.
What a time to be a villa fan. !
Would I rather win a competition or qualify for a competition?
Forgive me but I'll take winning a competition all day long. Anyone that says otherwise should have their hard drive checked.
Aim should be both
We will get both, weâve got Super Unai Emery UTV
In answer to your question..both!
Goldstein = jealous.
Bent = threatened by another team entering the âBig 6â.
With only 3 matches left in the Europa conference league including the final & 5 more matches in the premier league, it's a realistic target to get top 4 & a European trophy đ,so this one or the other conversation is nonsense. Villa are in a good position to achieve both & with abit of luck that's how we're gonna end this great season we're having.. up the mighty Villa!!! đâœđđâïžđđ
Champs league is better for the club for revenues.
FFP is a tough one now.
Why can't they do both
Goldstein disrespects Aston Villa & says Unai & Martinez would leave the club at the drop of a hat if a so called bigger club came in for them,based on what others might've done or maybe his own fickle mindset. Aston Villa are a big club that are on the up & are doing special things,Unai & Emi are loyal people & very respected at Villa ,& they also respect the club & the platform it's given them,so don't automatically assume these guys would do what others have or you might do yourself........ up the mighty Villa!!!
I'm sorry but the conference league isn't a trophy it's like winning the charity shield or something
Or just go for both
I believe top 4.....only beacuse it's harder to achieve and financially good & will help attract big players...but silver wear will be awsome for morale and a sense of physical achievement to hold and celebrate for alot of hard work and grind this season...
Now listening to the end the trophy is the one... U can't help dream landđ
Let me tell you two things:
First Emi Martinez
Second...France.
Can easily go for both - not like they play tough teams in Europe
Olympiakos, the Primark of European football. Spursy, the Primark of the EPL. You're right...both are in the bag! đ
Totally agree!!! Trophy goes in the cabinet!! 4th doesn't!! đđđđŒ
But 4th brings you Champions League football, all the money that comes with that, the opportunity to attract top players to the club, and the opportunity to play at some of the most prestigious venues around Europe and host some of the world's best players...... but if a trophy sat in a cabinet gathering dust means more then who am I to judge! đ
Getting champions league helps you win more trophies but u think we will get both spurs have some very tough games
BOTH
I think west ham got 12 million for winning this thing last season. Newcastle got 29 million (Ithink)for getting in the champs league. Money wise the champions league is financially way better
HEâS NO MATT KENDRICK
Villa can do both
Both.
Can do both itâs only an extra 3 games you melt
No if cash did not score we would not be there , shout up bent we need 4th spot ,
Prioritise silverware, especially when the competition in the league is Spurs and thereâs only two games left in Europe
This team can achieve both why settle for one?
So first it was Emery would leave if a big club came in,now it's Martinez would leave if a big club came in?. What is that đđ's agenda against Villa?.He wants to concentrate on his own crappy club.
You need to take the trophy. Making it to the champion league does not guarantee that you will win it. And the next year, you might not qualify. Win first.
Isnt the whole point of sport to win trophy? You compete to get to this point, why wouldn't you go for it?
Spurs, aren't finishing top 4. Arsenal, Chelsea (away), Liverpool (away) and City will Spursy them!
Geezer on the phone last talks sense utv
Both đ
Darren Bent BELIEVES Aston Villa should PRIORITISE winning a trophy.......
Why do you capitalise the most random words in your video titles?? đ
The conference league is mickey mouse stuff, we need to be in the UCL.
Champions league all day long
Next question
Some absolute clowns in this company
Why dont they talked about the game itself,commentator in england talk football only through the result,Lille has dog walked AV,and it should raise the question how the fourth tesam in English premiere league conceded so much opportunities from their oppononent while their opponent run on a budget equivalent of an academy in England,this is the concern that they should have,same for west ham,with a budget double of Leverkusen and being smacked.this is the comment they should be making not pumping your chest while AV won over penalties.
Is being a moron a prequisite for employment at talksport? Why would any club not try to achieve both if they can?
Would you bet against usđđ
UTV!
Barcelona should get rid of ter stergen and get Martinez.we need leaders like him in the locker room..Arteta made a huge mistake..for letting Martinez go..He is better than ramsdale and Raya..
Be real guys ...they should go N win the cup ,and qualify for UCL,those days if building n start slowly r dun.fotball is pas that.
At home villa can beat anyone this is fact . We battered man city and Arsenal twice . Aren't they champions League teams also villa just got though to a team who will be in the champions League next season . I would not bet against this team they turn up especially in the big games
Looks like it's not just penaldo Palmer that can knock in a pen