Surprising Tech That Came From Formula 1
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- čas přidán 29. 05. 2024
- Top F1 teams spend over $400M a year. Why do they do it? Well, obviously winning is great advertising, but racing is also a test-bed for new technology that eventually trickles down to the rest of us. At least, that’s what they’ll tell you. But I’ve never seen a 200mph Corolla with downforce measured in tons. So, what actually trickles down from F1? What have they done for us lately? If they're not giving tech to us... where's it going? Time to find out!
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The first F1 car with a full carbonfiber-chassis raced already one year earlier, the McLAREN MP4/1 from 1980 :D
Yea I was like wasn’t the first carbon fiber car a mclaren
Man, Technology growing so fast, doesn't it? I still remember when the F1 car is so much smaller and have more powerful engine (I doesn't include the hybrid system, just plain engine power) with a traditional aerodynamics. And now we have a super efficient engine with gigantic downforce and multiple parts are perfected with computing power.
yeah and no the mclaren ad a metal underbody and carbon fibre panels they probably ment full carbon fibre parts.
@@W1LD_HAIR no the mclaren mp4/1 had a full carbon fiber monocoque chassis
The Mclaren MP4/1 was indeed the first F1 car with a carbon fiber monocoque but it is from 1981 not 1980
"Testbed for new technologies" , meanwhile FIA bans every new technology "to balance the teams"
Right now the only development in f1 comes from teams having to think of workarouds for new regulations that are increasingly more strict for emmisions, i no longer like f1 ever since they dropped the v10, it lost all sense of emotion and excitement in the race, now they are always the same two guys on the front and their strategy comes down to pray for the one in front of you to make a mistake, otherwise it's near impossible to pass and have a back and forth
Isn't that better than the situation we have in European football? The strategy of UEFA over the last decades has resulted in only 6-7 that will win everything from their respective national leagues and cups to the UEFA cup. Do you know which teams?
@@SteifWood Chelsea, MU, Liverpool, AC Milan, Juventus, Barcelona, and Real Madrid.
@@SteifWood The same 2 teams have been winning since 2012 so I think both sports are messed up rn
@@damarfadlan9251 Lol, you MUST be Italian,,, Serie A just doesn't have the financial power as Premier, Ligue 1, La Liga, or Bundesliga.
The real group of 6 is RM, Barca, Bayern, PSG, ManC and Liverpool which together with Chelsea has won about every title nationally and internationally the last decade. Also, keep ManU out of this league. Just look at that sissy team who lost 5-0 to LFC last night and it's questionable where Barca is heading after losing to Cadiz on Bernabeu.
I can’t even imagine the tech we would have now a days if Williams was still a dominant force in f1
Fia would’ve stopped and banned the tech to make it fair.
Was about to say that self-driving or remote controlled race cars would be a thing but that's already a thing today.
@@Butti. you either promote technological advancement or bring back the v12s
@@wotwott2319 not really racing if there's no pilot inside
Repent to Jesus Christ
“Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance.”
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I love how CFD runs inside of MS paint😂😂😂
Bhahah.. was thinking the same thing. Made me chuckle.
Yea you really didn't know you could build civilizations using ms paint
Not just that, but 1990's era MS Paint 😆Great attention to detail, that, as they were talking about the 90s at the time. 🐧
The coolest F1 based car by far was the Renault Espace F1, mid-engine V10 in a damn minivan.
It looks like something you would find at Epcot lol
I am so down for the absolute absurdity that is mid-engine minivans. Toyota did it too once, just not with an F1 V10.
Except the Espace F1 is not meant to be sold to the public unlike AMG One....
That's because unlike the AMG, the Espace F1 literally just equipped with bare F1 engine without any slight tuning to it for everyday use. You cannot cold-start the Espace like a normal road car, you have to let the engine idle at 4000 RPM for a minimum of 30 mins before you can drive it, and it requires a full F1 crew team to do that instead of just one single car key....
@@DannyPlaysStuff In fact the Espace F1 wasn't even an Espace, it was half a Williams FW14 and some custom built bodywork and chassis. It was just looking like an Espace.
@@DannyPlaysStuff I had a 1983 Ford Laser that had a similar starting process 😂
I feel obligated as an wind energy engineer to point out that they are called wind turbines and not windmills. #hatersgonnahate
We put up 72 V150s back in 2020 north of Indianapolis and wow what a project
Eagle killer! (Completely joking, keep up the good work! 👍)
Tf is that # 😂😂
Fancy windmills
Being a wind tech this bugs me as well. Lol.
Definitely down for a watch party! Specially since I'm usually all alone when watching F1 😔
can i brazilian join? I would LOVE!
Same here brother!
A Donut F1 Fantasy League would be be dope too!
Holy crap yes that would be awesome! I could post my league if yall would want to join it?
@@keeptwistin9739 i'm poorly performing in two leagues already but ok kkkkk....
What's your league?
This item was extremely interesting!! I knew F1's innovations were applied in the automotive industry. But I didn't expect it to have such broad impact on the technology around all of society.
Repent to Jesus Christ
“Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance.”
James 1:2-3 NIV
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@@repentoryouwilllikewiseper8741 Ramen.
Hence why you often see big and small tech companies sponsoring teams, its often more than sponsoring, they are working together in projects
that's because you're a child with no concept of the past.
Just saying the predecessor to the AMG one was the Renault espace built with a mid mounted V10 F1 Renault engine. Sadly it never made it to production!
what about the F1 Ford Transit
Wasn't even close of being an Espace, it only looked like it
6:51 - the 2019-current Corolla has the Dynamic Force engine with a thermal efficiency over 40% - also, the manual transmission for it is reeeeeally smooth
Oooh
Isn't that the same family as the silly 3 cylinder in the gr yaris?
well, he said most, not all
@@rhyswilliams4893 oh it's Rhys Williams the inventor of all the best engines!
@@TheRealSykx 😭😭😆🤣
00:04
Jeremiah: “Top F1 teams spend over 400,000,000 dollars a year.”
Donut: displays 400,000,000,000
They’re not wrong, 4 hundred billion is indeed greater than 4 hundred million
I thought so too at first but it says "400,000,000,00" so they just used a comma separating the cents
Glad I wasn't the only one to catch this.
Damn! I’ll just say it was my tired brain from watching this after work, good catch!
Right now, after the change in regulations, there is a cost cap. Teams are allowed to spend at most 140 Million Dollars a year
I swear they have one of these every video so someone comes and comments it to boost the algorithm lol
My favourite F1 part in road cars is the CVT in my Nissan Versa.
Too bad the cvts in the versa aren't matenience friendly
@@ThatCasualGuy23 : Honda makes the best CVTs, Nissan is a miss. Sad. I actually like a nice 6-speed manual gear box.
@@bondgabebond4907 Nissan cvts last fine nowadays, the past few years they've become a lot more reliable
@@mountaingoat595 : Scotty Kilmer was pretty rough on Nissan CVTs. Good to hear they are reliable. My first car was the Datsun (Nissan) 2000, 1969. Wish I had it today. Cost only $3,225.
@@bondgabebond4907 the CVT in my 06 Honda Civic hybrid was garbage. What have they changed?
Jerry is one of my favourite hosts you guys have, loved the video
To think that most hated on him when he started out just seems unreal by now. He surely wasn't the best, but he's on par now that he has the experience!
eh,... still not a fan. hes cool but i dont think donut understands some of their viewers are not 16 and arent trying to watch an SNL spinoff😂
@@Keji839 I love Donut and James but the D-list is getting hard to watch lately. Seems like it's 15 mins of him yelling. Not my cup of tea but I do like most of the content they put out.
@@diegohuijbregtsgarcia5102 agreed. I wasnt a fan in his first videos, but once he found his groove, he really started to shine
@@Keji839 yea he trys so hard to be funny & that pedo mustache he usually has don't help lol
The "downforce on the SUV" thing is often actually an anti-drag thing, IIRC. I remember learning about this when I was reading up on thick airfoils for the root section of wind turbine blades. Something to do with sharp cutoff at the end of the airfoil shape allowing a vortex to set up behind which effectively extends the chord length, giving some of the benefits of a long, tapered airfoil shape. The sharp edge helps the air flowing over the car exit cleanly, rather than getting mixed up in turbulence behind the car, which reduces low-pressure drag at the back of the car.
Or something like that. It's been a few years since I looked at this stuff. Look up flat-back airfoil aerodynamics if you're interested.
Interesting, I should look into that. As a kid in grade 8, I don’t understand much of that, but it’s sure way more interesting than the crap I learn in school lol.
@@jordangamesvlogs9892 true that bro
Is that what a gurney flap does as well?
@@klee8249 It's been a while since I looked at this stuff, but I believe that a Gurney flap is a cheap, simple way to give you the high lift of a trailing edge flap. So the sharp corners on the rear of a car are to *reduce* drag by increasing effective chord, while a Gurney flap *increases* both lift and drag by increasing effective camber.
Yeah, you nailed it. German aerodynamicist Wunibald Kamm discovered the effect in the 30's, and created the body shape we now refer to as a Kammback. If you truncate an airfoil section with a sharp abrupt edge at a location at or after which the cross section at that area is 50% of the airfoil's maximum cross-sectional area, you induce an area of wake turbulence behind that flat face. This wake turbulence creates an area of low pressure that mimics the effect of the tail section you cut off in that the free stream can't enter that region, thereby maintaining smooth airflow behind the car. It's a really simple, clever trick to increase aerodynamics in an era where they couldn't rigorously understand the effects of vehicle shape on aero. You can even see it on modern cars like the C5 Corvette, Prius, Insight, or Audi A7, to list a few.
Back in the day (late 1960's), my dad negotiated the very first contract for the anti-lock braking system when working for Boeing. Fast forward to winter of 1995 in Montana, I'm driving my folks Lincoln on a very icey road. I wasn't used to driving an automatic transmission, so my speed was too high as I approached a stop sign. The car had ABS, I stood hard on the brakes and came to a safe stop at the stop sign. Had I been in my pickup at that speed, I'd have flown right through that stop sign. So ABS goes back to the late 60' with Boeing. Pretty crazy!
Boeing should have gave back thrust reversers
Jenson had abs on the Interceptor years ago
F1 Race hang out would be dope. This is my first year following F1 and I have to give all the credit to Donut for putting me on!
Donut accidentally got me into F1 last season, after I watched the Senna episodes of Past Gas in September I decided I wanted to watch a full race weekend (up until that point I’d only watched bits and pieces of a couple races, but never a full race or practice/qualifying). That race happened to be Sochi which has always been known as a boring track but ended up making for a really entertaining weekend that included a McLaren on pole and a Williams on the second row and of course the craziness on the last couple laps (I won’t spoil it for you in case you decide to go back and watch what you missed from 2021).
After that I was hooked, I went back and watched every race/qualifying I missed (including the disaster that was the “race” at Spa) and I spent the whole offseason nerding out about the new generation of cars which so far have not disappointed one bit
The first carbon fiber chassis was used by mclaren in 1981, and that same yesr he had a shocking crash in monza, proving the chassis capabilities
Pretty sure it was 80 no?
Active suspension would probably solve the issues with porpoising and make these new generation F1 cars far better. Apparently Russell agrees.
I like the way F1 is making the teams look for solutions. No easy button and be finacially efficient.
@@alvinnieves590 financially efficient, like using tech that has proliferated the normal car market now for over a decade? Like... Active suspensions?
Dude No team on the grid is going to bail out Mercedes by agreeing to active suspension. Like why would they?
@@edwinbenny2483 you act like this would only be advantageous to Mercedes...
@@BionicBurke who you trying to fool here man? Active suspension has been one of the fields where Mercedes where miles ahead of everyone else and right now Mercedes can solve pretty much most of their porpoising troubles with an active suspension. So why would teams like Ferrari and Redbull who managed to make a fast car without active suspension bail out Mercedes?
Mercedes' hot and cold side turbo separation from front-back sides of the engine block is gonna be such a huge thing for consumer cars... if they can reliably package it.
Formula E is pushing EVs development, I think it'll be a bigger lab for future electric vehicles, it'll be fun to look closer
Can you name an example of any improvement that has come from Formula E to road electric cars? The most efficient and fastest cars aren't even from manufacturers competing in FE.
I don’t think so, there must be a reason why almost all of the big teams are stepping away from FE. I think Formule E limits development to much by the rules that it isn’t the best way for manufacturers to test new things.
Not while FE keeps being almost a spec series, there's not much to create there now
It'll be good for technological development and public awareness... & crushing ignorance.
@@ConanOG The drivetrain isn't a spec part.
Totally support a race watch-a-long
Yes, this.
I thought that McLaren was the first to use a carbon fiber monocoque with the MP4/1? As much as I love Ferrari, I'm pretty sure thatthe 81 McLaren was the first CF car.
I think a researcher may have screwed the pooch on this one. Technically the Lotus 88 was the first to have a fully carbon fibre monocoque design, but it never raced. The McLaren MP4/1 was the second to unveil a fully carbon fibre monocoque chassis, and the first to race that chassis (in the third round of the '81 season).
Ferrari's '81 chassis was, I believe, a carbon fibre and aluminium honeycomb composite chassis.
It was
Seeing as you literally asked, Eigg is pronounced like 'egg' - /ɛg/. Just like an egg. Definitely never thought I'd come across Eigg in a Donut video though...
These videos makes our days better
These morning uploads are great
I'd love you guys to cover the F1 in some way! Great video as always. Love to all the Donut crew!
Yes pleaseeee live stream! New to this channel this week and I can’t believe what I am missing out on! Amazing channel!
Awesome content as always! live race commentary is a cool idea !
CFD is the best.
I also appreciate Creamy Functional Daddies
Top teams did used to spend $400m a year. There’s a cost cap in place now of $140m for 2022.
This was an awesome video. I have seen a few of your videos now and I am slowly becoming a huge fan. Thank you
My favorite tech from f1 is f duct. I love to cover with my hand the aircon ducts in the highway at high speed to reduce drag.
Science
Day 346 of asking Donut to bring old B2B back
And Science Garage
Up 2 speed brought me to Donut. But they included stories about people instead of sticking to cars.
i would watch a reaction of the gp as a live stream would be cool! you guys make great videos!
f1 and donuts aree sick!
I remember KERs in F1 and now I have it in my Focus.
I've been waiting for a video on this topic for ages and it's great. My most sincere congratulations
Yes Livestream watch party please. There won't be anything else exciting going on at the Monaco GP.
This was a great episode! Thanks Jerry!
love the videos you guys have taught me so much keep it up
Great informative video!! Thanks for your content guys.
DEFINITELY up for the F1 watchparty
Man I would love to see a experimental formula 1 with no rules in terms of engineering! Imagine the amount of cool things we could do! We would get the flaying car in no time for sure!!!
I love you guys at Donut. You make car information accessible to anyone and everyone. You are all very very funny. You make everything easy to understand. I just love this channel so much.
what a well put together video - great research, feels like the top essay written for an engineering applications class
McLaren group is actually split in McLaren Automotive and McLaren Applied Technologies. Shows you how big of a business it is
Same with Williams F1 and Williams Advanced Engineering.
Same with Williams F1 and Williams Advanced Engineering.
The feeling when your favourite channel upload a video on F1 is different
I can't believe Donut of all channels would spell brakes as "breaks" in their graphics
Analog Breaks too :(
Love the show! First time commenting. Flywheel energy storage (FES) is a type of battery "technically." Would have been cool to talk about the busses California used, briefly in the 50s I believe, utilizing the same rotational energy storage. Keep up the good work 🤟
Jerry is getting real weird with it and having the most fun and I love it
As a hybrid and electrical cars engineer, my mind is blown by this! What a great video!
One major thing that gets overlooked is the experience and methods of development for engineers. One of the reasons that Honda's stint in F1 in the late 90s/early 2000s was unsuccessful was that Honda had a policy where their new, young engineers would join the F1 program, and after a couple of years once they'd gotten good, be transferred back to the road car division. This obviously hurt the F1 team, but it meant that they had engineers and designers who'd spent time in the most high pressure environment with ridiculous restrictions on what they could do, and how they had to get thing X to fit in place Y and still meet target Z. The changes to the way they thought about engineering and design as a result were a huge positive for the road car division, and is one of the biggest examples of knowledge transfer from F1 to the consumer world.
I love these engineering/sciences videos keep it up!
Flywheel were used in Switzerland in the 60's on one bus line. Maybe a good story for a b to b....
Yeah bro! F1 Livestream hangout! Also, that list that includes the Carrera Gt, F50 and Valkyrie, are those all f1 powered engines too??
The Carrera GT and F50 is powered by an F1 engine
And the Valkyrie is developed by redbull
No, only the AMG One has an actual F1 power unit. Those others took inspiration from the aero and chassis design of F1 cars.
some cool technologies also trickled down from military, aviation, and motorcycle racing
Of course! Do it for This weekend. Or a live coverage for Miami
Ain't nothing better than Donut Media in the morning 💆
Love the F1 content ❤
I sure do miss the background crew laughing during funny comments
Great video guys, just thought I would mention that F1 teams now (due to some recent rule changes) have a budget cost cap of "only" 140 million.
My fav part of the morning. Watching donut media every day
A donut with breakfast
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PLEASE LIVE STREAM A F1 RACE. THAT WOULD BE FUN AS HELL.
That would be doooooope
f1 is boring lol
great video guys! nice work :)
The editing is gold. That MS Paint bit was perfect!
MORE F1, I love it!
nothing i love more than donut doing F1 content
YES! Do the Imola livestream! Great idea! Love the videos guys. Keep ‘em coming!
Love the F1 content! Keep it up guys..
You guys should do an episode on the liquid piston X engine
Love the F1 content, and like the idea of the F1 hang.. lick the stamp fellas
These are some of the best videos on CZcams!
I also missed CFD class in my degree 😀
but learned how to calculate drag and down force using CFD
Up to speed on James dad when
love the f1 content!
Best affordable thing that came from F1 is Bose headphones after Toto smashing them they got realy solid improvement and now they are indestructible
11:11 this blew my mind. such a cool concept.
All technological advancements come from rockets and racecars
And airplanes. ABS for instance.
Nope it doesn’t come from Rockets lol…..
There is also things like the oil industry from drilling to pressure systems…..
Technological leap happens when one does not care how much money one spends e.g. war effort and military related technologies or when mass is involved e.g. F1 (traffics and sponsorships)
yea the plaid may accelerate faster than the amg one, but can it corner as well?
Thé plaid is just a 0-60 machine, other vehicles/gas cars have way higher top speeds, cornering ability, lose weight…..
Is it faster tho? Nobody's even tested the amg one yet because it's not released and tesla can only do it's number in very specific conditions.
That "record" was with rolling start
Awesome video, is launch control of the things that everyone develop or is it one of the things that refined?
2:16 Anti-lock brakes --> "analog breaks" 😂 WHO did that??
"breaks"
Not a fan of F1, but I do love how the open wheeled cars design looks.
Congrats on being early and finding this comment 🥇
Ratio (come on y'all help me here)
Thnx
These spam channels are so crap can't wait till Google comes up with a way to pre-emptively block them.
Mirrors were first used on racecars in the 1910s or 20s. No road car would look the way it does today without mirrors, so that has to be up there as my favorite trickle down racing tech.
No laughing in the intro though hahaha, great video though, Love you JB and Donut!
Awesome video as always. Love B2B
I think one of the broadest technology improvement for the overall public that came from F1 is everything regarding sensors and data collection.
how he mentioned the mgu-h being implemented in merc cars. i am pretty sure that they are removing the mgu-h in 2026 for new engine regs because it is too expensive and not road relevant. and that corolla with that massive wing. good cars reference
9:23 What about the McLaren MP4/1, also the same year. Ferrari's 126C mostly relied on aluminium for the monocoque, but the MP4/1 made much greater use of carbon fiber for its chassis.
Love the F1 content! Can we get another motorcycle video sometime soon tho too?
2:15 love me some analog breaks 😂
10:08 "Still slower than a plaid" My favorite part of the video. LOL
Vacuum flywheel tech was also used in Audi’s R18 Etron Quattro LMP1 from around 2013
Come on bro, a completely ambiguous title and thumbnail show that the team was self-conscious on whether or not this video idea was good enough to draw in people based on what the video was about. You guys are so much better than that!
Great video again, the island is pronounced 'Egg', I have worked on both Eigg and Fair Isle as a commercial diver, they are beautiful but both very remote indeed!
What a sick topic. I've been wanting a video on this for ages. Keep up the F1 stuff, we need more 'muricans out here!
WOW. These are some things I did not know. It's really neat how Formula 1 originated all that technology that has advanced other places. I've never watched a full F1 race... I might just sit down one time this season and watch one!
Cirrus Aircraft employee here. Our SF 50 Vision jet is made almost entirely out of carbon fiber. Pretty sweet.
The flywheel hybrid system was used by Audi in the R18 and by Porsche in a GT car about 10 years ago. The Audi won Le Mans 24 hour overall a few times. Pretty amazing car!!
fawkkkkkk, props to the Editing guys. It must take a whole day to make this video, all the animations, to make your words match the typing, window swiping, looking pics of which go with what your saying.
Shout out to the Edit team!!!!😮😮😮
The GKN hybrid system from Williams is also in some London double decker buses.
Williams worked with Sainsburys supermarket to develop shrouds for the front of refrigerated open shelving units to redirect the cold air back onto the shelves, saving on wasted energy but also meaning you wouldn't freeze your ass off walking down the fridge isles.