The Council of Ephesus and the deification of Mary as 'Theotokos'. The Qur'an responds.
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- The Council of Ephesus was a council of Christian bishops convened in Ephesus (near present-day Selçuk in Turkey) in AD 431 by the Roman Emperor Theodosius II. This third ecumenical council condemned the teachings of Nestorius, Patriarch of Constantinople, who held that the Virgin Mary may be called the Christotokos, "Christ-bearer" but not the Theotokos, "God-bearer".
The Second Vatican Council in 1964 referred to Mary as 'Queen of the Universe'.
The increasing exultation of Mary led the Qur'an to condemn these excesses in the Christian religion:
And on Judgment Day God will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is hidden within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You alone are the Knower of all unseen. [Qur'an 5:116]
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger from Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not "Three": desist: It will be better for you: For Allah is One God: Glory be to Him: (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. [Qur'an 4:171]
I am trying to catch-up with old episodes. Oh my God... So many interesting episodes. Thanks
Same here!
Same here
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
I love this blog!
You are so welcome!
Amazing simplicity in delivering the significant ideas of the videos subject
Excellent succinct presentation 👍
To help us avoid making the same mistake the prophet Muhammad says (sorry for the loose translation, my own) "do not compliment me [in excess] as the Nasara did 'Isa the son of Mary. Say servant/[slave] of Allah and his messenger".
Mariolatry !
God has a mother ! 🤦🏻♀️
Library goals!
Salaams Paul.
Please tell us about the Council of Trent as I believe it is very relavent to subsequent European and world history as it was held at the time when 'the Protestant Ethic' was being 'ushered' in.
How shameful to talk of God having a spouse.
Surprised that Paul was not added as part of the divine, "4 persons but one god".
There's a short hop from biddah(innovation) to shirk.
Thank you for the explanation.
Would you please provide me with who said , when, where and the occasion that Mary Spouse of the Holy spirit 🤔
Mother of God sounds like such a goofy phrase
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Worshiping Mary by Catholics is done since early centuries till today. Whether she is devine or not, they still worship her.
Another great video, very interesting the trajectory from the synoptics to the 4th gospel. Mark has no birth narrative while matthew and luke both have one which both are severely flawed and disagree. Mark has no lineage but matthew and luke do and again, more inconsistencies.
It amazes me how xians can overlook these things and try to harmonize such beliefs. The more I study the nt the more I'm puzzled of 3 things. How can you believe eyewitnesses wrote these? How can you believe paul to be an apostle?, and how can you reconcile so many inconsistencies? For God's sake in Matthew's gospel 3 magi following stars give Mary gifts for jesus. WHAT? What would 3 zoroastrian clergymen have to do with jesus and why is it them? Why not 3 jewish high priests? I mean no disrespect but its just too much to overlook
well said
I don't even understand why Joseph (husband of Maryam [peace be upon her]) needed a lineage mentioned as his lineage has zero/zilch/nothing to do with Christ Jesus (peace be upon him).
Perhaps Paul could answer, I also have wondered, why the lineage of Joseph be mentined when he has nothing to do with Jesus at all? anyone knows? thanks Paul for your effort, may Allah grant you light in your face, words, and actions amin.
Seigneur Dieu ''Goodness'' the wife of GOD!!? Gloire à LUI le Tout PUISSANT
le Très HAUT, la terre se fendrait et les Montagnes s'ecrouleraient de ces propos infâmes.
👍👍👍 brother Paul.
Hello,
Do you have a video on the Council of Jerusalem ?
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10:43 Muslims submit to the will of God and therefore are the mothers, brothers or sisters of Jesus(pbuh). Alhamdulillah!😊
Interesting.
How can you present the Islamic argument as though it was reasonable when the Quran refers to Mary as one person in the Trinity?! 🙄
Obviously, the author of the Quran did not possess basic knowledge of the Christian God.
It might be worthwhile to analyze what role Artemis worship played in Ephesus at the time. Female deities were pretty fashionable. Perhaps absence of one was a barrier to evangelism.
Question: was Nestorius killed at the approval of Cyril and Celestine?
Paul's bible has added holiness. 😂😂😂😂😂
Just to ask When the Quran talls about the injeel
its not referreing to the new testamant
is it referrimg to completley different text??
The New Testament are simply texts talking about events, it is extremely similar to the ahadith in format. The Injeel was the revelation from God to Jesus.
The SDA Church also criticizes the Roman Catholic church Teaching concerning that.
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Just to get my timeline correct
The council ephesus 431 AD
And the council of Nicaea 325 AD
Both took place before the revelation of the quran?
As Muhammad came aprox 600 years after jesus?? Peace be upon them both
How can Jesus be the son and father of himself?
Show me where in the 66 books of the Bible tells us to pray to Mary, or to call her spouse of God ??
Marian devotion really doesn’t arise until the Theotokos affirmation at the Council of Ephesus in 431. In a sense, her cult was a by-product of Christological battles.
The moment you address prayer to someone other than God, then you took that 'someone' as your God.
People don't know the difference between Lord which ties to the Creator's acts and god which means one served or worshipped or ties to the creation's acts...
in Islam the only worthy God is the Creator but they forget other religions don't follow that when explaining Islam to them, as prayer is worship that ties to belief in Lordship & in other Faith's they pray to created beings...
Quran 6.56. Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): "I have been forbidden to worship those whom you invoke (worship) besides Allah." Say: "I will not follow your vain desires. If I did, I would go astray, and I would not be one of the rightly guided."
Quran 40.10. Indeed, those who disbelieve will be addressed,...
12. [They will be told], "That is because, when Allah was called upon alone, you disbelieved; but if others were associated with Him, you believed. So the judgement is with Allah, the Most High, the Grand."
60. And your Lord said: "Invoke Me, [i.e. believe in My Oneness (Islamic Monotheism) and ask Me] I will respond to you. Verily! Those who scorn My worship [i.e. do not invoke Me, and do not believe in My Oneness, (Islamic Monotheism)] they will surely enter Jahunnum in humiliation!"
Quran 72.18 - 26 is good to show sufi, she'uh, and kitabi grave worship is wrong or thinking the creation knows the unseen is shirk.
If you call out to other than Allah, you are a mushrik.
Yaa Hussein aghithnii or yaa Ali aghithnii....Are blatant forms of Shirk. And if you die like that, you are among the people of hell. Period.
I hate the mental gymnastics they played which had nothing to do with what Jesus preached. You can still see it today with tv pastors saying God has ordained that they need a private jet to do their work etc
There is no absurdity or a swamp bigger than Christian Theology.
So complicated.
Many people don't understand the concept of "share in divinity". Ie like the Pagan Quraysh saying the Angels are the daughters of ALLAAH and they have a say (independent authority) in the affairs and running of the universe. Ie the running of the universe is broken up into portfolios and divided among a few divine individuals with one deity taking the position as Chief Deity. Clearly this concept is borned out of human minds based on their experience with running of a state.
Thetokos is a powerful claim and statement. People don't realize how much influence and authority a mother have on a son, especially in the eastern world.
On this one count I would probably agree. Most protestants, if not all, would not and do not refer to Mary as “Mother of God”. As far as I can see there is no Scriptural/Biblical support for Mary’s exaltation in the understanding of the Roman Catholic/Orthodox Churches. In Acts 1 Mary is simply rferred to as “Mary, the mother of Jesus”. I personally prefer to limit my speach where Scripture limits it.
Luke 1:39-43 Elizabeth is filled with the Spirit and refers to Mary as "the mother of my Lord."
@@ImNotJoshPotter Yes "the mother of my Lord" NOT "the Mother of God". Furthermore even Jael (Judges 5v24) is refrred to as "the most blessed of women".
@@banzakidimye348 Who's our Lord?
@@ImNotJoshPotter Jesus is Lord.
@@banzakidimye348 Exodus 33:20
But He said, "You cannot see My face; for no man can see My face and live." Moreover, the Lord said....
So this is Jesus speaking? You can't see Jesus' face and live?
But just before this in 33:11 it says: Thus the Lord spoke to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend.
Also 34:26
The first fruits of your land you shall bring to the house of the Lord your God.
The eternal Quran has the eternal Mother of the book, right?
Quran is a Speech and does not have any mother.
There is witness that Mary ate food .
Since we sticking to the facts we should point out that Islam is not providing a corrective but rather that the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) has voiced an opinion on the subject. Anything beyond that becomes faith and belief-- which we are keen to avoid when dealing with historical matters. If Mohammad (pbuh) proclaims to be the conduit of God then surely we should not be placing limits on what God is capable of -- including manifesting himself as one of the creatures he dearly loves in order to guide them?
I do agree, however, that the metamorphosis of a woman into a divine being is rather silly and naive.
The catholic church follows the religion of babylon; thats where you will find the mention of ''the mother of God''.
I think that anytime human beings try to "define" God, there will be errors in our definition like the trinity. We only know of Allah through what he has revealed.
Very true, He is limitless and beyond all categories. His essence is unknowable but like you said, he reveals Himself through actions.
@@ImNotJoshPotter but God did give us a pretty simple way to know what isn’t in his nature to do such as Lying, Dying, being dependant, having equals & not having his Godly attributes etc. meaning God did not manifest as a limited human, loosing his knowledge & dying. Also God even in the Tanakh emphasised self accountability meaning Jesus peace be upon him, didn’t die for our sins. He was saved by God because that’s what the tanakh also prophecied & also God loved Jesus
God is Uni- Unity , an Absulute Unity with out any Plurality of Hypostases in Divine Essence\ Nature.
Some muslim barelvis also use the title aqa e kainat that means lord of the universe for Muhammad SAW. And they think this universe was created only for him. What similarities we see here. May Allah bring such muslims to the right path.
What are you talking about??!
@@damosoo4528 there is a sect of islam in india and pakistan caled barelvi. These people have such beliefs.
@@extraorchidinary6347 Never heared of them and this is meaningful.
In India there are a lot of people who think the cow whose meat I regularly eat is a god!!
Anything can happen India anyhow.
Barailvis believe that Holy Prophet is Al Mukhtar Al Kull and has the Quality of Kull Ilm Ma Kana wa yakun Ilal Qiyamah نعوذبالله
We have faced them. They declare all those who dispute them as Blasphemous .They do not even accept HolybProphet as a Bashar ( Human Being) like human beings.@@damosoo4528
To 'pray' just means to ask. When we pray to her we are not worshipping her we are simply asking her to pray for us. It would be like you asking a friend to pray for your wife if she was sick. The saints are now in the church triumphant and are constantly before the face of G-d interceding on our behalf. So if the prayers of the saints on earth availeth much, then so do the prayers of those in heaven.
Mary and the saints are dead and they are not going to hear the prayers, so why not pray directly to god himself.
But Mary (peace be unto her) and other saints are dead, they can’t hear your prayers so just pray directly to God.
Asking someone you know to pray for you is not the same, because you ask the person, personally…and then they go and pray for you, but those who are dead can’t hear you, God is the only one that’s omnipresent, all-knowing & all-hearing
please dont cal Mary dirty, we respect the brethen.
i dont worship or venerate Mary but treat her as with brethen in the body of CHRIST.
Mary is not part of the Trinity.
The Quran doesn't say that she is part of the Trinity.
GFY
No in islam "do not say three" refers to mary father and Jesus in Islam!
I appreciate your effort and your sincerity; I disagree with your Islamic spin on Jesus and Mary, because it ignores the Purpose of Creation which inheres in the religion of the Jews and Orthodox Catholic Christianity; and that purpose entails sanctification and apotheosis; GRACE OR FAVOR which is unmerited but received willingly by Mary to become the Mother of God's very incarnate entry into humanity. I see by your quote that you demote Jesus to the status of an Angel; that is heresy and of course thats the reason for the existence of Islam, to promote heresy through deference to a False Prophet
Please Paul tell them!!!!Can’t expect us to believe in this utter rubbish!!!!! No no no......
Give it up please!!! And seek psychiatric help!!!!
...recommend a powerful prescription. ... HolyQuran