Free Broken Generator - Will It Run and Make Power Again?
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- čas přidán 29. 12. 2020
- I recently came across the beautiful barely used generator for free on the FB marketplace, but the owner said it was broken. In this video we get it fixed up and running again! Thank you to James Condon for helping me troubleshoot this generator. Please check out his channel here / jcondon2007
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Big score on that find & fix! Congrats!
Do you have any sort of idea in your mind to build a rocket
⚠️very important announcements about portable generator safety:
This is just a reminder.
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules.
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
czcams.com/users/shortseFigDfnPkcQ?feature=share and here is a short video more about keeping others safe when using generators
Hope this helps. Remember safety first.
"I've tried nothing and am out of ideas...throw it away"
That's a nice score man!
Lol I'm definitely using that phrase 😁
@@ElementalMaker well please spread it around...i think I stole it from Futurama
In most cases anymore folks just don't know how to fix things.
@@ElementalMaker he definitely had more money than knowledge. Prob a doctor or lawyer if I had to guess.
15:30 I kind of love that mindset of the common folk it means free/extremely cheap stuff for us people who can't afford one new
Hell of a score there, nice! I think the mindset of "throw it away and buy another" is at least partially due to manufacturers making things less and less user serviceable nowadays and even going so far as to sue people who try to repair them *cough* Apple *cough*.
100% agreed. I follow Louis Rossman who's a right to repair advocate and owns an apple repair store, and it seems like in short order no phones are going to be repairable.
You cannot beat free 99, also, spending 5.7143% (I used the numbers you dropped plus the spark plug and rounded up to about $80.00) less than the cost of a new machine, Out Fucking Standing!
@@ElementalMaker Mr. New York real estate himself LR. lol. Love that guy.
Nice score! My wife is one of the “just buy a new one” camp. Drives me crazy. Love the channel!
Several years ago, I was on a lot of drugs - but it gave me the desire, energy, gumption and wherewithal to swan dive into my hobbies. I still had most of my hobbies prior to the drugs - but with the drugs, I had the attention span, energy and desire to sit and read, learn, build and experiment for days at a time without sleeping. I got pretty deep into electronics and learned a hell of a lot. I've got two sheds and a room full of old electronic junk, components and tools.
Dumpster diving was another big hobby - you'd be shocked at the perfectly functional or easily fixable electronics people throw out. Desoldering the components from that stuff is where I got most of my parts. And fixing the dumpster stuff up and trading it and/or fixing stuff people brought to me was how I supported my "habits".. I was getting into some very interesting stuff by the time I decided to quit all drugs.
I wasn't like a "master" or anything - probably more like "intermediate" in the full scope of things. But people were always calling me "the scientist" and "the wizard" because I could fix about 99% of anything anyone brought to me. I remember when I first started getting to the point where I could reliably fix stuff, it was one of the greatest feelings in the world to me to be able to take a broken and/or discarded device and make it functional/useful again. And I remember the brushes in old drills and tools used to be pretty frustrating.
I quit drugs in 2016-2017ish and I still haven't regained my energy and desire to partake in my hobbies. That's the long way of saying, watching videos like this really make me want to have hobbies again lol... And I agree with your opinion on the wasteful "buy a new one" mindset, but like you said, it can be really beneficial to people who can fix stuff.
I know exactly what you mean.... I hope you just force yourself to do it again. The energy and drive will come back when you get to experience the feeling of fixing/tinkering again. Muscle memory so to speak is a great thing. Don't stagnate and let the time slip away... get up, get at it and don't look back!
You are better than the drugs. Your repair skills are needed. Pulling for you! 👍
OK that's it, my dad wants his generator back.
Begrudging & jealous thumbs up - that's a hell of a find mate.
Haha thank you Matthew!
That's what I call a bargain! Those Honda engines are lovely to work on as well. So much better that the Briggs & Stratton stuff.
And yeah, the disposable world means that dumpster diving[1] (whether literal or metaphorical) is always fun!
1. Known as 'skipping' in the UK as 'dumpsters' are called 'skips'!
That is such a come up its crazy, no where will u find that for 100. Keep rising man, i want this channel to boom
Thank you!
I hate how CZcams doesn't recommend me your new uploads. Finding this a month or so later but still that's one lucky find.
I would say to hit the notification bell, but I don't even know if that helps nowadays. The CZcams algorithm doesn't seem to like this channel 😒
@@ElementalMaker seems CZcams had set me to "personalized" instead of all notifications. Hopefully I'll get the next one on time.
I found your channel due to James recommendation.
Nice catch on getting the generator for cheap and an easy repair.
As a new sub I have some catching up to do.
Thanks for sharing
Really nice find. Glad you got it
Great win !! All best from Croatia !
Very nice. I love your diagnostic skills.
Great find!
great find this, all the best for the new year. 👍
Congrats on a big win! I had a non running cheapo chinese 1200 watt give to me and I've used it for several years since fixing it. Free is always good!
Good job sir! Well done! Thank you for the video and information!
Ngl thought this was a mustie1 video when i clicked the thumbnail, great video have a safe holiday.
Stay safe. Be careful using portable generators czcams.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/video.html here’s a video about keeping your family safe while using generators. Just hoping you stay safe and other people. Thank you
Huuuuge win for You. Congrats!
Nice score man! Probably about as giddy as I was when I scored a working SGI Octane two years ago for free. Happy new years!
Happy new years! What the heck is an sgi octane? Never heard of that one
Awesome job
GOOD FIND!
Awesome video. Learned a ton!!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed! 👍
Nice score👍
Nice score I got my Miller stick welder generator for free too carb was gummed up and the brushes were missing 100 bucks later ran perfect.
That's a sweet score! 👍
Great score. I have a few little scores to fix up as well and looking forward to it. But because of your channel, I've got the potassium-based oxygen rocket bug that is distracting me! 🤣
That's a fun bug to catch! 😁
Send the avr to Big Clive, so he can do a tear-down. Happy new year EM!
Awesome deal 👌 😎 well done 👏 ✔ Happy New Year 😀
"Lookin' at the ass of the machine..." Subbed, the man talks like I do!!
Happy new year's
Nice!
I love this shit, dump shops are also a great way to get electrical stuff for next to nothing and the satisfaction you get when you fix it is awesome, just did it with a Sick Delonghi Nespresso coffee machine and a washing machine. Best part is I didn’t have to gargle an Amazon staff member to get parts 🤣
"gargle their employees taint sweat" Lmfao. Thank you. gotta steal that line.
I have always liked these "Broken (insert item name here)...can it be fixed?" videos. Seems to me that if one were to get technical EVERYTHING can be fixed if every single part were to be replaced.
Sweeeeet! I guess that's the great thing a 'trickle down' economy. 😂 Folks with lots of money buy the latest & greatest but when whatever they've bought gives them a little trouble & requires a little bit of handy work & extra love, they just chuck it & the frugal folks with a little bit of know-how take full advantage. It's why I love thrift-stores & garage sales! Great job & thank you for your videos! I almost always learn something new & you always entertain. 👍
Reminds me of my 75Gal 5HP upright compressor. The unit goes for over $500 and I picked it up for $75 because it "Will fill up once and then has to cool off for 20 minutes or more". The thing did just that... got HOT... and I mean HOT after filling up to 120PSI (Rated to 150).... the thing that tipped me off to what was the issue was when he said the previous guy tried to fix it and replaced some parts and thinks maybe a pully...... It was being overdriven by about 2 times what it should not only bogging the motor but running the piston WAY faster than it should. Sure did fill it's tank quickly though... bet if I could find a way to have cooled it (Water cool maybe...lol) that would have been great to have twice the sustained flow than what it was rated for... but I bet the bearings, crank and pistons wouldn't have been happy for long.
Put the correct ratio pully on the motor and compressor and she runs for hours, doesn't overheat and produces enough air for all my air tool needs.... I was laughing since the replacement pully was gotten for free by picking up a few "Dead" compressors online until I found the parts I needed. Also got a few portable compressors to boot after rebuilding the ones that were still worth it like the one that "Doesn't do anything" and was due to a disconnected neutral wire. One mans trash is another mans gold I tell you what!
I have gotten three generators that way, the last one was a Honda suitcase an EB2200i-1800watt. The only thing wrong with it was the electrical connector to the he front power board was loose.
Nice! Can't beat that!
Well done mate! Actually I could do with an underpriced almost-new car... Just sayin
Haha couldn't we all
oh shit thats a find. really encourages you to look around sites like craigslist in their free section once a day or so.
I wonder if it would have worked if you just cleaned the slip rings an/or changed the brushes? Nice find though. I got a free generator but it was suffering from a stuck valve which just needed a tap down a couple of times until it would follow the cam again.
Yeah I may have to try the old AVR just to see if it is okay. I imagine it is fired though, might be worth another investigational video.
Dontcha just love people with money? I ended up with a Wolfe Microwave oven that "quit working". Wolfe Microwaves are the Bentleys of microwaves, the one I received was worth 1000$ new. So, I get to the address and put the MW in my van and the guy asked me if I know how to install MWs, told him yes, so I went ahead and installed it for him just because I got a free MW. I got it home plugged it in and pushed the start button and NADA, nothing... the panel worked no issues, took off the front panel and found the door switch was loose. Put the switch back in place and WALA!!! The wifey loves this thing!!! BTW, its not an American thing, its a rich person thing... the guy I got the MW from wasnt American... he was FEEEELTHYYYY Rich. :)
That's a great win!
Lucky!
Subbed.
Nice score! Just out of curiosity do you have any degree in engineering? Or did you learn by trade?
I got a free Honda EMS4000, old, and it sat around a long time, but I'm going to try to fix it, so thanks for this. So far it won't start, might have to rebuild or replace the carb.
More money than sense, lol. Or so much money it didn't pay for him to mess with it.
Do you like MAF or Electrical Contact Cleaner for jobs like that?
Do you ever add supplemental heat sinking?
Sorry my dyslexia got best the me of.
0:04 looks brand new!
3:00 ok it's been used :D
Make sure you set the frequency to 62Hz before you adjust the AVR
Damn! I spotted that honda motor from the thumbnail!
depending how that cap in the avr is connected the original might have been too low a voltage rating
Can we talk About " How to moonshine? " next time please? :) happy new year!
I have a video on making ethanol that I did probably around a year ago
I got a free one myself a few years back. Came out of stepdads folks estate. Nobody wanted it since it would not fire up. $12 eBay carb fixed that. Initially it would not produce any electricity at all. I was getting fed up and revved the shit out of it then it started working.
Next day I went by the store they had bought it from to see if I could find out what it cost, it was just over $1800 😳. Yamaha is apparently very proud of their shit.
Damn that's a win!
You are famous for things coming in the nick of time, I hear.
one man's meat is another man's poison... big wheel turns, you lucky dude.✌😷🙏
And now I am scouring craigslist for one...
Like a sore peter... can't beat it!
😂
i love the AvE reference
I'm convinced you're like 25 with a unnaturally deep voice
If you're actually an old fart you seem like you take good care of yourself
Your half right, I've had this voice since I was 13 years old lol. But sadly not 25. Not an old fart either though.
Again I need to talk about the misunderstanding regarding the discoloration of the slip rings. That is actually how it SHOULD be! The dark surface is dry lubrication! It is built with the aid of some atmospheric humidity out of the carbon brushes. Without humidity you would see a clean copper surface and plenty of carbon dust all over, until the brush is worn out, and probably starts binding in the holder. After that, there is increased resistance and possible voltage controller failure. So, please don't "clean" out the built up lubricating layer. If anything, check the free movement of the brush in the holder and of course, measure the resistance from the brush wires through the rotor.
I didn't show all my diagnostic tests in the video, but when testing the rotor resistance through the brush connections I had a high reading of around 100ohms. Removed the brushes, and tested on the discolored area of the slip rings and it was very difficult to get a consistent reading. After cleaning the slip rings I was able to consistently get a 57ohm reading for the rotor on the slip rings. The coating on the slip rings was definitely high resistance in this case.
Please. First check the liquids, oil and cooling water (if any). Then check if it's running.
Ah yes another video nice
I like your icon. Ruger is a great manufacturer.
But does the 220-240v side work
It does indeed 😁
I think you meant to say ".....The guy that got rid of it.......Had More Dollars Than Sense"
Sorry that's my kicking in dyslexia
@@ElementalMaker LOL! or is it OLO?
Oh Hell yes. I would have jumped on that thing too. That would have complimented my 10Kwh Solar System most well. Years ago I came across a deal somewhat like that. ONAN 5Kw. Just needed to replace the control board. Working for a Microwave radio outfit I was able to scavenge one from they're bone yard.
Ooh man I really want to get a solar setup going. Going to do a small solar setup for the new shed as a test bed
@@ElementalMaker Go with LiFePo4 cells. They can be had quite cheap if you look around. Mine will outlive me for sure. Use ground mount. Screw that roof thing . I'm to old for that. I was able to find some Used unused 50Ah cells for like $400 configured as 2P4S. 100 Ah. Picked up 6 sets. Came out of Unsold Solar Generators by lion Energy.
Man i never get lucky like that.. like mustie1.. that dude has the luck of a leprechaun.. like every video he pulls a free machine up in and fixes em up with parts from other free shit he got...
yay and AvE/musti1 video xD
At least you get a free engine for powering bicycle/go kart
Where’s Dew Claw when ya need him huh!
Not to mention Ridgid usually has a "Lifetime Guarantee" on their products.
at my work we use a lot of computers with uninterrupted power supplies. whenever one breaks they throw it away and they get themselves a new one Well I wait until it's in the recycle bin dumpster and then I go dumpster diving I have five in my house 9 out of 10 times it just needs a new battery.
If you fix this again, do it right. This set (link) will polish your rings well. We used this type of abrasive eraser for cleaning the commutator bars on the ships service motor generator on a frequent basis. It would get the surface nice and smooth and shiny allowing for better contact between the bushing and current bearing surface.
www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B089B5GHNS/
ACE!!! 👍🌶🇬🇧🇺🇸
damn... Ya-know stupidity has been running rampant for a long time...
35 years ago, our neighbors daughter married a law-student who never changed the oil in his brand-new car...
It took a couple years, but the engine shot-craps and he couldn't figure out why...
Her father was a Lathe-turner/machinist... I used to pop-in now-n-then to see what he was up-to...
Was always doing something in his garage... Dude rebuilt the motor on an opposing cylinder BMW motorcycle...
Chopped the frame on a VW Bug to build a dune-buggy... He also played guitar & trumpet...
Unfortunately he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's and passed away at 66yo in 1996...
My first investigation would be the Brushes.
Good intuition! That was probably the root cause of the avr failure
@@ElementalMaker The cells I purchased are labled TOP band some what like these. www.ebay.com/itm/4Pc-3-2V-100Ah-LiFePO4-battery-pack-iron-phosphat-Motorcycle-Electric-Car-Solar/393072625465?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225074%26meid%3Dd69f3d6591854911badc54dacb08648a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D184581905636%26itm%3D393072625465%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithDarwoV3BBEV2b%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
I know your no ave... But your close that's definitely a compliment
Haha thank you
@@ElementalMaker conspiracy theory here but I bet you are ave if not I'm gonna keep watching anyway lol
Even at free, I am not sure it's worth getting anywhere near Fakebook. Good score though. Hope your holidays are progressing well.
That's a good point!
I bet somebody told him that wd was good for cleaning electrical contacts, well I've known people like the previous owner and if it says penetrating oil in a spray can then to them it's wd and I happen to know from personal experience as a teen ager silcone oil can have high di electric properties and pretty much ruin slip rings, BUT ,there is a chemical that can degrease it Tri-chloroethane 1,1,1, stabilized but it's really hard to find I think carbon tetra-chloride will too.
Don’t forget about generator safety as well czcams.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/video.html just hoping you stay safe and here’s a video about keeping your family safe while using portable generators. Thank you
Free is free and if the motor runs then thats a total score.
Absolutely! 👍
I thought for a moment that this was a mustie1 video
I'll have to check out that channel, a couple other folks have mentioned that as well
@@ElementalMaker mustie1 is great. He has a lot of invaluable tecnhiques for working on very old engines that have horrible corrosion & seizures. Plus he has a very impressive ever growing horde. Sometimes it's all about the horde, you know. I just added a couple of humidifiers to mine.
@@ElementalMaker I recommend it! Lots I'd nuggets of engine mechanic wisdom from that guy
@@ElementalMaker Mustie1's channel is really excellent, you'll love it. He's a very knowledgeable and laid back guy who loves engines (and other mechanical things), he is especially knowledgeable about old VW vehicles, especially the Beetle (which he works on from time to time). czcams.com/channels/cSeeATlWJJbXpOZRYOfaDg.html
@@SlartiMarvinbartfast Awesome thank you! Looking forward to watching some of his videos!
Those brushes have no copper in them which is a sign of cheapo brushes. Good brushes have a copper based mix of graphite and copper( sometimes beryllium also) which makes for low resistance and longer life.
Good to know 👍
Omg fall in shit come out smelling like a rose 🌹 .. nice score
It's a honda I would expect no less. Any more and I would question it
LOL good point. Can't beat a Honda
The ummm flux capacitor is not working correctly it isnt ummmm jiving with the elbow grease lmao
extra chooch man
nice 👌 it might have been an essential back-up. Say it was for his wifes iron lung machine, oh not the best example the less air she gets the quieter she would be. 🤦♂️🎅🎅🎅
Lucky dog
Chicken dinner right there.
Yeah... it works now. But who knows what will happen in 128 hours
Awesome find! Completely jealous.
Also, as always, keeping us on our toes with 'blue' commentary.
'gargle underpaid employees..."
And
'hide and go f#@k yourself'
Hahaha
Keep being you man!
Fucking jelly as shit but good shit man!
I lost a deal on one similar. Unlimited regrets.
Ahhh man thats a bummer
If it's for free it's for me and I'll take two
I'll give you 200 bucks for it, but you have to pay the shipping! Lol!
What a deal! 😂
Another awesome video Mustie..umm I mean EM... ;) Love your channel..I think it's time you showed your face! (No matter how ugly you are) :)
What is the mustie channel? Your the second comment mentioning it and now I'm curious
@@ElementalMaker Mustie1 - czcams.com/channels/cSeeATlWJJbXpOZRYOfaDg.html
it's even just 80 hours in hexadecimal 8)
This is very timely for me. I am looking for a 9000 watt continuous usage genset that has to certified to produce "Clean Power". Clean power is defined as (taken from the welding machines manual) "NOTE:
Never operate the welder on a generator that is not certified by its manufacturer to be “clean” power, which is considered to
be less than 5% total harmonic distortion. Operating the unit on a square wave output or modified sine wave generator is strictly prohibited. Contact the manufacturer of the generator for this information. E******t does not have an “approved” list of generators. But, if the generator is not listed as clean power by its manufacturer, then operation is prohibited. Generators that do not at least meet the operating input requirements of the welder should not be used with the welders. Surge amp capability of the generator should equal or exceed the maximum inrush demand of the welder. But the surge capability should not be used as the only factor. The regular, running output of the generator should match or exceed the running or “rated” demand of the welder. Any damage done by operating the welder on a generator not specified by its manufacturer
to be “clean”, will not be covered under warranty. This also includes suspect power sources where voltage is below 208 V and
above 250 V."
Anyone have any recommendations?
From what I've found the rigid generators have a thd max of 5%. Running watts is only rated for 8000 though on the current model they sell. Costco has a very similar looking model for much cheaper rated for 8200w running and 10,000w starting and it also says thd less than 5%
@@ElementalMaker Would that be the Firman P08004 10,000 W Gas Powered Portable Generator with remote? It's the only one I see on the Costco.ca site. On the American site there is A-iPower 8200W Running / 10000W Peak Gasoline Powered Portable Generator with Electric Start.
@@oh8wingman ah I didn't realize you were up in the arctic north. Unfortunately I was referring to the AI power one, I'm not sure about that particular firman model, it may be worth calling them or Costco and seeing if they know the thd
@@ElementalMaker Will do. Thanks for your help. Amazon was selling the A1 here but they are out of stock and don't know when they will be getting more. In any event, getting answers from some of these outfits/suppliers is like pulling wisdom teeth with a pair of vice grips and a hammer......... I called one outfit and I had to explain to them what THD was. It didn't give give me a warm fuzzy feeling about possibly dealing with them.
Ha Score good work mate one mans trash .............
Happy new year fella oh also if your into high voltage antics check out my channel xray transformer chaos 4ft arcs 10kw vttc .. 800A half bridge driver and so on...if not take care
Steve
You meant to say the man had more money than cents because if he had the way you said it you would not be making this video 🤪
Mustie1 wants to know your location.
its a corporate taught mindset some people have. buy once cry once is what anyone who isnt an idiot thinks. not an "american mindset" lol