Harley Race & Bruno Sammartino Shoot on Ric Flair
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The fact that Bruno considered having good conduct out of the ring such an important says a lot about the man. He just seems like a really sweet person.
hes jelous of flair
This entire interview should be posted in its entirety for the sake of posterity and history. To see the NWA icon and WWWF icon together is something else. RIP to both of them.
I agree 100%
I agree, however, technically this was a debate not an interview.
We learned nothing from this interview
Two of the greatest champs of all time. Icons in the ring. R.I.P BRUNO, HARLEY
Two left badasses. If I were a wreslete and got wither of their seal approval I'd be set for life. They don't make men like this in general esp in this age
This video should have millions of views. It's sad that for perhaps the first time in history we have two of the all-time greatest wrestlers sitting side by side talking kayfabe! My god, 30 years ago this would have been absolutely impossible to ever imagine! It's sad that most of the fans who really truly appreciate this either haven't found it yet or just aren't around anymore. This would have been earth-shattering back in the days when cable TV ruled all media.
RIP to both legends
Preach Maxxx, preach buddy!
Since there are Professional Wrestling Conventions, Meet and Greets at Wrestling Shows, Panels, WrestleMania Axxess Sessions, SummerSlam Axxess and other Professional Wrestling related events around North America, Europe and Asia, these instances happen far more than you know. I remember meeting and talking to NWA World Heavyweight Champion Harley Race and AWA World Heavyweight Champion Nick Bockwinkle a number of years ago at WrestleMania Axxess and my Brother and I were like Kids at a Candy Store. Sometimes you never know whom you will meet.
I love how Harley doesn't want to bury Flair, you could see it on his face lol.
He didn’t want to bury Flair Harley passed the torch to Flair.
Harley helped make ric .
Flair and Harley were good friends, plus honestly Flair was a lot more popular than Harley. Sorry, that's the truth.
He didn’t bury Ric because Ric is the GOAT. Bruno was very popular in his area and Ric was very popular in his area, but in my opinion Ric is way better than Bruno over all. Ric has the top 10 best interviews of all time and can put on a show in that ring. I am sure Ric’s gold belt, custom made suit, and one of his robes cost more than Bruno’s house. Just remember this, when Bruno was signing autograph’s for his fans, Ric was kicking 5 girls out of bed, Woooooo.
@@JA-pm4pu he’s still a lot way popular than race. flair even has a hit song named after him, not even a discussion
What made rick great was a combination of things, not just ring work. It was personality, promo ability, charisma & gimmick. He had it all & there aren’t many who can say that.
Zero charisma and and cringe pathetic very tragic gimmick
Ric's greatest attribute as champ was his ability to get the local guy over and somehow walk out with the belt either by count out or DQ or maybe cheated him. Whatever it took to make the local talent look good Ric would do. He never dominated his matches. He was the perfect heel champ
Bruno Sammartino looks like an old Jack Kirby comic book character
Two true icons sitting side by side. Talk about a real treat! Thank you!!!
You ain't shitting David Allan Coe
@Leonardo London Nah, I'll pass.
I hate the fact that these two amazing men are no longer with us. 😢
but Ric Flair is.........the end
@@Iceman97913 Crazy. Further proof that there is no god, no cosmic justice.
@@stephenjones1488 maybe a god. But that Jesus died for you sins is 100% bs. Woooo
@@stephenjones1488 Rick still did not reach age of Race but i doubt he can surpass Bruno.
Did Harley Race look old at 20 or does he look young at 80? Who knows lol
He was actually 341 years old when he died
So good, was thinking something similar.
😂
Same with Arn Anderson, he's looked 50 since he was 20
The answer is "yes," Eric.
The king Harley Race being humble
not humble , he did not agree with Bruno. so he was quiet.
Harley was put in such a tough spot...trying to be diplomatic since He and Flair have a deep mutual respect for one another....yet.....Bruno brought up some great points. Tough to compare Rasslers from different era's simply because so many factors existed.....good and bad. Same really goes for any sport. I will say Ric is a Legend...as is Harley and Bruno...nuff said on Who's The Greatest.
Yeah but I thought Bruno had lot of nerve to say that about Flair! Yes, Flair had his trademark "Flairisms" but you can say that about a LOT of wrestlers, and some fans might be disappointed if they aren't there, what prevents matches from being repetitive are the order in which they appear and the finishes! And part of the fun about Flair was figuring out which dirty trick he would use to escape defeat! Whenever he won fairly, we were pleasantly surprised!
I was a bit of a Bruno fan, too and his matches were "Kick,punch, kick,punch.....badguy takes control, Sammartino gets angry, " kick,punch,kick....swing to the ropes, bear hug, badguy can't take pain and submits! IF a heel escapes with an eye gouge, Bruno found some other way to win! And this was the "same" for many nights but we. LOVED it!
To me it became more of a WWWF/WWF v. NWA clash of STYLES! Standig up and walking around against down on the mat grappling and body slamming! I grew to prefer the NWA or " Southern" style but occasionally liked Vince Sr.'s preference for having Babyface champions!
@@pulsarstargrave256 Great points! I too enjoyed Bruno and to be fair too, Flair, when he was in his prime had some awesome hour long matches with some outstanding competitors and those matches were anything but repetitive!
"And I consider this, a sport" I totally agree with you Harley. The "sport" of pro wrestling died when Harley no longer was champion. Pro wrestling died when kayfabe died. Sighhhh what we have today is not pro wrestling. It shouldnt even be attatched to the lineage of pro wrestling. What we have today is reality tv/social media/sports entertainment acting.
I have to agree with you, I don’t even watch anymore. It’s all been lost and what’s left doesn’t share any dna with professional wrestling of just a few decades ago
@@tigermachine6471 Agreed!
Pro wrestling has always been about acting and entertainment kid. The in ring work now is 10 times better than what you saw back then. I don't mean all of the dives and flips some guys do. I mean the guys who know how to work now are better works than guys like Harley Race and Bruno.
@@googlemyself4091 your comment made me think of Dax Harwood immediately.
Completely true. I caught on when I was young on that the combat in pro wrestling was not real, but I didn't want the wrestlers to be telling me that. Maintaining the illusion--at least in part--was its whole appeal.
Those two were real MEN! Both were legends! RIP X2
I always hear that Flair put on the same match but all the years watching him it never got old.
What I've about flair is that every match had a differnt finish, yes he used the. Same spots during his matches but what wrestler doesnt
Flair's later years matches were all the same. Early in his career though the matches were different depending on his opponent.
@@jameschilders7423 exactly - there's only so many moves and all of them use the same ones over and over. the idea that Bruno Samartino thinks he was more exciting than Flair is hilarious. lets see - Bruno uses a headlock and and arm bar, cant think of anything else.
@@RedroomStudios finally someone other than me who says the truth about bruno. all bruno did was punch and bodyslam.
After the plane crash, Flair was more limited.
Two absolute wrestling legends….they brought joy to many…easy journey to both.
Ric was a member of WWW. Wrestling, Whiskey, Women.
God it's sad these two legends have ventured into the great beyond.
The argument "once you have seen 5 Flair matches, you have seen them all" could be applied to so many of the greats tho. Bret Hart and Hogan wrestled the same match over and over and no one gives them crap for it.
I always found Flair's matches entertaining, especially if he was a heel and was doing his "dirtiest player in the game" routine with all the low blows and the hidden brass knucks etc.
Yes, that characterization was lame, and it totally discounts Flair’s overall contribution as a wrestler, entertainer, and “salesman” of the business. We can not just gloss over how difficult being the traveling NWA champion was. I would still rank Race ahead of him. I never tired of seeing Harley Race work…
One of the greatest moments in my life, Harley Race came to my house in Buckner, Mo and asked for directions to Truman road.
Bruno will always be the greatest. I got a Rhodesian Ridgeback and as soon as I saw a picture of a grown male the only name that came to mind was Bruno. I saw Harley a lot against Dusty and Rick he was also great.
What's a Rhodesian Ridgeback have to do with it?
@@chrisyetman1 I was giving the reason why I named my dog a Rhodesian ridgeback Bruno. Like Bruno Sammartino a ridgeback has a large chest is extremely powerful.
Harley Race and Bruno Sammatino Both are The Greatest Of All Time
They are really good, but they are not Ric Flair. Ric’s interviews put him way over everybody else, period.
Two great legends! RIP
Both of these guy Bruno and Harley are Class Acts but Nick bockwinkel also was a Class Act when you talk about great love the way they could not say who was the best
Not only that, what about Giant Baba? And Verne 🙂
@@FIXTREME you are right thanks for the comment
Two Legends one from NWA/WCW and one from the WWWF/WWF, One American Strong Man, One Tough as Nails, Both champions and both very dangerous!! 👨🏫🧠
God, bless both there souls. RIP.
Thank you, for the year's of greatness. ❤
Harley Race and Haku, by all accounts the two Real Deal Legit baddest dudes in real life
lol, HAKU never beat a professional fighter in his life. biting the nose off a bar drunk toughguy is not beating a pro fighter.
@@MrMferg240 u better peep Haku's full street fight resume cause all the OG wrestlers got stories about Haku thumping heads. 😂
@@danielwilson9724 i'm not questioning his toughness, i'm saying i never heard one story of him beating up a PROFESSIONAL fighter.street fighters are not professional fighters.wrestlers are tough guys, but they are not professional fighters.
@@MrMferg240 Just because they are professional fighters, doesn't mean they are legit fighters outside of their respective combat sports. Heck i would bet my money on Prime Inoki against any MMA fighters of today. Not because you got the word "Professional" on Fighter, it already means you can't be beaten by a Wrestler or by common people.
@@KaitoRyuga to use an analogy...take the best fighter in the NHL. anyone of them. if they fought a pro boxer, what do you think would happen? they would get destroyed.i do believe with proper training there are pro wrestlers who could do very well in mma.one guy in particular in his prime BRUNO SAMMARTINO, IF HE WAS TRAINED I TRULY BELIEVE HE COULD HAVE BEEN A TOP NOTCH MMA guy simply on his toughness and ability to take a pro punch like he did when he sparred with SONNY LISTON.they were so impressed with the shots LISTON hit him with that he couldn't put BRUNO down.they tried to convince him to forget wrestling and become a boxer.
Flair is the greatest by a mile. He had the in ring ability to carry anyone he entered the ring with, and his mic skills out of this world, no one even close. Not to mention the incredible schedule he kept, traveling the world, and he built up his opponents like no one else.
But what he's saying is valid guys like ric flair had similar matches, he will start weaker or even will cheat and will win end, not saying he was bad, but bruno wasn't wrong he didn't like this style the same way we don't like the 50 minute matches while 90% was holds, from the 50's
Flair dropped a belt to a wasted Kerry Von Erich and made it believable.
@@scoonman Von Erich was absolute garbage but Flair made him look amazing. Flair did the same thing with countless opponents. Flair was ALL ABOUT the wrestling business. Sure, he did a lot of the same moves, night after night, but it did not matter. People still filled arenas around the world to watch him.
Two legitimate tough guys. Either one of them could walk into any bar room in the country on any given night and take on all comers. Without legitimate tough guys you could never have a rick flair.
They were real catch wrestlers. Catch wrestling is a great martial art.
Harley was the best. Period
Harley Race could literally do anything in or out of the ring. Even slammed Andre the Giant before anyone else. The all time great. Harley made wrestling real.
From what I heard is that Andre is scared of Race
For me Bruno was the greatest. Harley is right up there.
I would say Captain Insano even though he was discourteous to me recently
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Only the Real heads will know 😂😂😂
Underrated comment.
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Maybe,but he ain't no Thunderlipps!!!
Looks like they are in the showcase showdown on price is right.
Nice interview. Love these men.
Really cool to have these two under one roof for this shoot!
Two men's men. Loved it thanks for the upload. RIP to both they were both fine gentlemen.
Damn when did these two legends get down with K5 commentaries? This would be better if Sean was on camera but still I hear him doing his thing. Much props to getting these two guys rest in peace to both of them
I would say (in alphabetical order) Bob Backlund, Ric Flair, Harley Race, Bruno Sammartino, Lou Thesz
I think as far as legit wrestlers "tough guy " . Backlund and Thesz . As far as performers all are good , but Flair was the best . Flair had the mic skills and he was great in the ring. Backlund lacked in the mic dept and didn't always look sure of himself in the ring.
I guess the opinion would depend if you were a fan of the WWF(E) or the NWA .
For me , it will always be Harley Race . Race was so good in the ring and could sell a match . The guy could sell you the shirt off your own back .
Got to see Race a lot here in Stl , along with Flair , Rhodes and other greats of that era .
Every wrestler in that era will tell you , if you made it to Stl then you were doing well in the business .
Miss the regional wrestling shows .
@@mikeaubuchon8573 no question about it . Race was great .
@Mastodon1976 HHH not even close to the guys from the 60's , 70's 80's .
@Mastodon1976 hhh is definitely in the rank
Not the 1st time I've heard that knock on Flair. The thing is that Flair (along with Roddy Piper) was probably the greatest heal. And that's why many believe he was the greatest wrestler.
Bruno was a goody 2 shoes. He says what makes a great world champion as far as qualifications and didn’t realize flair hit on all of them
Imagine a real fight between these two in their prime !!!!
Flair,Bruno,Race are amongst the greatest ever that’s for sure
Harley Race is hands down the greatest world wrestling champion of all time .... period
Agreed. Race could adapt to any style, was both authentic and safe, and had excellent psychology. If I could only watch the work of one wrestler, it would be Race.
Brunos nose once held the cruiserweight champion belt.
I think Bruno Samartino and Harley race without a doubt the greatest wrestlers champions entertainers of all time!
So great to see so many posts as both Harley and Bruno have passes I watched wrestling starting from the 1960’s and was always a heel guy but to this day I put Bruno, Backlin, Flair, Harley among the greatest ever. On that next level just hairs behind Are Terry Funk, Dusty, Black Jack Mulligan, Sting, Dick Stator, Killer Kowalski, Ray Stevens😅😅 I missed many more. Best Tag Teams: Road Warriors, Monguls, Kangaroos, Executionets
Come on guys! This should've been called "Conversation on Mount Olympus"!😎B.W.
Bruno was a absolute gem and legend
Two of the greatest!!!
I get to look at the greatest champions of wrestling speak…… Bruno Sammartino and Harley Race.
To of the greatest of all time rip
Thanks Everyone such great opinions about such s great sport and still in my late 60’s love it. Funny side bar. In 1968 While in 8th grade WWF had a local match in my area. As we were pulling into parking lot The Mongols Tag Team were getting out of a bus and I got to shake their hands. Ivan Koloff was on the card wrestling Victor Rivera. Someone threw an egg into the ring
and Koloff smashed into Rivers’s face. Don’t remember who won but Kowalski and George Steele Were both on the Card. Great memories
The two Legends !
Great Heels make Great Champions
Boy Harley hasn't aged since his time in wwf. He looked 80 then too
God Rest both these tremendous men's Souls!
In my opinion, one of the greatest workers, ever, and very underrated is
Johnny "Rubber man" Walker. More affectionately remembered as
MR.. WRESTLING II. Along with Harley, Chief Wahoo McDaniel, and Flair, I put him on my personal Mt Rushmore.
Respect, love and more respect!
How is David Arquette not mentioned? 🤣🤣
David Arquette was a better champion than Vince Russo was. (Remember Russo won the WCW belt?)
Bruno still in great shape..
Great comments my friends and I think like most of us that that was relevant in our life times is what resonates. Thanks for your comments. As a radio personality I was fortunate to to cover many matches for NWA in Virginia and NC and clearly found out that the outcomes were always Pre-derermimed but the in-ring punishment was not. What a great sport. Last guy I ever want to meet in an alley? Harley Race
I'm pleasantly surprised at the answer Harley gave for, "is Ric Flair the greatest world champion of all time?".
Lou Thesz n Karl Gotch n Billy Robinson come to mind.
Where can I find the dvd release of this? If this under youshoot or what?
"And I consider this a SPORT"....that last sentence by Harley shows the respect Harley had for the business and to what extents he would go to protect it. That's why guys respected him so much and he was so revered as the NWA World Champ.
Compare this with guys in the business today. The guys and girls today are not serious about this sport. I heard one pampered indy girl named Jordynne Grace call it a "Performance Art". That's why wrestling is where it is today, in the absolute worst shape possible. Yet these marks in the business and Dave Meltzer pat themselves on the back thinking what they do works. I am sorry but it doesn't snowflake.
Wrestling desperately needs Harley today to teach these guys how to work, how to respect and dedicate themselves to this business and how to not insult it. Also, the world needs more alpha males like Harley. Nowadays a lot of men seem to be pussified beyond hope.
Rest easy Mr. Race. You did very well. I am proud to call myself a fan of the sport of professional wrestling because of the work of people like you, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Terry Funk, Bruno and others.
Hate to break it to you, but wrestling wasn’t a global phenomenon back then the way it is now. You can take every dime that the territories made throughout the 70’s and 80’s and put it all into one bank account and it wouldn’t even be a fraction of what WWE makes in half a year. The business is in a better place now than it ever has been.
@@jaybarbieri8619 my father who is not a massive wrestling fan still fondly remembers Bruno and Inoki coming here to wrestle.
So speak for yourself. Wrestling was huge back in the day. Just social media was non existent. Wrestling today is smaller than ever. Ask if anybody knows who Omega or the Bucks or Cassidy are and you will get blank stares.
2 all time greats
They would each hate to hear that Hulk Hogan seems to check off each of their boxes for what a great champion should be! (No, I do not believe that Hogan is close to the greatest champion in wrestling history.)
"Humble" harley race 😉 harley was the best but ric kept the old style alive for decades and he always gives the respect to those guys so in my eyes he kept the torch burning. I respect flair for that.
Harley had class.
Harley was straight class...
I really like Harley, seems like good people
Bruno was an afterthought everywhere except the northeast. Flair traveled the world defending the NWA title. I think that speaks for itself.
yeah right. BRUNO was huge in JAPAN, AUSTRALIA, sold out a 35.000 seat bullfighting arena.the last time i checked the world map, those countries were not in the northeast.
Bruno would crush ric flair.
@@benrking7922 In what, stiffness?
@@mikewilson7036 in a shoot BRUNO would have completely destroyed FLAIR.
@@MrMferg240 Flair was a D1 athlete, I wouldn't be so sure. Plus, wrestling ain't shooting. If it was, neither Flair nor Bruno would even be in the conversation.
2 great men. 2 tough son of a guns.
Hard for my Mid Atlantic roots to admit, but Hogan eventually surpasses Flair.... but up to that point Flair ranks ahead of all the champions of the 60-90's in terms of charisma and ability to sell. Globalized the "sport". Never thought of AWA and WWF as global so that would hold back Gagne and Bruno. Alot of worthy champions, but Flair, Dusty, and Graham were the true visionaries and entertainers.
Harley Race is the Goat.
R.I.P
Harley Race
2 great champs right here
He wasn't the most technical by any means, but Flair put over the business, the belt, his opponent, the Horsemen, and the lifestyle. He could sell WRESTLING, period.
I kind of hate to hear Bruno saying if you've seen Ric wrestle once you've seen all of his matches. Take away Bruno punching, kicking, body slamming and bear hugging....you've got nothing left.
Two of the greatest in the business
Lou Thesz is the greatest of all time.
..My Mt. Rushmore of Pro Wrestling in no particular order are Flair,Race,Gotch, & Hackenschmit..With Honorable mentions to Thez and Bockwinkel
Wouldn't it be funny if when both were asked who they thought the greatest champion was - both shouted in unison "The Ultimate Warrior!!" then smiled and further shouted "April Fools!!!" (?)
What year was this filmed?
bruno is the longest wwe champion 2889 days he is a true legand RIP
thats why the wwwf was soooo boring and predictable
By November 1993, WCW decided to once again base the promotion around Ric Flair. This was seen as more or less a necessity after prospective top babyface Sid Vicious was involved in an incident with Arn Anderson (which resulted in hospitalization of both men)[43] while on tour in England eight weeks before Starrcade and was fired. Flair then placed his career on the line against Big Van Vader for the WCW World Heavyweight Championship. Flair won the title at Starrcade and was once again made booker.[44] That did not stop WCW from suffering massive financial losses in 1993, however; a staggering $23 million.[41]
Woooooo!!! 👍😎👍
What do you want from a champion? I like the talkers from the 80s, and I think guys like Flair, Piper and Lawler are great entertainers. But some may like brilliant ring work and high risk moves the most. Others may like scientific wrestling technicians. Some just want to see the most impressive physical specimens or the craziest gimmicks. We can debate who was the best champion, but there is more than one reason people might think a champion was the best!😎
Good workers in wrestling
LOL Bruno's comment. If you saw ONE Bruno match you saw them all. His move set was punch and kick and that was about it.
It doesn't matter what you like, Bruno. Ric Flair promoted the business better than ANYONE else. His matches were not designed to make him look good. They were designed to make his opponents look great and to promote future events. Race and Sammartino were from a very different era. Flair held the NWA title for so long because no one else could do it. Flair could wrestle for 60 minutes every night. He could do this for months at a time. Most guys didn't want that responsibility. Flair embraced it and excelled at it. You can say what you want about Flair as a person, but no one can deny his talent and promotional abilities.
So well said
exactly! Flair was all about his character... the arrogant attitude, the stirring up shit and creating hype. he had the look and the charisma, the amazing ability to talk on the mic... something Bruno had zero of.
Used to love Bruno’s color commentary on matches
Harley is #1 for my money
I think the “real” reason why Bruno didn’t care for Ric was because of his “crazy, wild antics” outside of the ring & us wrestling fans know what those were.😁 Did Bruno respect Flair cause of his hard work in the business? Yes he did! Did Bruno respect him as a person? NO & that’s why Bruno has no problem of saying negative things about Flair! Let’s understand something, these old timers like Bruno, when you’re a champion, you are supposed to carry yourself as a champion, in & outside the ring & that’s including in public! Ric was coming up in wrestling in a different time period, the 70’s & we all know that era were crazy times so pretty much Ric just road with it. Again, that’s my take on Bruno…..But in my eyes, Flair is still the best & hardest working Champion of all time!
When was this filmed? I say Harley Race was the best there ever was!!!
Ric is the best because he was groomed by so many legends harley is one of them.
Bruno's ears, man !
Oh yeah. Cauliflower 👂
Wow, this is true wrestling royalty! They dont make em like these 2 gentlemen anymore, that's for damn sure.
Everyone says Flair wrestled the same match. Flair wrestled over 30 years, night after night, week after week, 6 days a week. No one saw Flairs every match. He wrestled differently in in younger days compared when he got older,. He had cage, tag matches etc. Any wrestler will have the same moves and holds in their skill set. You can't have that many moves, holds etc plus he called the matches on the fly. Bruno was kick, bear hug, stomp and punch.
Harley is a true gentleman wow
Ok, when you think about it….. what makes the greatest champion ever?
Who sold the most tickets; who sold the most merchandise, who drew the biggest houses and most consistently!!
It has to be the Hulkster plain and simple!
Hulk could work with practically anyone, could mix it up if he had the opposition to do so with, he had such a long run at the biggest point in history for wrestling, more people watched the weekly shows than what watch in an entire month today!
Why? Hulk Hogan!! It was a phenomenon, even billy Graham said it, it was like beatle mania, the world just couldn’t get enough of the WWF at the time.
He couldn’t work with anyone, he couldn’t go any amount of time. Stone cold out drew him anyway. I understand what you mean in terms of box office and pop culture definitely no one comes close to him (except stone cold) but his in ring work was awful