(070) Beginners Guide to Dimple Locks and Dimple Lock Picking
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- Recently I think that I have been making too many videos of me picking locks and not enough of me actually doing tutorials and stuff. Let's put that right with a two part beginners guide to Dimple Locks: part one will look at the mechanism of basic dimple locks and how to pick them and part 2 will look at dimple lock rakes and how to use them. Enjoy!
Remember: only pick locks that are yours and that are not in use!
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Like all locks, picking dimple locks takes practice, practice, and more practice. Very frustrating without the correct dimple picks. Excellent tutorial once again.
Thank you :-)
Bingo! I've watched this video many times and been trying for ages to conquer just my dimple training lock. But now I used a regular tension tool instead of a Z-bar and succeeded. Thank you LN again for your excellent videos! :)
Thanks friend :-)
I've seen LPL use a flag pick...ok there's the flag pick lol. Perfect timing.
:-)
Nice Video! I just got my first dimple lock and this is helping me get it figured out.
Just what I needed, great info.
Excellent, I'm just moving on to dimple locks now.
Cool! Happy picking
Nicely done, good clear explanations there.
Thanks Pete: I wish I could pick dimple locks as well as I can explain the theory of how to, hehe
Just discovered your channel. Great work and soothing voice
Thank you, are welcome :-)
Excellent stuff. Thanks.
Thanks :-)
I got one of these locks as part of a practice set. After a while staring at it I picked one side using a GOSO half diamond. The other side I will need to grind down the shaft of the pick to make it lower profile as to reach the rear pins the early ones get over set. When picked the lock jams at 90% but just using the pick to push all the pins up and it can be rotated fully around. So no probs. Looks like a set of dimple lock picks may be needed but as I have just brought a couple of multipick packs it may have to wait.
great video, thank you for making this. well explained.
Thank you :-)
Nice introduction. Thank you. I recently read a review that those screw type interchangeable picks actually untwist and release the pick when turning the pick inside the lock in one direction. Are they bad enough to stay away from?
Great video, I learnt lot. Dimple Locks are something I'm looking at tackling in the near future. This is a good primer - thanks ☺
Grin. I'm a great fan. Your videos are so clear and informative. All the best to you.
Yes that was most helpful, good information, good instruction, good demonstration, how I missed this vid or dismissed it very early I simply no not know. I have my name on a dimple lock passaround set so i shall have to watch this vid again.
Glad you liked it. It’s a bit old and I could do much better now.... I might redo it :-)
Any specific picks youd recommend for the clear acrylic dimple locks ? just got one in the mail. seems to be double sided. by the way the lock we chatted about is on its way across the pond to you as i type mate. have fun with it. have just upgraded my clear padlock as per your video. got the parts from sparrows. i could get addicted to spending money on that site, good prices too. was very easy to do too thanks to your instruction, now its a bit harder to pick but fun. just looking for a british dvla lock the lcc hardened lock they use on wheel clamps etc, numerous youtube videos about them . as always brilliant content from a realy great guy and talented picker. youve are my picking school haha.
Good video. Never even touched a dimple lock so should come in handy when I get one. thanks, good info
Thanks. After I finish this beginners guide mini-series, I'm reviewing a lot of dimple picks too. You might find that useful :-)
thanks, I look forward to it. Good job
great tutorial, thank you ,,
Thanks :-)
Im new to picking and the set I have came with a pick I think is for dimple locks. Its flat and wavy
Ahhh, yes. czcams.com/video/tfXayPgDE6A/video.html
Great learning video
Thank you :-)
I like to learn and I found a previous clip of yours that was a heck of alot of help
But this one clip really threw me out I was completely lost with the explanations that u gave here ... is t g ere any chance that u have done other clips on dimple locks ?
Or is it even possible u have re done this one differently or explained it a bit differently
Cause other that learning that no my practice lock wasn't broken Nd yes keys were meant to come out sideways as it's a dimple lock
That was about all I learnt ,,,,I bought the lock picking kit with a clear dimple lock exactly same as the one u have in the clip but I can not figure out how to get any single rake in there
Please if u could let me know or at the least answer or contact me I'd love some advice from u as u do seem to know what u are talking about ,.,.,.,unlike a few others I've seen post lockpicking vids u at the least seem capable of using the picks where these others appear like they are reading out of a book and just telling us on the clips without actually even picking any locks themselves
If u could possibly contact or reply ti me I'd greatly appreciate it bigtime
As I just had a hard time following or understanding u in this clip & I'd love any further advice I could get from you
Great video and info! :) Wish I could've found this when I first started picking dimple locks :) Where did you find the master lock dimple lock? (that sentence is weird..)
DarkWoodPicks it's a European exclusive and not too common. It's probably their best lock in terms of pick resistance... I've not picked it yet...
Lock Noob Ok, I've only picked mul-t-locks and a cheap Bell lock so was thinking this could be fun. Dimple locks are hard to find in the U.S. :P
I have faith in you! :)
I think I have the same as the second one on the left in the video. I bought it when I first started and had no clue what I was doing and tried picking it with a regular hook and it was a god-awful experience that only resulted in success through sheer stubbornness. Not only is it hard to get torque with a regular hook, but it also gets stuck in the keyway _incredibly_ easily.
Yeah, you really need the right tools for this, but a half diamond Pick can be used in a pinch :-)
Heyhey. I just managed to pick my dimple lock, albeit an acrylic trainer. But it's being giving me jip for days. Your video pointed the way. Now, practice, practice, and er..... Thanks LN, and good luck with the new name project if you go for it.
Yup, practice, practice and practice more :-)
Great vid, 👍👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👌
Thanks 🙏
Another great video and tutorial mate ;o))))
Thank you, waddac2! :-)
No problem mate, keep up the great work ;o))))
Lock Noob great video. Can i ask. What are different with dimple and kaba dimple. ??
Thank you...as a beginner I found this overview useful but when you got down to the picking...non of the things you describe verbally are shown... I want an extreme close up of terms like... counter rotation, clicking, binding, shear line.. these are still a mystery to me and I am still to see a lock picking demo that films what is going on inside the lock during picking... the wide shot of the transparent core is not good enough for my total lack of knowledge. I am a filmmaker not a lock picker. Can you help?
czcams.com/video/fMe2b6n2q-w/video.html this is a good video made by a friend of mine
I hope you're seeing this and can give me an answer... I nearly destroyed my lock because of the following:
At the end of the video on the other side of the lock, you can see a slit that's usually filled out with the key when you turn the lock regularly. Would you have turned it further with your tension wrench, the pins would had slid up tight into that slit and jam up the lock. How do I prevent that, assuming I aim to open up a door with picking this style of lock?
Well, the first thing to say is NEVER pick a lock you rely on, especially if you don’t intimately know how to do it or what’s inside it (and never if you don’t own it). Second is that you just push the pins all down at the same time with a tension tool and turn the lock :-)
great job mate 👏
Thank you! :-)
I just learned something new. 😎
Awesome :-)
Someone have link for a cheap training simple lock like the first one on the video ? Ty
I actually managed to pick a dimple lock with a standard hook but it took me 30 minutes at least. I also used a half diamond, shoved it in and twisted it to lift the pins.
Yes, a half diamond is probably bette than a hook :-)
Lock Noob I bought a 40 euro pick set and it had a bazillion kind of hooks but no flag shaped hook so it was all I had : (
Hi,
What is your approach when you pick one pin and another is falling down? No matter how hard my tension is or if i search for a different order of picking them i keep having one that falls down when picking another.
I pick with tension in opposite direction, tried different tension wrenches,.. hours and hours and hours.
It just wont work..
It seems so easy watching vids but i cant open one.
I'm doing pretty well at picking tumblers and i'd like to get a dimple lock open that isnt a practice lock. I guess just practice more...
I am stuck at the assa locks too, i have a V10 and twin, because i cant pick the fingerpins.
All I can say is keep practicing and stay awatpy from Assa until you build confidence and experience. Good luck and happy picking :-)
@@LockNoob Thanks! I'll do that, i tought i was doing something wrong. But its just hard to develop a good feel for dimples, for me anyway.
You're right about the assa's.. i opened so many tumbler locks i tought i was invincible :-) untill i got me some assa's, a bilock, medeco's, a zeiss ikon with spinning front plate that feels so different.. bad idea to try to pick those already!!
They are all still laughing with me.
I don't touch them anymore till i am more confident like you said.
But i'm happy to have them here.
Have a nice day!
i didnyt have dimle picks i was so fristrated., i have the same exact lock, im like i gotta be missing something ehre, can i get a good recommendation on a good set of picks, ther one i got are kinda cheap bending and getting chewed up?
was thinking about something like the noight school package ort a full beginner set from sparrows, now i know what picks ill need, thanks lock noob
A cheap set of GOSO picks or Honest Dong Shi picks are excellent as long as you have the time to file the shanks round and sand them
Nice, thank you for the tutorial/guide! Subscribed! :)
Thanks 😊
Can you pick these locks with normal hooks?
Are these transparent practice locks any good? The reviews of those on Amazon have very mixed reviews, mainly that they don't lock, or are far to easy to open. Is there any particular brand to look for?
They are more ‘demo’ locks than practice locks as they don’t stand up to picking for long due to the age old issue of metal on plastic
@@LockNoob Thanks for clarifying that, demo as opposed reliable practice locks. Have now seen those metal cutaway locks which help demo and probably more reliable mechanism. Bought my first pick set, Sparrow Tuxedo after seeing some of your vids (Bosnianbill also rates the Tuxedo). Had my first open by single picking, four pin bicycle lock; have to start somewhere 😁.
hence the phrase door locks give us the illusion of security
Indeed :-)
Hey Noob. Cool vid. I've already watched tons of them- on everything- but I'm going to Thailand and Japan for 6 months and know Asia uses a lot of these, or so I've been told. Just got my Goso- like yours. I've pretty much 'mastered' SFIC's as they are all the University has and I lived there for 3 years. SO= gonna give it a go. Also going to be hitting Medeco's next, they're kind of the next type of lock I want to be proficient in. I usually do 'in-situ' so I won't be using a vice or any of that stuff. Not gonna bother w/ the M4 as it's too new and the M3 and before should suffice. Hey, 3 questions? 1. Did you modify your set, i.e.- sand the paddles down. I'm not forking out 400 on Multi's which I know are the best and good to go out the box. 2. Do you know about the Medeco 'Decoder'. I don't mean the gauge to figure out what the pins are- I mean the tool that you stick into the keyway and it allows you to rotate the pins for the sidebar? I had heard that it only worked on 'Pre' M3 models, as they now have like this overhang to thwart that, but I'd suppose there's plenty of pre-M3's still in use. AND, if you do know about this- How best to make one? I was thinking of modifying a small travelers hook, you could sand it down and it's about the right dimensions, though you'd have to make it thinner. 3. What locks do they use in Europe, specifically- France? After my 'Asian Excursion' I plan on moving and living in Toulousee. I plan on living in the U there or a Mall or something like that, lol. I know you're a Brit and probably have been there- and if you are a picker, you are, you probably, regularly, look at lock types, haha. It's one of the things I've noticed about myself when I got into pen testing a few years back= you look to see whats locked and with what. I don't even think of it really it's just a little thing I notice now. Anywho, I congratulated you last time we spoke on your monkey paw. It's a great pick, I own 4 of them. The idea wasn't knew- as Southord had 1 tears ago(though it didn't work very well) but Sparrows executed it really well. (The Lunatic is still my fav for SFIC's) Anywho m8, cheers.
The only thing I hate about these dimple locks is that they cost significantly more to duplicate compared to standard keys. But they're harder to pick, and in Asia they're used a lot. The only place I've seen standard keys is in low security settings where the lock is more or less designed to keep gentlemen out, because you could just smash the glass or use crowbars, making a higher security lock pointless. Some of these dimple locks have multiple rows of dimples, or dimples on multiple sides to make it damn near impossible to pick.
Oddly enough stuff like home invasion is extremely rare here.
I am having a hard time finding a decent dimple lock pick kit. I really don't need a giant kit but at the same time I don't want just 1 or 2 picks. Its like everywhere is sold out of just doesn't carry picks for dimple locks. I know they are easy to make but I want to buy a kit first before making them.
Buy the honest song Shi set from Bangood and round off the shafts and polish them. Takes some time, but they are cheap and made well :-)
Ah yeah I forgot about those Dong Shi ones. I think Bill did a review on them recently. And while looking for them I saw you did one. But I just ordered them plus a few other gimmicky things like padlock shims, Extractor kit, and one of those credit card pick sets. I know they are going to be cheap junk but still I want to try them out and at a few quid each I'm not blowing a ton of money on them.
Hmm, i just single picked my dimple practicelock and it broke down. I got it open but now keys wont work on it. Any ideas what might have happened? The pins on the side that i opened are very loose but it wont let key in more than halfway
Ah, just needed some brute force inserting key back to the lock to get it work
Thank you! In my lockpicking set (Innocheer), there's a practice lock just like this one but it doesn't include a flag pick, so it's impossible to pick! Annoying!
Try a small half diamond?
A curved flag works better :)
You can get it with a half diamond, if you really want.
if you are skilled you can do it with any pick
Would you recommend the goso dimple picks
Hi, check out video (073) and (074). Basically, yes, but I prefer the Honest Dong Shi set
Thank you
Thanks Lock Noob, because this video, i realize goso amazing tools, even i dont like the quality of their material, but the design lock pick is very useful. before watch your video, i dont understand the powerful small half diamond to lock pick dimple lock. after watch your video, my knowledge increased. Now i dont need my dimple lock pick, i just use goso small half diamond pick.
Before watch your video, i regret buying goso lock pick, almost i want to throw garbage, but fortunately i have not throw yet. Know i love them, but still pissed off the quality material Goso. Are u have a recomended lock pick set with good design like GOSO lock pick but with good quality material?
I a,ways recommend Sparrows Lockpicks or the Southord C series :-)
Would they put dimple locks in cars
Usually they are retrofitted to commercial vehicles to increase security
How do you use a dimple lock with A,B and C locks?
I’m sorry, I’m not sure what you mean
I need some help anyone please... I’ve been on this for hours and can’t do it.... I’m totally new to lock picking, I can manage to set some pins but when I go to set the rest, the ones I have set reset themselves and I have to start again.... any tips?
Just keep the tension steady and try not to over set the pins, which can lead to the others dropping. It takes practice, but comes in time!
@@LockNoob thank you for you quick response! I’ve been taking it steadier and I have been successful on some cheap padlocks and some euro cylinders 😀 thanks for the tips love the channel by the way!
the dimple lock i was using got the pick stuck inside. the pick snapped lmao.
On no!
Is there such a thing as a good beginner dimple lock?
Yes, try an Avocet Pioneer
@@LockNoob I'll keep my eyes open for one on the wrong side of the Atlantic. Thanks
4:37 A fart from the pact??? :D
:-)
Just got this training dimple lock, I hate them!
I get it now, just harder without the dimple kit
They are fun for a while, but an Iseo R6 will teach you more :-)
I got one of these 'dimple locks' as part of a picking set, along with the standard acrylic padlock. The latter is a joke, way too soft and very easy to open. Not really a training device, as I struggle with 'real' locks like ABUS, CES (I am from Germany) etc. I am inching through my lock collection, with very little progress so far. Despite having read the 'bible' from the locksmith site, studying the physics and mechanics behind all methods. Hopeless.
This dimple lock is VERY frustrating for amateurs, especially with cheap tools at hand.
Even if seeing the pin position through these transparent locks I fail to individually set them properly; raking them has no merit either. I do not own 'flag' picks, just oodles of these standard ones in all sizes and shapes. Too thick shafts, too clumsy pick tips, no wiggle space..
Thanks for showing! You demonstrate that these cheap dimple demo locks CAN be opened, just not mine.
But that problem is not with the lock itself, but with my own fingers..or brain.. or both..
Your audio leaves a lot to be desired (even YT has trouble to CC it). Please crank up the microphone, use a less muffled one with better high pitch sensitivity.
Kinda the point of those dimple locks... if even Lockpicking lawyer can't pick it quickly, it's a good lock.
A year has passed, now I can open all but three of 40 regular locks (a BKS, a DOM). Also got special dimple lock tools. So far I can open the acrylic demo lock and a cheap China dimple. Helpful was a Multipick training cylinder set (regular and dimple), with cut-outs in a real cylinder lock. Patience and a lot of practice seems to pay off. A neat hobby to calm down, ZEN style
"Um"
Errrr
Thanks for watching this oldie :-)
But was it made by Bosnian bill ?
Pin thumbler not pin cylinder
Um ok
@Lauren Damaso Ruiz therr is no reason to say the amount of pins, also yeah its tumbler
At this point, they scare me.:)
Don’t be scared! :-)
@@LockNoob But I yam ascared.:):)
Not really, I shall simply avoid them until I am ready for them.
Watch your sound fidelity, m8
Sure. I’ll go back in time and do just that
Says nipple at 5:13
LOL is good but doesn't explain the basics like your vids
Instead of acting, you just hit! 😤😡