I spent almost 6 years as a member of the USS Georgia Blue crew, and was onboard during the filming of Sharks of Steel. Best bunch of guys I ever served with.
@@jamielacourse7578 breaks up the outline. Simple and effective camouflage. Just like older Navy ships with the zig zag patterns, made it harder to see the outline and direction of travel.
I'm a naval aviator, never been in a submarine other than the WW2 submarine on display in Honolulu, a tourist attraction. This four part video is fascinating for me. I learned a lot. Awesome.
You shouldve heard him on the 1MC during fire drills. Fun fact - Capt. Razz was the basis for Gene Hackman's character in Crimson Tide, based on this very video.
This is the best submarine documentary I have ever seen. I was qualified on fast attack boats (USS Cincinnati SSN693) and boomers (USS Daniel Webster SSBN626).
Well, he wasn't lying when he said his _entire_ adult life was about training to fight. I'd wager a fair bit of money that any HK Sub would have a _bloody hard time_ getting a fireing solution on that thing.
CAPT Raaz was the best. I worked with him when he was on the USS NIMITZ a few years after this series. You'd never know it by this video, but he was a very kind man.
USS Pennsylvania SSBN 735 Gold Crew, Oct 2002 - Oct 2007. Always great running into a Brother! Good times, wouldn't change it for anything. ETV2(SS) Glenn Scroggins
I was too. It had a huge night club on it and lots of hot babes dancing in cages wearing next to nothing except for go go boots. Had my own shower. I slept in if I wanted to. I drank a lot of beer. The captain smoked a lot of pot. I ate a lot of Steak and Eggs and Champagne for Breakfast, among other great food - all I had to do was request it. We had lots of nukes just rearing to go - accidentally fired several off one night off the coast of New York - man, it was one hell of a light show over Manhattan. Recall our sub ramming into an oil tanker at full speed in Alaska. That was some serious fun. One time we dived with two sailors still in the conning tower. They said it was one hell of a ride. You can shoot me now.......................LOL!!!!
Me too Alvin - 1961-1981. Of my 20 years, 13 was on boats: 1 year on USS Grampus SS-523 before Nuc. Pwr. School; 7 years on USS Theodore Roosevelt SSBN-600(B); and 5 years on USS Theodore Roosevelt SSBN-610(G). I'd do it again!!!!
If you are Mr Tammen son, weapons officer, of the Georgia when this was filmed tell him FTB2\SS Gress says the Janus Fund he turned me on too has made me some good money over the years.
"the crew call it 'Sherwood Forrest'. No, they don't. No one ever called it that on T-hulls, and as best I can tell, outside of 1960s training films, the only place it was ever common was on the SSBN 598 commissioning crew while the missile tubes were painted that horrible piss green. The Crew Call it "The Missile Compartment"
PERHAPS YOU SHOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK YOU LOOK LIKE, BEFORE SOUNDING OFF ABOUT PEOPLE WITH GREAT ACHIEVEMENT ALREADY BEHIND THEM. WHAT A BLOCKHEAD YOU SEEM TO BE.
I've got this DoC in a n inaccessible box somewhere I can't remember. But I remember the doc! Thirty years later, the USN leadership, people like Zumwalt, and especially Rickover, what the defence concerns of the Joint Chiefs have. Not even.Patton was afforded that degree of independence in HIS armed forces. That degree of ends justify the means independence makes the very existense nuclear ballistic missile submarines a matter of national survival. Eye -opening, especially from two viewings from different times.
Several remarks: By all means, the movie Crimson Tide with Gene Hackman was made using this captain history. He may be a great professional, but he is as egotistical and unpleasant as the character in the movie, which I must have seen a gazillion times. More importantly…….what a wake up call …….10 months into the Ukraine war !!!! This captain is right in the money, 30 years ago expressing his doubts about the uselessness of the submarine force. It is even more necessary than during the Cold War. Ironically, in the movie, the Russian arsenal is in the hand of a rogue politician……when reality is caught up by fiction. Amazing documentary
So, I am looking for an old Discovery Channel episode of what I believe is Sharks of Steel. Discovery channel filmed (and I've seen broadcast footage) on my Sub focusing on married life of the sailor and spouse. On my sub (the Wyoming) was footage of a Supply Officer (whose name I forget) an MS3 Lopez and a Master-chief Stefurak. If anyone knows anything useful about said episode, please respond below. Two decades later and nostalgia is kicking in.
2:00 The Georgia submarine... there are actually 14 of them in the US alone (Russia has it's owns). Each of these 14 Ohio class submarines carry 18 ballistic missiles (plus 6 smaller ones). Each of the ballistic missiles carry 8 independently targetable nuclear warheads aka nuclear bombs - basically each ballistic missile = 8 individual nuclear bombs. Each of these nuclear bombs can have about 30 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb... So let's do the math: 8 warheads (bombs) x 18 missiles x 14 submarines... = that's 2016 nuclear bombs.
@@_R-R not accurate. The 14 SSBN Ohio class submarines have the capability of carrying 24 UGM-133 Trident II missile but they now only carry up to 18 and they put ballast cans in the other 6.
Submarine life is hell on these guys eyes, they only ever see at short distances when underway and their eyes lose the ability to focus and resolve at the kind of distances you see in everyday life. One of the many sacrifices these brave men are willing to make.
It certainly was called "Sherwood Forest"! I was on them for a total of 12 years of my 20 - and the Missile Compt. was referred to as "Sherwood Forest"!
I've only heard the missile compartment called Sherwood Forest here and in Tom Clancy novels. And, yeah, I spent my fair share of time on SSBNs. Also, waxed decks. Gross. Glad we got away from that.
What happens if two Officers go on liberty on HI and go to sea forgetting the combos. I don't know never say that happen COMSUBPAC never saw it, never happened. It all came down to a MM2 Nuke with a really nice drill.
Don't fool ourselves, communism is not gone, now, right in 2019 is reviving all over. Just take a look to how Putin is doing and pointing to all over. Latin America is a good example.
I'm not denying that people of countries should have good and strong technology of defense, but only but if it was no wars and conflicts in this world, those bright minds that designed those things could make maschines that actually helps us understand the oceans more, people that made nukes could build better space shuttles or somthing that cures cancer and list just goes on and on the ammount of good things we could invent for humanity and science instead of inventing things that kill people.
' honor and salute to all submarines workers of americans navys... submarines workers musts be perfect seeing eyesights as 20/20 visions... submarines workers are not allowed to uses contact eyes and eyeglasses at all
What an awesome series marred only by the cockiness of that American captain. Amazing that someone so highly trained with so much experience in the command of a ballistic missile submarine; an actual doomsday weapon, could be so gung-ho. He's literally the real life "buckeroo" Captain Ramius speaks of in The Hunt for Red October.
magnetictheory He is that way because he is Capitan of the most advanced submarine ever. He knows what it can do, he knows the crew will unerringly doing their duty. In that "cockiness" is assured confidence.
It's the old "Winter Blues" uniform, nicknamed Johnny Cash's because of the all black. Sort of the opposite of the still existing summer whites. Wish the navy still wore them.
@@sparticusVI In the 60's and 70's we called them undress blues. When I was in Sub School it was summer so we wore Undress whites, Dress Whites were just Undress whites with a Neckerchief. (Tropical Whites are Short sleeved shirts instead of jumpers.)
Ugly thought; one time as a young I thought that's what I wanted to do; now as an old man,no,not me.i knew the reality and finality of this..did my 4 n got out; never looked back
15:29 & a few minutes prior to that... it appears someone was in the middle of getting their haircut 💇♂️ when they got the "Battle Stations" 🚨 alert! As you can see this is what being on a submarine would be like. 1 minute you're sitting watching a movie, getting a hair cut, having a chat... the next you are all hands on... and everyone drops what they were doing & goes right to their post... to await instructions of the next step. They all do their tasks & teach eachother while at their stations... all relying on everyone else to do their job... or of 1 persons messes up... or fails to work... they could ALL lose their lives. This isn't a funny thing to laugh at the guys hair... this is serious. Now in war time... it's even more important. Eventhough they treat all training as if it's the real thing. Cause even in peace time... they want to remain stealthy... cause the enemy is still trying to find out all they can about their adversaries... so if war breaks out... they can use what they learned about one anothers technology & equipment to their advantages... hopefully!
Good question! Sea water is an electrical conductor. And the ocean is very well grounded so it is hard to see how a potential difference large enough to produce the current required to fry the wires could be generated underwater. This suggests that an EMP would have little affect on a submerged submarine. Not only that, a submarine is a tube made of steel ... which, in effect, is a large Faraday cage which is also well grounded. This suggests that even a surfaced submarine would be partially protected. However, microelectronics is more sensitive and a transient voltage spike of any kind could reasonably be expected to corrupt the contents of volatile memory requiring a reboot and data restoration of digital computer systems ... which would take time. Externally mounted sensors might not survive. In general, the intensity of an electromagnetic field varies inversely with the square of the distance ... meaning that distance is your best friend. The most likely scenario might be a low yield nuclear warhead delivered on a torpedo or depth charge, detonated in proximity to a boomer in a desperate attempt to take it out before it can launch any more SLBMs (i.e. other than than the ones that have revealed the boomer's location). Of greater concern, the shock wave, propagating through water, would probably be sufficient crush the hull. An EMP weapon detonated at high altitude would probably have little or no effect. Any comments?
@@liefsillion2825 I hate the thought of EMP taking out the systems and being stuck in a nightmare of dark, cold sealed tube as oxygen runs out. Scary as heck
@@vincitveritas3872 Yeah! Not a pleasant way to die. Submarine rescue vessels are few and far between. They typically take days to get to the search area and then they have to find the downed submarine. They would probably send a robot down to evaluate the condition of the boat and of the emergency exit hatch seal before they send down a submersible to attempt a rescue. This takes time and it is only possible in relatively shallow water. Most of the ocean is very deep and the pressure increases rapidly as you go down. If the submarine propulsion and buoyancy control systems have been damaged there is not much hope if it coming up again. As it sinks, the hull with start to make freaky noises as the submarine goes below its crush depth. Even the strongest hulls made high strength steel, or even titanium, will fail below around 1000 m (the exact details are kept secret but the physics calculations are straight forward). So, the end game is that the hull will implode under the pressure in a massive boom that will be detected hundreds, if not thousands, of km away. This would happen suddenly but the waiting around for it to happen would be truly terrifying! Nuclear torpedoes and depth charges are diabolical weapons. They don't have to get that close to a submarine to take it out because they use a shock wave to rupture the hull. And, they don't need to be high yield because the shock waves they generate are easily propagated in water. There is not just a single shock wave. The detonation will generate a fireball which will vaporise thousands, if not even millions, of tons of seawater. This steam ball will expand and cool until the pressure falls below that of the surrounding seawater. Then, it will collapse again, superheating the steam and increasing the pressure up to a point where it stops, and then starts expanding again. This rapid cyclic process will repeat as the steam ball rises in the water column until it reaches the surface. So, there will be a series of shock waves of diminishing intensity over time. On the bright side, they can't kill you if they can't find you! Submarines depend on stealth to stay out of trouble and hiding under an ice sheet makes them very hard to find because they are concealed from satellites. A nuclear submarine can stay there for weeks, if not months. This is why boomers are the premier MAD capability. Bombers can be shot down and ICBM silos can be excavated, but boomers are so hard to find that you won't get all of them, and just one of them can cause unimaginable destruction. So, if you start a nuclear war then you will not survive. MAD is a mad idea but so far it has worked. The key is you have to convince the other guy that you are mad enough to use them! This is what Putin is doing at the moment. He is following the standard playbook. Paradoxically, nuclear sabre rattling actually reduces the likelihood of a nuclear exchange. The US runs attack submarine patrols in the vicinity of adversary boomer bases. When they head out to the open ocean they follow them, hiding in their baffles where they can't be heard, and follow them around. They can detect the sound of a boomer opening its missiles hatches and in wartime this means they attack before the can boomer can launch its weapons. Advanced torpedoes have a re-attack capability so if they miss the first time around then turn round they come back! This will delay the missile launch because the boomer will have to evade the attack or risk being destroyed. A boomer might have an escort though whose job it is to intercept an adversary attack submarine before it gets close enough to attack the boomer. Being a submariner is a dangerous profession in peace time. In wartime it becomes extremely dangerous and especially for a boomer because the prosecution would be intense. It is not a job that I would want to do!
@@vincitveritas3872 Many back up systems that are manual. As long as someone is alive and there is air in the emergency blow tanks, the sub should go to the surface.
A man defending it's counry is the most noble thing a man can do, but is more noble to create stuff that help people live a healthy life, fight global warming or change the trajectory of a commet on it's way to strike this planet. Unfortunately there's allways must be an asshole that atacks your country or wants to start shit so that those smart people are forced by theyr situations to build those war maschines.
Take for example that ass hole from North Korea which allways wants to start shit with other countries, tortures it's own people and makes them worship he's grand father like he is a god when that man was nothing but a piece of bolshevic shit. And because of this type of politics many country's had to suffer in the cold war under this ideologic opressions.
interreyting. Even the Captain cannot simply decide to launch the Nukes. Many people must work together. Checks and ballances all over, even if a emergeny action message from the president is successfully received.
Donald Smith Im pretty sure it's classified information but it does make you wonder how do they determine a training drill from the real deal Honestly I don't wanna know some things are better left unsaid
I am viewing this documentary in early March of 2019..... and just passed the 15:00 moment of film... Let us all pray the Idiot Orange Orangitan never has hold of the “Football” contains the launch codes...
Damn right! Time we stopped voting these moron's into power, be they Captain Farty bollocks or The Karate kid in Moscow. Problem is all a "leader" has to do is wave a sword about, and the majority of voters on both sides get all patriotic and nationalistic and stop thinking. Realistically the nukes out of the bag, it ain't never going back in.
I really enjoyed this series when it first aired sometime in the 1990s but looking back, I just cannot stand those two (former) submarine commanders. Why do they insist to look and sound like cowboys? And listening to that (then) active Captain talk about the wars his country was engaged in following the fall of the Soviet Union, what conclusion should we draw? We could have nuked Panama, Iraq, the former Soviet Union? Having a fleet of submarines, capable of nuking and entire country, nay, half of the globe, made only sense when 'the other side' had a similar sized capability for starting nuclear Armageddon. Think China is a nuclear threat? China refuses to decrease its number of nukes (300), despite polite requests by the USA and Russia. China points out that both countries still have in excess of 6,000 nukes themselves.
Agreed. Nuclear propulsion systems have to run coolant pumps, heat exchangers, and turbines ... which are noisy. The batteries and fuel cells found on diesel-electrics hardly make any noise all.
@@liefsillion2825 You didn't play close attention to the documentary and it would appear that you have no knowledge of sound isolation techniques. These submarines ARE, UNdetectable. They are very quiet on the inside and noiseless from the outside.
@@liefsillion2825 yes quiet until they run out of battery which will take only a few days and no since the creation of naturally circulating reactors diesel electrics are no longer the most quiet
@@shelleybeyar570 Really? I wouldn't believe everything you see on CZcams! A diesel electric submarine running on electric motors and moving at low speed can be very quiet, but a nuclear submarine ... nah! The cooling system of the nuclear reactor and the low frequency rumbling of the rotating steam turbines generate a lot of noise especially if it is moving at high speed which is required to transit long distances to and from their bases and their patrol zones or if they are obliged to evade an attack. They can hide under the thermal boundary layer in the ocean, if there is one, but variable depth sonar mounted on surface vessels and ASW helicopters can find then down there. Sure, sound isolation techniques dampen mechanical noise but they only contribute to lowering the overall acoustic signature of a submarine. You also have the problem of the propellor. If it spins too fast, the water at the tips will boil and form bubbles of steam. This is called cavitation. As the bubbles cool down they collapse and go pop! Lots of bubbles ... lots of noise! High rotational speed ... lots of bubbles. And sound travels a long way underwater. It travels lot further than it does in air. The only ways to prevent cavitation, for a given propellor, are to either slow down or dive deeper to where the pressure is greater. A submarine can be very difficult to detect if it is sitting stationary on the seabed. They can also be very difficult to detect if they are sitting stationary under an ice sheet. In these cases the irregular surface of the seabed or the ice creates lots of sonar echoes that allow the submarine to hide in the background noise. But a stationary submarine is not much of a threat. Sooner or later it will have to move in order to carry out its mission and when does, it will generate hydrodynamic noise caused by turbulence as water moves over the hull. The bigger the submarine the more noise. The faster it moves the more noise. There is not much you can do about basic physics! As yet, nobody had been able to develop the mathematical calculus required to accurately model turbulence using computers but when someone does they will receive a Nobel prize. The increasing level of background noise in the world's oceans caused by increased volumes of maritime shipping and increasing populations of whales is making it harder to detect submarines. However, modern integrated ASW tactics involve the use of rapidly deployable multi-static sensor networks in open waters and seabed sensors at critical undersea choke points which can make life very difficult for submarines. Typically, these passive sensors use triangulation to determine the general location and then call up long-range airborne assets to hunt them down. Submerged submarines have difficulty detecting aircraft and can't hear them coming. Typically, the first indication they have of their detection is "torpedo in the water"! And then they are obliged to go to flank speed in an attempt to deplete the remaining energy in the torpedo before it can reach the submarine whilst simultaneously rapidly changing depth and deploying decoys and noise makers to distract them. So, there is a bit more to it that simply placing rotating machinery on platforms that that are attached to the hull using springs and rubber blocks. Anything as large as a submarine is going to make a lot of noise when it moves through the water especially at high speed. For some more information about the analysis of acoustic signatures have a read at www.naval-technology.com/analysis/understanding-acoustic-signatures/ Or have a look at czcams.com/video/WRDFQQKwaSc/video.html to see how submarine prosecution is done these days. This video is a promo to sell aircraft, so it makes it look easy, and as such it is propaganda. It is not that easy in real life, of course, but it gives you the general idea.
Business as usual, making and spending money, submarines included. There is no end to human foolishness, love playing with matches and not burning their fingers, it happens now and then, then the curtains burn, then the furnitures and finally the house itself, business as usual, kills boredom apparently till death put an end to this madness.
After all that talk these subs are absolutely absoleet Waste of time money and life we are hunted by our own feer and that's what is going to distroy man kind
circa 47:20 "hope our government knows what they are doing" then I think of Bush and get scared, then the Clintons and I get more scared, but when Trump comes along I just start to laugh at how stupid and dangerous the American political system is
Especially now with xiden in office and his corrupt regime. It just gets worse and worse as time goes on. More and more corrupt, out of control, and out of touch with everyday Americans.
Does't matter how good you are, Cockiness will be your undoing. Personally, I wouldn't Launch a Nuclear Attack if given the Order. I would probably surface with a white Flag . . . .
@@kingpiccolo1nzl the entire art of deterrence is making the other side think you'll response in kind your useless if they find out you won't do it deep down meaning you've essentially doomed everything you love to a irradiated death because you flinched first
I spent almost 6 years as a member of the USS Georgia Blue crew, and was onboard during the filming of Sharks of Steel. Best bunch of guys I ever served with.
What year was the program filmed?
5 years on SSBN 738 here. Good program.
Could you explain why the masts are spotted? Cheers from Oshawa Canada.
@@jamielacourse7578 breaks up the outline. Simple and effective camouflage. Just like older Navy ships with the zig zag patterns, made it harder to see the outline and direction of travel.
@@krmgradiojoe can't say for sure but I would guess late '90s.
I'm a naval aviator, never been in a submarine other than the WW2 submarine on display in Honolulu, a tourist attraction. This four part video is fascinating for me. I learned a lot. Awesome.
I visited the USS Codfish last month, very impressed.
Old but good video
That Captains laugh scared the hell out of me.
You shouldve heard him on the 1MC during fire drills. Fun fact - Capt. Razz was the basis for Gene Hackman's character in Crimson Tide, based on this very video.
0:48
Translation: Deterrence is a M(utually) A(ssured) D(estruction) system that works.
Thanks
Wow been 20 plus years since watched this on tv when discovery still had a channel
Only warriors that have seen war and its horrors know the price of peace and pray for it above all things.
I still have these on vhs.
This is actually episode 1, not 4. How awesome to find it here! I was CRAZY for this program when I was in High School!
same same when i was in elementary
Same when I was in Nursery School.
The same after I got of the navy
I lived it. 12:10, 36:30. Calling the missile, denote, prepare, away. what a job in your 20's.
On 13:24 Capt Raaz doesn't insert his key, he turns a switch. So this was a drill.
I like the captains attitude.
Thank you thank you thank you for posting this doc! Saw this as a kid :D
This is the best submarine documentary I have ever seen. I was qualified on fast attack boats (USS Cincinnati SSN693) and boomers (USS Daniel Webster SSBN626).
Submarines are fascinating!
Capt. Raaz is badass.
Capt Raaz was cool AF.😂🤣
I love how sure of himself that captain is
Well, he wasn't lying when he said his _entire_ adult life was about training to fight. I'd wager a fair bit of money that any HK Sub would have a _bloody hard time_ getting a fireing solution on that thing.
tasman_devil
Yeah true
Just interesting that's all
There's a VERY specific kind of person you give that responsibility to. He seems like the right guy.
CAPT Raaz was the best. I worked with him when he was on the USS NIMITZ a few years after this series. You'd never know it by this video, but he was a very kind man.
A lot has changed since this vidoe but it all proves that the guy who insisted we needed to maintaine this fleet was soooooooo right.
Its a trip if something so clandestine could all stand a chance of surfacing at the same location.
It’s not worth thinking about what utter madness just these machines can do God Help All Of US should some one decide to press the button!
no we don't want the Tridents to do there job ... That's when you know that diplomacy went down the crapper
USS Henry M. Jackson SSBN-730 Blue Crew, 1990-1994, memories...
USS Pennsylvania SSBN 735 Gold Crew, Oct 2002 - Oct 2007. Always great running into a Brother! Good times, wouldn't change it for anything.
ETV2(SS) Glenn Scroggins
USS M.G. Vallejo SSBN658B 1979 - 1981, USS Henry Clay SSBN625B 1984-1986
There are more airplane wrecks in the ocean then submarines in the sky.
*than
No, it’s true right now.
It's called gravity
What did you smoke? :)
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i was on one of these 1966-1969
Respectable work!
I was on several of them from 76-89. Adm Rickover was one of a kind.
I was too. It had a huge night club on it and lots of hot babes dancing in cages wearing next to nothing except for go go boots. Had my own shower. I slept in if I wanted to. I drank a lot of beer. The captain smoked a lot of pot. I ate a lot of Steak and Eggs and Champagne for Breakfast, among other great food - all I had to do was request it. We had lots of nukes just rearing to go - accidentally fired several off one night off the coast of New York - man, it was one hell of a light show over Manhattan. Recall our sub ramming into an oil tanker at full speed in Alaska. That was some serious fun. One time we dived with two sailors still in the conning tower. They said it was one hell of a ride. You can shoot me now.......................LOL!!!!
Old ass
Me too Alvin - 1961-1981. Of my 20 years, 13 was on boats: 1 year on USS Grampus SS-523 before Nuc. Pwr. School; 7 years on USS Theodore Roosevelt SSBN-600(B); and 5 years on USS Theodore Roosevelt SSBN-610(G). I'd do it again!!!!
Russia tracks it by listening to marathon training man😂
That moment when you see your own father in a you tube video that popped into your recommended feed...
If you are Mr Tammen son, weapons officer, of the Georgia when this was filmed tell him FTB2\SS Gress says the Janus Fund he turned me on too has made me some good money over the years.
"the crew call it 'Sherwood Forrest'.
No, they don't. No one ever called it that on T-hulls, and as best I can tell, outside of 1960s training films, the only place it was ever common was on the SSBN 598 commissioning crew while the missile tubes were painted that horrible piss green.
The Crew Call it "The Missile Compartment"
Admiral Kaufman looks a lot like Gene Hackman.
I thought John Thaw narrated this - amazing that some of the subs are still in service (2022).
The typhoon captain 43:02 looks like a milkman
PERHAPS YOU SHOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK YOU LOOK LIKE, BEFORE SOUNDING OFF ABOUT PEOPLE WITH GREAT ACHIEVEMENT ALREADY BEHIND THEM. WHAT A BLOCKHEAD YOU SEEM TO BE.
Subs are very stealthy. What they were designed for.
Scary
Only if you submerge 1 time more than you surface.......
The Cold War has a reboot.
I sleep very well knowiing that they are out there!
Richard Boll My "neighbor" is an army base and I sleep well.
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I've got this DoC in a n inaccessible box somewhere I can't remember. But I remember the doc! Thirty years later, the USN leadership, people like Zumwalt, and especially Rickover, what the defence concerns of the Joint Chiefs have. Not even.Patton was afforded that degree of independence in HIS armed forces. That degree of ends justify the means independence makes the very existense nuclear ballistic missile submarines a matter of national survival. Eye -opening, especially from two viewings from different times.
Several remarks:
By all means, the movie Crimson Tide with Gene Hackman was made using this captain history.
He may be a great professional, but he is as egotistical and unpleasant as the character in the movie, which I must have seen a gazillion times.
More importantly…….what a wake up call …….10 months into the Ukraine war !!!! This captain is right in the money, 30 years ago expressing his doubts about the uselessness of the submarine force.
It is even more necessary than during the Cold War.
Ironically, in the movie, the Russian arsenal is in the hand of a rogue politician……when reality is caught up by fiction.
Amazing documentary
If I recall,The Georgia was converted to be a SSGN.
Yep. Not a newer series, but a very good one at that.
So video #3 was listed as private and I’m unable to watch? Can you fix this?
So, I am looking for an old Discovery Channel episode of what I believe is Sharks of Steel. Discovery channel filmed (and I've seen broadcast footage) on my Sub focusing on married life of the sailor and spouse. On my sub (the Wyoming) was footage of a Supply Officer (whose name I forget) an MS3 Lopez and a Master-chief Stefurak. If anyone knows anything useful about said episode, please respond below. Two decades later and nostalgia is kicking in.
Was that supply officer a young jg or lt named dan Matthews?
2:00 The Georgia submarine... there are actually 14 of them in the US alone (Russia has it's owns). Each of these 14 Ohio class submarines carry 18 ballistic missiles (plus 6 smaller ones). Each of the ballistic missiles carry 8 independently targetable nuclear warheads aka nuclear bombs - basically each ballistic missile = 8 individual nuclear bombs. Each of these nuclear bombs can have about 30 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb... So let's do the math: 8 warheads (bombs) x 18 missiles x 14 submarines... = that's 2016 nuclear bombs.
24 Trident D5s. All same size.
@@_R-R not accurate. The 14 SSBN Ohio class submarines have the capability of carrying 24 UGM-133 Trident II missile but they now only carry up to 18 and they put ballast cans in the other 6.
where is 3 of 4 please?
34:23 Shrimp make love? Lol
M.AD. talk about being pissed off.
Why is video 3 labeled “private “?
Thank you all !
I hope the huge number of submariners wearing glasses in this doco have a spare pair in their locker!
Husband is one of these guys, and yes many spare glasses.
Submarine life is hell on these guys eyes, they only ever see at short distances when underway and their eyes lose the ability to focus and resolve at the kind of distances you see in everyday life.
One of the many sacrifices these brave men are willing to make.
British, American, French, and Russian submariners all have a great deal in common. Because no one else understands what the other does
Did 15 years on these boats
it was never called "Sherwood forest"... Missile Compartment or Mouse house...
It certainly was called "Sherwood Forest"! I was on them for a total of 12 years of my 20 - and the Missile Compt. was referred to as "Sherwood Forest"!
9:09 is that boomer skipper planting stuff? I can feel it coming in the air tonight? For real?
I've only heard the missile compartment called Sherwood Forest here and in Tom Clancy novels. And, yeah, I spent my fair share of time on SSBNs. Also, waxed decks. Gross. Glad we got away from that.
What happens if two Officers go on liberty on HI and go to sea forgetting the combos. I don't know never say that happen COMSUBPAC never saw it, never happened. It all came down to a MM2 Nuke with a really nice drill.
Rob Reeve
Then i guess nobody is getting nuked that day
Don't fool ourselves, communism is not gone, now, right in 2019 is reviving all over. Just take a look to how Putin is doing and pointing to all over. Latin America is a good example.
And you see a ton of far left dems trying to turn OUR country into one as well!
For that matter, just take a look at the left side of the aisle in Congress.
@@danielrutschman4618 Not to mention Europe! Everybody has access to education and health care, even the poor. Unacceptable.
@@RobertoFrobs Correct. It is completely unacceptable, and something should be done to fix that!
Part 3 is private Sadge
I'm not denying that people of countries should have good and strong technology of defense, but only but if it was no wars and conflicts in this world, those bright minds that designed those things could make maschines that actually helps us understand the oceans more, people that made nukes could build better space shuttles or somthing that cures cancer and list just goes on and on the ammount of good things we could invent for humanity and science instead of inventing things that kill people.
'The quietest submarine in the world'? Perhaps the Captain should have said the quietest nuclear sub, or the quietest US sub.
And what would be the quietest submarine in the world my likely Swedish loving friend?
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honor and salute to all submarines workers of americans navys...
submarines workers musts be perfect seeing eyesights as 20/20 visions...
submarines workers are not allowed to uses contact eyes and eyeglasses at all
I saw at least four guys wearing glasses, including the captain.
What an awesome series marred only by the cockiness of that American captain. Amazing that someone so highly trained with so much experience in the command of a ballistic missile submarine; an actual doomsday weapon, could be so gung-ho. He's literally the real life "buckeroo" Captain Ramius speaks of in The Hunt for Red October.
magnetictheory He is that way because he is Capitan of the most advanced submarine ever. He knows what it can do, he knows the crew will unerringly doing their duty. In that "cockiness" is assured confidence.
:50 what it the actual fuck
why is the volume so low?
So the Russians dont hear it.
@@ZEZERBING lol, good one. thanks
They should have called that Russian sub, “the shocker”
what is the significance of the black uniform shirt worn in sub school? I'm clearly not a sub expert but I haven't seen one before.
I was wondering the same thing: I've never seen the black uniform before or after this doco.
It's the old "Winter Blues" uniform, nicknamed Johnny Cash's because of the all black. Sort of the opposite of the still existing summer whites. Wish the navy still wore them.
@@sparticusVI In the 60's and 70's we called them undress blues. When I was in Sub School it was summer so we wore Undress whites, Dress Whites were just Undress whites with a Neckerchief. (Tropical Whites are Short sleeved shirts instead of jumpers.)
Ugly thought; one time as a young I thought that's what I wanted to do; now as an old man,no,not me.i knew the reality and finality of this..did my 4 n got out; never looked back
15:29 & a few minutes prior to that... it appears someone was in the middle of getting their haircut 💇♂️ when they got the "Battle Stations" 🚨 alert! As you can see this is what being on a submarine would be like. 1 minute you're sitting watching a movie, getting a hair cut, having a chat... the next you are all hands on... and everyone drops what they were doing & goes right to their post... to await instructions of the next step. They all do their tasks & teach eachother while at their stations... all relying on everyone else to do their job... or of 1 persons messes up... or fails to work... they could ALL lose their lives. This isn't a funny thing to laugh at the guys hair... this is serious. Now in war time... it's even more important. Eventhough they treat all training as if it's the real thing. Cause even in peace time... they want to remain stealthy... cause the enemy is still trying to find out all they can about their adversaries... so if war breaks out... they can use what they learned about one anothers technology & equipment to their advantages... hopefully!
Very very repetitive if you watch all 4.
Are they EMP proof?
Good question! Sea water is an electrical conductor. And the ocean is very well grounded so it is hard to see how a potential difference large enough to produce the current required to fry the wires could be generated underwater. This suggests that an EMP would have little affect on a submerged submarine. Not only that, a submarine is a tube made of steel ... which, in effect, is a large Faraday cage which is also well grounded. This suggests that even a surfaced submarine would be partially protected. However, microelectronics is more sensitive and a transient voltage spike of any kind could reasonably be expected to corrupt the contents of volatile memory requiring a reboot and data restoration of digital computer systems ... which would take time. Externally mounted sensors might not survive. In general, the intensity of an electromagnetic field varies inversely with the square of the distance ... meaning that distance is your best friend. The most likely scenario might be a low yield nuclear warhead delivered on a torpedo or depth charge, detonated in proximity to a boomer in a desperate attempt to take it out before it can launch any more SLBMs (i.e. other than than the ones that have revealed the boomer's location). Of greater concern, the shock wave, propagating through water, would probably be sufficient crush the hull. An EMP weapon detonated at high altitude would probably have little or no effect. Any comments?
@@liefsillion2825 I hate the thought of EMP taking out the systems and being stuck in a nightmare of dark, cold sealed tube as oxygen runs out. Scary as heck
@@vincitveritas3872 Yeah! Not a pleasant way to die.
Submarine rescue vessels are few and far between. They typically take days to get to the search area and then they have to find the downed submarine. They would probably send a robot down to evaluate the condition of the boat and of the emergency exit hatch seal before they send down a submersible to attempt a rescue. This takes time and it is only possible in relatively shallow water.
Most of the ocean is very deep and the pressure increases rapidly as you go down. If the submarine propulsion and buoyancy control systems have been damaged there is not much hope if it coming up again. As it sinks, the hull with start to make freaky noises as the submarine goes below its crush depth. Even the strongest hulls made high strength steel, or even titanium, will fail below around 1000 m (the exact details are kept secret but the physics calculations are straight forward). So, the end game is that the hull will implode under the pressure in a massive boom that will be detected hundreds, if not thousands, of km away. This would happen suddenly but the waiting around for it to happen would be truly terrifying!
Nuclear torpedoes and depth charges are diabolical weapons. They don't have to get that close to a submarine to take it out because they use a shock wave to rupture the hull. And, they don't need to be high yield because the shock waves they generate are easily propagated in water. There is not just a single shock wave. The detonation will generate a fireball which will vaporise thousands, if not even millions, of tons of seawater. This steam ball will expand and cool until the pressure falls below that of the surrounding seawater. Then, it will collapse again, superheating the steam and increasing the pressure up to a point where it stops, and then starts expanding again. This rapid cyclic process will repeat as the steam ball rises in the water column until it reaches the surface. So, there will be a series of shock waves of diminishing intensity over time.
On the bright side, they can't kill you if they can't find you! Submarines depend on stealth to stay out of trouble and hiding under an ice sheet makes them very hard to find because they are concealed from satellites. A nuclear submarine can stay there for weeks, if not months. This is why boomers are the premier MAD capability. Bombers can be shot down and ICBM silos can be excavated, but boomers are so hard to find that you won't get all of them, and just one of them can cause unimaginable destruction. So, if you start a nuclear war then you will not survive.
MAD is a mad idea but so far it has worked. The key is you have to convince the other guy that you are mad enough to use them! This is what Putin is doing at the moment. He is following the standard playbook. Paradoxically, nuclear sabre rattling actually reduces the likelihood of a nuclear exchange.
The US runs attack submarine patrols in the vicinity of adversary boomer bases. When they head out to the open ocean they follow them, hiding in their baffles where they can't be heard, and follow them around. They can detect the sound of a boomer opening its missiles hatches and in wartime this means they attack before the can boomer can launch its weapons. Advanced torpedoes have a re-attack capability so if they miss the first time around then turn round they come back! This will delay the missile launch because the boomer will have to evade the attack or risk being destroyed. A boomer might have an escort though whose job it is to intercept an adversary attack submarine before it gets close enough to attack the boomer.
Being a submariner is a dangerous profession in peace time. In wartime it becomes extremely dangerous and especially for a boomer because the prosecution would be intense.
It is not a job that I would want to do!
@@vincitveritas3872 Many back up systems that are manual. As long as someone is alive and there is air in the emergency blow tanks, the sub should go to the surface.
How do they know it’s real and if it’s training
Did your parents have any kids that survived the birthing process?
When the Captain says "Spin up all missiles for MSRT...that means Middle System's Readany Test...this is the the Captain, this is an excercise.
Cole Young
Ah
Interesting
And I guess he says this is no drill
When they do it for real
Or would that be inappropriate
@@coleyoung1278 WSRT weapons system readiness test
When the EAM is picked up by radio, it will indicate exercise or not.
A man defending it's counry is the most noble thing a man can do, but is more noble to create stuff that help people live a healthy life, fight global warming or change the trajectory of a commet on it's way to strike this planet. Unfortunately there's allways must be an asshole that atacks your country or wants to start shit so that those smart people are forced by theyr situations to build those war maschines.
Take for example that ass hole from North Korea which allways wants to start shit with other countries, tortures it's own people and makes them worship he's grand father like he is a god when that man was nothing but a piece of bolshevic shit. And because of this type of politics many country's had to suffer in the cold war under this ideologic opressions.
Some of these sub commanders are so up themselves it becomes almost comical.
Don’t fly them if Joey boy orders it. He would have no clue why he ordered it
So, you're advocating treason?
The big question is who all these organised destruction systems are serving....surtenly not human!
interreyting. Even the Captain cannot simply decide to launch the Nukes. Many people must work together. Checks and ballances all over, even if a emergeny action message from the president is successfully received.
Donald Smith
Im pretty sure it's classified information but it does make you wonder how do they determine a training drill from the real deal
Honestly I don't wanna know some things are better left unsaid
There is a way. I served on one in the mid 1990's
Presumably, that information would be embedded in the EAM.
if the birds fly you know it was not a drill
I am viewing this documentary in early March of 2019..... and just passed the 15:00 moment of film...
Let us all pray the Idiot Orange Orangitan never has hold of the “Football” contains the launch codes...
Damn right! Time we stopped voting these moron's into power, be they Captain Farty bollocks or The Karate kid in Moscow. Problem is all a "leader" has to do is wave a sword about, and the majority of voters on both sides get all patriotic and nationalistic and stop thinking.
Realistically the nukes out of the bag, it ain't never going back in.
You would had a war by now if Hillary won. What with her "no fly zone" bullshit in Syria.
He has the codes the second he is sworn in.
FEEL FREE TO *LEAVE MY AMERICA YOU COMMIE BASTARD. WE DON'T WANT YOU OR YOUR KIND HERE IN THE US of A....*
The humanity will be finished with thid 💩💩💩💩💩💩
I really enjoyed this series when it first aired sometime in the 1990s but looking back, I just cannot stand those two (former) submarine commanders. Why do they insist to look and sound like cowboys?
And listening to that (then) active Captain talk about the wars his country was engaged in following the fall of the Soviet Union, what conclusion should we draw?
We could have nuked Panama, Iraq, the former Soviet Union?
Having a fleet of submarines, capable of nuking and entire country, nay, half of the globe, made only sense when 'the other side' had a similar sized capability for starting nuclear Armageddon.
Think China is a nuclear threat? China refuses to decrease its number of nukes (300), despite polite requests by the USA and Russia. China points out that both countries still have in excess of 6,000 nukes themselves.
Total waste of time to watch this. No President or no government is willing to end the world. What a waste of money, and man power.
there is a lunatic in the usa now that is deranged enough to do it.
Wow I wonder why they won't do that
Its almost like this "waste of money" is doing exactly what it was built for.
This is the quietest sub in the world
Load of BS
Agreed. Nuclear propulsion systems have to run coolant pumps, heat exchangers, and turbines ... which are noisy. The batteries and fuel cells found on diesel-electrics hardly make any noise all.
@@liefsillion2825 You didn't play close attention to the documentary and it would appear that you have no knowledge of sound isolation techniques. These submarines ARE, UNdetectable. They are very quiet on the inside and noiseless from the outside.
@@liefsillion2825 yes quiet until they run out of battery which will take only a few days and no since the creation of naturally circulating reactors diesel electrics are no longer the most quiet
@@shelleybeyar570 Really? I wouldn't believe everything you see on CZcams!
A diesel electric submarine running on electric motors and moving at low speed can be very quiet, but a nuclear submarine ... nah! The cooling system of the nuclear reactor and the low frequency rumbling of the rotating steam turbines generate a lot of noise especially if it is moving at high speed which is required to transit long distances to and from their bases and their patrol zones or if they are obliged to evade an attack. They can hide under the thermal boundary layer in the ocean, if there is one, but variable depth sonar mounted on surface vessels and ASW helicopters can find then down there. Sure, sound isolation techniques dampen mechanical noise but they only contribute to lowering the overall acoustic signature of a submarine.
You also have the problem of the propellor. If it spins too fast, the water at the tips will boil and form bubbles of steam. This is called cavitation. As the bubbles cool down they collapse and go pop! Lots of bubbles ... lots of noise! High rotational speed ... lots of bubbles. And sound travels a long way underwater. It travels lot further than it does in air. The only ways to prevent cavitation, for a given propellor, are to either slow down or dive deeper to where the pressure is greater.
A submarine can be very difficult to detect if it is sitting stationary on the seabed. They can also be very difficult to detect if they are sitting stationary under an ice sheet. In these cases the irregular surface of the seabed or the ice creates lots of sonar echoes that allow the submarine to hide in the background noise. But a stationary submarine is not much of a threat. Sooner or later it will have to move in order to carry out its mission and when does, it will generate hydrodynamic noise caused by turbulence as water moves over the hull. The bigger the submarine the more noise. The faster it moves the more noise. There is not much you can do about basic physics! As yet, nobody had been able to develop the mathematical calculus required to accurately model turbulence using computers but when someone does they will receive a Nobel prize.
The increasing level of background noise in the world's oceans caused by increased volumes of maritime shipping and increasing populations of whales is making it harder to detect submarines. However, modern integrated ASW tactics involve the use of rapidly deployable multi-static sensor networks in open waters and seabed sensors at critical undersea choke points which can make life very difficult for submarines. Typically, these passive sensors use triangulation to determine the general location and then call up long-range airborne assets to hunt them down. Submerged submarines have difficulty detecting aircraft and can't hear them coming. Typically, the first indication they have of their detection is "torpedo in the water"! And then they are obliged to go to flank speed in an attempt to deplete the remaining energy in the torpedo before it can reach the submarine whilst simultaneously rapidly changing depth and deploying decoys and noise makers to distract them.
So, there is a bit more to it that simply placing rotating machinery on platforms that that are attached to the hull using springs and rubber blocks. Anything as large as a submarine is going to make a lot of noise when it moves through the water especially at high speed.
For some more information about the analysis of acoustic signatures have a read at
www.naval-technology.com/analysis/understanding-acoustic-signatures/
Or have a look at
czcams.com/video/WRDFQQKwaSc/video.html
to see how submarine prosecution is done these days. This video is a promo to sell aircraft, so it makes it look easy, and as such it is propaganda. It is not that easy in real life, of course, but it gives you the general idea.
Business as usual, making and spending money, submarines included. There is no end to human foolishness, love playing with matches and not burning their fingers, it happens now and then, then the curtains burn, then the furnitures and finally the house itself, business as usual, kills boredom apparently till death put an end to this madness.
After all that talk these subs are absolutely absoleet
Waste of time money and life we are hunted by our own feer and that's what is going to distroy man kind
Nice job of spelling. Did you ever graduate Elementary school ??
circa 47:20 "hope our government knows what they are doing" then I think of Bush and get scared, then the Clintons and I get more scared, but when Trump comes along I just start to laugh at how stupid and dangerous the American political system is
Especially now with xiden in office and his corrupt regime. It just gets worse and worse as time goes on. More and more corrupt, out of control, and out of touch with everyday Americans.
Does't matter how good you are, Cockiness will be your undoing. Personally, I wouldn't Launch a Nuclear Attack if given the Order. I would probably surface with a white Flag . . . .
Michael Eamon Osborne And you would never see or be seen again .
@@kevinjasper6620 - Oh for the love of Humanity!! Really?! I'll take that chance. Ever think about your Family? You'd surface to NOTHING!
Michael Eamon Osborne ok just a friendly warning and with that your on your own.
@@kingpiccolo1nzl the entire art of deterrence is making the other side think you'll response in kind your useless if they find out you won't do it deep down meaning you've essentially doomed everything you love to a irradiated death because you flinched first