Build Your Own LiFePO4 Power Station! - 640wh / 50ah Ampere Time (AKA LiTime) Battery Build!

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  • čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
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Komentáře • 187

  • @Mike_219
    @Mike_219 Před 2 lety +8

    Love to see this content. Your original build is what got me to build my 100Ah box and start working with powerpoles!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety +3

      Powerpoles can save the world! Haha
      Glad you enjoyed the build. More small DIY Projects coming soon!

  • @xntricity6446
    @xntricity6446 Před rokem +3

    Thanks for this excellent instruction. As powerstations are almost 30% or 40% more expensive in Europe than in the USA i have decided to build also. The prices are too off the wall to justify an off the shelf solution.
    Another advantage to building your own you have flexibility to expand the setup. I plan to start with smaller battery configuration but add to it over time as they are the most expensive part of the build.

  • @debohannan4315
    @debohannan4315 Před rokem

    Looks good hope you get lots of use out of it. I have built a bunch of 18650 batteries for ham radio use using the 4s10p design and have gotten very good use from them. I also built my first power box from 10ah Headway cells a 4s5p then added all the extras

  • @bobt471
    @bobt471 Před rokem

    Nice video, detailed and to the point!

  • @mrainaandroid8208
    @mrainaandroid8208 Před měsícem

    Waoh. Just waoh. This is amazing. Thanks for sharing bro.

  • @danimarco
    @danimarco Před rokem

    Great job and video, well detailed and to the point I'm inspired from your project...let's see from unfolds from here 😃 Thank you!

  • @bobsaget0429
    @bobsaget0429 Před 5 měsíci

    great video, found this researching to do the same. planning on a 2 100ah lifepo build with a 2000w inverter. using a toolbox with wheels and a handle. going to make a van build and that way i can roll it in the house when im not on the road to keep it safe.

  • @allkindsofoutdooractivities

    Very nice informative build!

  • @kevinkd9txitransmitindiana133

    Very nice looking job I can tell you spent some time to decide where to put everything and how to run the wires.

  • @themortgageminute6382
    @themortgageminute6382 Před 2 lety

    Great video man! DIY is totally the way to go!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety +2

      It's the best way to learn and if most of your loads are DC, it's the most efficient option too.

  • @sksupply
    @sksupply Před 2 lety +8

    I agree. Building your own power station is just fun. I may never build another or use lithium batteries, but it was worth it.

    • @religionisapoison2413
      @religionisapoison2413 Před rokem

      Unless your time is worth $100/hr, isn't it worth it though as far as cost savings?

  • @kevinholland4156
    @kevinholland4156 Před 2 lety +2

    The advantage to a home-built solar system is that if something is not working you can swap it out. But if you have a Bluetti or any other box; you have to send the whole thing wherever. I would like a Bluetti but only as a secondary unit because they are portable. Whereas the one in my trailer is not very portable. Early on I built a solar setup on a hand cart before all these power stations were available. Jason, you amaze me with your abilities to help others achieve independence from the grid. This will be helpful in case the big earthquake hits us here in Utah.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety +2

      I was listening to the radio this morning while driving to work and they mentioned the chance of doing rolling power outages here on the Wasatch front during this heatwave! I thought that was only a California thing?! ... I guess these battery builds may come in handy if that ever becomes a thing here in Utah. I hope not!

    • @kevinholland4156
      @kevinholland4156 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Jasonoid I hope not either. I can always hook up my two Honda's and keep the refrigerator running and keep the ceiling fans going. And I still have my Hand truck solar system for incidentals.

  • @chrissinclair8705
    @chrissinclair8705 Před 2 lety +4

    This looks like a fun project. And I know you were a bit down on only having 180w for the AC but if you think about it, if you're putting it on AC you are probably plugging it in for the night so it shouldn't really be an issue, you would get a full charge probably in 10-12hours so it's not that bad. Also you'd probably get at least 80% of a charge after 8 hours and that's from dead. You probably wouldn't run it into the ground. What I would add if possible is a simple volt meter unless the volt meter on the DC out is the actual volts of the unit itself. Then you know once you get around the 11.8v mark the battery is pretty much done and needs charging. I have the exact same light and I love it. It only uses 5w of power and has the equivilent of a 60w bulb and has a little hook to hook it anywhere. Works great with my Golabs R300(Which doesn't have that DC cutoff software bug). I'm not sure if you've done this but maybe for fun have a bunch of low power USB/DC type devices to give people some options for a low power setup with links in the description to the models. You know like little fans, lights, comfort items that even a micro power station can run for a very long time. Maybe some LED light strips etc. Maybe have a DC plug in there that has a bunch of USB ports you can use. You know fun stuff that would make it more comfortable for campers or during a blackout. If it's during a heat wave it could save your life, say there was an elderly person even a very small 200wh cheap portable power station, a usb fan and a usb light. A lot of elderly people can die in heat waves, a decent sized USB fan may get them over the hump until the power comes back on. I would say it would be a great gift item for anyone for less than $200. If you want to go a little better as an example the Golabs R300 was $199 when I bought and they have specials on occasionally for a little more run time. It's very light so an elderly person or a child can carry it and has enough juice if your using low powered items for days without a solar or wall charge and the good thing is it's relatively inexpensive and uses LFP batteries which last a long time. Add even just a cheap 60w solar panel and you could run indefinitely if you had enough sun.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety +2

      I did come up with a Top 5 gadgets video a couple months ago, you can watch it here if you haven't seen it: czcams.com/video/134WJlvd0Pk/video.html
      Basically a video showing off USB and DC gadgets that work well on small power stations.

  • @farside87
    @farside87 Před rokem

    Just jumped onto this video. Looking to build a power station, but have realized a small one is probably not practical, but a mid range or higher might be. Don't want to get too heavy, otherwise it's not really portable. Maybe go with a main unit with a stackable add-on battery pack. That might be the way to go. Have a main unit with possibly a 2000 watt inverter and 100ah, and a companion box with and additional 200ah of battery storage.

  • @MIsterMacho88
    @MIsterMacho88 Před rokem

    Great DIY Power Station!👍💪

  • @JeffSkymaster
    @JeffSkymaster Před 2 lety +2

    I say have one of each, a lot of pleasure building DIY

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      Totally agree! Thanks Jeff

  • @valster6254
    @valster6254 Před 2 lety

    Super stuff Jasonoid

  • @lynnbb
    @lynnbb Před 2 lety

    🐾🐾Thanks Jason😎

  • @johnperry5960
    @johnperry5960 Před 2 lety +1

    As always, another great build thank you for this appreciate it

  • @cowdogconnoisseur2809

    Very exciting possibility!

  • @RenegadeBastard
    @RenegadeBastard Před 2 lety +1

    Fricken neat!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks Joshua! It's not too hard of a project!

  • @AntonKoval1
    @AntonKoval1 Před rokem +1

    Hey Jason! Thank you for the video. What would you suggest to pick as the charge controller if I don't need to charge the battery from solar panels?

  • @joshualeblanc3833
    @joshualeblanc3833 Před 2 lety +1

    A few suggestions. I would put inline fuses on the 3 inputs going into the MPPT, and anything connected direct to the battery positive. Also maybe diodes to avoid back feeding the 12v to 20v boost unit or the 120v/DC adapter. A terminal block could clean up all the wiring.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks for the suggestions Joshua. I was really wanting a terminal block for simplicity but I couldn't find a terminal block that was small enough, I bought two and both didn't fit! Haha
      The two DC chargers I used all have diodes so they won't backfeed. Not too worried about the AC charging, I probably won't use it much.

  • @SamScott-zg6pl
    @SamScott-zg6pl Před rokem

    I LIKE THIS

  • @brianabston1801
    @brianabston1801 Před 2 lety

    I agree.. smaller power stations and features add up and would probably make sense for most people to catch the vendor models on sale.. it’s when you want to just have 12v or things like that, DIY is the way to go… I was very interested in seeing how the multi charging was going to work.. sounds like it is not great as you can only do one input at a time. On my larger build I have solar in and then any of the other Anderson’s can be used to charge via 12v. Thanks for the build info. I was looking at the buck device as well so that answers some of my questions..

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      Thanks Brian. You get way more bang for your buck as you move up above 1000wh and 1500wh systems :) I'm a mostly DC guy myself.

  • @jacobhn2
    @jacobhn2 Před 2 lety

    Nice powerbank that will last for many years. I am building one too, I will use my battery from the electric bike it is at 36v 15Ah I will use a converter down to 24v most cigar-usb uses 12-24v I also have a 24v 1000w inverter 230v I only intend to use about 400w max with this setup. for solar input I will use a converter stepup from 20v to 40v

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      Sounds like a great build, thanks for sharing your idea!

  • @user-el6ys6dy9t
    @user-el6ys6dy9t Před 10 měsíci

    nice set-up! question; can you connect the dc 12v-24v converter straight to the main battery / alternator or do you need an isolatorin between (old car)?

  • @andyrichardson7558
    @andyrichardson7558 Před 2 lety

    I've been thinking about something like this for camping. I don't need the AC inverter or AC charging so I could save some money and simplify the build a bit. I could even use those savings to jump to the 100ah battery from the same supplier. The DC charging will require a bit more thought as I'd like to be able to charge from the vehicle's 12v socket as a backup to solar but a full DC to DC charging unit from the engine compartment may be worthwhile.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      The 100ah sized batteries wouldn't fit into this case, but the concept would be the same. Leaving out the AC inverter and charging would make this such an easy project :)

  • @DutchK75
    @DutchK75 Před 2 lety +1

    I don't even have to watch this to know it's a good build.

  • @davidparker7156
    @davidparker7156 Před 2 lety +3

    Great job makes the BLUETTI EB3A at 249.00, that you reviewed seem like a great deal. i realize its half the wattage but still. great price for what you get with the bluetti

    • @gsp49
      @gsp49 Před rokem

      I got a EB3A, for the charge controller, $209. New,Six months ago. I keep a 60 Ah LiFePO4 like this guy's to refill the Bluetti about six times.

  • @thatonebeone
    @thatonebeone Před 2 lety +1

    nice.. more than enough power for emergency or camping .. should last easy more then 10 years+ depending how you use it and take care of it

  • @debohannan4315
    @debohannan4315 Před rokem

    My biggest concern in using say a 50 cal size plastic box is after getting the power poles ,the battery meter the walkway light the map light / table top light , and the high speed USB , cigarette socket for outputs then the sae socket with volt/ amp meter for solar input , it leaves me just enough room for 2, li-ion battery packs and if careful the fuse box and 2 dc dc buds for charging frm solar and another to bring down the full 16.8v batteries to 13.6 . this is a tight pack but extremely useful. And I have been using orange boxes to stand out .

  • @hassaninel-gazzar3659
    @hassaninel-gazzar3659 Před 8 měsíci

    Is there a diode in this circuit? As I heard a sound when connecting 12 volts DC

  • @user--PM
    @user--PM Před 2 lety

    i am always interested in your diy builds, thanks for sharing. but yes i agree the cost of diy today is definetly pointing towards get it already built rather than diy, but with diy you can make it your own and are not limited by the choices in the prebuilt.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      Thanks PM, cost is probably leaning towards benefitting off the shelf options, at least for a small build like this. Going with a 2000wh or 3000wh setup, the cost benefit swaps over to DIY.

    • @baneverything5580
      @baneverything5580 Před 2 lety

      @@Jasonoid I ordered the 200 amp 300 amp hour LiFePo4 Ampere Time battery when the price fell from 1199 to 1036. I also ordered a 2000 watt pure sine inverter and a 60 amp MPPT charge controller, plus a 20 amp LiFePo4 charger. Now I have to figure out what to do next.
      Do you think it would be safe for the battery and other parts if I put 500 watts of solar panels outside propped up on the ground and wire all this up after a hurricane to power my 5000 BTU Frigidaire window air conditioner? The inverter has replaceable fuses and an "AC Grounding" point. This was a HUGE purchase for me and the last of my savings. Should I simply build a unit similar to what you`ve done here? I want to put it on wheels if so.
      Utilities are hooked up at my camper but not connected yet. I don`t know if the wiring is safe.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety +1

      You should be able to run your AC with that setup just fine. If you connect each component together properly with the proper wire size / and fuses there shouldn't be any risk of something going wrong. There are lots of videos and guides online about proper wire size and the amount of amps they will safely allow online.

    • @baneverything5580
      @baneverything5580 Před 2 lety

      @@Jasonoid I was gonna order 2 gauge but saw that the inverter has wires to connect the battery. I also ordered wires that were for charge controller to battery. I ordered some fuses but I have to think about this carefully first. I have a box of typical DC fuses somewhere. I have to get moved first.
      I can`t function around these mentally deranged freaks here. Trying to even think in the same house with my sister is futile. She`s making threats and called me crazy because I bought the battery with my OWN MONEY. She and my nephew both started hounding me about wanting air conditioning after hurricanes.
      They find somewhere to go where there`s a generator and told me I should just get a battery powered fan! The next time the power fails she can sit there in the dark. Why would she want to borrow a Bluetti EB70 from a crazy person?
      I`m from Louisiana but these two are REAL Rednecks....completely ignorant about what the battery I ordered can do and they don`t care why I want it. They were hoping they could talk me into hiring a bulldozer with the money to "level my yard" (RIDICULOUS!) and trick me into paying for having work done in THEIR YARDS too! This happened once before.And they think I`m too dumb to know this.

  • @dval2437
    @dval2437 Před rokem

    @jasonoid Could you please show how to build a DIY LiFePO4 battery pack to power Dashcams in parking mode? Something with fast pass through charging too so 20 minutes of driving will charge up the battery quite quickly. Current ready made dashcam batteries on the market are too expensive. Thank you so much for your videos!

  • @larrywiley1804
    @larrywiley1804 Před rokem

    I built 3 power boxes abt a year ago. I used 2- 12vdc 9Ah AGM batteries. I have a old, cheap car 500w inverter on just one. The other 2 have a 150w inverter ea. I will be upgrading to lifepo4 batteroes soon. The charge controllers aren't mppt but those will be upgraded as well. Original cost was $100.00.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      Sounds like a great build! My first build was also lead acid, once I found out about LFP I had to upgrade! So much more power density!

  • @jeromegrzelak8236
    @jeromegrzelak8236 Před rokem

    INTERESTING

  • @An_Eclectic_Mind
    @An_Eclectic_Mind Před 2 lety +1

    I watched the whole thing. I am really having a hard time retaining the science behind AC/DC power. I think it is just going to take me working with it hands on.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      It took me awhile, lots of terms and numbers to keep track of!

    • @dmo848
      @dmo848 Před 11 měsíci

      The inverter is the brains really. That plugs in the cig lighter

  • @yxcvmk
    @yxcvmk Před rokem

    7:45 Does this offer a limit on 12V SC charge (in case of a low power 123V-Source)?

  • @yxcvmk
    @yxcvmk Před rokem

    @9:55 Is assume the fuses "could" blow out of sync. Is this kind of wiring safe? As soon as one fuse pops, there will be twice the load on the remaining wire. On the other hand, then the other fuse will pop for sure, I guess.

  • @ericsmith2093
    @ericsmith2093 Před rokem

    I’m just learning but it seems you get a lot more WH’s for the money. Well explained video. Thank you

  • @budmartin3344
    @budmartin3344 Před 2 lety +1

    @9:42 looking at the diagram, the Output if the 12V to 24V Boost converter will be exposed up to 50V (max PV input of the MPPT), may be you should put blocking diode on the output of that 12V to 24V Boost converter since the output filter caps of the 12V to 24V Boost converter may not be rated to handle up to 50V, same check on the caps of the AC to DC 36V SMPS power supply. You should also check and see if there is Voltage at the Input (nothing connected to the input) of the 12V to 24V Boost converter when you have AC wall charging or PV panel connected to see if the Voltage is fed all the way to the input of the 12V to 24V Boost converter or not, that is why i suggest to put a blocking diode on the output of 12V to 24V Boost converter.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety +1

      The DC to DC converter has a diode in it so it doesnt backfeed. I have tested each charging option and it works well....other than conversion losses from going from 12v to 24v back to 14.6v

  • @cralgjohnson4618
    @cralgjohnson4618 Před 11 měsíci

    So I'm considering building my own power station but I need some help as I'm not sure if what I want to do will work. Can you recommend somewhere to get help with my build?

  • @bosun120
    @bosun120 Před rokem

    Hi Jason, would you publish a full schematic & parts list (seems you are missing some in description) for this build on your site?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      I have all the major components in the video description. Wiring diagram is in the video, everything else not featured in the wiring diagram wires up to the positive and negative battery terminals.

  • @rahulbiker81
    @rahulbiker81 Před 4 měsíci

    I saw ur video couple of times to understand the wiring of the DC DC converter and the MPPT solar charger and was wondering how would the charging stop when the battery is full ? Will it be the solar charger which will stop the charging or the BMS on the battery which will do it ? I am planning to build a power station myself with 100Ah prismatic cells hence want to underatsnd this a bit. Thanks.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 4 měsíci

      The battery BMS stops all charging input once the cells reach a certain voltage. It's great to have a BMS that protects from over charging and over discharging (unlike lead acid batteries).

  • @andyjack2368
    @andyjack2368 Před rokem

    nice video cool am going build my own power box I have 3 inverter 500 watts 800 watts 1100 watts I have 12 volt deep cycle battery 75 amp 900 watts I love your video how good would lithium battery would work in the cold may I asked

  • @9jmorrison
    @9jmorrison Před rokem

    Would not a more equipped inverter save time and bits/
    Also the AC inverter female plugs could been used as well.

  • @MarkHooten
    @MarkHooten Před 6 měsíci

    Just came across this. Looking at a DIY 100AH system with the triple charging method. Did you ever find a better AC/DC converter?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 6 měsíci +1

      It's best to use a normal AC to DC LFP battery charger.

  • @fluffyeggs
    @fluffyeggs Před 2 lety +1

    Biggest perk of diy is faster dc charging. 6-8 hour charge times on a lot of commercial offerings is their biggest con. An appropriately sized dc-dc converter and mppt controller wired directly to your cars battery will get charge times closer to 2 hours (or less).
    Also, you can use one of your dc output ports to parallel additional batteries for more capacity.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      I should have mentioned the parallel option as a HUGE perk. Thanks Fluffy Eggs!

  • @JT-lq4yd
    @JT-lq4yd Před 2 lety

    A DIY is not as sleek as a store purchased unit, but there are many benefits on a DIY as repairs are easy, upgradeable and can be made to suit your needs.
    I have a 100 ah LIFEPO4 battery, 1KW pure sine inverter and a charger ready to be placed into a box, just need some materials and time to complete the project.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      Nice setup J T, you'll love the amount of power in those 100ah batteries. I have a few options laying around and you can run a small load FOREVER!

    • @JT-lq4yd
      @JT-lq4yd Před 2 lety

      @@Jasonoid Your build is great and very similar to what I have planned to make, simple but very effective with DC, USB A and C and 120V AC out. For charging, AC input and high current 12v. This allows bypassing charging the of battery while charging USB devices or even AC power. 100ah is a lot yet not enough. I have ran some, although not scientific tests, to see how long certain household appliances could run from that battery. 3 loads of laundry used about 45% and the furnace can go approximately 3.5 continous hours on a full charge. My 12v portable cooler/freezer pulls around 45 watts on eco mode, this will run for a whole weekend on battery power alone.

  • @aachow88
    @aachow88 Před 2 lety

    Big thanks Jason for thie video, I have a question... You mention that only one charge method can be used at a time, so you can't have both solar and a 12v car socket plugged in at the same time? I was hoping that was something I can do, leave both a 12v cig outlet and solar plugged in at the same time so I don't have to swap between them depending on the sunlight.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety +1

      If you had two dedicated chargers you could have both power inputs at the same time, however since I daisy chained the charging setup in this build to save space it wasn't possible to include two different chargers.

  • @mraquanaut126
    @mraquanaut126 Před 7 měsíci

    Hi, great vid! Question...
    How do you work out what size inverter is compatible with the battery size? You have a 50ah battery with 500w inverter, what would the max size be for a 75ah or 100ah. Thanks from 🇬🇧

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 7 měsíci

      It's all about amps. Usually the battery will have a maximum amperage in the specs. For example, a 50ah LFP battery will usually have a 50 amp limit. 12.8v x 50 amps is 640 watts (volts x amps = watts). So a 50ah battery will support a 500w inverter. A 100ah battery with a 100 amp BMS will support 1280 watts (12.8v X 100a= 1280 watts).

  • @Chinhnguyen0497
    @Chinhnguyen0497 Před rokem

    why do you need 2 of DC to DC converter?

  • @user-fs4fd3gv3r
    @user-fs4fd3gv3r Před 2 lety +1

    Warm air rises so it would be better to have the fan pulling hot air out rather than pushing downwards. Even better to have 2 fans

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      Either way will work fine, pushing over the converters worked fine. The air flow of one 120mm is plenty for this setup.

  • @ricardofranco4114
    @ricardofranco4114 Před 3 měsíci

    I have 2 20ah lifep04 batteries. I want to do something like this. Upgraded to a big 100ah lifep04 battery.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 3 měsíci +1

      The larger capacity is nice!

  • @michaellitz7498
    @michaellitz7498 Před rokem

    Can u do a build useing an. Lead acid 20 hr battery????

  • @richardhobbs7107
    @richardhobbs7107 Před 2 lety

    Your build looks like a military tractor while the Bluetti looks like a 'supermodel' .
    I would go with Paris Hilton's opinion on this one : "Thats 'Hot'" ! !

    • @richardhobbs7107
      @richardhobbs7107 Před 2 lety

      PS : Have 'built' a lot of things with great satisfaction of the results, so I 'get' where you're coming from. To try and build my Honda Pacific Coast motorcycle from a bunch of individually obtained parts would probably not come out well.
      czcams.com/video/9tOC8eK-ct8/video.html
      (Some owner add-ons made this one a little better) . . . . take care, RH

  • @n9iui
    @n9iui Před rokem

    Hi Jason. I have been planning a battery box for a while and I like your design. I built one using most of the same parts you used, including the same battery (the Lifepo4). I’m having a problem though. When I try to charge the battery on 12 volts from a 20 amp Astron power supply it ended up pulling the power supply down to 10 volts and was pulling 26 amps! The 12 to 24 boost module is only rated for 10 amps so I’m not sure what went wrong. Do you have any ideas? Thanks!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      It rated for 10 amps on the output side so lets take a look at the equation of power: volts X amps = watts (24v X 10 amps is 240 watts). Looking at the input side, the power would be the same, around 240 watts total.... so that's 12v X 20 amps to get the same power. Remember power input has to be near power output, PLUS some additional losses for conversion. I think I was seeing around 24 amps on the input side of mine.

  • @user-fs4fd3gv3r
    @user-fs4fd3gv3r Před 2 lety

    Can you build a version with a meter similar to the EB70 so you can see watts in and out, etc

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      That's definitely possible. You'd want to look for a display that has a shunt with it. The shunt tracks the amperage and voltage so it can calculate power in and out of the battery.

  • @Texasprepper
    @Texasprepper Před rokem

    I decided to build a portable power supply as well. My mission parameters.....I couldnt purchase anything. So....just using what I had around the house....zombie apocalypse style. I used a plastic locking pistol case, a new 55ah sla battery, a pwm charge controller, and a digital guage. I put mc4 leads on the charge controller....and I built a long 12 volt cig plug with mc4 connections. I can use solar panels or swap to the cig lighter cable. I can use a battery charger for ac charging or a 12 volt adapter. I hooked it up to a 1500 watt power inverter. It all fits in the briefcase. I call it my suitcase nuke.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      Awesome build! I love that you didn't purchase anything and used various things that were laying around!

  • @tompeterson4628
    @tompeterson4628 Před 8 měsíci

    Which one is best used in winter temperatures?

    • @tompeterson4628
      @tompeterson4628 Před 7 měsíci

      Lead acid is better for cold weather situations.

  • @chiefwren
    @chiefwren Před rokem

    There are incompatibilities' with this design. The Powerwerx MPPT-300 Solar Charger Controller is a great choice for a compact MPPT charger. However, the other two devices to feed the MPPT will not work as supplies to MPPT solar charges. Either use separate changing devices suited to DC/DC and AC/DC. Besides solar panels, only CC CV Power Supplies work as a source of power for solar chargers. The earlier video that introduced d the Powerwerx MPPT-300 testing with a Benchtop power supply, which is a CC-CV source.

  • @bntravelin2
    @bntravelin2 Před 2 lety

    i built my own 30 amp hour battery 20 watt solar panel on 30 foot extension cord for my ham radio portable ops

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      Sounds like a great setup, Terry!

  • @jasonbroom7147
    @jasonbroom7147 Před 2 lety +1

    Another very cool video. This looks like a nice, "right-sized" solution for camping trips or short power outages.
    Do you have a link for the voltage display/USB charging connections that includes the USB-C PD port? It would be a huge bonus to find one that is bi-directional, but that is probably too much to hope for, right? :)

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety +1

      I can't comment on the quality of this part since I haven't purchased it myself but it isn't very expensive: amzn.to/3tD8FNB

    • @baneverything5580
      @baneverything5580 Před 2 lety

      A 500 watt one (not homemade)n I have can power a 3.1 cubic ft dorm fridge for 24 hours.

  • @LipsMalloy
    @LipsMalloy Před 2 lety

    With no display, how do you know what the battery level is? Otherwise, very cool DIY.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      You learn the voltage curve of Lifepo4 batteries pretty quickly. These batteries basically stay at 13.2 volts until its around 15% full and then the voltage drops rapidly. Once you see around 12.3v - 12v on the display, it's time to charge it back up.

  • @mygadgetzhaiqal7410
    @mygadgetzhaiqal7410 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I think the design a bit flaw. 1. Do not use fire catching material like a wooden board there. 2. Charging require CC-CV.

  • @brentcrane6632
    @brentcrane6632 Před rokem

    I'm thinking of making a portable power station like this. I've noticed that inverters come with a ground terminal. Is it safe to ignore this?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      Most gas Generators use a floating ground which means it's not connected to anything.

  • @norbsobil744
    @norbsobil744 Před 5 měsíci

    What will happen if you plug more than one charging option?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 5 měsíci

      It will charge faster.

  • @sesa2984
    @sesa2984 Před 4 měsíci

    450$ is pretty good sized investment, do you know how much costlier it would be to buy an equivalent setup premade?

  • @jaberg2597
    @jaberg2597 Před rokem

    Hi Jason, I have a question for you. On a Diy build like this, could I plug in a Bestek 500 watt pure sine wave inverter into my cigarette lighter port in my vehicle. And then plug in a Victron 5 amp trickle charger into the pure sine wave inverter and charge a lithium battery? The Victron is adjustable from 5 amps to 2 amps. I know there would be some efficiency loss. Can you see any downsides to this?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      Your cig port is probably limited to 10 amps, or a 120 watts max. So don't go over that wattage or you'll blow the fuse. If everything randomly shuts off, then the fuse was blown. Other than that it should work just fine. I'd only do this if the engine is running so I wouldn't kill the starter battery.

    • @jaberg2597
      @jaberg2597 Před rokem

      @@Jasonoid Thanks for the quick response

  • @ZooDudeYT
    @ZooDudeYT Před rokem

    how do you know when the battery is fully charged. can a solar panel overcharge the battery and hurt it?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      Lifepo4 batteries have a BMS that protects the battery from overcharging and over discharging the battery. You can tell its full when the voltage of the battery is 14.4v and empty when the voltage starts dropping below 12v.

  • @vijayrao7800
    @vijayrao7800 Před rokem

    do you have a link for the capacity tester?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      Did you mean this one: amzn.to/3CPS4e8
      I use this one for all my DC discharge tests.

  • @aznsushi41
    @aznsushi41 Před měsícem

    Can I use my AGM 70ah instead of lifepo?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před měsícem

      Yep, that will be very similar.

  • @dorsch250
    @dorsch250 Před rokem

    Not gonna lie, this makes me somewhat regret ordering myself a bluetti eb70..
    Suggestion for the future: explore the possibilities of using newer larger battery packs connected to the electronics of commercial powerstations.
    Think: 700Wh of the eb70 is not enough after my requirements change a few years down the road, could i take apart the powerstation and simply attach a large lifepo4 battery (or multiple in series depending on voltage) to where the stock battery pack normally would attach inside the powerstation? Would be nice to reuse all the charging electronics in the future.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      I did a video about that actually: czcams.com/video/dTTneUtz4Jk/video.html

  • @stevekent3991
    @stevekent3991 Před 7 měsíci

    You don’t need a direct AC charging input. Use a laptop charger or any similar AC to DC power brick as long as the output voltage range is between 9-20V DC. You can then use your DC 9-20V DC input. You will need to make an adaptor, barrel jack to power pole, or whatever configuration is required depending on the output connector of your power brick. Alternatively replace the barrel jack connector from your power brick to use power pole.
    Really you only need one DC input (solar MPPT). Not sure why your MPPT needs a minimum of 20V? I would have thought it could still charge from 12V, isn’t that one of the main benefits of using MPPT, so you can still charge in low light conditions?

  • @bigbandguru
    @bigbandguru Před 5 měsíci

    I think that today the technology for buying a much smaller and more powerful power station is way less expensive than sourcing components and DIY.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 5 měsíci

      This is an older video (youtube recommends old video now for some reason...) I agree, power station prices have dropped quite a bit and they are much better now.

    • @lawrencedavidson6195
      @lawrencedavidson6195 Před 2 měsíci

      I doubt that a power station is less expensive than a DIY. Prices of components like the LiFePo4 batteries have come down a lot recently.

  • @delagto_5340
    @delagto_5340 Před 6 měsíci

    What controls over charging and discharging the battery

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 6 měsíci

      The battery has a built in BMS (battery management system) that controls all that.

    • @delagto_5340
      @delagto_5340 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Jasonoid when would you be able to tell when it’s charged when the batter shows 14.6 volts on the meter and what is the dead voltage.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@delagto_5340 all that info is in the owners manual for the battery. 14.4 - 14.6v is full, anything below 12v means the battery is dead. LFP is usually around 13.2v while discharging.

  • @davemack7740
    @davemack7740 Před 2 lety

    👍

  • @raiden72
    @raiden72 Před rokem

    Friend says that the DC/DC 120w converter keeps blowing his car 12v outlet for some reason. I assume he has a 15a fuse but is there a solution in this case or anyone experiencing similar issue? (Besides directly wiring it to the car battery?)

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      Usually they have 10 amp fuses, that's probably why.

    • @raiden72
      @raiden72 Před rokem

      ​@@Jasonoidthanks! he said it was working for awhile fine with 15a fuse,
      But "then one time I had like three phones and two ecigs also plugged in at the same time to the cigarette outlets and that was the first time it blew and then since then no matter what even if it's just the battery bank plugged in it blows right away"
      So weird tbh.
      we also tried the AC to DC converter from this build (which was labeled as not very good lol) but it made a huge popping noise and a resistor blew on the converter. I think the MPPT was sucking 300w but the AC converter was max 180w and wonder if a larger wattage would support the 300w mppt, not sure if there is a solution to swap out that ac/dc with a better part somewhere that won't die?
      Really cool project! I am just trying to get my friend and his box up to speed 😅

    • @raiden72
      @raiden72 Před rokem

      ​@@Jasonoidhey I figured out why his fuse was tripping on the 12v outlet in the car, the DC-DC 12-24V converter blew up in the box and one of the capacitors blew in it. Seems the MPPT Is still fine, I wonder is there a good replacement for this 12-24v converter that won't blow it's cap after awhile? I don't think we crossed any wires because the battery had successfully charged itself a couple times, but for some odd reason, the DC 12-24 converter blew itself up, along with the AC/DC converter that blew itself up, almost like the 300w MPPT is sucking too much power from both devices??? Like the AC to DC is 180w~ and the DC to dc is 24v5a which would support 120 watts max, but if the MPPT is trying to suck out the MAX of that, is that too much for the other components? How to fix it so that neither of the components blow themselves up? I feel like the 300w MPPT is too powerful for the other two components that it's sucking from, but Im not electronics expert and can't tell for sure if that is the cause of both items popping caps 😢

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      Probably best to run the solar by itself, then buy a real DC to DC charger so he can chose one or the other to charge from (solar or 12v input)

  • @VortexTheGreat69
    @VortexTheGreat69 Před 2 lety

    Why would you need to charge with DC ? Faster charging? What puts out DC that would charge it?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      A car or boat while driving

  • @billy2bob63
    @billy2bob63 Před 2 lety

    A not related to this video question for ya. That bluetti AC300 has solar charging capabilities of 2400 watts max between two different legs so if I bought 24 100 watt solar panels and ran 12 of them each in series and hooked them up to each mppt leg will that work out ok? Am I following along with all this correctly? I think I get it lol

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      Hey Kerry,
      The maximum input for the AC300 is 150 volts, so you can actually only connect 6 panels in series together to keep under the max charging voltage. So on each MPPT charge controller you can make a mixed array of series and parallel connections to get it to work properly. (25 volts per panel X 6 panels = 150volts for the total array) For example, take TWO sets of 6 panels in series and join them into parallel so each charge controller would have 12 panels (6S2P). That would give you 1200 watts of power @ 150volts and 8 amps.
      Now you would double the same setup on the other charge controller and it would give you a total of 24 panels or around 2400 watts. Does that make sense?

    • @billy2bob63
      @billy2bob63 Před 2 lety

      @@Jasonoid
      Yes!!!! Ok now I see and get it. I can get the Renogy 100 watt panels for a $100 each so that's why I want to use them. That's a lot of panels I know but for the price I guess a good value.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      @@billy2bob63 you can always start with 12 panels, and the grow your system from there.

    • @billy2bob63
      @billy2bob63 Před 2 lety

      @@Jasonoid
      I know but I have the money for them (24) so just get them all at once. So would you think with 24 100 watt panels tied in like you said to that AC300 on a good day should be able to get plenty of power for that battery to run a fridge and freezer and maybe charge that battery for the night. What you think?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      @@billy2bob63 I am able to run two fridges throughout the day on only 1600 watts of solar, but I live in an area that gets really good sun. I get down to about 25% battery in the morning powering just two fridges. You may need more battery capacity, but you can always buy that later.

  • @kacperkosowski9506
    @kacperkosowski9506 Před 10 měsíci

    We have used the czcams.com/users/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!

  • @patrickdk77
    @patrickdk77 Před rokem

    Just remove the 12v->24v boost converter and use DC Automatic Buck Boost Converter DC 8V-40V to 13.8V 10A stright to the battery

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      13.8 won't fill up the battery 100%, you want 14.6 volts, so I'm guessing you can adjust it to that as well.

    • @patrickdk77
      @patrickdk77 Před rokem

      @@Jasonoid Yes, it's only like 92-95% full at 13.8v. I float it with this in the car, and basically leave the battery station to act like a ups and large current buffer, as I use a 750w inverter on it

  • @KnowThyZomB
    @KnowThyZomB Před 10 měsíci

    Can someone tell me why this doesn't need to be grounded in anyway to be safe?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 10 měsíci

      Just like 99% of the population doesnt ground a gas generator and they survive.

  • @locascioantonino
    @locascioantonino Před 2 lety

    How are you doing boss I’m here

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      Good to hear from you Antonino!

  • @Truckinman2000
    @Truckinman2000 Před rokem

    You cannot charge a LifePo4 battery from a car. To charge from DC it has to be from another LifePo4 battery or a solar charge controller made for LifePo4.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      That's why I have an LFP charger inside.

  • @kaydog890
    @kaydog890 Před 9 měsíci

    Looks like a fire waiting to happen
    Your inverter mains are now exposed, something comes loose (like that charge controller) and cya later.
    So are your ring terminals; 12v won't kill but it'll still short and cause a fire.
    Would recommend an isolator switch. Both safety and prevent it knocking on in the boot of your vehicle.
    Please don't make it out like it's easy, and anyone should build one.
    Viewers: if you don't have the know how, and have not worked with electricy, this is not the thing to learn on...

  • @maniclokofe4585
    @maniclokofe4585 Před rokem

    Can I start a business by building a power station and resell them ?????

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      I wish you the best of luck! There are lots of opportunities since the market is still growing! You just need to find out what people really want and how to get it at a decent price.

  • @coreyhealth8523
    @coreyhealth8523 Před 2 lety

    Do you want sell any of your power stations?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      Ctechi GT500, Golabs R500 I could part with right now

  • @evelyny7037
    @evelyny7037 Před rokem

    Just saw some good reviews on one called, “Bawaut.” Have you heard of that one and is it actually identical to another one under a different label? Thx!

  • @Moes_Prep_and_Tech
    @Moes_Prep_and_Tech Před 2 lety

    Would it be cheating if I took that same box and put a Bluetti EB3A in it? lol

  • @andrewacedo4069
    @andrewacedo4069 Před 2 měsíci

    Im so fucking lost. Lol

  • @MyChannel-vm6dw
    @MyChannel-vm6dw Před 2 lety

    @18:13 ^kinda made a lot of noise....like it was going to explode^ WTF

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety +1

      Just electrical buzzing noises... I need to do more testing lol. I did have a lithium NMC battery pack explode while camping those week! I'll have that video out soon.

    • @MyChannel-vm6dw
      @MyChannel-vm6dw Před 2 lety

      @@Jasonoid sorry, but that statement didn't give me any confidence to attempt this DIY build. Rather pony up the extra money for a reputable prebuilt that's likely not going to put me or my family at risk.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety +2

      That's why I said use a different method for charging via AC... But whatever your choice, my advice is go with Lifepo4 instead of NMC.

  • @Texasprepper
    @Texasprepper Před 2 lety

    why didnt you just put a cigarette lighter cord directly to the battery?....or build a cord to plug cig lighter to cig lighter???

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      In my opinion, cig ports are the worst connection. I have an adapter that goes from APP to a female cig port if I absolutely need one.

    • @Texasprepper
      @Texasprepper Před 2 lety

      @@Jasonoid but you wanted to charge from 12 volt....and you already have 12 volt ports in your unit....power goes both ways!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      You can't 'charge' a lithium battery using a lead acid battery, you need a proper charging method using an actual battery charger.

    • @Texasprepper
      @Texasprepper Před 2 lety

      @@Jasonoid depends on the voltage of the battery doesnt it?....and whether it has a built in bms. I say you try it while filming...outside where it is safe. Whats the worst that could happen? Lol.

  • @chuckchamplin6627
    @chuckchamplin6627 Před 2 lety

    does not look like it is water proof.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 2 lety

      I didn't claim it was waterproof in the video.

  • @priusdwelling504
    @priusdwelling504 Před rokem

    Time to take this video down. The Blueetti Eb-70 ,ready to go, is superior in every way at the same cost. Nothing to build, 2 year 😮warranty. There is NO reason to build this!!

  • @sandro5137
    @sandro5137 Před rokem

    Show!