Can A Makita Mid-Torque Remove a Semi-Truck Lug Nut? QuickTest 6
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For tool only, currently $233: amzn.to/3tZjPdc The Makita mid-torque takes on the rest of the field in our 18-wheeler "Big nuts" test.
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Ryobi 1/2 impact? Not on chart? 🤪
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So glad I went with Makita. (And Ingersoll Rand for air impact)
Please! Put a torque wrench on your dyno. I’d really like to see how a clicker or digital torque wrench corresponds with your calibration.
Great idea, it would give us an even better perspective
seriously. because how was that impact putting out way less than 500 ft lbs yet it was able to blast off that nut. something is way off with his machine.
@@dangerdavefreestyle Less torque is required to loosen a torqued fastener 🧐
@@truckdirty so youre saying if a bolt is torqued to 200 ft lbs it does not take 200 ft lbs to remove it? perhaps only 190 or 195 ft lbs is needed? that does not sound right. maybe it is but i dont have any proof of such scenario, i would like to see an example.
@@dangerdavefreestyle that's exactly what's being said. It's easier to loosen a clean bolt than it is to tighten a clean bolt. Rust and age may change that, but as a general rule, that bolt is gonna come off faster than it went on
I was imagining you were going to go out to a truck stop and randomly loosen some lugs.
But seriously, it would be interesting to see how it worked against some potentially rusted on nuts vs. a clean freshly torqued one.
DeBoss Garage went out to the junkyard with the big Milwaukee 3/4" battery powered impact and did some good stuff. It was a few months ago, maybe last summer or fall. It was a good "real world" test that proved it has some muscle.
There's some nuts, or rather bolts, you just can't un-do with an impact gun. At work, we've got two "claw guns", the big Milwaukees with the "chainsaw" grip. I forget what the anvil size is, but we JUST use them for removing hold down claws. We're by the Gulf, so *everything* rusts, even stainless, and we only have access to the bolts, not the nuts. If water has got in there and eaten through whatever moly-lube was on the bolts, and there's a big circumferential rust wad, we're left with prying off the locking plates on the back to access the nuts. There's always one or two out of 30 bolts we have to do this for.
The point is; you can't standardize a rusted test. While externally visibly identical, there's different stuff going on inside that produces VASTLY different breakaway torques.
Check out the Singlecams channel. He has lots of videos testing impact wrenches on rusty ass axle nuts in junkyards, including this makita.
As a small real life example. Took my summer wheels off my bmw last week which were torque at 130nm. Took as long as the 500ft pounds bolt here on average. Of course with a smaller socket on the dtw700.
Now put that on a live big rig nut that's been typically rattled on with a 1" lol. Anyway, love the channel and the comparisons! Keep up the great work.
Test the latest Makita hi-torque! I want to see where my gun falls on the List Of Greatness!
Spend your money on tools, this channel only costs you a click. We'll do the Maktia hi-torque as well as every last one of them on this channel!
im waiting for the same, just be patient and wait in line like everyone else. it'll come out eventually
I got the high torque, can't wait for a video of it
If that’s the 40v one, there’s a test up now! It’s a monster.
I like the compactness of the Gen 2 Milwaukee, to me compact size is very desirable in a mid-torque impact. However impressive numbers/power from the Makita.
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When opening nut, the reality is found at the far end of the graph, as non turning nut have no flex, like hydraulic measuring equipment have when pressure is rising. Meaning, every hammer hit is giving max torq blows when nut is not turning. So the graph should be looked at the opposite end first when opening bolts. imo
You guys should do a video of all the Ingersoll Rand 3/8" air impacts ( 2115TiMax, 2115QTiMAX, 2115QXPA, and maybe the 15QMAX)
My downer with Makita Cordless Tools is how many times for my self and others on site we have come to a stop with smoke coming from them. I am no brand snob and have a number of brands tools but from my experience they tend to fail the most. Over the last few years we have noticed probably everyone with Makita to maybe three or four still using them.
Awesome video. Is the skil 1/2 impact wrench going to make it's way on?
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Can you test torque sticks for accuracy? Would love to see how close they are
I want you to take that makita out in the field n see how it does on a semi trailer with rusted studs from Michigan. If it can bust all 10 then I'll give it respect for it's ability on semi lugs
absolutely, i agree....syracuse salt and 1000ft pound impacts at tire stores do not make a good combo....this electric wouldn't last 1 wheel
This wouldn’t take one lug off, much less an entire set of 10
@@jessethompson1545 my point exactly lol
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What’s the proper procedure for that kind of situation? Do you take a wire brush to the threads first? Replace the nuts and studs every season?
Test the Dewalt DCF891B Mid Torque claims fastening torque of 600 ft-lbs and Max breakaway torque of 800 ft-lbs against the Makita and Milwaukee Mid Torque Impact wrenches
Nice video. Great data point.
You mentioned the Milwaukee battery tech in the video and have done dyno vids comparing
the high output to the 18650s. Did that small difference on the dyno translate to any real world performance on those lugs?
Sir, please do torque test for each 3 settings of Makita dtw701z. Or you may compare it to other brands on the same category. Thank you. Very informing video.
That Makita was slick as snot taking off that lug.
It would be cool to see a dyno on the flexzilla high flow air line fittings compared to your standard size air fitting.
Good stuff, as always. Big fan.
I just bought a NitroCat 1200K to help me undo a Honda/Acura V6 crank bolt so I can redo the cam belt and water pump. These are notorious for being very tight. It seemed like a good $$$/torque quotient and with a sturdy trigger and quiet exhaust. Wish me luck.
It might be worth doing longer runs for this reason. I only know how to read the graphs, not the scenarios and situations these tools would be used in. But it might be worth tweaking the graphs with longer runs to show more clearly how the wrench performs vs a specific bolt torque. I'd imagine the differential of the power vs the power itself might be a much better graph - users could just look along to the torque they encounter and see which is higher on the chart. Rather than a direct readout from the meter it would be showing how quickly a bolt is moved vs a specific torque. Possibly only useful in reverse, and doesn't as cleanly translate to a single number for the charts, but still far easier to understand and convert to the performance we see in this test (even for people who don't understand the maths behind the chart).
In the future, could you maybe match the graph line color and text to the color of tools being tested? Red for Milwaukee, Blue for Makita, dayglo green for Ryobi, Orange for Rigid, etc.
And larger fonts on graph? Its difficult if not impossible to read the tiny text on a cell phone screen.
@Torque Test Channel Can you explain the difference between the Makita XWT18Z and XWT18XVZ(pin detent models) ? They seem to have the same stats and are bare tools but the XVZ costs quite a bit more...
Test the astro pneumatic 4890 air hammer AKA Big Nasty
Go pull lugs off an actual semi I guarantee it won't do it.
it needs a real world test...a guy i worked with tried his Snap-on electric on a big rig and it FAILED...i zipped it right off with my 3/4" Ingersoll
a little rust makes a huge difference. definitely needs a revisit
Is that a 1/4 inch or 1/2 inch impact?
The other day I tried removing a 33mm lug nut with my 1/2 HF Earthquake XT, 3/8 hose high flow fittings. That gun struggled hard to remove the nuts. I was successful to get two though so there's that. Safe to say I won't be reaching for a "mid torque" to remove heavy duty lug nuts 😅
Haha.. Same, I grabbed a 33 mm socket with my mid torque Ridgid that's rated at 624' ft-lbs breakaway it did take off a 500 ft-lbs lug nut from a big rig but it took about 20 seconds but it do it. lol
Makita 40v 3/4" anytime soon?
I would really like to see how Dewalt DCF894 would perform compared to those other big names.
The Yellow Tool is overrated.
Could you try Cheap vs expensive torque wrenches
Damn I’m in the market for one of these but I think I’m gonna go with the 40v stuff
before i watch the video...i will say NO...BUT after watching the video, i am shocked ...although it is a brand new stud and nut, 500 foot pounds is good.....however as a truck mechanic for 25 years and all the lugs I took off over the years, this gun would NEVER take off the lugs on 90% of the rigs out there because 1) tire stores put their lugs on over 700+ foot pounds and 2) rusted studs and nuts make it hard for a 3/4" drive impact gun to get them off easily....i have seen tire shops put on lugs with 1" impact guns and after a few moths of rust, i have spent 10 minutes taking off lugs on ONE wheel....so back to the test, YES, it works on a new stud and nut but in the real world, it won't work 90% of the time
I totally agree with your findings as well, my exposure to truck lug nuts is on my farm and farm neighbours struggling to get off the lug nuts as well if they have rusted on. I had this discussion with this channel and they agree with the real world condition of wheel end hardware vs new hardware but as they pointed out its impossible to create a consistent fair test for the tools other then what they are doing with new studs. I have the Milwaukee high torque and have experimented with it on a freshly installed lug nut using the drops of oil on the stud and the two in one nut and it will take them off without too much work. Forget it with the next wheel that has not been off in a few years, 1/2 tools are over their head to ever expect to work with hardware like that but some channels on youtube ( not this one ) still pretend their 1/2 impact is up for the task which is false and misleading.
Thanks for the video
It seems wildly different than my experience with a 1/2" drive 18v impact wrench from Makita that I bought a month ago. Advertised 240 ft. lbs of loosening power. Tried it on my F-150 whose lugs are 150#, lightly never seized. Ran it for about two minutes and it just couldn't budge them. Got out the air gun and it spun them off without blinking. 1/2" drive Pittsburg long anvil. Tried them by hand with a 1/2" drive and they seemed about 150# worth of grunt. So why is mine so much different? This was the very first use with a fully charged six amp battery. I bought it because its little brother 1/4" impact has done a great job for me the past five years. Punching in 4" lag screws by the dozen on a single charge building my shop. Never a miss. Thousands of screws in the sheathing and purlins, boxed beam rafters, insulation, steel roofing and siding, the list goes on and on. Doesn't look like this 1/2" is going to be much use at all!
You should have got the Makita XWT-14. It's more powerful than the Milwaukee Fuel M12 and the Milwaukee M12 removed bolts on another channel that was tightened down to 450 ft lbs. So the Makita XWT-14 should be able to remove nuts torqued to 450 ft lbs fairly easy. Possibly up to 500 ft lbs.
manufacturers are full of shit with their advertised torque ratings the same way they are with shop vac horsepower ratings if you watch Jeremy Fieldings channel.....they lie about everything, promotional offers, food labels, 2 post auto lift capacities......they know your eyes will go straight to the torque number, i dont go by numbers, i go by real world tests with videos of guys who go around a junkyard and blast off various rusty bolts
How much power new Milwaukee M18 2867 really got ?
Do the 750 ft lbs for the makita!
Is this the same as the dtw700-701?
Could you test the Kobalt XTR
so the big 3/4" torque wrench tightened it to 500 ft lbs yet the impact was able to get it off no prob but on your machine and graph it produces nowheres near that much torque?
If there any way for you to measure the force of the hammer impact inside the anvil?
Yes, there are digital gauges that measure dynamic torque. They are around $5,000 and the actual number they spit out isn't comparable to anything really. But does allow you to compare power per blow.
On the graphs did you accidentally use the picture for the M18 compact to represent the M18 mid torque? Great content though, thank you.
Yeah, google image search for 2962-20 and blindly copy pasting an image link from results may have steered us wrong there!
What about the big bolt just 18 years old?
I'm impressed it broke the semi lug loose... not bad!
see my reply above
Thanks a lot ...
If u can test kobalt xtr impact driver it will be appreciated. ..
One of the mechanics at our bus shop has it. It performs pretty well, though not nearly as quick as the milwaukee or makita. If I had to guess I would wager 6-7 seconds. Far from shabby for the money.
Lol so good it loosens all the lugs at the same time 😁
Please test some torque multipliers .
Let's go!! Was working on a Volvo VNL with a Detroit 60 series today
I have the new makita XWT18Z and can’t find any reviews on it! I wonder if the xwt17z is the same?? List the same torque specs as the 18z but has some technical features on the tool for different speeds and stuff..,
It's the pin detent version of this tool, same tool.
@@TorqueTestChannel gotcha!!! Thx
It is not a semi truck lug nut, just a 32 mm nut. You have to go to a truck stop and remove a lug nut, that is a test.
Thanks
what is the difference of Makita XWT18Z to Makita XWT17Z same performance?!
Just anvil type, same beans
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Torque on an F350 from the last decade is 165ft-lbs. 150 is for cone style lug nuts on an F-350, not steel nuts.
I think.... all 500ft pounds of tightening torque aren't necessarily the same. With a wheel, there is some "spring" in the wheel that should hold a little longer verses the flat plate. I may be wrong. So it would be neat to see an actual lug nut on a semi wheel setup for comparison.
I would bet $100 that the Makita XWT-14 compact 1/2" could remove that lug nut in less than 20 seconds with a 4 amp hour battery or higher.
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Driver vs. Drill Matters
Why semi truck?
Makita 1/2” 40v
You should test some kobalt stuff. I have the non xtr 1/2" and it seems to perform well. I think it's rated for 650 ft lbs which I feel is at least somewhat close.
Nice
SUPERDUTY f350 f250 lug nuts Ford spec is 165ft lbs not 150
I have the XWT08Z and even it required a few cycles of penetrating oil and hits to break away some rusty leaf spring bolts. I was almost ready to get out the MAPP gas torch...
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Easy as pie
The time (every time) the guy before you rattled them on with a 1/2" high torque or 3/4" impact this is useless.
Using blue line for a red tool and orange line for a blue tool … not confusing AT ALL!!! lol
Not that it matters, but I’m pretty sure you used the m18 compact picture on your graph
Yes but that doesn’t mean a lug nut that’s rusted on
What’s your take on The Den Of Tools Rant?
your graph colors are messing with my mind
This MAY have been before we knew how to customize those :p
which has a 33mm nut...*my car's 32mm axel nut and 19mm lug nut*
Wooo
That was too easy.
gg makita
I wanna see what torque this badboy can do with a 5Ah High Output Milwaukee battery strapped on. There's a test of a Makita XWT11 impact with that Milwaukee battery & the Makita is seems roughly 30% more powerful!
Relevance? If the Makita mid torque can crack 600 lbs/ft it would well and truly render high torque impacts redundant for people working on standard light vehicles, aka most people.
Check out the test here czcams.com/video/CfljHHItVTI/video.html
Btw this is one of the best channels that I've found in a while. You're doing a service for people everywhere by doing these tests. There's a really refreshing feeling to watching these tests that's beyond just watching tools being tested, it feels more like you're dispelling lies & restoring some more honesty to the world. Not to mention it'll save many people lots headache of figuring out these tools' performance by trial and error. Thanks a bunch!
does it not bug anyone else that he doesnt double click the torque wrench? everytime on the semi lugnut im waiting for the 2nd click and its not there lol
What I heard from those who are "supposed to know" is that the second click is over-torquing the nut. One click is tight. Two clicks is over tight. Don't shoot the messenger.
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This test means nothing about removing nuts
Ryobi is not even in the same Ball Park so quit it.