Made in "Japan" Makita Better? Let’s find out!
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- Made in "Japan" Makita vs made in "China" Makita impact driver comparison. Let's compare maximum torque, no load RPM, speed at removing lug nuts, and speed driving in fasteners. Finally, let's tear down both tools to compare the internal parts. I always buy all of the products tested and never accept sponsorships or even promotional items to ensure unbiased comparison testing. So, thanks for supporting the channel!
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I worked on a Honda production line for 16 years. The Makita made in Japan was used two shifts per day (80 hours per week). The tools were dropped at least a dozen times a day. It preformed flawless. The only issue was the batteries. They lasted maybe 1,000 charges. I wore out and retired before the Makita's did.
Thanks for sharing.
Turns out the batteries are made in china
That's because the batteries were drained before each charge, Lithium lasts much longer when charged early.
@@johnussss I didn't know that.
Same here in Paccar assembly plant with Makitas !!
This channel is one of the last examples of how CZcams and the internet used to be. Just like the red Makita, your content is a masterclass in craftsmanship and attention to detail in a sea of blatant mediocrity. Thank you for being you
You are welcome!
so what youre saying is this youtube channel is made in japan
hello! My Name is Sweet McFloory and i approve this message!
Old youtube was just a bunch of autists yelling into their cameras. A "sea of blatant mediocrity" is an apt descriptor of how youtube used to be
CZcams is now just mainstream stuff.
It should be noted that the TD172D is the equivalent to the American model number XDT19z, not the XDT16z (the previous model) used. They are different tools, so this is a comparison between the new model vs the previous model.
Thanks for the information, would have been good if he added that in the description because that will make a huge difference if they are not the same model. Saw that he's aware of the issue but doesn't seem to acknowledge it in the description which results in a thumbs down from me.
exactly and you get the point
What's the difference?
@@ecstazyrm the difference is that this video came out more than 15 months before the 19Z was released.
I've got a Made in Japan Panasonic walkman (RQSX-85) I bought back in 2000 saved up from my part time job. This thing is a work of art. The build quality is superb even by today's standard, brushed aircraft grade aluminium. It still works perfectly, even the battery still holds its charge. Just goes to show, the Japanese know how to make things that last.
Thanks for sharing
@@ProjectFarm your welcome 🙂
i drive a 20 year old Toyota I owned it for 12 years still drives like a dream. No wonder they use them on expeditions to the south poles.
Just a little correction: walkman is made by sony not panasonic
@@karolylovasz In some countries, the word "walkman" means portable media player in any Brand , it's just a simple word they use to simplify the meaning.
I bet when he started his channel, he never thought it would have the subscriber count it has. Great channel, and he deserves every one he gets.
Thanks!
Yes indeed ! My brother is the best of the best! I don't exactly remember but I think Ive been Project Farm's Subscriber for almost a decade...I'm not sure. I wonder if CZcams or it would be cool if they have an option to see who is the newest or oldest subscribers of your channel...?
@@phillipcsandoval9094Yeah,thst would be nice. At least it's available as a tool for a channel Admin.
I appreciate that despite being a massive CZcams channel now, you *still* take the time to read and reply to most of your comments. Your attention to detail and methodology is second to none. Success has not gone to your head, and the only thing you've changed is improving your methods over time.
Sorry for the long comment, I just wanted to make sure you know you're a rare asset, and are greatly appreciated. Thanks for doing what you do and not "going Hollywood" as you became a CZcams juggernaut.
I appreciate that!
This guy is like a true Mr Rogers, I have been watching him for years, I didn't even realize he had become so massive! Everything is still so humble, no crazy ads, still credits the music in full screen text, he's even answered one of my own comments once. Hey PROJECT FARM, even though it may ruin you, could you run for president please?
It's just a bunch of canned answers, I bet it's from a bot
@@vapeurdepisse If it is, then good bot. Though how many different ways can you say Thank you to your thousands of commenters, I don't mind canned answers :p
@@vapeurdepisse see, I disagree. I've looked, and while the answers are short and usually just different ways of saying thanks, there's an acknowledgement of suggestions if there's a suggestion in the comment. I don't believe it's a bot, personally, but if I'm wrong, then that's a damn well programmed bot
I have worked in a manufacturing company in Japan.
I can say that the reason why Japan product is so good, is they are very strict about QC.
So if you get all your parts from Japan, all of them will have the same good QC, which will turn into a very good and reliable product. It's a bit expensive though.
I'm Japanese, used to live in China 4 years, and I've been living in US 6 years. I feel that, even the quality of products at dollar store in Japan are better than dollar tree. (of course both products are Made in China) I think it's because Japanese companies are more strict about QC like you mentioned, even if its manufactured in China.
Or shipping cost to US is more expensive.
@@missplainjane3905 I'm an American with Asian heritage who lived in Japan for 3 years. Your questions intrigue me about you. These questions are quite broad and proper response would be quite lengthy. What makes you so curious about relations between these three countries that are quite different in their world stage.
Japan's work culture has always been about perfectionism. It's not necessarily bad but it gets toxic fast.
Again it verifies, Japan keeps all of the best stuffs to themself.
That's pretty much how every manufacturer works in their base country. If they design a product, they never make it quite as good as the ones they ship to other countries.
It has multiple purposes, but the primary is duplication prevention. Sure, just like this video proves you can simply have a buddy ship you something better built from their country, but on paper they believe they are better securing their IP by keeping it "in house". Otherwise what's to stop an American or Chinese company making a duplicate and selling it cheaper?
That's the downsides of outsourcing manufacturing, it produces cheaper less quality products. You can still buy better built products but be ready to pay a premium because different fabrications and working hands aren't cheap.
If he had compared the 2 same exact models yeah , but hell those are not , one is a XDT16Z and the other a TD172D , so after barely 1 minute in the video it is irrelevant already . Take a car for example , a small audi A1 will be fucked by her bigger sister with a bigger engine A 3 in any test , that s pretty much what s happening here and that s freakin hilarious , comparing apples and oranges and driving to conclusions lol , man i hope you work with a better method than that :)
@@christophedohet8877 irrelevant comment, if small audi a1 is made in China and Japan makes the small audi f1 and the audi f1 is better then yes Japanese is better - don't compare bigger with small - The japanese one just don't make out of japan
Of course, Japan knows how to make the best. Only issue is brute force. Us Americans love a hard punch, but that comes at a price. I'll always choose quality over quantity.
Sometimes its unbelievable how professional he is during his testing. Keep up the good work man.
Sometimes his research goes over my head even though I research everything 😄
Makita must just of gotten better because they let the qaulity go down for years. Think they are copying some other brands.
i think he should have compared the same models td172d
Its the only way to build real credibility
Sure but i think the test with both hands wasnt that great, it would be much better to drive in 10 screws and messure the avarage time.
If you have ever been to Japan you will realise that attention to detail and quality is part of their culture not just some six sigma process.
Their city garbage men wear white. They are immaculate and are making a statement of care in their job. A millionaire business man in a rumpled suit gets less respect than an immaculately dressed landscaper who makes $50,000/year.
Almost everything in Japan oozes a quality level and refinement in detail that make things outstanding, often a joy to use. Only Germany is comparable, however loosing it recently.
Thanks for the feedback.
Only issue about Japan is it’s work culture is hellish because of the standards. lmao.
They live by HARAKIRI concept...'' If my product fails i have failed my people and the whole of planet earth, i have to cut myself into 2 pieces for this failure''
Man, you always put so much effort and thought into your comparisons for making them count! It's great!
Thank you very much!
@@ProjectFarm Yeah, for example the falling test, where you made sure the drivers impacted at the same angle - even old commercial testing institutions don't think of details like this, which usually makes many of their tests useless in my opinion, as random impacts give random results.
Btw: I was thinking of a method for measuring the 'vibration', as you meant you didn't have a way for doing this, yet.
My idea is: Use sand in some way (or another sediment). More vibration (heavier and faster) will make the driver dig deeper into sand within a given timespan. Of course it wouldn't be good, to directly expose the driver to sand. Maybe just closing the holes with some duct tape, or putting a stick into sand and putting the driver on top of that stick would be a viable workaround for the exposure problem. Then have the tip fixed onto a vertical slider and make sure the handle doesn't rotate by having it slam against the side wall of the sand container.
Imagine how much tools this guy got just chilling in his garage lol
lol. I give away a lot of tools. I don't have space for them
@@ProjectFarm where are the giveaways?
@@ProjectFarm send some my way!!
Well, he may indeed, but lots of them have been broken or abused :-)
Yeah, he's living the dream, in his cave surrounded by cool tools!
I never knew Makita was made in different countries. I’ve literally never seen a red colored Makita product ever. Thanks for posting this. 🇺🇸
To be clear, blue Makita tools might be made in Japan, China, USA, or elsewhere. Even for a given model number, it might be made in different places over the years. I guess the red ones are made for the Japanese market specifically.
You can get multiple colors in Japan, red, purple, black, even yellow. You can typically find them all day long on eBay.
You are welcome!
Way back in about 1980 I had a Makita cordless that was Orange. The Makita repair shop said they had never seen an orange one.
I also didn't knew Makita made black tools too. I bought a brand new black Makita impact drill from the store and it is made in Romania so they appear to be produced globally.
I purchased my first Makita cordless 9.6V drill in Canada in 1985. After moving to Germany in 1991, I just replaced the charger for 230V operation. The drill is still in use in my workshop on a daily basis. Made in Japan. Parts still readily available. I added a 9.6V saw, hammer drill and other units over the years. Broken switches were replaced. NiCad Batteries lasted an average of 10 years and have now been replaced by NiMh units. These Japan-made Makita units are virtually indestructible.
Impressive!
I notice sellers having these Japanese products and it's crazy how you've done a review on a particular subject like this. You're awesome
Thanks!
Great video! but these are actually completely different drills entirely...The (China made) xdt16 is comparable to the (Japanese made) td171. The Japanese made drill your showing in this video is td172. Which is a more updated model which explains why the outward appearance is different and the internal as well. Just thought I’d clear that up for everyone watching!
Thanks for sharing.
yup the td172 in Japan is now the xdt19z here in the us
This video isn't really a good comparison. It compares an XDT16(DTD171)[China] to an XDT19(DTD172)[Japan] impact driver. 2 different models with 2 different factories.
He should either test the XDT16 C vs J OR XDT19 C vs J.
Japanese hand tools are virtually always better and always more expensive. Awesome video, ProjectFarm!
Great point! Thank you!
I was looking for AvE to drop by. I didn’t even know this was a thing until I saw him do a tear down. Great video project farm!
Also cars. Look at Toyota and Honda
don't forget anime
@@joshyingling AvE did one recently.
The short answer. Yes.
The long answer.
There is clearly no doubt. I love seeing the guts. The internals can't hide much when they are all on the table.
Thanks for watching!
"In my family we say: A naked man has few secrets; a flayed man, none." Roose Bolton
That's pretty metal Ivan.
Cars, audio equipment, tools, everything. Made in Japan whenever is possible.
I sell CB radios, and there's a model that's been made for around 60 years called the Cobra 148GTL. It's been made in quite a few different countries over the years, including America, Japan, Philippines, Thailand and is currently made in China. The Japanese radios made in the 70s-80s are highly sought after and go for the highest prices. You can see the quality go down every time they moved production to a new country. The radios made now in China are terrible quality. They tend to have awful soldering and usually break down within days or weeks of opening the box, but the old Japanese radios from 50 years ago are still going strong and need minimal maintenance.
……you really should qualify that statement…not EVERYTHING…certainly not trucks or automobiles, airplanes or satellites, military weapons including aircraft carriers and submarines…..don’t get me wrong, they/their manufacturing of certain items IS superior; I worked for a joint venture with one half being Japanese and their approach ( called 5S- I can’t say/type the meanings of ea. S)..
Or Made in Germany but it isnt this good, if it is only assembled here in Germany
if you are old enough, you can recall there was a time people ridiculed at japanese products as they do now at chinese. Most people do not understand most of the foreign products are made to the order. You want cheap you get the cheap.
@@baljiangusa It's the same with Samsung from South Korea. I'm old enough to remember when Samsung was a cheap brand, that made poor quality consumer electronics. Roll on forty years and Samsung are known for their premium quality electrical goods. Which is why my fridge, washing machine and microwave are all made by Samsung. My TV is Chinese and it has s ten year burn in guarantee. I choose it over a Samsung as I got a higher spec at a lower price.
Quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten … Always buy Made in Japan versions if there is ever an option, you’ll never regret it.
Thanks for the feedback.
*Agreed. Made in Japan are the best products. Made in Taiwan is great but not superior. Made in China? Never! I'll keep looking for an alternative to that $hit. Cheers!*
since childhood, just reading "Made in Japan" elated me with respect to the kind of world class quality products they made ../\..
Thanks for the feedback.
"Made in Japan" used to be synonymous with cheap junk in the 1950s and 1960s. "Made in Germany" still commands a higher premium in diverse fields such as machine tools, optics and automobiles. Ironically, "Made in Germany" was a label demanded by British manufacturers in the 19th century when the Germans were flooding the market with cheap goods.
@@capmidnite maybe for you lol funnily enough I was going to post that made in Japan or made In USA always brought peace of mind. But German is the best . For me anyways
@@trumpinatoromm5393 Well anymore, USA, Canada, Japan or Germany seems to mean quality
Doc: "No wonder this circuit failed; it says 'Made in Japan'."
Marty: "What do you mean, Doc? All the best stuff is made in Japan."
Doc: "Unbelievable"
In the someday unfortunate reboot, they should replace it with China
Did u know that the mall was named twin pine mall or something but after marty hit one of the trees the name changed in the future?
@@billlewis9740 Doc: "Ronald Regan; the actor?" "And who's vice President, Jerry Louis?"
@@1wasinAlpha Yes when Marty returned to 1985 the mall was Lone Pine Mall. This is because of the pine he hit after leaving the barn in 1955.
Awesome, thanks a lot. Very much appreciate all what you are doing. You are setting a great example. Your channel is one of the best on CZcams. Please continue to do great work
Thanks and you are welcome!
"All the best stuff is made in Japan" (Marty McFly)
Thanks for sharing.
Germany.............
@@Trillion_Dollar_Extreme BMW would have to disagree
Project Farm: Today we'll be testing Makita torque drivers
Driver adapters: 😷🤕☠
Lawnmower: Phew, at last, not me again
Project Farm: We’ll be testing the impact drivers on the lawnmower
Lawnmower: 😿😭☠️
Me, who's never owned an impact driver in my life, watching the red max out the gauge: mmmmmm yes fascinating
Thank you very much!
its worth having a separate impact driver if for no other reason that on a project you don't have to use just a drill and swap out drill bits a and driver bits constantly.
@@BradiKal61 Indeed. Speeds up the work considerably. Sometimes even three is not too much.
I've seen tool comparisons before but this man has it down to a science... Incredibly thorough & informative, thnx.
You are welcome!
I own that exact model of the Japanese impact, for 2 years now. (They also come in a variety of colors). It's my favorite tool. I dropped that thing quite a few times, and it still runs like a champ.
Thanks for sharing.
It seems like everything Japan touch , becomes a very high quality product .....Cars, tools , electronics etc.
Tanaka trimmers are nice. My maruyama blower is a monster
Thanks for the feedback.
Woodworking tools, Silky saws, electronics and the list goes on
True in about everything
I agree but not allways takata airbags is one
Ordering a rare Red Makita from Japan only to drop it on concrete? Now that is dedication.
Thanks!
Rare?
@@vojnikjna30 Seems like it -- searched Makita power tools on Amazon and they only offered the blue ones
@@tomc.5704 Well he "bought it" straight from Japan. Of course it isn't on Amazon.
yeah i cried
Back in the day, the blue Makita power tools were all made in Japan too (I am talking about the 1980s).
I also recall Makita also had the blue / red series within their lineup. And the blue ones were positioned as the premium line while the red ones were cheaper, (but they were not similar to each other). More like the blue (pro) and the red (for home)
Thanks for the feedback.
I do metal roofing and have used dewalt,Milwaukee and always a month in I had to buy new impact so I bought the Japanese makita and still working 5 months later!
That's sad to hear about the Milwaukie. I hope my impact driver is going to last when I get it through the mail.
@@SquadJuiced probably will be fine where running them all day every day a month or more at a time..lol
@@jamiefox8670 Which is the only way to expose a tools limits
@@SquadJuiced Milwaukee makes some powerful tools but in my experience they just don't last very long, especially pushing them to their limitd
Like French say, price will be forgotten, quality stays
Great saying and so true!!
Nissan Renault partnership is a good example eh?
@@fidelcatsro6948 if only we could forget about these manufacturers
If that was true then Hilti would be the biggest tool brand out there. It's expensive but quality wise it's far and above Makita, DeWalt or Milwaukee (not really in the same category but still, price matters).
@@michaelmay5453 price, quality, service, choose two, you can't win on all three.
"All the best stuff is made in Japan" -Marty McFly
Yes, I love their chocolate-covered grasshoppers!
Thanks for the feedback.
@Mad Anthony Wayne I always liked that truck.
@Mad Anthony Wayne biff just put on the 40th coat of wax, after watching a project farm wax test
@@ezg8448 Even better than the English "Crunchy Frog"?
I feel like he is doing the best and most trusted tests ever seen on CZcams.
Thank you for the accurate results!
You are welcome!
I have been following Project Farm since Day one and no doubt the best CZcams channel in my opinion!! Real reviews with proof!! Love it!
Thanks!
We purchased an Japan made Iron 30 years ago and my age is 24, so actually my parents bought this and even after using it for 30 years it still works like new.
Fantastic! Thanks for sharing.
@@ProjectFarm thanks for making good content. Keep up the good work 👍
Have you heard of "survivor bias?"
What's the brand of the iron?
Let's be honest, no one was surprised by the results, Japan is on another level compared to the rest of the world. Great video as always.
😭😭😭, true. We all knew it.
Will take Made in Japan all day long but there are some super quality manufacturers in the US and Germany that have somehow survived globalism.
Thank you very much!
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Take a metabo angle grinder and put it against anything made in japan or any other place in the world, it will wipe the floor with it.
@@megarafjogos It's too damn expensive for what you get though. I'd take the industry standard US made rat tail Makita grinder any day.
The red may be a little better, but the blue still seems to do the job just fine. If we’re talking $100 vs $160, I’d actually happily take the blue. That’s a huge difference. If it was $1000 vs $1060, I’d take the red.
Exactly!!
*Nah. In your example the price delta is still only $60. That's nothing. Cheers!*
@@blackrifle6736 60% more vs 6% more. If I have $1000 to spend, finding an extra 6% is relatively easy. If I only have $100 to spend, an extra 60% is huge.
Absolutely professional analysis....kudos 👏
AVE did a really good teardown video explaining the manufacturing differences and performance
I could be mistaken but I think Project Farm commented on that video
Some savvy entrepreneur in Japan is going to take notice of this!
Great point!
Or maybe a savvy entrepreneur on this side of the pond can manage to get an export license from Japan and import them here with a warranty.
Already happening, there's a lot of these on ebay coming direct from Japan.
It looks like two different designers giving thier version of the wheel.
Or Makita is just gonna start making some of em red......
The XDT16 (blue one) seems to be the oldest TD171D. The TD172D is the newer version. Great review by the way.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
That’s what I noticed as well. Lol great video but a more accurate comparison would be the xdt16 vs td171. 👍🏽 td172 is definitely newer. Lol which explains the outward appearance difference and internal as well. 👍🏽
Yeah he's comparing new and old models so that's where most of the difference is
@@ProjectFarm You should update the video dude. Totally different models. Very misleading.
@@maccoretti common thing here. trying to bash brand as some chinese knockoff..
I’ve been wanting Makita tools for a lot longer than I’ve owned any. My first (new tool Makita) purchase was a cordless drill/driver. With battery. Later I think my next was one I found in a pawn shop which included a battery, soft case and charger, which I bought on impulse because it was cheaper than a battery alone. Skipping passed all the various tools within the brand, I’ll state I think I have 5 drills, and the lowest level of the impact similar to this video. A couple years ago now I discovered a PURPLE one! I couldn’t justify buying it because it made no sense.
But nowadays I have nearly every battery powered Makita tool an electrician might find “required” (also I bought a 1/2” Fakita impact per AVE ‘just because, and it works!!) but watching this video prompted me to investigate what might be a justification for investing in a backup driver. My original was the XTD11, and seeing now there may well be a solid reason, I just ordered the XTD16 in PURPLE!
😅❤
I love purple, so it’s twice justifiable:
Favorite color. 😮
Better version😮
Variable speed😅
but my favorite reason is PURPLE😂❤
NOW I have to wait a couple weeks for it arrive from Japan. 😢
I hope the ship doesn’t sink or the economy doesn’t crash before it arrives😢
The RED Makita is a newer model than the standard one tested. The XDT16Z here in Europe is called DTD171 and the RED will be called DTD172 when it comes to our market. It's just a small generational facelift with some minor improvements borrowed from the new XGT 40v line of tools.
Thanks for the feedback.
Same thing i thought good thing I’m not the only one
@@mannyc805 I would say rookie mistake as a tool fanatic, but this is the first mistake I found on my favourite test channel, which is usually flawless in idea and execution: Would really have liked to see a test of the same model, made in Romania, Japan and China, which is often the case with Makita.
@@martinpedersen4886 yes the blue makita in this video is a 2019 released model and the red one is a 2021 release model I’m surprised he didn’t look into it
@@mannyc805 Exactly. Not the high standards we are used to from this channel, but it did make me look forward to buy the DTD172 when it arrives.
Heck yea it’s better!!! I want one now, anything made in Japan is better lol
yeah , just because isn't china, no hate, but im no China fan (of the things the government does)
@@moron_with_a_voron truth
Case in point, my 2013 Lexus ES350 was built in Japan (any Toyota or Lexus built in Japan is always better). Quality Control is unparalleled. Nothing breaks and everything keeps on working.
Great feedback. Thank you
Cool
You sold me , purchased 2 Japanese 40V impact Makita's today ..purple and yellow had to get new battery and charger .... all about keeping up .... great videos ...building a 240 Foot fence with over 1500 screws ... tool will be tested ... 5 stars
Thanks!
I did my research and bought one a little over a year ago. Put it side by side all of the other top Impacts at the time and it's amazing the results of this impact. I'm the younger guy on the job so I got some crap about it obviously, working with older lads but they all got on the band wagon
Thanks for the feedback.
aVe and Project farm need to do a collab! I can't imagine how the combination of PF's politeness and aVe's unique humor would turn out, but I wanna see it!
Nah, that would be the equivalent of the El Camino. Not a great truck and not a great car. I prefer to keep them separate.
Let project farm test and send to Ave for a tear down and destructive testing
AvE bought a Japanese makita but I guess he wasn't paying attention and bought the old 171 instead of the 172. Glad Project Farm got the newer one, but dunno how fair it is comparing an older version and saying the performance difference is because of where it's made.
Would be better to compare the 172 to the new American version whenever they release it.
I bought a purple 172 a while back just to have a cool unique tool. There's a fella in NZ who reviews all the newest makita stuff including the Japanese ones. Tools and Stuff. I might be a bit of a makita fanboy lol.
@@D2O2 I agree with the El Camino idea but disagree completely on that being a bad thing. I would love to see an El Camino in nature AVE / Project Farm collaboration, just not forced.
Nah. This isn't rap video. A collab(oration) doesn't make everything better. Let them do their own things. Whats the next request? A mashup?
Can you do a shop and/or paper towel test? Let’s see just how good that bounty quicker picker upper really is
Viva original cloth ftw! I just moved somewhere and no one local sells it. I am extremely distraught over it lmao.
Thanks for the video idea.
shop towels vs. old rags (t-shirts, socks, denim) vs. paper products (bounty, bargain brand, brown paper)...Which is the quicker thicker picker -upper?
You use the metric system, you gain a new subscriber, keep the good work.
Thanks for watching and subscribing!
Is it really that hard to learn both systems like we Americans do?
@@LBCAndrew yeah it's hard to learn the imperial system, cos i grew up not knowing anything about it, and apart from it the imperial is nonsense
@@LBCAndrew at least you americans don't have to learn nonsense.
Metric is simply better
@@LBCAndrew It's not about easy or hard to learn both systems, but practicality. It is like asking is it really that hard to learn both Japanese and English when you live in the US? Most of us from the rest of the world don't use imperial systems anymore since a few generations back, what is the point of learning it?
Simple, fast, and to the point; what an excellent video format. So many channels would benefit from cutting away the nonsense. 🥳
Thanks!
I'm 70 years old and can remember when "made in Japan" meant low quality junk (except for cameras). Today it's the exact opposite.
Thank you!
"What do you mean, Doc? All the best stuff is made in Japan."
Never heard of it. "Made in Japan" always stood for quality. But i'm from germany.
Maybe its because of your history with japan and some false propaganda back then. Maybe the government tried to keep japanese imports low.
But look around you: Japanese vehicles, cameras, capacitors, tvs, pretty much everything is still working and were always top notch quality.
JDM Cars like Supra or Skyline are labeled as "king of the streets". Look at Canon, Nikon, Sony.. the walkmans, etc.
Indeed it is!
Also back in the 70s all the junk came from Hong Kong!
It was long ago, a bit after ww2. Japan made alternative spare parts for Ford, GMC, etc and bearings. The quality was very poor (like a really bad chinesium made now), however they improve a lot and now are among the best manufacturers. Cheers
It's no secret that Japanese always makes thing better for themself. Even my sister that work at Panasonic said that they have that policy (for use in Japan and for use abroad have different quality).
Japanese always keep the best for themselves. They knew they have very limited resources and they have to keep it that way for survival.
Yeah it does. Because their resources is limited and quality bad they will shame themselves.
You may find that true of China, as well. Products shipped by the ton to foreign destinations are not held to standards imposed by domestic markets. One reason for that disparity is domestic consumer feedback is much more immediate and effective with native management. Exported products rarely have any means to channel direct feedback from foreign consumers.
But there are many ways to get JDM products.
Yes , i think it is also a Japanese work ethic to make things to the best of their ability and or up to a standard rather than a price , and you can also see this in japanese cars , and even more so in times past .
Congratulations buddy you are the only one who explain everything related or concerns to impact tools , you are the best
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Exactly what I was wondering about. Great content
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It's the same thing with Shimano fishing reels. The ones made in Japan are much better than the ones made in China. But it is probably the case with ALL products that are made in both places I'd guess.
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Not in the case of smartphones probably.
Add guitars to the list
Japan's definitely been setting standards for quality in the Asian manufacturing market since the 70s, great reviews as always!
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Yea because they steal alot of technology. Remember when I worked for Ford they came to the plant taking pictures of everything.
@@patmason7276 to bad Ford hasn’t learned anything in the last 30 years. Toyota and Honda quality still kicking their ass
@@patmason7276 it's not stealing if they were permitted to. That sort of thing wouldn't go unnoticed
@@billywill903 Would you say the same thing if it was the chinese that did that?
Thank you so much for such a great & useful video , yóu compared all parts in details which was so helpful , good job 👏
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Please bring to tool sound into the videos. The sounds tell a whole story by themselves, at least to me it does..
I enjoy every single one of your videos. I learn much, from your tests. More than I would have watching anyone else's vids. Keep up the great work that you do, please.
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“This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You use the blue Makita - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You use the red Makita - you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember, all I'm offering is the truth - nothing more.”
great matrix reference. I wonder how many got it.
Best comment right here.
@@123spleege A lot I hope
@@wakkogn9351 Thanks ^,..,^
And down the rabbit hole we go.
Project Farm: Is made in J-a-pan better?
AvE: _Heavy breathing_
came to post this
I came looking for this comment also...
Hahahah
Project dork is over stepping his bounds here
@@Methoverbitches Not really, many people prefer a more professional presentation, more data and less opinion / waffle.
Not saying his opinion isn't valid, it is based on his experience and of course has merit. However; presenting things in this manner provides the opportunity to draw our own conclusions based on what we see, with little bias from the presenter, other than perhaps what he thinks in the conclusion.
TLDR; Both provide great value and service in this area of the internet.
Great videos and test results one of the best on CZcams
Thank you!
I watched about 10 of your videos before I subscribed to your channel the information you give is top notch. I’m just now building my tool collection and I definitely check your videos out before a purchase…. Except this one, already bought the blue one lol.
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I wonder what it would be like if Project Farm and AvE made a collaborative video. I can't even begin to imagine the chaos that would ensue.
AvE has mentioned project farm in his videos before.
I found your fast paced no nonsense way of making this video very enjoyable. Subscribed, thx for this video
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Just a little too enthusiastic for me
@@n17whlronnie92 I understand your comment but as I have seen more of his videos now, I know he is just a very passionate and interested man that wants to give as much info and facts with an extremely fast pace and without any bullshit. I like his style :)
@@IronBalls007 I still subbed to be in the know, in the construction world you have to be
Absolutely agree ! He does the best at presenting exactly the information we need with no useless yammering!!
Quality fishing gears moved production from Japan to other countries some 20 years ago. These Japan made gears still perform beautifully.
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Definitely nice way of reviewing. So I subscribed.
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The XDT16Z is sold in Japan as the td171d. And the improved model is td172d, which has enhanced torque, increased anvil strength, slimmer head, and lighter one-touch bit sleeve. Of particular note are cheap compatible batteries made in China. In many cases, the balance charging circuit and thermistor are omitted, and there are cases where they ignite during charging and cause a fire.
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So this is a comparison between two different models, td171d and td172d. No wonder why the inside looks so different.
As the great Marty McFly said, "All the best stuff is made in Japan" 💪
Except he said Taiwan.
@@davidkeil6225 search on youtube, he said Japan.
Yeah you're right. Mandela effect.
Thanks for sharing.
Will I leave a comment? As your T-shirt says "We're going to test that". Oh, I guess I did leave a comment. Your quality of work and consistency are exceptionally impressive. Thank you so very much for what you do.
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Good to know, I'll have to see if I can get my hands on a Japanese one up here in Canada
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Would definitely like to see more "Made in Japan" comparisons!
Keep up the good work!
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Quality is a big thing. I have a Japanese JVC VCR from 1980 and it still works great. The Chinese ones I have bought over the years have failed a long time ago(mostly from 90's and early 00's).
Will see nuclear polluted water soon if you live in the west coast
@@reocam8918 The west coast has polluted their own waters quite nicely already. Check out the recent DDT discoveries off the coast of CA for an example.
@@dchristo10 then we are fucked twice damnit
Can you maybe Test Japanese and German Tool against each other? Bosch, Festool vs Makita, Ryobi or Hitachi? :)
But if so, only bosch blue (professional)! The green ones will most likey loose against anything thats remotely high quality. Just like you can't compare bosch green with festool.
Ryobi...made in China.
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@@borysnijinski331 there is a Japanese Ryobi not available in the states made by Kyocera. Pretty stout looking stuff.
@@chriswilhelm5256 whats crazy is its made in japan if yeh get in japan. You get it from amazon they normally get you one made in china.
What you see is what you get, very refreshing in todays world, just spent a couple of hrs watching, subscribed.
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A test on different wood working clamps would be cool. Like flex, torque, and some clamps just slip. Harbor freight clamps, bessy, and other brands would be awesome
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Seems like the red one just has higher quality parts and hence is more expensive. It shouldn't make a difference where it's made, the question is why does Makita not sell their best tools outside of Japan?
My guess is that the Japanese tool market just has different pricing economics. Makita is a Japanese brand so it has domestic name recognition that means it can charge a significantly higher price without worrying too much about inevitably being undercut by foreign competition. That "higher quality at a higher price" stance would be a lot harder to maintain in the global market, where consumers are less impressed by the Makita name and tend to look for a different mix of value-per-dollar and quality.
Because the extra care and QC can't meet the demand of chinese made stuff....
Where it's made isn't always a thing, except when made on Japan, where QC is very rigid and workers are held to a higher standard. Why? Because they get paid more.
It's a Japanese thing, they keep the best for themselves. You can see it in their cars too, the Japanese domestic cars have more options than their Australasia and UK models, even they're all RHD.
Because the majority of Japanese consumers are less price sensitive than other countries, they are willing to pay higher price for premium products that last, while in other countries consumers are tend to price compare more.
I remember in the 70's when all the older folks were mad if it was made in Japan.
And a decade or so before that, much of it was JUNK. :-/
They were still mad about WW2. But Japanese stuff was junk until the 60's or so. Their electronics where pretty good and actually more simplistic but still well made, their cars became good in the 80's though along with everything else.
Back then there was the option to buy made in America unlike today.
@@Dollsofgod thank your good olllllll capitalists for that.
Lmfao 🤘
I remember that back in the 1980's; Makita, was the best cordless tool maker, and they were made in Japan only! I still like them as a company, because their innovative approach is top notch... However, the competition has grown stiff with DeWalt making it into the mix, and Milwaukee investing into the cordless world, and for many now a standard to beat! Thank you Project Farm!
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Great channel and test methods.
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Speaking from experience, Japanese people do appreciate quality. And they can't stand that other cultures don't.
Definitely, they are very prideful in their manufacturing prowess and commitment to quality. China could not be more opposite
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@@chrisclifford4109 I'd say the device you're using is proof that that might not be the case.
German people are like minded. Maybe thats why we where and are besties.
@@chrisclifford4109 Chinese manufacturing in 2021 is not the same as it was in 1995 mate. There is a whole spectrum of quality coming out of china these days, from bloody awful to pretty damn good. You are right that they have a long way to go before they match Japanese craftsmanship though.
Breaking News: Project Farm causes huge demand for Japanese Tools. 📈
Lol, Thank you!
Well, Ave also got me into the market for JDM tools, after finding out my new blue Makita drills are trash and the outputbearings left the chat after a couple of weeks.
As an IT field professional who does gigantic projects and maintains an obscene quantity of hand and power tools, I really appreciate this channel, I am only sad that I just found it this week.
I run the brushed DeWalt 20v system (12years), the Bosch 12v system (1.5 years), mostly but not exclusively Knipex hand tools, and Wiha and Milwaukee hand screwdrivers and precision screwdrivers.
I am looking to move to a different 20v system as it’s starting to show its age. I was trying to decide whether to just upgrade to DW brushless or switch to the 18v (same thing as the 20v really) Milwaukee.
Because of your channel, I have changed from leaning DeWalt to leaning Milwaukee.
Thank you so much for all you do, and especially for how you do it!
I’ve seen tons of tool comparison videos that are meaningless. Your videos are legitimate. And I really appreciate you.
Thanks so much!
You‘ve made tons of great content. I really enjoy watching you channel especially those fuel replacement videos on your mower. But as I am a diesel-driver I would like to watch your quality content with some diesel engines. Basically all your previous tests but with a diesel engine. Any chance you can make it happen?
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The Japanese are obssessed with finding perfection. So that really translates to everything they do.
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My Japanese cat says ''We settle only for the Best, if less than that we commit harakiri!!''
Yeah, like eating animals alive, anime, gross sex fetishes and suicides. Tells alot about proud Japanse community! 🎌
Also, the CCP is evil. We shouldn't be giving them money.
Hopefully one day the CCP will collapse so that China can become a free democracy. But in order for that to happen, the west needs to stop giving them money.
Thank you! Wanted an update since AvE
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I'm working as a electrical installation assistant here in Japan, and honestly the blue Makita is all I see! My boss and everyone else we usually meet at construction sites use the "made in China" one which is quite hilarious I think 😆😆
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Another great comparison vid! Thank you sir. You seem to know much about these impact drivers. I dropped my Makita XTD14z and now it doesn't work. No power at all (tried different batteries). Any thoughts what it could be? All wires look to be intact on the controller (black plate right above the battery pins) and on the trigger. No lights when trigger is engaged either. Any hints is appreciated!
This is your 2nd video I've ever watched, with the first video being the 18650 battery test.
Subscribed! I love your video format and testing methods.
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This is a great channel you won't be disappointed.
All that is missing is contact info to your buddy in Japan so we can all order one, too. Lol
Great comparison!
Just search the model number. I bought a purple one a while back just to have a cool unique impact.
I think they only do the different colors when they first get released though.
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Todd, do you have any video comparing brushed and brushless tools of the same brand? IMHO that will be super-useful for your auditorium
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Man, it would be really great if you updated this video to clarify that you’re comparing the new model vs the old model. The “Made in China” XDT16 is the same as the TD171 (whether made in the Chinese or the Japanese plant) and the TD172 is…as one should hopefully presume…the newer model that hasn’t been released here yet. The “Made in Japan” TD171 is absolutely identical to the XDT16. I would know. I’ve been inside of both. The only material difference is that the Japanese battery connection has a fourth (seemingly dummy) terminal for reasons I do not know which also means that half of the hosing is slightly different to accommodate. I
Internally just swapped parts between the two today. Please, for the love of god, there are armchair internet know it all’s using your video to spread misinformation. I would greatly appreciate it if you could help put a stop to their nonsense.
I was also confused.I did some research and found the same thing.Should have scrolled a bit to find your comment.Took me a while to figure out all this.
Once you used the word "misinformation" I knew I didn't like you.
Brandon don't be a moron
@@brandonmcdonald8356 lmao for real
@@bachconneshon7809 He's not wrong, though... The TD172 (in the video) is the equivalent of the XDT19, not the XDT16 used.
if i were an exec at makita america i would be sweating right about now! lol!
With all of the Chinese knock offs available and the fact they sell so well, any threat of US consumers buying JDM Makita tools en masse on eBay will constitute a very small percentage of sales.
Americans aren't gonna start mass ordering japanese Makitas that they can't warranty. And most of the folks who would go out of their way to get a Japanese Makita probably already have.
Also...the 40volt lineup is about to go on sale here, so if all you wanted was more performance? You can walk right into a big box for one of those.
Of course makita makes higher quality stuff for their home market. They build it there, to employ their own citizens, and to sell locally. No one would pay for a makita built in the US because the labor costs would be insane.
That said, PF also compared the newest japanese version to the older American version. It would be more fair to wait for the newer American version to be released.
Makita has a factory in Buford, Georgia where they assemble some corded power tools such as their miter saw, random orbital sander, and other tools. They also have a factory in the United Kingdom where they assemble their track saw and other tools. So they do assemble tools outside of Japan and China and it wouldn't be a stretch for them to assemble some cordless tools in Buford, Georgia even if it's just a drill and driver like what SBD is doing with their Craftsman line.
I don't think they will. They know full well that very few people are willing to pay the extra price for a slightly better product that was made in Japan vs a pretty good one that was made in China.
I don't know if it is still relevant or true today, but when I was a kid in the 80s, my dad told me a story about working with electronics. After he retired from the Marines, he learned how to repair electronics and the place he was working (call it company A) for needed to order X amount of some type of device (sorry, I don't remember what). They ordered these through a supply company (call it company B) out of Japan. When Company B asked what was an acceptable failure rate, Company A said 5% or less. When the shipment came with thousands of the ordered devices, there was a second package that was labeled as defective. When Company A inquired about what this meant, Company B told them that those were the 5% that were going to fail, all the others were guaranteed. Company A asked how they could be sure and Company B's response was that in Japan, all items purchased were expected to work with no failures. They charged Company A full price for the 95% that functioned properly and only materials cost for the devices they said were defective. My dad said they continued to order from Company B from then on out and they could always count on the product to work as designed.
That is awesome. Thanks for sharing! 👍
I believe you'll find your dad was ordering Boogie Woogie Bugle Boys
if they believe "all items purchased were expected to work with no failures", then why they asked "what was an acceptable failure rate" before? why not just kept the failure ones and provide all items with no failures...
@@dionydonny I'm not certain. My father was a man of few words and he wasn't know to stretch the truth so I just believed his story. The only thing I can think of is that perhaps it was a clever marketing ploy to assure future orders. He is gone now and I never thought to question this when I was young. The only reason it even came up was he had a very nice JVC Nivico tuner and matching turn-table that I was always fascinated with as kid. I asked where he got it and he told me "Japan, while I was stationed there". That brought up a conversation about products made in Japan vs the USA.
Reminds me of the movie from the early 80s. I think it was called "Gung Go" with Michael Keaton. That was almost the precise moment when the Japanese auto industry passed the U. S. auto industry. We've been playing catch up ever since.
This reminds me of the time i bought a Japanese polishing compound only for it to blow my mind by how shiny it made my tools that i use it to polish everything
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IM sure you could still warranty it on their website. Def thing Makita could make a jump in the market if they sold their Japan offerings over here. The different color options are really cool and different then anything anyone else is doing. Plus just something zen and nice about Japan culture and product.
Im a mechanical engineer and i learn more from u about testing and quality control
Thank you very much!
@@ProjectFarm very modest reply. I’m an engineer as well and if you’re not an engineer I would be SHOCKED!
@@ProjectFarm all respect ♥️hope to meet u someday sir
@@aliibrahim4807 call me when you come we meet him together i wanna treat him some halal chicken briyani!
@@andrewr2147 nope he isnt.. if he was an engineer, he would be useless to society, you wont see these videos!
He is a MacGyver! Dont forget it was Bicycle mechanics who invented the first flying machine, when engineers and scientists were saying you cant make machines heavier than air fly..
This channel has become one of my Sunday highlights. Tile paint/epoxy would be an interesting comparison video. Especially given the obnoxious amount of prep work.
same here.
Thank you for the video idea!
Makita is both rock solid and soft because of the cushioning it has on the outside. So satisfying to hold
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Got a Japanese 14.4 volt Makita drill, i've had 25 years, and apart from buying a couple of new batteries, it's still going.
Japanese Panasonic, is excellent too.
Thanks for sharing.