Mk 4 Supra Exhaust Comparison!! (Powerhouse racing street torque kit vs s23 tubular kit)
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- čas přidán 24. 09. 2021
- Finally managed to finish the swap over from the log manifold style exhaust setup to the tubular exhaust setup on my toyota supra. As you can tell by the video there is a massive difference in sound! Hope everyone enjoys the video! Let me know if there is anything else you'd like to see about my supra in the comments below!
I got F&F vibes when he showed the clip of the Street Torque manifold
ricer ;)
@@ps.6023 lol
Great video! Definitely going for this kit 💪
thanks for the video report. it was very interesting to see and understand the difference, because I want to order for myself. They say that the turbine reaches its power mode much faster with
This video convinced me to go tubular. Ended up going for the S45 from PHR, cannot wait. Thanks for the upload!
Glad it helped! that was the purpose of the video to directly compare the sounds of the log vs tubular style. Same phone at approximately the same angle and distance only a few days apart. good choice on PHR! Their stuff is quality and Sam is very helpful.
Same!
S45??! GOD DAAAYYM you rich lol
😅 in no way shape or form rich, just worked and saved really hard haha
LIEZ you live in a solid gold mansion with fountains that flow Cristal champane and Louivutton toilets and wipe your ass with gold leaf XD lol
as for actually saving what I earn.... I gotta do that instead of spending my money on gundam, tea pots and other stuff my fiance yells at me about. lol
Bro thank you so much for this video.
I was just asking dusty if he knew anyone who has a video like this. 😊
Haha dustys the man and yea only through messaging a couple people i could find that ran the street torque kit did i find out i had to go to the tubular manifold to get the true supra sound.... no video really showed that A to B difference so i figured id make one to help other people out with that decision!
@@knuckleheadsgarage4627 I’m glad you did. I was going to purchase the street torque Manifold. But after this video I purchased the tubular style manifold instead.
@@vacoombs glad i could help! Theres nothing wrong with the street torqe kit but it just wasnt quite what i was going for.
crazy that Dusty is still around, so glad to know he is. LOL i remember him from the forum days
Tubular manifold sound is insane, truly a game changer for the sound of the 2j. I’m going for the SPF1 manifold
Thats why i did the exhaust comparison! Crazy what a difference it makes and only by messaging owners on instagram was i able to find out i needed the tubular manifold to get the right sound. Good luck with your install!
@@knuckleheadsgarage4627 yep tubular is the way to have a high pitched tone on the 2jz, and the vast majority of people don’t know lol
The true kind of manifolds for the Supra mk4 is the «RPS», super high pitched note due to the thin walled structure, very rare to get and super expensive 4000$+…
@@Itscastlebravo So if I like more a deep sound and rumble then higher pitch in the higher revs I'm guessing I need the opposite then rigth?
@@marioandultrachap if you want a deep sounding ( kinda dull) exhaust tone, get a log manifold
@Carti.2jz yeah I don't think it's dull at all I like the deep bass rumble feel more than the high pitch raspy exhaust. I'd be getting log manifold anyways for more lower end torque anyways but I do like a real bassy rumble exhaust. Like this setup right here.
I love both of them. I have a tubular greddy manifold on mine, but i've always been curious as to how a cast manifold sounds. I'm kind of surprised it sounds exactly the same as my old 1jz vvti cressida did.
REQUEST: Both dyno graphs for the 2 setups. And a driving video talking about and/or demonstrating the different "feels" and "response" between the 2 setups that you changed.
Appreciate the request! The car has been in storage for winter these past few months but she'll be back out soon with winter just about done in my area! Will definitely try to get a in car driving video as well as explain the differences that you are requesting. Will be slightly challenging with not having a proper go-pro and only recording via my cell phone but i'll do my best!
@@knuckleheadsgarage4627 Thank you for the reply. And I look forward to it. 🙂👍🏾
I have a 2J and plan on upgrading to a single turbo, so this information would be very beneficial to me.
Niceeeeeee glad you went with the s23!!
Hopefully you get that power you was hoping for man, see ya soon
Thanks bro! I was happy with the power it was at before but a little more never hurt ;) hahaha im guessing ill lose a bit of torque down low but gain some hp up top, maybe crest 550? Hope ur car is 100% again!
@@knuckleheadsgarage4627 nice 550 sounds about comfortable!!
It’s not lol
Just removed turbo yesterday sending it back, got my refund thank the heavens for PayPal. Turbo was the issue or at least after all tests done that’s the only culprit. Upgrading over winter maybe build the head too
@@ESherbinFox dang sorry to hear that bro! Hope all goes well over winter and she comes back better! Ill be sure to record the dyno session and post the results! What turbo were u running?
@@knuckleheadsgarage4627 I had a hybrid Borg Warner EFR 8370 (8374+7670 mixed). I honestly think it was fine and it could be just in my head lol but I’m just gonna go with a true 8374 that way I don’t question what’s wrong and I’ve seen this turbo WORK!!
@@ESherbinFox nice! What power goals are you aiming for then with the true 8374??
Thanks for the video! Nice car and exhaust! Wow i could not even hear the cams on the phr cast manifold! Im after a stealthy setup for my aristo. Going with 4inch catless downpipe to twin resonators and twin 3" exhausts. Would adding the phr cast manifold make it as quiet as stock? Any bassy style drone?
Saw in your other comments you have a similar turbo. Mines a 6466 with a 0.96 housing. Have you dynoed the car before and after the gsc s1 cams? Hard to decide between the bc 264 cams or the gsc s1 cams.
A part of me is concerned the phr cast manifolds would limit my whp target and would also be a tire fryer since i also have vvti. But im hoping my tuner sorts me out. Only running 93 pump gas. Thoughts?
Any tips appreciated!
Thanks for the comment! apologies for the late reply, I did not have the car dyno'd before the cam's were installed so i couldn't speak to how the cams adjusted the power curve. and depending on your horsepower goals, the cast manifold can handle a good bit. Powerhouse racing's website rates it up to 900 horsepower. I just wanted more of that "raw" 2jz sound so i switched up to the tubular manifold myself. I also run 93 octane pump gas in my supra and i made mid 500's to the wheels with my build and could probably do more, but I'm still running the w58 5-speed and am keeping it held back so i dont grenade the transmission LOL. Good luck with your build!
Thanks for the video! Can you do in car and drive by as well?
Definitely plan on doing that for a future video. Thanks for viewing!
And we still don’t have a true comparison bud. You have gone from the cast to the s23 but also from a 3” stainless to a 4” titanium with completely different silencers and resonators. Impossible to know what the direct sound change is between the manifolds with such a dramatic change on exhaust setup at the same time bud.
I contemplated switching up just the exhaust system with the log style manifold prior to purchasing my s23 setup, but after watching countless videos and talking with several owners they all said the same thing, the tubular manifold gets you the "supra sound" thay everyone thinks of. With the midpipe needing to be modified to accomodate the tomei exhaust, i wasnt able to do a log style with tomei or tubular with apexi for an even closer A to B comparison. This still gets the main point accross give or take that the tubular manifold really gets you the tone of the 2jz.
Just need to video with pulls from inside and outside the Supra.
Ill work on those! Car goes for a full tune on the 20th, after that ill feel more comfortable with full throttling the car for some comparisons.
@@knuckleheadsgarage4627 Ahh of course; dial in for AFRs, Fuel tables and MBT sparking timing according to boost levels first. Just stay away from knock and too lean/rich AFRs. Good luck on the calibration for power. ✌️
@@755hp exactly, the tune has been adjusted for the drivaility aspect from the previous street torque kit from the same tuner i used last time but the full throttle tune is a whole other thing lol. After that, ill be sure to get some in and out of car driving videos for the channel!
Need longer vids
Be happy to make longer vids! Anything in particular youd like to have in these longer videos?
are your downpipes and midpipes stainless steel or also titanium?
Downpipe is 4 inch stainless steel, the whole catback exhaust (which i believe includes the midpipe) is titanium for the tomei expreme Ti system.
We need some new videos!!
I know ive been slacking im sorry! I parked the car at my parents place before going on a vacation 2 months ago and have been crazy busy traveling for work pretty much every nice weekend since. I also broke the car (the plastics in the wheel well) thanks to the car being too low for the shitty PA roads so i gotta fix that and they repaved in front of my parents place and now it bottoms out when trying to leave their driveway so i have to raise the car before i get it back to my place to do more videos 🙃🙃🙃
Nice video! Not exactly a fair comparison though because you also changed to a 4" titanium exhaust too
True, but ive talked with other mk 4 owners that had the same issue with getting the right sound and they said they tried different exhausts and only got the right sound when they switched the manifold out to tubular.
@@knuckleheadsgarage4627 Oh yea, I'm not doubting you. I have tubular manifolds on both of my Supra's but am thinking of going with the PHR street torque kit on my Aristo. Not too worried about the sound since I want the Aristo to stay a sleeper anyway
@@mr2foryou loved the street torque kit, the quick spool of the turbo was ridiculous lol. Literally the only reason i switched out was for the "true 2j" sound. Super jealous here that you have 2 supras hahaha
@@knuckleheadsgarage4627 Well, thanks man. Got my first(97 TT targa 6 speed) in 2009 and bought my second(95 SE N/A hardtop 5 speed) in 2018. Shipped it to Drag International in 2019 and had a full GTE V160 swap/TT brakes done on it and have since done a billet 72mm turbo on a Greddy T88H manifold, AEM Infinity, Radium fuel system, etc. etc. Are you selling the street torque kit?
@@mr2foryou ayyyyeee 95 SE gang here and im not 100% sure what im doin with the street torque kit to be honest, but im actually curious all you had to change out to do the TT brake upgrade, im looking to do that next year. Did you need ti change brake dust shields as well? I got used TT brakes but im not sure if i need to get more parts or not.
What cams are you running?
I'm running GSC stage 1 cams with brian crower single springs and titanium retainers. I also did the shimless bucket conversion.
I heard supra might hit like 250k $ soon
$230k last week! BAT
sell me your old midpipe
Sorry, but I plan on keeping all my spare parts for the car. Its just a PHR 3" midpipe that came with the street torque kit when I purchased it. You can get one from them for a reasonable price: www.powerhouseracing.com/product/6971/phr-3-midpipe-for-1993-1998-mkiv-supra