The Haitian Revolution - The Long Fuse - Extra History - Part 2
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- đ The Haitian Revolution: The Long Fuse - Across the water, the French National Assembly debate a new document, drafted by Marquis de Lafayette, The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen. Little do they know that this document will ignite the fuse leading to the powder keg in Saint-Domingue. Hold on to your fancy Revolutionary hats because things are going to get absolutely buck wild. Alliances will be formed and break within weeks, laws will last about the same time, and while all this chaos is happening, a revolt is forming.
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This period of history seriously needs a flow chart to keep track of all of the alliances that are made and broken and in a really short period of time.
That's what happens in the late 18th century. And if we thought that this century was crazy, well, We all know Bismark and the long 19th century.
@@BlueflameKing1 Immediately followed by Fascism, Communism and the long 20th century
This one might be a lost cause; a two-dimensional chart might look more like a cobweb and a three-dimensional "chart" would probably just look confusing.
Also worth remembering that through this time, the king was still in power. They were not guillotining on masse yet. It was looking like it was going to be a British style parliamentary constitutional monarchy. The republic was near unthinkable at the time.
I would buy such a chart!
"They borrowed from the American Declaration"
All men are created equal*
*TERMS AND CONDITIONS MAY APPLY*
Okay Boomer If You're a Boomer, I donât agree with slavery at all but from what I have found it was that the primary reason for slavery in the US was economical. The first problem with a building a country it getting it off the ground so trying to support it economically makes sense. Sure racism was of course there but saying that it was the exclusive reason would be dishonest. I am not saying the your saying that but what your saying seems to me that you are saying that
@@operleutnant7235 ...what?
@@operleutnant7235 yeah dude, what are you saying? I understand you think you're smart or something, but there isn't a single excuse for slavery, economic gain isn't an excuse for exploitation.
The Pale Plague Doctor âeconomic gain is a reason to limit freedom to one specific minority, and thus all mean really ARE equal under slavery.â Considering the original comment, this is what youâre saying.
Even then, it was only economic because people decided they wanted slavery in the first place. And it was indeed racist or white people wouldâve been enslaved. And Iâd have some amount of forgiveness if it were a form of indentured servitude that you opted into or a slave master that was kind to the slaves, but the first one of those wasnât the case and the other usually wasnât.
@@operleutnant7235 You sound highly Uneducated. Just go stream your video games young fella.
"Those who make peaceful revolution (reform/change) impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK, 1962
"I assert that a little revolution once in a while is a good thing." - credited to Thomas Jefferson
@@stephenwright8824 I mean say what you will about him, he's not wrong.
@@dr.vikyll7466 I don't, revolutions generally ends with either things being worse for the people or causing pointless bloodshed.
@Yolo Swaggins The question is whether or not the "revolters" turn out to be the good guys in the long run. I don't think many of us would want to live in Lenin's Russia or Franco's Spain...
â@@andyjay729 A thing to remember is that most people's political imagination is limited by what they've experienced, which means that after a successful revolution the outcome is likely to closely resemble the situation they revolted against. So Tsarist Russia and it's autocratic regime that depended upon a secret police monitoring the underclass was replaced with Communist Russia with an autocratic regime that depended upon a secret police monitoring the underclass with a few improvements that didn't always last long. One reason that the US' revolution was so successful was because the colonies were already fairly independent and self-regulating.
It's kinda darkly amusing how at least some people that speak of 'All People' clearly had these HUGE mental asterixis next to those words... and were shocked when others heard the words as *All* People, and acted accordingly.
The idea that all homo sapiens is real people is an recent idea, so recent it might be radical in the 18th century.
No its not that the the other side was evil and cruel but that they was not people, nor that they killed lots of our people so we return the favor who was the 20th century version.
If you don't see other people as people it's unfortunately very easy :( .
And its nice that some heard it "all people" and set out to set others free.
Kinda like how the magna carta guaranteed the rights of "freemen", but back then the only freemen were nobles.
Some people believe that the word 'all' or 'universal' is pretty negotiable and that _some_ people are actually _more_ equal than others.
Slaves:âWeâre not even asking to be freed can you please just stop whipping us?â
Big Whites: *âNOâ*
And that is why you don't do racism friends
You think they'd have agreed and found something else to beat them with.
Honestly that doesn't even spund too bad a deal for the Big Whites, like why resist that little bit of change? Wouldn't happy slaves be more productive ones?
@@prestonjones1653 It's not about money or productivity at that point, its about arrogance and pride.
Big whites: hey how about we make a deal in return to not killin us
Slaves: bruh, the ship has sailed long ago * proceed to cut them with machetes
"Revolutionary politics is going to resemble a bagful of cats on espresso."
Quite possibly the best comparison you guys have made in this entire series.
âThis isnât whac-a-mole, itâs sign language with destroyers.â
The ball and chain becoming a bomb and chain with the âlong fuseâ is some great imagery.
AsiniusNaso
Yeah it was captivating to me too
To be honest, I think all the artwork is AMAAAZING
that would be one sick tattoo
@@aninomousflyer1049 Sure, but I think he commented on the creativity for that one particularly
@@ruffusgoodman4137 Ohh, I kind of knew that already. I didnât mean to come on or seem hash and dismissive. đ Iâm Sorry.
"...and broken on the wheel" That line got me. The cruelty. The ingenuity in service to that cruelty. Evil. To imagine my ancestors living with that hanging above their heads...
Evil indeed, it should highlight for all of us their bravery in struggle for freedom they fought for, laying the foundations for the liberation of all.
Humanity can be surprisingly creative and cruel when it comes to punishments and torture.
Yeah, I had to rewind and make sure I heard that right. That's a barbarous punishment by medieval standards.
I imagined this as if it were today. Think. Actual, living, thinking people in your neighborhood, in your community being broken on a wheel as a punishment today. It boggles the mind to imagine entire cities of people going "Yup. This seems acceptable. I'm good with the screams."
The horror without the fog of history is even worse.
What does broken on the wheel mean
This stuff they don't teach us in school. It's to "violent" for them, and yet we learn about people that had slaves.
In case anyone was curious, at 2:15 that says "Am I not your brother?" And I think it's interesting that they used the specifically singular and familiar version of "your" too
Oh yeah they said ton instead of vos
@@malikelshabazz3192 vĂŽtre*
Vos is the plural form vĂŽtre is singular
@@hamzaelyousfi5842 Technically it's votre, not vĂŽtre. The former is the possessive adjective (as in _votre chose - your thing)_ and the latter is the possessive pronoun (as in _cette chose est la vĂŽtre - this thing is yours)._
@@hamzaelyousfi5842 ahh my bad
The fact that everything so far had been the simple part and we've got nearly half a dozen factions all after their own goals makes me both excited and worried I should be taking notes.
Wait for the British to support the Grands-Blancs, then abolish the slave trade and support the revolution. It's quite the mind-fuck.
The Haitian revolution is particularly complicated story, not helped by poor records (enslaved and formerly enslaved people left few records due to illiteracy). Every subject they cover has at least s few full books on it but the Haitian revolution has dozens if not hundreds and many questions still linger (again poor records). You could get a Ph.D in the subject and still miss a lot.
@@TheFiresloth spoilers! :P
It makes me wonder if there's a Game of Thrones-like television series about this. We really need more Game of Thrones like tv series about historical events.
7:00 I guess this would be a question for Lies at the end, what's been the hardest series to research due to either a lack of written sources or something more exotic like information being burned? (this also came up in the Akhenaten video.)
Unrelated but the last time you said "all of that stuff before was the simple part" we got a Walpole meme, so this ought to be good.
Wait how was this posted 23 hours ago if this video was uploaded today??????
@@spess4804 It's available earlier for the Patreon supporters.
I throwing my bet in with the Bronze Age Collapse series
@@warrcoww6717 That or the series on Hiawatha.
you are wright the french were so embarraased they hid most of the details cause the were fooled by their own foolishness
1:26, the U before the R in "couleur" is not optional like in english, "couler" is the verb for "to sink", totally unrelated to colors
Ah yes, the sink free people were always ignored.
@@kingpopaul beware the Deep Ones...
Off topic ish, but why is "color" used in American English and "colour" used in British English?
@@kingpopaul more like free people of sink, but then it sounds like people who never do the dishes
The U in colour in English is not optional it's just a regional difference between those in America and those in the rest of the English speaking world
Names to remember for later:
Andre Rigaud
Petion
Dessalines
Boyer
Henri Christophe
Leclerc
Napoleon
Toussaint
Pretty sure that you guys aren't even going to have enough time to dedicate portraits for all of these people.
Alas the doomed leclerc expedition
one small issue is the mention of the "goddess of love", haitan vodou is monotheistic, there is only Bondye, who is considered supreme but also unreachable, the loa, while revered and served, are explicitly not gods, the closest concept Christianity has to them would be saints or archangels, who the loa are sometimes synchronized with
so it sounds like a similar syncretism that happened in brazil, where african slaves followed African religions masked as Christianity. but with time they started to mix into their own thing, ubanda.
King Spirits is a description I've heard.
I've heard otherwise, but hey, that's meltingpot for you. Papa Legba sends his regards.
I think the term for what you're describing here is "syncretism."
Orishas?
When a you have a revolution against the most revolutionary country...
Like father like abused son?
The revolution has begun
Uno reverse
no, no, they are having a revolution against the guys having a revolution against the guys having a revolution against the guys having a revolution against the guys having a revolution against the guys having a revolution against the most revolutionary country. try to follow, won't you?
well well well, how the turntables...
Where was this video when I was confused during AP World History? That was so much easier to understand than the textbook explanation, though it's too late to necessarily help my grades, thank you for the amazing video!
2:15 Ne suis-je pas ton frĂšre?
Non, car je suis Walpole.
C'est toujours Walpole.
Sacré Walpole !
There are very few times in history you get to be wholeheartedly on the side of people waving cane knives around... Its nice when they come up.
Which times are those
to there are more times then few, french revolution was easily one of em.
@@heli0s101 Lets see here, we have this time, where a bunch of people had taken steps toward rights multiple times only to have them snatched away with violence once again, and took up arms over it. The french revolution started off fairly justifiable, it quickly spiralled outta control to be fair, and those wern't cane knives, but same spirit... And then your into the long list of slave revolts that didn't go as well as Haiti...
Honestly, if your not enslaved you need some fairly extreme justifications for armed rebellion and wide scale murder, but when it comes to justifications for murdering a bunch of people ,'they enslaved me and my people' is like, a really good one.
Sadly this situation is about to get a whole lot more complex, and the people waving cane knives around are about to star waving them at each other. It's called a Revolution because it was born of revolutionnary ideology, but it was more of a multi-sided decade and a half long civil war.
@@heli0s101 When garbage excuses for human beings hold a man's freedom hostage. When a country built on revolution would deny liberty to their fellow man. Steel your soul cousin, because it may be us taking up our cane knives not too far into the future.
Our maybe you'll be one of those with a cane knife in his treacherous heart before the end. Maybe you made that comment because you don't believe in human revolution. Maybe you're my enemy.
"White colonials utterly refusing to implement moderate reforms" is a common theme in history lol. The reversal too: Moderates refusing to implement nor support reforms.
Our history is awesome! First free black people đđčđđčđđčđđč By the way, we speak a wonderful language as well: Haitian Creole (I teach it on my channel). Anyways, glad you guys decided to narrate our story Iâm such a fun and precise way. Thanks!!!
Mon fĆe
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As a dominican (your neighbor) I agree that this history is amazing, and I really want to learn Haitian creole and French someday so I can understand my fellow islanders, much love from the DR my haitian friend â€
What is so awesome about dead children?
@@0816M3RC Don't be obtuse. He's proud of the fact Haiti freed themselves from slavery and oppression and here you are playing semantics.
Ok, I want this to be the next HBO show.
If they did I'm sure there would be a huge backlash on the internet from those who'll say its SJW/Anti White propaganda or some other drivel.
Also this series should be in French. I wonder if France or Haiti have done a series or a movie on this
@@cisco3111 Well, for once it wouldn't be "blackwashing" history, as it is literally history of the black people
@@cisco3111 That's okay. Whatever rocks their world as long as great content is shared and nobody is hurt âš
I want to see this depicted to but it's gonna immense backlash from the type of people who get offended by "Dear White People." It's too much of a touchy topic, especially in the wrong hands.
That ending reads like an intro to one of the old the old Total War games.
"The slaves picked up their cane knives, and made ready for war."
Highly recoomend listening to Mike Duncan's revolutions podcast on the french revolution while these are being made.
or just listen to his series on the Haitian revolution itself.
It is a fantastic recount that got much further into the detail of this period.
Can we just talk about how badass that last scene is, the blood oath to the goddess of love for freedom, over a fire on a boiling august night, chills
We need a movie
Man speaks sacred words by a campfire in a hot country.
Not exactly a unique occurance.
Sure we can talk about that: go ahead, what do you want to say on the matter?
Could you do an Extra History on how Thailand was never colonized/opium-warred by any of the colonial powers? It's one of only three non-European nations that managed to dodge the bullet entirely - and I get the sense that it was a matter of skill and God-tier diplomacy rather than luck or nobody wanting it (no offense, Japan, Ethiopia).
Important work, providing a historical framework for understanding the validity of various human rights movements. Great job.
The next can't come soon enough. Also, you should do one on the Hussite wars, I love that part of history, and I think a really cool and interesting series could be made out of it!
Ahhh, revolutions....one of the most interesting events in history, along side the world wars.
Eyep
And the religious wars inside the HRE and ancient Greek politics. Its confusing as all hell, but incredibly interesting.
I super appreciate you guys turning the chaos that is this time period in this specific place into a very watchable video this is actually surprisingly easy to follow it is no small feat and shows your prowess at this particular art form all the props in the world to you EC team!
"Let's drink blood in the honor of the Goddess of Love... And now to War, fellow comrades!"
Probably that was the only occasion of mankind history when the blood drinking guys were fighting for a good cause.
True, or rather the others was pre history at least the looser side was.
However drinking blood for the god of war makes more logical sense before an major battle.
@@magnemoe1 I dunno. If you are enslaved and see the suffering of family and friends for generations on end. One could argue to fight for love is appropriate.
â@@magnemoe1 Who's more likely to protect you in war,? Someone who only has love to give or someone who's there just to fight?
*Honour
@@DomenBremecXCVI The key is to get the crazy people on your side and point them at your enemies.
I'm so proud to be related to Marquis de Lafayette
I'm so proud to have graduated from the college named after him.
Im proud to be a descendant of French Huguenots from his part of France.
He's not well liked in France because he betrayed the Jacobins and tried to put the king back on the throne no?
@@KBV1497 Well its a weird relationship, like we recognise he did good, but its like he never really went full revolution so being a moderate is not really well remenbered in France
@@KBV1497 : It's more that the king betrayed the constitutional monarchy, and after this he had cold feet about a total republic.
Great series so far! Iâve been studying the Haitian Revolution more closely as itâs a big reason I exist. My maternal grandfatherâs family were originally grand-blancs (đ awkward...) and petit-blancs who left Haiti during the revolution for Virginia and New Orleans and stayed there once Louisiana was transferred to the US.
Thanks for the disclaimer on inability to cover depth due to time restrictions! It encourages me to do my own research and not to assume I've 'done' this subject and know most of what I should about it.
"Revolutionary Politics, in other words, is about to resemble a bag full of cats on espresso."
This line is the magnum opus of the entire Extra History series.
Who else been waiting for this
I've been refreshing my feed all morning...
yes comrade
Me! My 4th great grandma was an free Haitian of color, and she left Haiti in the middle of the revolution to Jamaica.
Hey papa stalin
Hol up, arenât you supposed to be dead
1:25 It's nice to know they were free to sink.
If this doesn't show us how class always prevails over race, than I don't know what will.
This channel is the reason I'm so into history now...
If you want some specifics on the reforms (who's-who) and how things happened in France, check out oversimplified. They did a French revolution series that was very good!
Dude of course things went nuts. It's the French revolution
Hope that you guys go into abit more detail on Vodun in yhe next video! I know that Ougan, the loa of fire and war, was one spirit deeply associated with the uprising, and not surprised to hear that Erzulie would be as well, considering how absolutely mama bear the loa of love and motherhood can be.
Please do a Philippine revolution series. PLEASE PLEASE. people in the Philippines are slowly forgetting our roots. (colonialism is still here đ©)
Paulo Miguel Perez Yes, second this notion!!
Up my man
Or The Philippine-American War
Actually, the Philippine Revolution and Filipino-American war is inter-connected and is a good thing to share.
wala na to...
2:25 "Hold on, that man pulled a Michael Jackson!"
I just started reading "The Effluent Engine" around the time you started putting this out, so your timing was impeccable. By the way, go read the Effluent Engine.
For a very detailed account of the Haitian revolution hit up the Revolutions podcast. They are all pretty good though the Haitian and Mexican Revolutions were the most interesting in the series imo
Excellent work dudes! We really enjoy your work - thank you.
Your videos are the best! Iâve learned so much more from them then during school dedicated history classes or history covered as part of non history classes for context and background such for art, and French courses!
You have a talent (and extreme research skills) needed to tease out narratives that make sense, even from convoluted messes!! Which makes the history come alive!
You probably have an eternity of ideas in mind to cover in future video series, but maybe someday you can look into doing a few ( more? Wendigo and Iroquois were fantastic!) videos on the native Americans vs The US government, in confrontations like Wounded Knee, or the many (many, many) treaties formed and subsequently ignored? The history of natives and whites is long and tangled, and could easily be divided by events ( like big battles, or movements like the ghost dance), or focus by region and describe the conflict with settlers, and retreating march into smaller territories. Their heroâs and chiefs, like Crazy Horse, Red Jacket, and Sitting Bull are other topics to focus on !
Again, just a direction to head in if you ever need inspiration!
Thanks again for all your videos!!
Has gradual abilition ever actually been tried/worked?
jamcdonald120 in Brazil but even they racial issues
Depending on how you slice it, Russia 1861 can be an example.
Britain is probably the best example. They finished paying off their debts a few years ago, iirc. As someone else mentioned, Brazil. Also it happened in Russia, sort of (with the process leading to the freeing of the serfs). There probably are other examples, but those are what I recall at the top of my head.
It worked relatively well in Brazil. We got almost a century to free all the slaves, but we didn't need a civil war or a convoluted revolution, like USA or Haiti.
Also, when the Abolition Law was proclaimed in 1888, only 5% of the black people of Brazil were slaves. The majority was liberated during the 1870 decade.
the process of abolition of slavery in Brazil failed miserably and created the wealth gap and the favelas
Been really excited for this next installment!
âLafayetteâ
*intense listening*
I hope you guys do a full series on the French Revolution someday. This series is a decent primer for it.
Not gonna lie this kinda sound like a race war mixed with a class war
It was
I mean, it's kinda interchangeable in this case.
@@festethephule7553 Not entirely
It sounds like a mix of the American War of Independance and the Civil War to me, with a massive slave revolt thrown into the mix.
@@festethephule7553 Have you been listening at all?
I love these videos so much
Did you guys listen to Mike Duncan's Revolution series, the Haitian Revolution to influence the narrative for this series? Seems at least you guys were using similar sources. Fascinating to say the least. I'm always down for some Haitian Revolution, its such a fascinating topic.
I'm Haitian born and I was actually very impressed with Mike Duncan podcast about the Haitian revolution overall. Although some of his opinions I disagreed with but he did a good job explaining it in depth.
Great stuff i love these types of videos
I knew I was learning history when i was listening to Hamilton all day!
There are way too many great videos about history uploaded this weekend. :)
I love that you strive to present the Haitian Revolution in all of its complexity while acknowledging that it's hard to do in a bunch of short videos. BTW the goddess (or loa, a concept that as I understand is more akin to a spirit) mentioned near the end was Erzulie or EzilĂ Dantor, right?
I think so.
Here from Barbados again but this was anything left than straightforward but hard fought and it had great leadership and a strong strategic advantage.
This was sooooo good!!!!
I recommend Revolutions Podcast, for those who want to learn more. He did a series on Haiti.
Great video
You guys should definitely make one or more episodes on the Peaky Blinders, a real historical gang in England of which the show is based on.
A brilliant insight into rebellion.
1:25 it's "Gens de Couleur Libres"
I knew OJ was an amazing football player but i never knew he freed the slaves in haiti.
Elsneakakaze I heard he was acquitted
He was good at stabbing people
"A bag full of cats on espresso" Hahaha that's definitely a mental image I will never get out of my head now
Wow, I just watched part 1 moments ago!
I love binging these
it is a good thing that you are teaching people this because in Britain we rarely learn this in history
Can you do some episodes of the Russian revolution
you have to be a patreon to influence the theme of the episodes
Democracy needs money!
I'd love an comprehensive on the civil war tbh. I don't trust many anarchists or Leninists to be completely honest or objective when it comes to the souring of relationships
Haven't they already?
you have to pay them to do the episode you want
4:56
Yes they did and they got decorated because most of them survived. For the american people, it was a helping hand from the big whites french in the colony
"Maronnage" is a great side of this particular section but left out. Slaves started to escape plantations in a way that would become noticeable.
That was a big gesture of rebellion and a big step to freedom.
But this is great stuff. The political process is well covered.
After you can do acadian deportation please ?
And cool vidéo i love the série
LOVING this!
For freedom, dignity, respect, courage, admiration, decipline, and determination
I stayed awake at 2:30 AM specifically to watch this at it's release
Revolutions Podcast for anyone looking for a more in depth overview of the Haitian Revolution. The details are fascinating
2:40 France and Hai--sorry, forgot it was still Saint-Domingue at this point--look like puzzle pieces.
Hello I love your videos. Can you please do the boer wars. Iâd love to see it
Beautiful
Bravissimo, guys. Luv ya.
Voodoos have ONE god. The rest are Loa (spirits).
And while we're on the subject, didn't they kick this off with a sacrifice to Ogun, the Loa of war, rather than the Loa of love? Just curious.
@@oceanberserker as stated in the video, these events are mostly apocryphal, so I wouldn't be surprised if both versions of the story exist.
@@Fellknauel Fair point. Although, logically speaking, it would make more sense to call on a spirit of war and conflict for good fortune in violent workings. Unless of course, said Loa of love pulled double - shift as a Loa of war.
Ogun is the Loa of war? So the Loa's are the same as the Brazilian Orixas?
@@Ex0dus111 Kinda - sorta. The best way to think of the spirits in the various faiths of the African Diaspora is that they are cousins to one another, if that makes any sense.
2:42 ff Describes perfectly how I feel current political decisions are made.
As well as the delivery of messages, the interior of a carriage might also have provided an illusion of secrecy for the big whites while the driver might have their back to the same plank of wood that a rider had. Perfect eavesdropping location
âToussaint a slave with vision lick back Napoleon battalion and the first Black Republic born Toussaint de thorn to de French Toussaint de Beacon of de Haitian Revolutionâ
0:06 *sounds of "What'd I Miss" in the distance*
OH BOY HERE WE GO
1:26 It's "couleur" not "couler". Couler mean "sink", so you wrote the"free people of sinking" XD
Their right to sink shall not be infringed upon!
'They sent word back to the colony, to prevent word from spreading.' Clever. đ€Šđđ
Guys. Can you make an episode about the war of Arauco? Ia a really good topic and is one of the few times my country appears in old history
Please do the French Revolution itself. You mention it here being a driver of thigns happening in Haiti.
They need more than 6 episodes for that dumpster fire.
@@BlueflameKing1 justinaian had 12 bro
Sajah, those series were voted separately.
I think French Revolution could be great anyway.
@@BlueflameKing1 More like "Do we have the next six months free?"
You always have Mike Duncan's 55 episode arc on the french revolution on his podcast revolutions
Yess thereâs more
cool vid
That ending was so hard. Long live the revolution!
A 2020 video?! CONGRATS!!!
EVERYONE GIVE IT UP FOR AMERICAâS FAVORITE FIGHTING FRENCH MAN
I was wondering, the guy mentioned at the beginning of the first video, the captured warrior, what happened to him? Is he the rebel leader now?
learn about this in school, pretty interesting
Everyone gangster till the sugar canes start shouting.
I had to pause and look up "broken by the wheel" ouch