Why is Jiu Jitsu Boring?!
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- čas přidán 4. 05. 2024
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Thank you for watching. I like where ADCC is going in terms of rulesets. Let me know what you think!!
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sitting down as soon as fight starts is a dq in my book, atleast put some effort and grip your opponent first
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Unless someone is gonna get slammed or knocked out its just not gonna break into the main stream. Unless its japan. Japan loves grappling.
Good point, There is still a lot of room for improvement though.
the catch is Judo offers most of what you said and it’s declining in popularity participation wise and the value (the money people pay to learn) is peanuts world wide (it’s a ghost town in North America) .. trust me when i say the ibjjf has thought about these things deeply… when i worked on tournaments I learned that
Hobbyists fund almost the entirety of bjj schools and competition including world pan ams etc ( adcc goes on because of Emirates type money ) . White to brown belt and master divisions are chalk full of working people (no money in grappling) and Judo is one of the most injury ridden sports on earth. Those things don’t go well together.. to hold tournaments you need money and participation. Schools need to train the participants so they need money .. entertainment is last on this list. Judo uses government money (Olympic sport) to fund low level participation but it’s affected the sport negatively
You should familiarize yourself with the current problems in judo. That helped me change my mind on this. a good video Is ´judo sucks’ a video by judoka shintaro higashi
Just adding these rules for black belts doesn’t work well because a black belt is tempered by his time at white blue purple etc .. now your asking to entirely new martial arts judo/wrestling it’s gonna suck and pro judo/wrestling tournaments are easily available to watch instead
The last thing Is people seem to not understand what bjj is… it’s a ne waza ( ground focused grappling ) while modern judo is standing focused grappling. This why takedowns aren’t very relavent to scoring and ground work isn’t that important in judo
I think no gi bjj could go more towards the athletic side because of adcc ( submission wrestling) but you need participation money first…
Yeah, judo is by far the most spectator friendly grappling sport and its not hugely popular beyond the olympics. Average ppl wanna see knock outs and slams, its just reality.
I agree with you but don’t get it twisted I’m not asking for a sport that’s just judo and wrestling combined because in reality jiu jitsu is pretty much that. I’m asking for a change in rules for competitive tournaments! Look at what adcc did with the rulesets and how the popularity sky rocketed. There’s a lot of room for improvement in jiu jitsu especially for viewership. That being said I do agree with alot of your points!! It’s true that participation will always make the most money. But jiu jitsu is a fast growing sport that has every single aspect of grappling. Throws, takedowns, submissions, guards etc.
Why not promote the entertainment side of things??
@@jakeyoungathlete first off just know im not against your ideas they're very good. i just want to explain the real thinking behind ibjjf actions but first no gi/adcc submission wrestling
. i actually think much of no gi jiu jitsu will become exactly what your looking for. the ibjjf doesn't have a stranglehold its the adcc that runs no gi. the adcc yearly events are now going world wide. ( i did two in north america last year) ,, but no gi won't ever pass gi in students/competitors with these changes. ruleset changes what i teach in class and how my students roll ( though i cover everything, i won't waste a month on heelhooks in gi class. thats just a week or two here n there)
so as i said last comment the ibjjf won't change the rules because it moves the athletic bar to entry . for gi jiu jitsu in specific adding no guard pulling really has a MASSIVE effect... and to your point you could have a special tournament or just have black belts only do it. the issue is black belts are formed and tempered in white-brown belt tournaments. getting a life long guard pulling to do throws ( basically an entirely new but closely related martial art ) when their a game is guard work and passing in unique positions they get off their favorite sweeps could be really tough. im not against new tournaments though
@@user-vc6 your 💯 right.
@@jakeyoungathlete Thanks for taking the time to hear me out. on what the hidden hurdles are for gi.. .. if it means anything i think your ideas are just as right.. im gonna keep up with your work its very well done
Reason 3 and 4 are also some of the main problems with boxing these days
Exactly. It’s bad for the sport
People don't watch wrestling anymore than they watch jujitsu even Dana White said that So adding wrestling to jujitsu just makes it wrestling and doesn't get it more views come on guy.....
Wrestling is a lot more popular in terms of viewership than jiu jitsu without a doubt.
Jiu jitsu can be more far more entertaining then wrestling if you combine all the aspects of grappling. Takedowns, submissions, scrambles etc, I think at the highest level of jiu jitsu you incorporate these things it will be a lot funnier to watch!
I get what you're saying, but hear me out. It's very unlikely that we can get non-BJJ people interested in the combat sport version of BJJ, at least not on a wide scale. Consider MMA for a moment. The UFC is entertaining to non-combat sports people for 2 reasons: fighter personalities and striking. Most casuals can't stand grappling but bc the UFC is still results-based fundamentally, every fighter does what is effective, i.e. has a good grappling game regardless of how good their striking is. The end of a round will end any grappling exchanges and fighters always start a new round on their feet, limiting how long fighters are in a grappling position, so casuals don't tune out, but b*tch about it anyway. At most, the UFC inspires some new people to learn grappling but it's not the draw by any means. Pure grappling could stand to get more viewership with interesting personalities but ultimately, you'd need to delegitimize the sport entirely to even begin to draw outsiders.
Good video bro!
Thanks. I see what your saying but I still think there is an audience for grappling outside of Bjj people. like a lot of people don’t like the real violent aspect of mma and blood etc grappling can be a less violent option.
Collegiate wrestling is not boring. International wrestling is shit and getting worse with every rule change.
Really? What’s the difference between the two?
Pushout rule was a good change. Jiu-jitsu needs it.
@@jakeyoungathlete If you don't know find out. Then comment from information not lazy ignorance.
@@clayton97330 I disagree. The pushout, and the stall clock de-incentify scoring by actually getting a takedown. Back exposure for things like leg laces where the whole match can end with the "winner" never really having control are making this sport more and more like Greco where no one does anything and the officials are the largest factor. I would like to see wrestlers wrestle to win instead of hoping the officials are on their side.
@finerbiner I've noticed retreating and disengagement by going out if bounds has significantly decreased, that's why I like the push out rule.
I think you could make the same argument for other combat sports in my option. Watching a Floyd Mayweather fight is boring. Most people in general probably find boxing boring. I could also say the same for golf. I like your viewership approach and I agree with what you’re saying to an extent. If each round was promoted in the same way as sumo with hire paying rounds to the athletes that are better ranked and popular then the sponsors would make sure people are watching. Trophies and money for best moves and such would be great as well. But like Royce Gracie said the match is about someone making a mistake and the other opponent recognizing it and moving fast enough to capitalize on it. Thats hard to put a time limit on to create excitement unfortunately.
Awarding points for push outs would also be interesting
I agree
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I think you blame playing the guard a lot and I think the problem is that the top guy only runs and does not participate because he is terrified of passing the guard.
The truth is that because if you know that he has superior wrestling than you and you know that he is going to knock you down, it is absurd to try to do wrestling. As I said before, what makes it boring is that the other person is simply escaping the match.
And it is almost impossible for a casual person who has never done grappling to understand, they just think it looks cool and no longer understand the complexity. Anyone could get excited about some guys hitting each other but with grappling it's different
Most people in jiu jitsu are recreational and don't want their bodies destroyed from being slammed on the ground repeatedly Like me So forcing me to stand up is just going to keep me away from jujitsu so if you want to kick people out of a sport that already has a lack of people let's shoot that direction????
He’s talking about competition rules. If jiujitsu is “recreational” to you, then you shouldn’t be in a competition, they are competitive.🤦♂️
@@Leotag42 You got me there boss! But most people watching jujitsu are recreational and I actually avoid watching some competitions just because it's all stand up And I don't really do competitions but I would watch more competitions if they were actually jiu-jitsu based and not wrestling based!!
@@bryanjohnson8162 if that’s your opinion then your right!
I can’t tell you what you prefer lol 😂
Having more scrambles and more takedowns will not kick people out of the sport believe me.
Thé thing is the amount of people paying to compete and train would go down. Judo exists btw it has everything people seem to want for entertainment.
The ibjjf aren’t idiots increasing entertainment isnt as valuable to bjj as recreational competition- ie blue purple brown master divisions etc etc … i used to think your guys way before I got my bb..
You dont want to fix BJJ being boring. If youndo that, you end up making it more ineffective.