I moved to Thailand and looked at buying a Pick UP Truck for three years before buying three years ago. Mitsubishi, Mazda BT50, Ford Ranger, Nissan, Toyota Hilux, Isuzu are all manufactured in Thailand for the Australian market. I decided on the Toyota Hilux: Quality and build of the Pickup Truck compared to the Ford. The Toyota diesel engine is less complicated than the Ford bi turbo, Ford have issues with the auto box. Toyota reliability is renowned. The large number of Toyota dealers compared to the Ford. Toyota customer service. After three years of ownership of the Toyota Hilux 2.4 diesel, I have had absolutely no issues (no warranty work) and have only changed the oil every 10,000 kms or 6 months from new.
My wife and I have spent the last couple of summers and weekends touring around New Zealand in my XLT.. the Ranger has to be the best purchase we've ever made!👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
I find theres always small subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) advantages given to the Ranger in a number of these Ute review comparisons with the Lux. One of the more glaring examples of this in the video is the fact that the Ford dealership in question somehow "sold out" of all their Standard Rangers and only had an upgraded FX4 in stock for the test. Throughout the video its easier on the eyes to see Fords blacked out Trim, leather seats and upgraded cosmetics as opposed to Toyota's non leather/standard fit out. A comparison with a Toyota Rogue would have been more fair but of course it was overlooked. Would you ever see the other way round where Ford would be in the same situation? Small advantages like this I feel only strengthen the underlying push of these car review sites that have potentially vested interests from Ford. Call me a skeptic or a Toyota Homer but I do feel as though there is a big push by these review companies with an incentive to push the Ranger from Ford. I cant completely blame them though as Toyota has left the door wide open with their more recent lack of innovation and of course DPF issue. Whether you are a Toyota or Ford enthusiast I encourage you to cheer for the "other side" as it only means we as consumers win. Iron sharpens iron and continued innovation and competition from both sides only leads to a better product overall for us consumers. I know Toyota feels the heat and will come back even stronger with their next series so I can't wait.
Well said man. While i personally fancy the Ford, we should aim to have impartial reporting and going back to your FX4 thing, if they really wanted to be neutral, they should have talked about the direct Hilux Comparison for the Ford Ranger FX4 (Rogue) instead of ignoring it. And can't agree any more with the "cheer for the other side" thing, really should be pushing every manufacturer to up their game.
I own ranger wiltrack, my brother owns 2017 TRD Hilux. We both agree Toyota has better build quality and feels more solid. Ranger smoother engine, more features, but feels cheaper.
Good to see the old 2011 based Ranger still takes it in a general setting. Remember that it was the first pick up ute thingo to do 3.5t towing. The first of the big body, car comfort utes. Navara V6 was only thing with more power when the PX came out. Hilux has been behind the ball for ages. Its not bad by any means. But for the price, its behind most of the competition. With that said, ranger better get that rumored Powestroke 3L V6 soon. And the Everest spec rear end would help.
I would suggest you do a 5 years long term review stating: Total cost of service and repairs. Length of time they are off the road being fixed. Then sell them on the open market and calculate the depreciation from the new price. From all that calculate the total ownership cost. That is when you realise that the Toyota Hilux is the winner for your pocket.
Our Ranger is 5 years old. 200k km. Not a single part replaced. Had a longer service interval than the hilux and has cheaper services in South Africa. So even if nothing broke on the Hilux it would have been more expensive
I love the 3.2 5cyl in that Ford. Just something about a 5cyl that always sound so good. Its also well matched with that 6 speed box. Just idles around using all all torque of the engine where I find the 4 cyl ford and Toyota a bit buzzy
Since these vehicles are 4wd perhaps include some testing that is proper 4x4 where 4Low Range is required, not just roads a little harder than the Woolies carpark.
agreed man but from a car sellers perspective, 80% of people buying these are either for work or just for driving around the town in a big car. anybody like i’m assuming you and myself that actually go off road don’t really care what these people say about a stock 4wd off road when my BT50 has probably 1 thing stock left about it hahahah
They have absolutely zero clue how to handle such a real off road situation. They would either damage the vehicle or even get seriously injured or killed.
Almost every owner will spend minimal time off road and far less on challenging tracks so in real terms off road testing is minimal in relation to how people will use these cars. Personally $60,000 to thrash in the bush is only for the quite wealthy, I would buy an old Land cruiser for doing a lot of heavy duty off roading you won't drop a lot of money when you pinstripe it or some minor dents.
From a non biased perspecive I am glad they both exist to promote ambitious development. From a Hilux perspective I must add that you can choose a Ford's oil colour to match your paving in South-Africa.
Would love to see a comparison between the updated Ford 2.0ltr and upcoming releases of the BT50, DMax and Hilux. Loved your review. Think the Hilux/Ranger debate is a little like Apple vs Samsung debate. Both make excellent phones and comes down to eco system. I’ve driven both and my heart loves the Ford. But Toyota’ cheaper price, larger network, more capable off-roader chops and higher resale price sealed the deal for me. Just waiting for the 150kw update and full review of the Hilux in September.
Always been a Hilux man!!!! As a work car I got a Ford Ranger XLT... gutted I didn’t get the SR5. 6 months later I had to hand it back and got a brand new Hilux SR5!!!! SR5 is awesome but I kept missing the Ranger.... it dawned on me... the Ranger is a better Ute!!
The XLS Ranger can be had for under 40 grand and that is a bargain leaving plenty left over for the after market gear and that's what drove me to the Ford.
I have never been bothered about the mulit-media in the car as it goes out of date within a year or two. As long as I can charge the mobile phone up and plug in a USB memory stick with music need nothing else.
Its a shame, I think the 3.2 5 cyl could pump more power with proper tune compared to the 2.0 twins on the market. This is the last time we will see 5 cyl diesel
There is 3.2L XLTs getting around on 35s hitting just over 200kW at the wheels. for how long untill the engine goes who knows but you can get fucking tons of power out of them if you want to spend the money. your comment is unfounded.
I don’t understand your mirror control comment about the ranger, you should not be playing with your mirrors while driving anyway. Better to have the lights control where you can see it and less used stuff out of sight.
As a person who doesn't do ANY serious off-roading, but rather towing trailers, horse-boxes etc (on gravel road yes) I would just love to see how these 2 compare when towing something of about 2 tons to 2.5 tons. Acceleration, overtaking, cruising, fuel consumption, composure etc. Please and thank you.
Biggest concern would be the extra cost to clutch replacement. 2.5 tonnes towed will as you know lessen the clutch life span. Be interested to see the costing of that along with how much time you lose in the garage.
I own a 2016 XLT Ranger which I am more than happy with and have found it to be more than adequate for the purpose . Because I have had such a good run with it and after watching your report I have I have now traded my 2016 in and purchased a 2021 FX4 red Ranger and would have no hesitation in recommending it as a great vehicle' < As a minor comment my previous vehicle was a 200 series Landcruiser and the wife reckons the Ranger is a more comfortable car>
I'd love to see the long term $$ spent on maintaining/repairing both vehicles(not just within 5 years of capped price services and general maintenance) and the number of times each one let the owner down. It would always be Toyota for me, but I'm a typical Toyota fan boy. If for no other reason than Ford (and Holden) have rubbish customer service, I've experienced it first hand. Toyota not so much, easy to get parts for quickly and better customer service from my experience. Saying that I always service my old Toyota myself because I'm a tight arse.
Real good comment considering the DPF issue and stuff all support that cost many people a lot of money getting stuck in the middle of Australia and having to foot the bill because Toyota would not cover anything out side of the car repairs, not the cost to get it towed back or the 2 weeks stuck in Alice Springs and the car was in warranty. All car companies shaft you just the sheep believe the hype and BS of Toyota more. Do yourself a favor and just buy a landcruiser nothing better.
There are less people buying the hilux because there are less people needing them. They are still driving about in there old ones, where the ranger has fell apart. Ask people in the middle east what there driving around the desert when being shot at, i bet its not a ranger. The ranger will never have the credibility of the hilux 💪.
Yes in stock form, but what about longevity? I'd rather the slower, less stressed 3.2 Any day of the week. With a tune and exhaust you're going to have more power than the 2.0 and still running Lower exhaust gas temps and less boost. If you're into towing regularly it's a no brainer.
3.2 anyday :) been around since 2011 and proven to be reliable and stress free engine with regular maintenance. too much data for the 3.2 engine compared to 2.0 4cyl
The ford makes more sense the vast majority of ute owners go off road rarely and even then a 2 wheel drive would probably suffice, so for most of the time the ford is the better option "no Chiropractor needed" also you get more for your money, and in the looks category the ranger looks like a handsome unit, the hi lux more like a chinese try hard.
the are both really sorted utes but in terms of going offroad a ranger you can lift and modify far more than a hilux without serious modifications and although fitting 35 inch tryes on a ranger is illegal you will never be able to do it one a new hilux
So to summarize, if 80% of your time or more will be off road, you'd be mad not to buy the hilux, and if 80% of your time or more will be on road, you would be mad not to buy the Ranger. To that I would also add, that if you are buying as a touring vehicle to tow a van or large boat, you would be mad not to pick the Ranger (more comfortable ride, better tech and cabin, better towing). And some say yeah but the Hilux is unbreakable, and I would say yeah but Ford is built tough and the Cybertruck is bullet proof - Better to look past the silly marketing and focus on the actual vehicles ;-)
Wondering if you could do an all round review on the 2020 Ford ranger wildtrak 2.0l bi-turbo. Looking at getting one but already have the 3.2l 5 cyl 2016 Mazda bt-50. Towing a family caravan is the main reason I am worried about getting the smaller 2.0l engine over the 3.2l
Stick to the bigger engine if towing. Torque is more important than power for towing. The 2.0ltr with twin turbos is putting a lot more stress (hence wear out) on the engine than the 3.2ltr.
I own a Ranger and absolutely love it. The comfort, ride, power is way better than a Hilux. I drive a 2019 2.8ltr Hilux at work and do 1000s of off road and road kms and find it gutless compared to.my Ranger. I am 6ft3 and the Hilux is horrible for comfort compared to the Ranger. The tech on the Ranger leaves the Hilux for dead. The 3.2 Motor rocks
Toyota customer service , reliability and resale even after extra service costs has me Toyota. Both good trucks but more chances of issues from Ford and their dealerships
@@Drivecomau yeah something similar would be great, there's not much info on either when it comes to off road capability and a comparison on build quality would be interesting
Buy whichever ute you like, the Ford or the Toyota. However, we shouldn't even consider a Chinese built vehicle. For consumers the push to lowest possible purchase price may well end in tears.
Yeah after travelling last year me thinks Toyota needs to work on its unbreakable motto. Broken Toyota’s everywhere we went. Rangers and BT’s. Nope. In saying that, I’ve never heard of a vehicle without an issue of some kind.
There is hundreds of thousands of 5 cyl Rangers and BTs getting around without issues. My PX1 3.2 is about to hit 300,000kms and only replaced a clutch so far.
Hilux if all you do is climb insanely steep hills and don't give a fuck about comfort, technology and don't mind outdated stuff and a weaker engine, Ranger for everyone else.
Both great trucks. Good fir what they’re made for which one would I take?? My heart says Ranger but would come down to the dealer and what price he made.
i don't understand why Toyota went from 3litre down to 2.8...shouldn't they have moved up in engine size or at the very least stayed at 3000 instead of going backward's...and why leave it at 4cylinder...don't get me wrong.. i love hilux...that's all i've ever had but...should have gone with at least 4litre 6cylinder...that's my opinion...Toyota Diehard...!
I have never driven any utes so far. But I would like to add some of my experiences with Ford in the comment sections. I have owned Ford Focus 2014 diesel. I must say Ford has the best steering response and driving dynamics compares to all the Japanese and Korean cars (except European car). They are fun to drive and you get sense of control and safety when you sit in the Ford (I don't know why maybe it's me only). It's still going strong even after 284k. Ford is hands down winner until the car is under warranty. But Toyota will give you exceptional Peace of mind after the warranty period is over. All the spare parts of Toyota are Supercheap and Literally any farmers or local mechanic will guide you if anything is wrong in your Toyota ute (I love in country Australia and all you will find over here is land cruiser ute or Hilux ute).....Ford are designed in a way that only Ford can fix it. Verdict: if you have few extra thousands and enjoy driving and wants smiley feeling while driving then buy Ford Ranger. But want peace of mind and concerned more about wallet then go with Toyota hilux.
Ford Ranger is more refined in most ways than the Toyota Hilux. You have to drive both for a while to understand how Toyota remained to not update the Hilux with what Ford is equipping in the Ranger like a more smoother suspension, great handling, and a plethora of features that even the Top of the line Hilux will make you feel like it's a base model Ranger. Durability wise, regardless of what people are saying that the Hilux will be better in the long run, I've seen and driven a 500,000km mileage 2016 Ranger Wildtrak and it drives great just like a brand new one and the owner told me he never had major problems along the ownership of the ute. Anyway, for me, the Ford Ranger is the most bang for your buck ute than the Hilux.
The Ranger didn’t last in Australia desert mine sites. After 6 months they fell apart. I guess in the future Toyota Hilux sale volume will go up and beat Ranger now that miners will never get Ranger again.
See how these Utes go in our 2021 4x4 Dual Cab Ute Off-Road Mega Test: czcams.com/video/wxy4jBnKMX4/video.html
I like the Ranger, my heart says Ranger, while my brain says Hilux.
Use your brain.
Hahhaha, same here....toyota has integrity for low maintenance cost.
@@johntheaccountant5594 said no man ever
Super same but by brain say ranger heart say hilux
@@johntheaccountant5594 hahahahaha true
I moved to Thailand and looked at buying a Pick UP Truck for three years before buying three years ago.
Mitsubishi, Mazda BT50, Ford Ranger, Nissan, Toyota Hilux, Isuzu are all manufactured in Thailand for the Australian market.
I decided on the Toyota Hilux:
Quality and build of the Pickup Truck compared to the Ford.
The Toyota diesel engine is less complicated than the Ford bi turbo,
Ford have issues with the auto box.
Toyota reliability is renowned.
The large number of Toyota dealers compared to the Ford.
Toyota customer service.
After three years of ownership of the Toyota Hilux 2.4 diesel, I have had absolutely no issues (no warranty work) and have only changed the oil every 10,000 kms or 6 months from new.
My wife and I have spent the last couple of summers and weekends touring around New Zealand in my XLT.. the Ranger has to be the best purchase we've ever made!👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
I brought my Ranger new in 2015 and it’s still like the day I brought it, and it’s never let me down .
I find theres always small subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) advantages given to the Ranger in a number of these Ute review comparisons with the Lux. One of the more glaring examples of this in the video is the fact that the Ford dealership in question somehow "sold out" of all their Standard Rangers and only had an upgraded FX4 in stock for the test. Throughout the video its easier on the eyes to see Fords blacked out Trim, leather seats and upgraded cosmetics as opposed to Toyota's non leather/standard fit out. A comparison with a Toyota Rogue would have been more fair but of course it was overlooked. Would you ever see the other way round where Ford would be in the same situation?
Small advantages like this I feel only strengthen the underlying push of these car review sites that have potentially vested interests from Ford.
Call me a skeptic or a Toyota Homer but I do feel as though there is a big push by these review companies with an incentive to push the Ranger from Ford. I cant completely blame them though as Toyota has left the door wide open with their more recent lack of innovation and of course DPF issue.
Whether you are a Toyota or Ford enthusiast I encourage you to cheer for the "other side" as it only means we as consumers win. Iron sharpens iron and continued innovation and competition from both sides only leads to a better product overall for us consumers. I know Toyota feels the heat and will come back even stronger with their next series so I can't wait.
Well said man. While i personally fancy the Ford, we should aim to have impartial reporting and going back to your FX4 thing, if they really wanted to be neutral, they should have talked about the direct Hilux Comparison for the Ford Ranger FX4 (Rogue) instead of ignoring it. And can't agree any more with the "cheer for the other side" thing, really should be pushing every manufacturer to up their game.
yeah youre right you are a toyota fanboy
But they are evenly matched. FX = SR5
WILDTRAK = ROGUE
RAPTOR = RUGGED X
I own ranger wiltrack, my brother owns 2017 TRD Hilux.
We both agree Toyota has better build quality and feels more solid. Ranger smoother engine, more features, but feels cheaper.
Good to see the old 2011 based Ranger still takes it in a general setting.
Remember that it was the first pick up ute thingo to do 3.5t towing. The first of the big body, car comfort utes.
Navara V6 was only thing with more power when the PX came out.
Hilux has been behind the ball for ages. Its not bad by any means. But for the price, its behind most of the competition.
With that said, ranger better get that rumored Powestroke 3L V6 soon. And the Everest spec rear end would help.
I would suggest you do a 5 years long term review stating:
Total cost of service and repairs.
Length of time they are off the road being fixed.
Then sell them on the open market and calculate the depreciation from the new price.
From all that calculate the total ownership cost.
That is when you realise that the Toyota Hilux is the winner for your pocket.
U can find that info urself. Don't be lazy
Our Ranger is 5 years old.
200k km.
Not a single part replaced. Had a longer service interval than the hilux and has cheaper services in South Africa.
So even if nothing broke on the Hilux it would have been more expensive
had my ranger for 6 months now still feeling it, best car i have owned
Great review and i think you hit the nail on the head when you said the Ranger is "fun to drive', i have a FX4 BiTurbo 2wd and love it, Fun Fun Fun!!
I love the 3.2 5cyl in that Ford. Just something about a 5cyl that always sound so good. Its also well matched with that 6 speed box. Just idles around using all all torque of the engine where I find the 4 cyl ford and Toyota a bit buzzy
Sounds to me the Ford is missing an extra cylinder
@@Downunderexploring why, the 5 pot goes alright
@@Downunderexploring why, the 5 pot goes alright
Since these vehicles are 4wd perhaps include some testing that is proper 4x4 where 4Low Range is required, not just roads a little harder than the Woolies carpark.
Also driving through a puddle does not constitute handling mud well.
agreed man but from a car sellers perspective, 80% of people buying these are either for work or just for driving around the town in a big car. anybody like i’m assuming you and myself that actually go off road don’t really care what these people say about a stock 4wd off road when my BT50 has probably 1 thing stock left about it hahahah
They have absolutely zero clue how to handle such a real off road situation. They would either damage the vehicle or even get seriously injured or killed.
Almost every owner will spend minimal time off road and far less on challenging tracks so in real terms off road testing is minimal in relation to how people will use these cars. Personally $60,000 to thrash in the bush is only for the quite wealthy, I would buy an old Land cruiser for doing a lot of heavy duty off roading you won't drop a lot of money when you pinstripe it or some minor dents.
@@Sabumnim666 Why bother even buying a 4wd???
From a non biased perspecive I am glad they both exist to promote ambitious development. From a Hilux perspective I must add that you can choose a Ford's oil colour to match your paving in South-Africa.
Would love to see a comparison between the updated Ford 2.0ltr and upcoming releases of the BT50, DMax and Hilux. Loved your review. Think the Hilux/Ranger debate is a little like Apple vs Samsung debate. Both make excellent phones and comes down to eco system. I’ve driven both and my heart loves the Ford. But Toyota’ cheaper price, larger network, more capable off-roader chops and higher resale price sealed the deal for me. Just waiting for the 150kw update and full review of the Hilux in September.
Could you do driving on sandy surfaces like beaches, see how their engines and stock tyres handle a good sandy track.
Always been a Hilux man!!!! As a work car I got a Ford Ranger XLT... gutted I didn’t get the SR5. 6 months later I had to hand it back and got a brand new Hilux SR5!!!! SR5 is awesome but I kept missing the Ranger.... it dawned on me... the Ranger is a better Ute!!
Toyota just has just been upgraded in Thailand, where it is manufactured, and now has 500 Nm of torque and better in car entertainment.
A legend well done very explanatory I just love these reviews and you did it so well and very honestly cheers and have a great day
I liked the video just for the excelent formating, Great job editor!
James is the only reviewer this channel needs
The XLS Ranger can be had for under 40 grand and that is a bargain leaving plenty left over for the after market gear and that's what drove me to the Ford.
Think that’s the way I’ll be going
thats why we just got ours
any issuses on the ford? we know ford is meme-worthy regarding reliability issues but correct me if im wrong
@@cammac66 no sir :) i have the 2017 3.2 liter wildtrak and no issues so far. just regular prevention maintenance. 48k km odo
ROFL at the “DPF issue fixed with a manual purge button”. That ain’t gonna help when it’s permanently stuck in a burn! 🤦♂️
All have problems auto trans on the ford go like the dpf on the hilux lol think 20,000 fords have been recalled for the transmission lol
Toyota have had the dpf issue fixed mid 2018 onwards
@@andrewcumming6988 Fixed but requires a manual button? The onus on the driver and not Toyota?
Andrew Cumming it’s not fixed
@@johnp6640 you wish all hilux have issues with DPF small number of rangers have trans issue lol tosser
My dream car IS a 2020 ford ranger wildtrak, I like the hilex as well 👍, awesom video 👍🤠, greetings from Slovenia 🇸🇮. 🍻.
Thanks for the feedback!
I have never been bothered about the mulit-media in the car as it goes out of date within a year or two.
As long as I can charge the mobile phone up and plug in a USB memory stick with music need nothing else.
Thanks for calling utes✅
Its a shame, I think the 3.2 5 cyl could pump more power with proper tune compared to the 2.0 twins on the market. This is the last time we will see 5 cyl diesel
There is 3.2L XLTs getting around on 35s hitting just over 200kW at the wheels. for how long untill the engine goes who knows but you can get fucking tons of power out of them if you want to spend the money. your comment is unfounded.
@@1989cranston Read his comment again.
I don’t understand your mirror control comment about the ranger, you should not be playing with your mirrors while driving anyway. Better to have the lights control where you can see it and less used stuff out of sight.
I was thinking the same thing. Better to set them before you drive off.
I’ve found the ranger steering wheel also blocks view of the left and right storks if you are unfamiliar with the controls
As a person who doesn't do ANY serious off-roading, but rather towing trailers, horse-boxes etc (on gravel road yes) I would just love to see how these 2 compare when towing something of about 2 tons to 2.5 tons. Acceleration, overtaking, cruising, fuel consumption, composure etc. Please and thank you.
Biggest concern would be the extra cost to clutch replacement. 2.5 tonnes towed will as you know lessen the clutch life span.
Be interested to see the costing of that along with how much time you lose in the garage.
Google recommend this video..
I was not disappoint..
Wonderful Review
I would love to see these same pickups for the next 10 years here in youtube.
Ranger has been in the market for 10 how much you want to see buy a fun pickup rather than ugly boring plasticky Junk toyota
Probally the ranger, The toyota could too but it fliped over trying to dodge a moose lol
I own a 2016 XLT Ranger which I am more than happy with and have found it to be more than adequate for the purpose .
Because I have had such a good run with it and after watching your report I have I have now traded my 2016 in and purchased a 2021 FX4 red Ranger and would have no hesitation in recommending it as a great vehicle'
< As a minor comment my previous vehicle was a 200 series Landcruiser and the wife reckons the Ranger is a more comfortable car>
Is it the 3.2lt 5cylinder?
I am team Ford Ranger forever. Next I prefer Isuzu DMax over the Hilux. Hello from Papua New Guinea!
Thanks for watching! We're looking forward to the new D-Max arriving later this year.
D new madza bt50i is a rebadged isuzu, ive been cheking youtube for actual roadtest, none so far though
I'd love to see the long term $$ spent on maintaining/repairing both vehicles(not just within 5 years of capped price services and general maintenance) and the number of times each one let the owner down. It would always be Toyota for me, but I'm a typical Toyota fan boy. If for no other reason than Ford (and Holden) have rubbish customer service, I've experienced it first hand. Toyota not so much, easy to get parts for quickly and better customer service from my experience. Saying that I always service my old Toyota myself because I'm a tight arse.
Real good comment considering the DPF issue and stuff all support that cost many people a lot of money getting stuck in the middle of Australia and having to foot the bill because Toyota would not cover anything out side of the car repairs, not the cost to get it towed back or the 2 weeks stuck in Alice Springs and the car was in warranty.
All car companies shaft you just the sheep believe the hype and BS of Toyota more. Do yourself a favor and just buy a landcruiser nothing better.
You're a lucky guy, toyota here in costa rica kinda sucks to be honest, we had to wait 2 week for a rav4 cilinder head, and it wasnt that cheap ($400)
Hilux with complimentary DPF Problems Oh what a feeling
There are less people buying the hilux because there are less people needing them. They are still driving about in there old ones, where the ranger has fell apart.
Ask people in the middle east what there driving around the desert when being shot at, i bet its not a ranger. The ranger will never have the credibility of the hilux 💪.
TOYOTA any day!!
Thank you for mentioning Horsepower not only kw.
One day the metric system may even catch on!
@@Drivecomau too bad covid caught up quicker than the metric system
80% unpaved - but feels like 100%. Hence why I'm interested in an off-road orientated vehicle.
Then get a 70series and leave the Rangers and Hiluxs for the hairdressers.
@@craigice9635 I would have bought a 70 series, but its not available in Europe, so I ended up with a Hilux
XLT 3.2 vs Wildtrak 2.0 biturbo..please
In reality the 2.0 Bi Turbo
The 2.0 BiTurbo is the pick after driving both
is there a wildtrak 3.2?
Ford's are shit nare
@@jamesdogg1744 Ford $h*ts on boring Taxi toyota
I love this video for the off-road I will go for Toyota Hilux because it is solid I have 2017 model
Thanks mate. Toyota really needs every cent it can get from loyals like you. The poor things.....
With your Toyota Hilux, you don't need to even think of replacing it until it is 15 years old.
They need to upgrade hilux rear looks
Actually hilux before was a best choice for pick ups but when ford ranger arrived with the nice butt, everyone stunning. Hahaha
The 2.0tt is just far more refined then both of these engines
Yes in stock form, but what about longevity? I'd rather the slower, less stressed 3.2 Any day of the week. With a tune and exhaust you're going to have more power than the 2.0 and still running Lower exhaust gas temps and less boost. If you're into towing regularly it's a no brainer.
2.0 bi-turbo with its transmission problems? No thanks 3.2 all the way
2ltrs 10 speed dying everywhere...no thanks...3.2 all the way
@@Suroyfamilia the transmission problems is a soft ware fix. no big deal. on the other hand 3.2 with holed pistons is a worry.
3.2 anyday :) been around since 2011 and proven to be reliable and stress free engine with regular maintenance. too much data for the 3.2 engine compared to 2.0 4cyl
The ford makes more sense the vast majority of ute owners go off road rarely and even then a 2 wheel drive would probably suffice, so for most of the time the ford is the better option "no Chiropractor needed" also you get more for your money, and in the looks category the ranger looks like a handsome unit, the hi lux more like a chinese try hard.
the are both really sorted utes but in terms of going offroad a ranger you can lift and modify far more than a hilux without serious modifications and although fitting 35 inch tryes on a ranger is illegal you will never be able to do it one a new hilux
You really need to join the Facebook forum for n80 hiluxs, there’s a fair few blokes with 35s, the secret is a grinder
@@andrewcumming6988 yea ive seen those but getting the grinder out can leed to all kinds of mischief
I have owned two hilux and purchased Wildtrack 6 months ago. The Hilux is very slow and sluggish. Ford has more power and better technology.
Very slow and sluggish my ass lmao.
Slow and sluggish ? mate I know now you never ever sat in a hilux
So to summarize, if 80% of your time or more will be off road, you'd be mad not to buy the hilux, and if 80% of your time or more will be on road, you would be mad not to buy the Ranger. To that I would also add, that if you are buying as a touring vehicle to tow a van or large boat, you would be mad not to pick the Ranger (more comfortable ride, better tech and cabin, better towing). And some say yeah but the Hilux is unbreakable, and I would say yeah but Ford is built tough and the Cybertruck is bullet proof - Better to look past the silly marketing and focus on the actual vehicles ;-)
Toyota then.
Toyota stayed with the same old concept too long while other brand kept moving forward.
New Hilux has just been announced for fall 2020.
old is gold
Old reliable better than new unreliable specially for a truck.
The Ranger with the 2.0L diesel would be my choice. I'd add the dealer installed Fox Suspension.
Wondering if you could do an all round review on the 2020 Ford ranger wildtrak 2.0l bi-turbo. Looking at getting one but already have the 3.2l 5 cyl 2016 Mazda bt-50. Towing a family caravan is the main reason I am worried about getting the smaller 2.0l engine over the 3.2l
Me too 👍🏽
Stick to the bigger engine if towing. Torque is more important than power for towing.
The 2.0ltr with twin turbos is putting a lot more stress (hence wear out) on the engine than the 3.2ltr.
Why is the Hilux marked "2.8 D-4D" in Australia and marked as "2.8 GD-6" in South Africa.?
Can you review the 2.0l bi turbo ranger please?
Sure thing - which trim level? XLT or Wildtrack?
XLT Please? Thank you 👍
So I have been on seven different mine sites in the last year and there is only one ute on all of them.
Let me guess the mighty Hilux
Take them out of the overall sales and the ranger is killing them.
@@rossprivate5456 so why don't the mines use the ranger
Great Wall?
@@CT-vm4gf no. There isn't any greatwalls either
Australia ranger more gorgeous than what we have in asia
Then choose the Raptor.
ur rangers are the old courier that we have here
@@andreasschaetze2930 those raptor ranger here with the price of f150 raptor 🙁
@@lennonfuller8445 no, its an xlt plus varian only . I like the supercrew bumper.. Look more stunning
In Thailand you have a big choice and for luxury the Rocco.
Add some of the smaller utes to your next test. Such as Ssangyong Musso Xlv ultimate plus. And the LDV t60
They'll give everyone a run for their money
Ranger is better but after three years the toyota takes over
Uncles 2011 d-max has 660,000km. Still going strong
Very informative, thanks!
Is That windscreen that alters your appearance to a bearded sort extra, ideal for speed cameras and driver identification I would spec that option
The analysis is awesome. Advise on Amaroc VW
Vs ranger please
Great review watching a year later!
I own a Ranger and absolutely love it. The comfort, ride, power is way better than a Hilux. I drive a 2019 2.8ltr Hilux at work and do 1000s of off road and road kms and find it gutless compared to.my Ranger. I am 6ft3 and the Hilux is horrible for comfort compared to the Ranger. The tech on the Ranger leaves the Hilux for dead. The 3.2 Motor rocks
Nice one James!
Toyota customer service , reliability and resale even after extra service costs has me Toyota. Both good trucks but more chances of issues from Ford and their dealerships
That’s strange about the servicing being twice yearly as here in the U.K. it’s yearly or 10k miles/15k kms !
I'd like to see the opposite end of the market, Ssangyong Musso XLV vs LDV T60
Great idea! The budget battle! Any thoughts on the setup, or try a similar approach again?
@@Drivecomau yeah something similar would be great, there's not much info on either when it comes to off road capability and a comparison on build quality would be interesting
Both should be driven directly into the ocean and left there.
Buy whichever ute you like, the Ford or the Toyota. However, we shouldn't even consider a Chinese built vehicle. For consumers the push to lowest possible purchase price may well end in tears.
Is it worth buying a ranger if theres a good chance the engine will go 'bang' without any warning?
Definitely not
Yeah after travelling last year me thinks Toyota needs to work on its unbreakable motto. Broken Toyota’s everywhere we went. Rangers and BT’s. Nope. In saying that, I’ve never heard of a vehicle without an issue of some kind.
There is hundreds of thousands of 5 cyl Rangers and BTs getting around without issues. My PX1 3.2 is about to hit 300,000kms and only replaced a clutch so far.
What a doppy comment, o what a Dpf feeling.
Interesting roll bars....that 70's look!
Toyota has already proven itself for years
Please include the Amarok in a similar comparison test
To be honest I like both of them
James Ward is back? Good stuff, also about time that Car Advice got rid of all the termites that was in the dead wood.
You guys do great comparison tests...
Im also for the ranger... well rounded and quite up to date😁
I thought you did a good review of these and sounded fair with everything you pointed out. Good review.
Ranger for comfort, hilux for real heavy lifting. Thats my take
Should have reviewed the Wild Truck or Ford Ranger Raptor instead of the FX4
XLT has a bi-turbo option also now..Just purchased one.
Nissan Patrol vs Toyota Landcruiser 200 Series Next
79 series****
15:24 ". . . and you need a car that kinda BOUNCE along tracks like this. . . "
We'll, you said the magic word. And most Hilux owners would agree.
True 4×4 lol
pea brained “Unreakable”...no, ‘Unbearable’!!
Loved It!
Thanks!
@@Drivecomau that's A CZcams scammer
I want a HSV Maloo.
And a mullet?
No reach on the steering wheel mate, i’ve got Covid 19.
Cool I love my ranger
Is the tub of a Ford Ranger that small? Why is the data different from the brochure?
I tow my 3.5 tone van with my ranger does it fine better on fuel than my 200 plus use it for work everyday never had a problem with it
Awesome review, just brought a lux
Hilux for work, Ranger for soccer mum
Can a Hilux fit 33s?
Hilux if all you do is climb insanely steep hills and don't give a fuck about comfort, technology and don't mind outdated stuff and a weaker engine, Ranger for everyone else.
Hilux all the way ford rubbish
the most sold pickup trucks in Latin America as well
Both great trucks. Good fir what they’re made for which one would I take?? My heart says Ranger but would come down to the dealer and what price he made.
i don't understand why Toyota went from 3litre down to 2.8...shouldn't they have moved up in engine size or at the very least stayed at 3000 instead of going backward's...and why leave it at 4cylinder...don't get me wrong.. i love hilux...that's all i've ever had but...should have gone with at least 4litre 6cylinder...that's my opinion...Toyota Diehard...!
I hear what you say about the Ranger, but if you gave them both a 2 inch lift, would you still give it to the Hilux???
Cool video! Keep up the good work
I really like his presenting style
Keep up your good work
Noticed in ranger there's a offroad feature in dash settings is this only for 2020 model as cant find it in my 2019 model dash settings?
"Cloth seats make the interior quieter"
Um, ok
soak in sound and vibration may be over other?
@@jimmybe64 like a recording studio sort of
I have never driven any utes so far. But I would like to add some of my experiences with Ford in the comment sections.
I have owned Ford Focus 2014 diesel.
I must say Ford has the best steering response and driving dynamics compares to all the Japanese and Korean cars (except European car). They are fun to drive and you get sense of control and safety when you sit in the Ford (I don't know why maybe it's me only). It's still going strong even after 284k. Ford is hands down winner until the car is under warranty. But Toyota will give you exceptional Peace of mind after the warranty period is over. All the spare parts of Toyota are Supercheap and Literally any farmers or local mechanic will guide you if anything is wrong in your Toyota ute (I love in country Australia and all you will find over here is land cruiser ute or Hilux ute).....Ford are designed in a way that only Ford can fix it.
Verdict: if you have few extra thousands and enjoy driving and wants smiley feeling while driving then buy Ford Ranger.
But want peace of mind and concerned more about wallet then go with Toyota hilux.
Ford ranger better,but compared to Mitsubishi Triton is the best pickup on highway and offroad
what do you reckon has a better stock suspension
Both are beast 💪💪💪💪
Ford ranger
Ford my love ❤️❤️❤️🇰🇷
Ford Ranger is more refined in most ways than the Toyota Hilux. You have to drive both for a while to understand how Toyota remained to not update the Hilux with what Ford is equipping in the Ranger like a more smoother suspension, great handling, and a plethora of features that even the Top of the line Hilux will make you feel like it's a base model Ranger. Durability wise, regardless of what people are saying that the Hilux will be better in the long run, I've seen and driven a 500,000km mileage 2016 Ranger Wildtrak and it drives great just like a brand new one and the owner told me he never had major problems along the ownership of the ute. Anyway, for me, the Ford Ranger is the most bang for your buck ute than the Hilux.
The Ranger didn’t last in Australia desert mine sites. After 6 months they fell apart. I guess in the future Toyota Hilux sale volume will go up and beat Ranger now that miners will never get Ranger again.
Dunno, I’m on construction sites all day and all I see are rangers.
Kind of hard to believe they just fell apart after 6 months
Use some Dmaxs', they are what Toyota was 20 years ago. Reliable and unbreakable
What a knob comment