FORD RANGER 2020 3.2 litre vs 2.0 litre BI-TURBO TOW TEST

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  • čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
  • We compare The Ford Ranger XLT 3.2 Litre 5 Cylinder Single Turbo against the 2.0 Litre 4 Cylinder BI-TURBO towing our LXV 6.2 weighing 3.26 TONNE.
    We give our thoughts and run through a HILL POWER TEST, 0-100 Acceleration Test, Handling & Performance and a bit of fun along the way!
    If you can't decide between 3.2 and 2.0 we give you a comprehensive review to help you make the decision.
    We also test out the Trailparts Credo Wireless Portable Brake Controller, trailparts.com.au/ .
    Massive thank you for Blacklocks Ford in Wodonga for providing the two vehicles.
    Disclaimer: Mountain Trail RV acknowledges that the vehicle technical specifications that have been obtained within this video are to the best of our ability and knowledge at the time of filming. For accuracy of the information, we recommend you to obtain information solely from the manufacturers and do not rely upon us for accuracy of technical specifications. We were not paid to do this comparison by any parties.
    NOTE - the specifications detailed in this video are correct as of MAY 2020. Please consult with your local dealer for more up to date information.
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  • @billroach2393
    @billroach2393 Před 4 lety +215

    This reminds me of what happened in 2000.... I was in the market to upgrade from my old GQ 4.2 (with aftermarket turbo) diesel, into a new GU Patrol. The salesman at the Nissan dealer in Cooma had one of the (then) brand new 3 litre GUs on the lot as a demo. I took it for a drive....it went like stink!!! Much quicker than my old 4.2TD.
    When I got back to his shop I ordered a new GU from him...BUT I ordered the 4.2TD. He tried to talk me out of it; reckoned I was crazy because the 3 litre had more power and torque (on paper) than the new GU factory turbo GU.
    I insisted on the 4.2TD because I was concerned about the LONGEVITY of a 3 litre engine...and I was only towing a 1200kg camper trailer!
    History proved my concerns to be well-founded...the 3 litre was to go on to earn the nickname "GRENADE".
    I can't help feeling this could be a case of Ford repeating history with the 2 litre go-fast bi-turbo.

    • @1989cranston
      @1989cranston Před 4 lety +46

      Obviously engines have come a long way since 2000 but i actually agree with you. i would much rather a detuned higher displacement than a highly strung lower displacement.

    • @daverandall747
      @daverandall747 Před 4 lety +24

      I was told by an employee of a Ford dealership to buy the 3.2 just for the reason you stated above

    • @daverandall747
      @daverandall747 Před 4 lety +2

      @chris beerad Big deal

    • @kevinoh4432
      @kevinoh4432 Před 4 lety +2

      @chris beerad that gq definitely has a piston clearance issue 🤣

    • @user-bv4wv3ci5s
      @user-bv4wv3ci5s Před 4 lety

      Kolb

  • @AleksanderArtun
    @AleksanderArtun Před 3 lety +68

    15:50 The Results

  • @jurgenfreissmuth9375
    @jurgenfreissmuth9375 Před 3 lety +91

    The comparison of durability and maintenance costs after 150 000 km would be interesting

    • @s4060
      @s4060 Před 2 lety

      Just look at car sales…. How many are 350,000kms?

    • @brucehart4627
      @brucehart4627 Před 2 lety +10

      I think Id prefer the 3.2 l for longevity

    • @JimBob-vb8oz
      @JimBob-vb8oz Před 2 lety +13

      Wouldn't trust either of them to reach 150,000 kms honestly

    • @bryaname6644
      @bryaname6644 Před 2 lety +1

      Who keeps a ute beyond 150,000kms

    • @adpar4247
      @adpar4247 Před 2 lety +4

      I have a Amarok 2.0 2013 with 480,000km. Engine intact

  • @PrintShell8765
    @PrintShell8765 Před 4 lety +16

    Very real world testing guys. LOVE IT! Please keep doing more :)

  • @wayneschroeder1253
    @wayneschroeder1253 Před 2 lety +3

    Guys, Thankyou for taking the time to do this comparison. This is truly what we need to see so we can make better choices in purchasing a new vehicle. Love you work !

  • @michaeldearaugo4552
    @michaeldearaugo4552 Před rokem +7

    Just ordered the Bi Turbo and was worried I’d picked the wrong engine but to see the difference on a real experience tow, I’m glad I did. V6 was a 12-18 month wait so we bit the bullet and bought the 2.0.

  • @ivanroux435
    @ivanroux435 Před 4 lety +2

    Excellent crisp footage and awesome test. I did not expect the result! Well done.

  • @jonathancanavan9146
    @jonathancanavan9146 Před 3 lety +3

    One of the best car reviews I have seen. Very informative and detailed. Well done to all involved. More like this please.

  • @kentaylor2950
    @kentaylor2950 Před 3 lety +15

    I'm looking at rangers and will still go with the 3.2L because it's a known factor. They have been quite reliable for 10 years or so whereas I'm not convinced thr 2L will be as reliable. Surely the 2L is much more highly stressed and running near maximum whereas thr 3.2L can be tuned up to gain more power.
    Interesting to see long term results for these engines.

  • @brixsteezy4486
    @brixsteezy4486 Před 4 lety +13

    My father bought a 2.0l ranger wildtrak in march 2019 ,he has been using it daily for heavy loads for like a year now and still it held up pretty good it has about a 65000 kms in its milage and it still runs really smooth,there was this one time that it had to tow an old isuzu dumptruck from narra to brookes point palawan Philippines(yes im a Filipino) it was about 115 km trip and it dint have a problem towing it for about 2hours straight,the wildtrak has good performance and great durability it has gone through a high mountains and rivers to transport rice for local natives has towned alot of other vehicles and all i can say is it held up and still performs well,i feel bad for the ranger getting hate from people,just because the sentence *_there's no replacement for displacement_* is the usual rule americans and other rich countries consider before buying a truck it hurts people like us who hear wrong things about a truck that has good qualities,just from experience i know the ranger wildtrak will last long because if it the engine wasn't durable it could have already exploaded when it was towing trucks but no it dint and it is still alive to this day

    • @martinjudd1284
      @martinjudd1284 Před 4 lety

      Just need to point out that it is not a 2.2L the Biturbo engine is a 2.0L

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 Před 4 lety

      @@martinjudd1284
      Yes. I have a 2.2 automatic [150hp] and it tows 3.5 tons easily, although I bet the 0-100kph time isn't very impressive. Who cares? I don't. What I do care about is the emissions crap that stops the engine from gaining power off idle without a long delay. Pulling out of a junction uphill with 3+ tons behind is a very leisurely business indeed but once it gets going it is fine. Would need low range every time if it was a manual version without a torque convertor.

    • @adamwinterburn2952
      @adamwinterburn2952 Před 2 měsíci

      Palawan is a really nice place. Loved my time in El Nido and other spots. Awesome!

  • @philross1680
    @philross1680 Před 3 lety +27

    I’ve owned my MY19 Ranger BiTurbo for about 18 months now and absolutely love the performance, handling and quietness of the vehicle. My only niggle was a jittery feel and slight lag in the transmission but a recent recall to upgrade the software seems to have fixed this and has made the car feel a lot more smoother and responsive.

    • @Karakaboardriders
      @Karakaboardriders Před rokem +1

      Get at throttle controller. I just got a wildtrak same year same motor and didn't like how laggy the throttle was so put the throttle controller I had in my Px1 super cab into it and wow it's brutally fast and responsive.

  • @sangwoojo1802
    @sangwoojo1802 Před 3 lety +2

    This video quality is really good and the information is helpful to me. Thanks mate.

  • @dhiquobgnaloo
    @dhiquobgnaloo Před 4 lety +129

    Extracting big power from a small capacity engine means it has to work harder which usually make it less reliable in the long run.

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 Před 4 lety +15

      No it doesn't. Engines have been getting more powerful per unit of swept volume for donkey's years and at the same time they have become more reliable, more refined, more economical and needed less servicing. Engines today last longer in general than they ever have. 250,000 miles with nothing but routine maintenance is commonplace, while back in the 1970's if an engine hit 60,000 without having the head off it was unusual and if it lasted 100,000 miles it was the talk of the district, all on 3000 to 5000 mile oil changes. I think the new Ranger has 20,000 mile service intervals.

    • @bengibson3955
      @bengibson3955 Před 4 lety

      Huw Williams damn straight, Huw! Engines with good bearing tolerances, oil supply and tune run on a film of oil. I’ve pulled down my 2 litre Subaru EJ207 which had 60,000km of running at around 280kw and much of that was on a race circuit. Pulled it out to put a bigger, more mental engine in it and the mains and big end bearings are perfect. Cross-hatching is still evident on the bores. These are considered fragile engines with narrow bearings. Way better than my old Clevo which was putting out less power with none of the abuse.

    • @Splits-man
      @Splits-man Před 4 lety +1

      100% correct!

    • @Splits-man
      @Splits-man Před 4 lety +2

      I thought like that too. But, I suggest you take a look at “Auto Expert” latest video. He discusses this exact issue and you might be surprised. Cheers

    • @gigaboat
      @gigaboat Před 3 lety +3

      Aviation is the obvious comparison. Modern Tech makes 4 engine planes extinct except for cargo.. Big power from NEO makes twin engine jets far superior. Good bye old friend 747 I loved you Queen of the sky.

  • @anitatoekoen6915
    @anitatoekoen6915 Před 3 lety +7

    I just LOVE Ford Ranger pickups!! REALLY COOL to own one

  • @dainebatchelor9382
    @dainebatchelor9382 Před 3 lety

    This is by far the best comparison ive seen on youtube. The tests give real figures which make the comparison easy to distinguish. Nothing like a head to head shootout! Cant wait for my new 20.75 bi turbo saber orange wildtrak to arrive in November!!

  • @BedfordGibsons
    @BedfordGibsons Před 3 lety

    Great video. Loved it. Just what I needed to know. Just about to get a Ford ranger and need it to tow a 3.2 tonne caravan. Spot on video addressing all the issues. Even the electronic braking on the van was one of my questions. Thank you

  • @panos8444
    @panos8444 Před 4 lety +32

    Side by side the 2.0L has to work 70% harder than the 3.2L to make the same power, something to consider longevity?

  • @wdstoltz4410
    @wdstoltz4410 Před 4 lety +104

    It is the gearbox that makes the difference... mate the 10speed to a 3.2 and you will have a beast of a union...

    • @hernandovillamarinbuenaven7476
      @hernandovillamarinbuenaven7476 Před 3 lety +6

      Absolutely agree. Not to mention reprogramming ECU.

    • @janbrand931
      @janbrand931 Před 2 lety +13

      You have unfortunatly forgot to measure refs , the 2l must by logic use much higher revolutions to achieve the same results than the 3.2, and therefore will wear much faster and won't hold as long as the 3.2. Thank you. Jan

    • @y4nnickschmitt
      @y4nnickschmitt Před 2 lety +2

      The 3.2 is getting old. I know loosing a cylinder and some displacement is not cool, but the 3.2 has got to go. Its loud, looses all its power up top and also is quite inefficient.
      I´ve tested the 3.2 against our stock 2.2 and the 2.2 comes out on top. And thats testing it with a proper 3,5t trailer.
      I was quite shocked to see that result and assume that its due to the new emission regulations the 3.2 only barely reaches. Mind you that was testing a 2012 2.2 against a 2016 3.2.
      Either way I was disappointed.

    • @Kyxmyx
      @Kyxmyx Před 2 lety +7

      @@y4nnickschmitt You had a different experience. On my part 2.2 is no where near 3.2 when it comes to towing and hauling and loads. Especially on the road. Torque is key

    • @y4nnickschmitt
      @y4nnickschmitt Před 2 lety +1

      @@Kyxmyx I assume the earlier 3.2s where better than what I had for testing. Either way the 3.2 is not a performer. The 3.0 5 cylinder from before was a different story though.

  • @goprob1
    @goprob1 Před 3 lety +1

    Great real world test guys. Well done!

  • @poidash1
    @poidash1 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video. That is exactly the information I was looking for. Thank you 😁👍👍

  • @gregfletcher3358
    @gregfletcher3358 Před 2 lety +28

    You had the 3.2 litre in Drive and the 2.0 litre in S sports mode on the hill climb. Sports mode will change down sooner and hold the gear higher into the rev range compared to Drive mode.

    • @351tgv
      @351tgv Před 2 lety +6

      Exactly and these buffoons have yet to say why they made this monumental f up.

    • @tlevans62
      @tlevans62 Před 2 lety +2

      @@351tgv read their comments, they ran both tests in S mode, it’s just the B roll that shows the transmission in D, but that’s not how they did the test.

  • @melvincaramba2942
    @melvincaramba2942 Před 3 lety +3

    I will Definitely BUY the BI-TURBO Engine for my Granddad and Grandma for touring throughout Land Down Under as a Christmas Gift and for their Golden Wedding too as well. Shalom

  • @joelopic
    @joelopic Před rokem

    Excellent video. Real world test and comparison. That's what people really want. Great work, thank you.

  • @martinkrahge5568
    @martinkrahge5568 Před 3 lety +1

    Outstanding review guys - well done.

  • @krecha1
    @krecha1 Před 4 lety +6

    The ZD30 was revised sometime after 2004 (thereabouts) to address the Grenade issues. It was improved further with the introduction of the Common Rail system.There are increasing reports of these engines doing over 500K without any problems. I believe there are some that are over 600k.
    These vehicles have apparently been looked after like all diesels should be (including installation of engine safety mods and professional - mild to moderate performance enhancements).
    This engine is of course no where near as highly strung as the 2L mentioned here but I guess only time will let us know the outcome.

  • @AjG007
    @AjG007 Před 2 lety +7

    Great comparative test gents. Thank you. The result shows why Ford are most likely ditching the 3.2 litre 5-cilinder engine for the upcoming 3 litre V6. I would love to see this comparative test repeated with the new 3L V6 vs the 2L bi-turbo as I will be buying one in April 2022.

  • @dlandzna
    @dlandzna Před 3 lety

    Real time real review real test comparison. Great test video!

  • @mangoco10
    @mangoco10 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for a very informative real world demo.

  • @Jeffnz020
    @Jeffnz020 Před 4 lety +127

    The 3.2 is asthmatic asf. Ford needs to put the 3l v6 diesel out of the f150 in the ranger and everest. 2l bi turbo will self destruct before 200k if its worked hard.

    • @mohammedjaved4382
      @mohammedjaved4382 Před 4 lety +21

      Yes give us the 3l V6 out of f150 and into a ranger then we can finally annihilate the V6 Amorok

    • @philmja9143
      @philmja9143 Před 4 lety +17

      The 3.2 was programmed by a bunch of fucking ninnies at Ford. Good powerfull engine but the torque is strangled. A re-map will make a huge difference. Most if not all the vids on CZcams that I've watched on re-mapped fast as fuck Rangers its always the 3.2 Wildtrak because once the chains are loose it will go like shit off a shovel.

    • @pbodymathis
      @pbodymathis Před 4 lety +12

      I own a 2015 Ranger Wildtrak here in Thailand and love the performance of it. The only problem is that you cannot really drive it with the traffic and road conditions and I have never had a load on it. Other than that it is very peppy and feels a lot like the 6.0 l diesels I drove in my F 250's in 2004 ish back in Texas.

    • @Patrick-oh7rk
      @Patrick-oh7rk Před 4 lety +2

      I have a 2019 550 amarok.. probably walk its ass over these.. i want to see next wildtrack, raptor and maybe xlt with v6 power to keep up with me

    • @jimmybe64
      @jimmybe64 Před 3 lety +4

      @@vevohoeyo Thailand bro. Where are Fords made?

  • @Shilo-fc3xm
    @Shilo-fc3xm Před 2 lety +5

    Thanks, guys. Liked and subbed. Im in the market next month but have spent the past three months researching and had settled on the 3.2, my [old school] thoughts being engine capacity and importantly that to my understanding a larger engine would not need to work as hard to get there which would equate to long term reliability.
    One month out from my purchase you have completely changed my mind and as of now, I'm going 2ltr and the new tech.
    However:
    Before I write it in stone would you or any other people following along with mechanical experience comment on that long term reliability in terms of my (seemingly faulty) logic that a larger capacity engine will work less hard and therefore wear better over time?
    Thanks so much.
    I had been looking for this information for ages.

  • @donigilobor7721
    @donigilobor7721 Před rokem

    Thank you for this video! Amazing comparison, it provides more information. Thank you again & more power to you guys...🙂👍

  • @johnhuggard1983
    @johnhuggard1983 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks Blacklock Ford for the Utes, and a Big thank you for the video - help make up my mind on the next car, a ford ranger FX4 - Max

  • @lahmyaj
    @lahmyaj Před 3 lety +4

    Great video guys. Been helping the parents decide on a good vehicle for Grey Nomad’ing and the old man really appreciated being able to see this comparison of actual towing. He was in the traditional mindset that capacity matters most (and obviously it does to a fair degree) but I knew Ford wouldn’t bring out such a ‘small’ 2.0L engine unless they knew it was more capable than their old 3.2L and obviously the 10-speed auto plays a huge part here vs. the old 6-speed married to the 3.2L.
    Keep up the good work 👍🏻

  • @jiggooloco408
    @jiggooloco408 Před 4 lety +4

    This is the Best Review Mate👌🙏❤️
    Thanks A Lot. This helps me decide on my Wildtrak Biturbo purchase soon.

  • @KingMarvin
    @KingMarvin Před 4 lety +1

    Wow! This is very informative! It really helps me to decide which engine is best for me. BIG THANKS you all.

    • @raulrrojas
      @raulrrojas Před 3 lety

      I wouldn't trust it that much, these people are probably being paid..

  • @bartrabiej
    @bartrabiej Před 4 lety +2

    Great video! Thanks a lot guys

  • @jobocean4722
    @jobocean4722 Před 4 lety +41

    The 2.0 Litre Bi-Turbo is shifted in Sports mode while the 3.2 Litre Turbo is only in Drive mode. There are a lot of power difference when the vehicle is in Sports and Drive mode

    • @agilelad
      @agilelad Před 4 lety +2

      Very true

    • @Pik000
      @Pik000 Před 4 lety +15

      No difference in power, only how long it holds in a specific gear. When your foot is to the floor it won't make a difference.

    • @jobocean4722
      @jobocean4722 Před 4 lety +5

      But the response of the vehicle depends on the mode you select even if you floor the accelerator, the transmission will not shift to the lowest possible gear if you’re in drive mode and using sports mode enables the car to deliver its full power unlike in drive mode, the car usually prevent the car from using its full power to maintain the economical level. Flooring the your car in sports mode is different from flooring in drive mode.

    • @1989cranston
      @1989cranston Před 4 lety +2

      @@Pik000 there definitely is difference in power. in sports shift it locks the torque converter in most situations where it would be unlocked in normal drive mode and losing sooooo much power to the torque converter fluid coupling. This is one of the main reasons for the sports shift mode. it not only holds the gear but locks the converter.

    • @keithklijnsma7678
      @keithklijnsma7678 Před 4 lety +8

      LOL put a 10 speed auto behind a 3.2 you would get the same results in the hill climb. Nothing to do with power output its all about gearbox ratios.

  • @gijirajin4421
    @gijirajin4421 Před 4 lety +5

    I live my life with 2.2 xl. Worth of buying. Good work horse too

    • @0BuLLeT01
      @0BuLLeT01 Před 4 lety +2

      Just bought one. Waiting for delivery. Very excited!

  • @technogeekengineer
    @technogeekengineer Před 3 lety

    Great vid guys! Very informative. Keep it up!

  • @fireman24fishy
    @fireman24fishy Před 3 lety +1

    Great video guys well done answered all my questions thanks

  • @wernerkruger8450
    @wernerkruger8450 Před 4 lety +4

    Brilliant test. Well done!

  • @nandorherpai8581
    @nandorherpai8581 Před 3 lety +20

    I went to Ford and quickly bought one of the few leftover 3.2L Wildtrak :) People from Ford told me that now everybody wants the 3.2L..

    • @mohdyasin7172
      @mohdyasin7172 Před 3 lety +1

      Mind sharing why? Im curios

    • @jamesrochez-maggs9594
      @jamesrochez-maggs9594 Před 3 lety +6

      Yer because it won’t blow up when you tow 3t with it everyday!

    • @cordellej
      @cordellej Před 3 lety +8

      @@mohdyasin7172 thats because a 2L engine producing alot of power is more stressed than a 3.2L producing the same amount of power. the 3.2L will last longer because the engine is just less stressed . the 2.0 is a 4 piston engine the 3.2 is a 5 piston so stress is spread across 5 pistons rather than 4 so each piston is doing less work hence less wear on the engine. the 3.2 is the better engine what would be amazing is a 3.2 with the 10 speed auto . and the gearbox is the only reason the 2.0 did better in this test it came down to gearing

    •  Před 3 lety +1

      @@cordellej that can not be taken as general rule, engine design has most influence: never forget famous Nissan 3.0 litre "granade" engine

    • @paul.i3606
      @paul.i3606 Před 3 lety +2

      They say that as they are trying to sell the remaining 3.2s

  • @MegaKelias
    @MegaKelias Před 2 lety

    Thanks guys .. great video ... helping me pick my next ranger!

  • @simoncutajar6757
    @simoncutajar6757 Před 4 lety +2

    Another great vid. Really well done. Unexpected result. Would really love to see you do a review of the raptor...maybe towing a small 2T camper. Great work. Keep it up 👌👌

    • @MountainTrailRV
      @MountainTrailRV  Před 4 lety +2

      Simon Cutajar it’s coming, we are keen to get out and about once restrictions are lifted...

  • @grantwells6189
    @grantwells6189 Před 4 lety +9

    Thanks Nick. That is the exact test I was looking for as I will be looking to by a Ranger in the next 12 months.
    Must admit I was only considering the 3.2 as I just thought it would be better for towing.

    • @WCEsuck
      @WCEsuck Před 4 lety +2

      By or buy?

    • @1989cranston
      @1989cranston Před 4 lety +1

      @@WCEsuck okay champion

    • @1989cranston
      @1989cranston Před 4 lety +2

      if you were smart and want even more power, hold on for the 2021 ranger which will have a V6, plenty more power and torque.

    • @ricardoperks396
      @ricardoperks396 Před 3 lety

      Me too. was suprised at the results. I like how they tested going up hills which really is the sealer for me

  • @nev357
    @nev357 Před 4 lety +7

    Having owned both. The 2lt is by far the better ute. No comparison really.

  • @Jianerix
    @Jianerix Před 3 lety

    This is great! Please keep up your reviews. Thanks..

  • @crispinswainstonharrison9042

    This was a great practical review.

  • @TomPembertonFarmLife
    @TomPembertonFarmLife Před 3 lety +20

    Great video guys, wouldn't have thought it would do that ( Dont want to say to much to spoil the results)

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  • @gregreed402
    @gregreed402 Před 4 lety +41

    Things are good when their brand new and technology is also awesome ,but in the end it will tell the truth if you own it long enough

    • @Chris.Mechanic
      @Chris.Mechanic Před 3 lety +1

      that is exactly my concern. In F1 we have 700+ HP from 1.6 or so but millage ;) So yes, 2.0 bi-turbo is stronger etc but will it last as long as 3,.2? I doubt... I drive Kia Sorento 2.5 CRDI 2004. It is 16 yrs old 330+ kkm and engine and gearbox (automatic) works still like a charm. No failures up to now, exept two injectors that needed to be replaced by 160 and 230 kkm. Turbo still without any touch. That's it.
      Will 2.0 bi-turbo makes the same? I really really doubt...

  • @Chris.Mechanic
    @Chris.Mechanic Před 3 lety

    Awesome vid guys!! Great job and pleasure to watch it! My only concern is durability of new bi-turbo motor...

  • @davidtaylor8304
    @davidtaylor8304 Před 3 lety

    Superb. Real-world information by the bucket full. Handsome caravan. I hope you get to see your GoPro again and maybe with a few extra nails in its angle iron mounting thingy next time. Cheers.

  • @joepsaila2837
    @joepsaila2837 Před 4 lety +5

    Thanks guys I’m thinking of buying a ford ranger in the next few months cheers

    • @ronniehill6142
      @ronniehill6142 Před 3 lety

      I have always owned Fords however I love my 2003 Toyota Tacoma better than any American Truck I have ever driven

  • @mthunzidube1423
    @mthunzidube1423 Před 3 lety +5

    thank you, l think l will buy the 3.2 stll, in the padt the 2 litre versions received bad reviews especially regarding reliability

  • @leoesposito8762
    @leoesposito8762 Před 4 lety +1

    Good stuff lads.. great vid 👌 very interesting...

  • @johnegan1623
    @johnegan1623 Před 2 lety +2

    Loved the video guys. Have you towed with a Raptor? I know it is rated for less but the engine size is the same. I guess its the rear suspension that would make the difference - is that correct?

  • @raymann4027
    @raymann4027 Před 3 lety +23

    I tow in S mode in my 3.2 litre Ranger. In your test, you were in D mode in the 3.2 litre compared to the 2 litre in S mode for the same hill climb. This can make a difference to the pulling power of the Ranger

    • @ricardoperks396
      @ricardoperks396 Před 3 lety

      Na it was both in d mode which means drive or S that means second?. seriously I was impressed with their test.

    • @dale8535
      @dale8535 Před 3 lety +2

      ricardo perks s is sports mode it revs gears out more and has better throttle response. Big difference between them 👍

    • @jamesrichardson645
      @jamesrichardson645 Před 2 lety +4

      @@dale8535 the manual also says to tow in Sport.

    • @adamwinterburn2952
      @adamwinterburn2952 Před 2 měsíci

      Sport mode keeps the gearbox cooler too they say,, unless you prefer a hot tranny...

  • @bryanmania888
    @bryanmania888 Před 4 lety +6

    Watching from the Philippines! ^_^ great content very relaxing to watch.
    May i request you do a side by side test again this time the Mitsubishi Triton. Specifically the previous gen (4D56 engine 2.5 liters) versus the latest model facelift (4N15 engine 2.4 liters). Should be also an exciting comparison in power, fuel consumption and general car feel. Thank you very much! Take care guys. Keep safe!

    • @Lcr34
      @Lcr34 Před 4 lety +1

      Mates tuned 2.4 seems to pulls harder than the 2.5 he used to have.

  • @dalemcmartin9201
    @dalemcmartin9201 Před 4 lety +1

    Hey guys, great video. The Ranger is head and shoulders the best dual cab Ute on the market. I’d be very interested to see the supercharged Patrol do the same loop as a comparison. Really like the look of your vans too.

  • @gary8397
    @gary8397 Před 2 lety +1

    Best towing video I have seen a great job guys. I would have brought the 3.2 if I hadn't seen this video. Now I'm not so sure cubic inches are the answer. I have a caravan and I'm looking for a new tow car.

  • @lickwicked7294
    @lickwicked7294 Před 3 lety +7

    That 2.0 litre was already reached its maximum setting performance while the 3.2 litre only show maybe about 50-60 percent performance from factory setting.

    • @andre899
      @andre899 Před 3 lety +2

      yes.... the realiability of the 3.2, especially in this conditions, will be much better than the 2.0

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 Před rokem

      @@andre899
      The main issue with the 2.0 has been failed injectors on early ones and failed wet belts. Both addressed in production. The earlier 2.2 and 3.2 also had the injector issues causing pistons to melt if they failed, plus the failed oil pumps which caused the engines to seize with little warning. I replaced the oil pump in my 2.2 Ranger at 80,000 miles [130,000kms] just in case and I’m keeping it while adding a new model T6.2 2.0 bi-turbo to the fleet in July 2023.

  • @Mambey
    @Mambey Před 4 lety +3

    How's the fuel economy of the supercharged patrol now? Have you done a compare?

  • @user-po9nq5ek9p
    @user-po9nq5ek9p Před 3 lety

    excellent review, thank you very much

  • @TwoHemiViewer
    @TwoHemiViewer Před 3 lety

    What the! A real world genuine informative comparison with a relitively high level of same driving conditions give or take a few percentage points. Well done you blokes. I do wonder the longevity of each engine, the assumption would be the 3.2 litre might last longer however one should never assume.

  • @Grahamrjohnson
    @Grahamrjohnson Před 4 lety +6

    Well done comparison guys.... prob the best I have seen. Shame you cant buy the 10 speed mated to the 3.2.... Only outstanding question is which will last longer ?? A highly stressed 2 litre or a lazy 3.2

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 Před 4 lety

      Look back in history for reliability of older design large displacement or lower power engines in the same vehicle type and you will find increasing levels of reliability and longevity with less routine maintenance and overhauls even as engines get more and more power per unit of swept volume. Better economy too. It makes me think that engine designers of the 20th century must have been taking the customer for a ride.

  • @billgates3452
    @billgates3452 Před 4 lety +22

    Great comparison guys, after owing both and as a diesel mechanic I agree and can hands down say the 2L (and trans) is the better engine in every way that counts. Yes I wish we had a 6 or v8 diesel option but there are advantages and efficiencies by staying small.

    • @MountainTrailRV
      @MountainTrailRV  Před 4 lety +3

      Thanks for the great feedback! We agree!

    • @marcusbarnes5929
      @marcusbarnes5929 Před 10 měsíci

      Tune the 3.2L and it blows the doors off the 2.0L biturbo it's not even in the same ball park.

    • @billgates3452
      @billgates3452 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@marcusbarnes5929 yeah actually you are so right what was everyone thinking. I also agree comparing a tuned and stock engine is a fair comparison. I’ve got a great idea, let’s run down to Ford and buy a new Ranger with the 3.2L, oh wait the dinosaur has been discontinued.
      Definitely in different leagues.

    • @marcusbarnes5929
      @marcusbarnes5929 Před 10 měsíci

      @billgates3452 🤣🥴
      The stock amount of boost in the 2.0L reaching upto 30psi is still alot higher than a tuned 3.2L..
      Adding just a few more pounds of boost in the tune to the 3.2L to make around 22 to 24 psi and its all around superior to the little 2.0L.
      The 3.2L is alot more reliable for towing. The 3.2L is not tuned to 1 inch of its life from factory so has alot of power to make.
      The new 3.0L v6 diesel should be great and tuned quite well from factory ...notice how the 2.0L biturbo is the poverty spec engine in the new rangers.

    • @billgates3452
      @billgates3452 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@marcusbarnes5929 yeah what you said is completely irrelevant, stock vs tuned means nothing. The 2.0L is a new generation engine, it tows much better, it’s faster, better on fuel and so far has been just as reliable if not more than the 3.2L. As soon as the 2.0L was released it was the premium & best option, you had to pay more to get it and they used it in the Raptor, 3.2L was the basic bitch. biturbo now sits below the V6 but 3.2L has been outperformed in every metric and has been deleted.
      I don’t dislike the 3.2l and believe whatever you want, I’m a qualified diesel tech & I’ve owned both and facts are facts.

  • @paulandbiancaadventures3458

    Lovely scenery. Great comparison video.

  • @abdulsultanigy8880
    @abdulsultanigy8880 Před 4 lety +1

    It will be great if you make a video of the ford ranger series verses the Toyota Hilux series. Keep up with the hard work I like how you keep everything professional and entertaining 😀

  • @robkay9227
    @robkay9227 Před 4 lety +3

    Great vid thanks

  • @adharith
    @adharith Před 4 lety +4

    I owned a Wildtrek 2.0 turbo, love it so much.... cool 😎

    • @gruberra
      @gruberra Před 2 lety +2

      Why did you sell it?

  • @faizalkarim9188
    @faizalkarim9188 Před 4 lety +1

    awesome review..well done

  • @gcg2927
    @gcg2927 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you, that’s great
    Can you do an amarok 2.0l/3.0l comparison

  • @Keenok
    @Keenok Před 3 lety +3

    I love my biturbo wildtrak! That being said, coming down mountains I really prefer my 3L chevy. I have to drop 8 gears before the engine starts to slow me down on the 10 speed and I can just feel that the engine has less .. ummph ... than a larger displacement engine for engine braking .

  • @douglasyong6939
    @douglasyong6939 Před 4 lety +12

    Sold my Wildtrak 3.2 after 5 good years of ownership, and now loving my Wildtrak 2.0 Biturbo with a tad more power and less NVH...

  • @peterwest267
    @peterwest267 Před 3 lety +1

    Another very informative video. Thank you

  • @davidcox8943
    @davidcox8943 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for taking the time to provide such a real world test between these two very different engine type vehicles. About a year ago I was shopping for a replacement tow vehicle and decided on a Ford Everest as we wanted a wagon. I looking at the 3.2 litre but after some discussions with the dealer chose the 2 litre Bi Turbo. While we have been very pleased with our decision to go with the 2 litre, having travelled over 35000 ks to date it with our van in tow was good to see that the differences between both vehicles were so noticeable.

    • @tranlee5622
      @tranlee5622 Před rokem

      Noticeable as in 3.2 is better or 2 lit is better?

  • @nandorherpai8581
    @nandorherpai8581 Před 4 lety +10

    Two days ago I run to the local Ford dealer and quickly bought one of the few remaining old 3.2 Litre Wildtrak. The salesman told me that only a few left because people buying them as never before...

    • @MrKiwijosh
      @MrKiwijosh Před 4 lety +10

      Salesman are good at telling you what you want to hear.

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 Před 4 lety

      That's because they are massively discounted compared to the new stock.

    • @jimmybe64
      @jimmybe64 Před 3 lety +1

      Never ask or believe a sales person

  • @craigdargie6929
    @craigdargie6929 Před 2 lety +8

    What they didn't tell you is that the 10 speed auto needs to be put into sport mode when towing. It has a good chance of failing if you don't. This also frees up the torque converter to allow it to rev easier.
    If you want a ranger that really tows great, get a 3.2, do a turbo and intercooler upgrade and have it remapped. Some companies offer driveline warranty with the tune.
    I've got 170000kms on mine and love it. Puts out more power and torque than a 200 series. Get mid 9 litres per 100kms around town and low 8s country runs. Towing our 19 foot full off road van it uses 12.6 litres per 100kms, up to mid 13s if pushing into a strong head wind. And I'm running 33 inch mud tyres.
    By, by, bi.

    • @tranlee5622
      @tranlee5622 Před rokem

      Any tuning done for your ute inorder to get 9l per 100 on 33s?

  • @frankborlase2775
    @frankborlase2775 Před 4 lety

    That was a great video and you stated the weight of the caravan but what about what you could load onto/into the ute I would be interested in how much payload you had to play with. This sort of video is very much needed keep up the good work.

  • @evertandevrellabastida3179

    Nice test guys...

  • @wkdblue62
    @wkdblue62 Před 3 lety +45

    Not sure it would be classed as a fair test or how much difference it makes but you tested the 3.2 in D and the 2ltr in S. Would this not change the way each vehicle goes up the gears.

    • @BryanM63
      @BryanM63 Před 2 lety +12

      It would make a massive difference. In drive the transmission is trying to select the highest gear possible to maintain economy. In Sport mode the transmission is trying to maintain power. The owners manual tells you to tow in sport mode.

    • @tlevans62
      @tlevans62 Před 2 lety +6

      Read the comments, they ran both tests in S mode. The B roll footage shows D, but that’s not how the test was run.

  • @sizwemasenya5747
    @sizwemasenya5747 Před 4 lety +109

    The winner is the gearbox! The 2.0l has TEN gears! That's a serious advantage!

    • @clintonfouche6379
      @clintonfouche6379 Před 4 lety +4

      Agreed!!! I rate couple that 10speed to the 3.2.. Think it would be really good.. the 2L wont work with the speed at all!!

    • @timothyfoster5659
      @timothyfoster5659 Před 4 lety +1

      Holy shit 3 seconds amazing!

    • @timothyfoster5659
      @timothyfoster5659 Před 4 lety

      Think what you could do with that time

    • @Nik_The_Heavy_Vehicle_Mechanic
      @Nik_The_Heavy_Vehicle_Mechanic Před 4 lety +3

      Calling an auto a gearbox cracks me up 😆😆😆

    • @vevohoeyo
      @vevohoeyo Před 4 lety +14

      @@Nik_The_Heavy_Vehicle_Mechanic It is actually a gearbox weather its auto or manual. It's a box with gears in it.

  • @johnkemuelricofuerto2222

    Thank you so much, very informative!

  • @alanmathews7695
    @alanmathews7695 Před rokem +2

    Really appreciate that guys, great test, great info. I am switching from Mitsubishi L200 XLS to the ranger and was focused on the 3.2 thinking bigger is better, clearly not. Decision made, bi-turbo it is. Thanks again.

    • @lachlanfurini
      @lachlanfurini Před rokem

      My dad has a 3.2 and it's great and I love the sound of the 3.2

  • @adrianlieutier7159
    @adrianlieutier7159 Před 3 lety +8

    I had a 2017 wildtrak 3.2 from new and did 140,000ks and towed a 2.7t boat most of the time. Only issue I had was the fuel injectors went at 122,000 but got them replaced under warranty.
    I’ve just purchased the 2.0 bi turbo wildtrak - I’ll put it to the test over the next few years.
    Watch this space for updates!!!

    • @noproblem2big337
      @noproblem2big337 Před 3 lety +1

      How is the 2L twin turbo going so far? there are a few negative comments just wondering...

  • @ivanmcnamee5656
    @ivanmcnamee5656 Před 4 lety +5

    Great review,
    Keep it up.

  • @jarrodpascoe8130
    @jarrodpascoe8130 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent video. That is all the shit people want to know who tow something . Good job. Liked and subscribed 👍

  • @rjl110919581
    @rjl110919581 Před 4 lety +1

    THANK YOU FOR DETAIL VIDEO
    LOVE MY 2010 ISUZU 300 4X4 CREW CAB 5.2 LITE 5 SPEED

  • @deanwylie9893
    @deanwylie9893 Před 4 lety +26

    The guy at the servo would have been the most confused person on the planet that day.

  • @darrenrobinson9242
    @darrenrobinson9242 Před 4 lety +29

    I drove both as well. I bought the 2.0 bi turbo. Was no comparison. 3.2 felt lazy and noisey. I also tow a big boat. You don’t even know it’s there.

    • @nev57
      @nev57 Před 3 lety +1

      sounds good darren how much can the 2.litre tow ,ive got pajero 3.2 litre turbo ,i love the car for its 4wd capability,but im gonna buy an 18ft off road twin axle caravan that appear to be heavier than the normal vans and im wondering about these cars .

    • @lemrivanroiset5926
      @lemrivanroiset5926 Před 3 lety

      Same. I drive 3.2 a little bit not aggressive. 2.0 is much responsive and smooth

    • @kevinblythe2192
      @kevinblythe2192 Před 3 lety +5

      Like any motor, a detuned or badly tuned 3.2l will ALWAYS give a poor result. We don't know how well it was tuned for this comparison do we? I'll take the bigger motor any day. It will last twice as long for a start cause that little motor is seriously stressed hauling around up to 6 ton including van. The 3.2l does it easily. This is about Ford offering a cheaper smaller motor with slightly better fuel economy and possibly emissions. In this disposable age the smaller motor offered is NOT designed to improve longevity so there's that.

    • @ibramguirguis
      @ibramguirguis Před 3 lety +1

      I agree with you, the only thing they noticed the smaller turbo when it boosts. Well install a bi-turbo on the 3.2l and watch the fireworks. Let's see the 2.0l when it reaches the 150k. @@kevinblythe2192

    • @mikesievers1482
      @mikesievers1482 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ibramguirguis you're not wrong. We have a 2.0L ranger for dedicated towing duties, has pulled between 2.5 and 3.2 ton five day's a week, depending on the job since 6000 km's and it's pretty much rooted.
      Compared to our other 2.0L ranger that has never towed (dedicated pilot vehicle) which still drives as tight as a drum. Despite being purchased six months apart, they both have roughly 160,000 km's on them.
      Given this has been a long term test for us (by default), I think for the average man in the street towing a caravan or boat over the holidays, the 2.0L is more than adequate.
      But as a long term proposition, forget it.
      I can't really comment on the 3.2, as I've never driven one to compare, but I suspect a comparably lazier 5 cyl would/should last longer than a higher stressed 4 cylinder.
      Towing 3000 + kgs combined with the weight of the truck with a small capacity 2.0L engine is a big ask in anybody's language.

  • @johnkennedy486
    @johnkennedy486 Před 3 lety

    Great video guys. I was surprised to say the least. My mind is now more open.
    I felt the engine was working harder in the 2.0L as it was a bit harder to understand your commentary (ie: louder). Does a harder working engine last as long? Was the transmission the big difference? Otherwise, awesome video - you can now do videos of other vehicles (towing your nicely branded van of course) for historical comparison (eg: the new Isuzu with a 3.0L donk?).

    • @darbyharrison3876
      @darbyharrison3876 Před 2 lety +1

      Please get the 3.2, my dads mate is a mechanic and he said the 2.0 litre is better for around town. But when towing or light off roading it struggles and when towing they have more issues. He said do not get one overall.

  • @pepeiliadis
    @pepeiliadis Před 4 lety

    Excellent video. Thank you

  • @LC-uw6er
    @LC-uw6er Před 4 lety +11

    Great real world test.
    Funny all the negative Nellie's who chose to buy the 3.2 over the bi-turbo 2.0 because they told themselves the 3.2 just had to be better. 6 speed, 10 speed excuses, etc Overall the 2.0 bi-turbo is the better package in real world driving. Smoother, quieter and more powerful package.!!

    • @DragonRyder2979
      @DragonRyder2979 Před 4 lety +2

      Agreed, that's why I baught the 2.0ltr one. Its simply amazing

    • @MarinePredators84
      @MarinePredators84 Před 4 lety

      @@DragonRyder2979 how many K's do you get to a tank of normal driving?

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 Před 4 lety

      @@MarinePredators84
      Not quite relevant to the models above but my 2.2 150hp automatic T6 is a workhorse and gets barely 18mpg towing a heavy trailer and 23 overall. It is capable of 30mpg on unladen unhurried long road trips. Imperial gallons of course, not the tiny American ones. This may sound bad, and it isn't great even compared to my 4.2 100 series Land Cruiser, but believe it or not and despite lacking 50hp and 50Nm torque, the Ranger 2.2 is the better towing vehicle and is sprightlier unladen. The fuel economy is about the same as my old 1984 Land Rover HiCap pickup that had the 67hp naturally aspirated diesel. The Ranger feels as if it has ten times the power not just over double.

  • @hentyellis779
    @hentyellis779 Před 3 lety +7

    I’ve had two 3.2 Ranger wildtracks,loved them.Just ordered a new Ranger Thunder 2.0 bi turbo will see how it compares.Not so sure on how long the 2.0 bi turbo will last,will only keep it while under warranty.

  • @the4ofus2023
    @the4ofus2023 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this video, unfortunately I missed the breaking comparison.

  • @azzaelko2228
    @azzaelko2228 Před 2 lety

    Awesome test, thanks guys

  • @desmondanfield7771
    @desmondanfield7771 Před 4 lety +100

    Very interesting comparison, but, you have to keep in mind the 3.2 has a six-xpeed box vs the 10-speed on the 2.0.
    i'm not doubting the power figures or ability of these beasts but to be fair, with KW and Torque figures fairly close, the gearbox makes a big difference.

    • @Anachroschism
      @Anachroschism Před 4 lety +26

      I would love to have gotten the 10 speed in the 3.2. Personally, I would rather a larger engine doing less work, than a smaller engine working over-time, and it worries me what reliability will be like. If you only keep your ranger a few years as a work car, then go for the 2.0, but if you want a better resale value and want it to last, then go the 3.2, which can be cheaply retuned to put out the same amount of power as the 2.0, if desired.

    • @stephenlee5497
      @stephenlee5497 Před 4 lety +6

      Yeah spot on. The old adage that there's no replacement for displacement may not necessarily apply if you have an auto with 10 gears!

    • @TheTripleDubya
      @TheTripleDubya Před 4 lety

      I dunno, one guy on here is saying what I've heard from other sources, the ten speeds are not yet sorted (his blew up !), so right now, maybe just maybe, the older rig is a better thing all round.

    • @einfelder8262
      @einfelder8262 Před 4 lety +5

      @@TheTripleDubya The gearboxes in the 3.2 shit themselves all the time too. Can't be rebuilt, so I've heard, have to be replaced. They are both still Fords.......

    • @darrynrich6616
      @darrynrich6616 Před 4 lety +13

      @@Anachroschism How is the smaller engine doing extra work??? RPM is work applied...the bi turbo sits on lower revs in all aspects. The engine runs a small turbo so it does not lag, 3.2 has turbo lag low meaning until the turbo spools it is labouring and working hard...when it is at speed the gear box sits the bi turbo motor at a bout 1500rpm...the 3.2 always sits 2000rpm...so as a min the 3.2 works 30% harder...not taking into the account more power and torque earlier in the bi turbo.At 1500rpm the bi turbo it hitting 470nm and the 3.2 does not get 470nm till about 2000rpm...at 3200rpm the 3.2l dies in torque back from 360nm to 318nm...the bi turbo is still at 420nm and does not drop to 400nm until 3750rpm... bi turbo is 50kg lighter as well...so please explain how it works harder ??? if you retune the biturbo as well you get benifit more than 3.2 due to being able to tune 2 turbos and more advanced management system..

  • @DragonRyder2979
    @DragonRyder2979 Před 4 lety +5

    I baught the XLT fully loaded version in 2.0ltr. One word, AMAZING.

  • @williezietsman4784
    @williezietsman4784 Před 2 lety

    I stay in Port Elizabeth, South Africa and I'm a 100% TRUE Ford
    fan/supporter. I really enjoy the presentator's way of informing me
    about the new Ford bakkies. Even when comparison tests are done, I'm
    given the info I want to know such.

  • @johnpaine7609
    @johnpaine7609 Před 2 lety

    Great report. Would be interested to see you do Landcruiser 300 when it come on same circuit