Defending Against Mob Violence - Critical Mas(s) Ep. 04 with Massad Ayoob
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- What defines a "mob?" Under what circumstances can violent or threatening action by a large group of people be considered mob violence? What rights do you have to defend yourself in these situations? From Wyatt Earp in Tombstone, AZ to Ossian Sweet in Detroit, MI, in this episode Mas explains how the history of successful defenses against mob violence has evolved, and how that landscape has changed in the modern environment of potential civil unrest.
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My grandmother was serious when she said we needed to be home by midnight because
" Nothing good happens after midnight"
Words to live by, she knows too.
I repeatedly told my son that as he was growing up and in college.
@@recycled3654you are so right. I tell my sons NOTHING good happens between 10pm and 4am.
Or as Casey Stengel told his players, don’t chase it after midnight. You’re probably not going to find it, or if you do, it’s not going to be worth it
Reality is some people work those hours. Might stop to get gas or grocery shop. Or you go out to watch a ball game and eat.
We have the right to be out, but odds of perps being in even relatively safe locations is way up, so one needs more situational awareness.
As retired LEO in large metro area, this is sage advice from an expert. I might add a warning I received from an old veteran street cop when I was a rookie back in the day: Rest assured when you go before a grand jury or trial jury, you won't be judged by 12 fellow officers (ie: your peers.) Same thing with armed citizens, you won't be judged by 12 other 2A advocates.
Unfortunately people like me have a lot to protect and lose my wife and my 4 year old son, ide rather them see daddy through a cage then visiting him at the Cemetery.
Very true, especially in theses times since Soros completed his DA insurgency. There’s another piece of advise or statement that I live by everyday. When I wake up and the first thing I do is put my firearm on, I remember that under any circumstance, it’s better to be judged by 12 than carried out by 6.
Sage advice - provided our US Constitution and continuity of government are still intact. But even now, courts are closed because of COVID. DA's are refusing cases on Multiple Accounts of Felony Assault - Family Violence. Frankly, we're in a dangerous transition testing a dysfunctional legal system and a lawless society as BLM/Antifa demonstrated earlier this year. I'd like to think we could all be civil enough to respect our fellow man and our legal process to do as you suggest. But if this continues, our courts and our economy remain closed, and mob riots rule the roosts ................ I'm not worried about 12 jurors. I'm worried about God, Country, and Family; and whatever I need to do, in the preservation of those tenets ............. and that's about it.
You'll definitely be judged in the court of public opinion.
As a man that has served on 2 pretty big deal juries for trials that took weeks, I can attest 100% to this. Most jurors are either government employees, thus sympathetic to authority or unemployed doofus’s. The reason is that most gainfully employed people don’t also have employee paid time off for jury service and the stipend offered by the court isn’t enough to make up for the loss. Also people always complain about jury duty instead of looking at it like a civic duty. We can’t complain when the system is messed up and try our best to get out of jury selection at the same time without looking as hypocritical as the left.
When talking with the majority of the people on both juries I found their grasp on the real world to be much different than mine and felt I would be effed either way if I was the defendant.
I saw my first dead bodies during the LA Riots. I saw police retreat and leave people defenseless. Our school bus was stopped 3 times by small mobs of looters, but they quickly let us through. Our bus driver had the foresight to arm herself.
I’ve been a lawyer too long. 44 years. Massad, you speak with a clarity that the vast no. of lawyers don’t have. I truly enjoy and appreciate the wisdom you bring to the discussion.
My very best.
SB
All good advice, no doubt, but if the crowd is breaking my glass and trying to drag me out of my car, and/or attacking my wife, the last thing I'm going to be thinking about is what does our State law say. It's survival at that stage.
Yes, but you still should check your local laws... BEFORE things happen. That knowledge should lead to a pretty reliable flowchart when the mess gets going.
That's an excellent point, and it's why we all need to think though these scenarios and decide in advance how we'll respond to various situations. If you try to figure it all out in the moment, you'll probably make terrible mistakes.
Referencing Fredericksburg VA this last summer where a woman and her daughter was verbally abandoned by police while trapped and being terrorized as she TRIED to escape a mob of rioters pounding on and jumping on her car; I must agree with your assessment. The persons ON her vehicle should have been fair game. Rioters depend on citizens staying within the law, and doing what police (via a dispatcher or an officer) tell the citizen (victim) to do. In the Fred'burg police response dispatchers verbalized that no officer would be responding to extricate her, nor assist her in any way. The icing on the cake was the mayor later apologizing TO THE RIOTERS (???!) For the viral condemnation of their attack on an innocent person.
At least in Virginia, AG Herring, the criminal justice system, and the state legislative body have sacrificed law adiding citizens on the alter of Marxist critical theory dogma. Yeah, avoid, but be prepared because the riotors are specifically bringing the fight TO law abiding citizens, knowing that socialist AGs, lawyers, judges, and legislators will criminalize the law abiding citizen and celebrate and protect the criminal rioter.
I don't care what the state law says I'm defending myself and my family that's all it matters to me I'll deal with it later
100% better to be tried by12 , than carried by 6.
The innocent always have to pay for the crimes of the evil intent of others. Laws have to be changed and Politicians have to be voted out of office.
Check out Ohio. There working on a stand your ground law. You wood be good as long as you are where you are legally if it means death or great bodily harm to you or your imeadiate family. Don't try to be the hero to someone that not imeadiate loved one. AND you can never prevoke the threatening party!!. At all.!
YES!
Voting no longer counts. Your vote will be subtracted from the count.
ride4kix I agree, this would solve a lot of problems. The idea of protesting is to be seen and counted, when protesters are out at night, they are rioting, plain and simple. The threat of protester being shot due to the actions of another, with no repercussions to the shooter in fear of their life, may keep them off the streets at night in the first place.
...or forcibly removed.
"Give your enemy a golden bridge to retreat across." Sun Tzu.
@Roman the idea is its easier to kill retreating troops. The most dangerous animal is the one completely surrounded because when he realizes it he'll fight until his dying breath. Battle of bastogne, 101st held it against a force 2 to 3 times its size for 8 days because they were surrounded
Ah do that is what it means
@@jglitch0 True. Reminds me of the story of USMC John Basilone or the absolutely incredible story of Senator Daniel Inouye.
If not verified, no one would have believed it. I still shake my head in disbelief and humility.
‘Stop adding shit that ain’t there to the shit I wrote’
Sun Tzu.
@@chichotwojay740 I think he did actually say something like this
Good advice, don't let your temper get you into trouble.
A bad guy can ruin your life even if they never touch you. Just be aware of your surroundings, avoid situations, but be ready if backed in a corner.
If you let yourself get backed into a corner, you've already lost. You need to make them back into a corner and fear you, not the other way around.
The best advice I've heard. A battle avoided is a battle won.
I carry my primary firearm in a two-slot pancake holster with a thumb break. I chose this configuration because it works equally well for both concealed and open carry. If I'm worried about encountering a mob, I will switch to open carry in order to deter them from choosing me as a target. If you're carrying concealed and targeted, simply exposing it is considered brandishing. At that point it's too late and, in most states, you have no legal out that doesn't involve drawing and firing. One way or another, you are almost certainly going to jail that night if the mob targets you while you are concealed carrying.
Fuck these mobs! If they stay clear from me an my family an house there will be no issues. If they try to burn my house down or break in well then it’s all over for them no questions asked idc.
Isn’t that the truth. Well said.
It is good advice. Extrapolating from that wisdom, if you live in a jurisdiction wherein you are likely to be unjustly prosecuted for defending your home with a weapon, move from that city/county/state.
There's always a way to avoid but there's also a way to react to a situation without a bad situation and that is self-defense no matter what for loved ones and those that are defenseless that is the difference between life and death it would be my life before death from somebody else that is a threat if the threat is a pursuit towards an individual like myself or somebody I love or toward somebody being harmed it is upon the action that takes place and there's no other place besides being safe with self-defense and that is the resort that will be taken if need be and no trouble thinking a weapon is a weapon no matter what it is if they are approaching with any type of salt weapon in hand it will be dealt with for self-defense that is the true outcome life before feelings... 💯♥️✝️🙏🇺🇸⚖️👌❤️🤍💙🙌🤔💡🙄🧐🤨
Spencer Blue @ 5:16 "The protestors are the ocean in which the sharks, the rioters, swim." Excellent.
And if the protesters cannot or will not keep violent miscreants out of their ranks, then that is NOT the fault of the innocent citizen.
A lot of those sharks went by the name of "The Proud Boys, Three Percenters, and Boogaloo Bois". It was a an active duty sergeant in the Air Force, and active member of the Boogaloo Bois, that shot and murdered two members of law enforcement here in Oakland CA during BLM marches through downtown Oakland.
@@mattroman4551 Do you have an article or something to show that? I can find plenty showing antifa is doing the shooting and destruction.
This shows how corrupt the modern justice system is. Once some of the demonstrators start rioting it is a riot not a protest. Giving cover to violent rioters makes one culpable for their actions in sane societies.
@@mattroman4551 None of these groups are the same. The Boogalo Bois have stated they want a race war and seem to be coming from the left. While I haven't seen 1 example of the other two groups ever being the aggressor or attack regular citizens. BLM, again on the left, do this constantly.
All the law has done is become a safety vest for criminals.
For real! Advocating avoidance when the mob comes to your neighborhood? rediculous. I get the legal reason for not wanting over-penetrating rounds but this is a legal work fabrication. Reality, and common sense, tell you anyone in that mob is fair game once the violence starts. Shouldn't be in the mob trying to restrain the "actual" violent ciminal in the first place - all of "that team's" ideology is wrong and criminal as far as i'm concerned at that point. I don't care if the enemy has a medic who looks non-violent
True. In the midst of being attacked by a mob one must be able to identify
The exact persons who will hurt you and your family. America has become a nation of fools in the era of stupidity.
Time and time again we see law abiding people going near bankrupt to keep themselves from going to jail for defending themselves against criminals.
agreed.
@@Sky1yes it sucks but still better than dead.
The Miyagi defense applies:
"Best block: no be there"
That's really good advice but you will not always be able to avoid it when you run into it by surprise on your way home from the steakhouse with your family in the car with you and you get surrounded what then?
@@munkandbear2818 10:37 Waze
Tell that to the business owners of Minneapolis.
@isaned they voted for what they got
Probably not; Democrat voter fraud is standard operating procedure.@@kevinblackburn3198
Excellent advise. Pretty sad times when, after you defend your life, you go to court to defend your life.
Oh right. Right wingers are ready to form their mobs to keep Biden from taking office.
@@nosuchthing8 that was nothing but a TV show, they did not hurt one house person or senate person, if they were trying to take over a government you kill the government, the cops inside the building were walking around with the protesters and talking together yeap it looked scary lol i guess they forgot there matches like the BLM and Antifa did when they burn down buildings and killed people, and the c that died was from a stroke and the lady who died was from a black DC cop and was unarmed but no one cares about her because she is white
@@nosuchthing8 How's that biden vote working out for you, your family and the country? FJB
@@keithsurdyke2535 he made sure thr vaccines were distributed in a timely fashion.
And he didn't support a fascist takeover of the government.
Every day, in every way, I'm so glad I voted Biden.
@@keithsurdyke2535 Ha ha! Spot on! Biden is a disaster and the Tards are taking it up the bung hole thinking it is heaven. Farm animals. Cheers Mate!
i figure as soon as the window breaks , the next action by the mob can kill me or mine so if glass comes in a bullet comes out
I remember the Watts Riots in Los Angeles. As a kid, I was terrified then living near L.A.
A bullet? How Barney Fife-like. How about emptying your mag.
I think in most states(Please do your own research) your car is an extension of your home. (I live in Commieville, IL) I believe it is as well but, they change things constantly. Be smart Stay Safe everyone! Great stuff/Reminders from Mass
Best wait till the drivers side window gets smashed........unless you have passengers
@@wapiti3750 Waste not, want not.
Exactly, the best defense is quite simply not to be there in the first place. Great video and excellent advice.
yep, so the next time someone breaks into your house, you need to make sure you are not there, in fact we recommend that you place a visible sign on your property, so criminals will know when you will be there, that way you wont need to defend yourself. you should also leave the doors unlocked, because if the criminal hurts themselves trying to break in, you could be held responsible. if there are some fiery but mostly peaceful protestors in your town, you must avoid them even though you have the legal right to be and to go anywhere in public. just because you need to go to work, or you want to drive somewhere, on public roads that your taxes helped to build and maintain, is not an excuse. you need to curtail your activities as law abiding citizen so that the protestors are not unfairly victimized when they attempt to stop your car or throw things at you etc etc....
@@xisotopex let’s go Brandon !
Your right like jan 6th now there seating in prison for years i bet now they wish they stayed home and not listen to crazy trump we have to fight like hell. Trump always talked like Hitler in he's speeches and these weak minded people fell for it now they have nothing but time to think about it while trump is out there free playing golf
100%. If you find yourself changing your ammo out to fit a future threat where you are planning to travel ... then get a grip on yourself and just don't go there. Jeez.
More often than not its the mob that comes to you. Your logic sucks. It sounds like victim blaming.
What law abiders have to endure just to protect themselves and their families is almost crippling
"Almost" crippling!
Big on almost.
@@stephencolley334 🤔
Even Bruce Lee said " the best way to block a punch is to not be there when the punch is thrown"
sounds good but it's an empty platitude; the discussion is only about what to do once the threat becomes real.
That’s not blocking a punch. That’s avoiding a punch. It’s kinda like saying that the best way to win a foot race is to be on a bicycle.
@@joejones9520 The discussion wasn’t only about what to do once the threat becomes real. Ayoob just said at the end if you can avoid the situation entirely obviously that’s best. THEN if it becomes unavoidable you take the next step. Why do you guys argue over nothing? Just for the sake of arguing??
That is my philosophy I carry a handgun everywhere but where I don't have to if possible I try to avoid conflict I get made fun of for it all the time but it truly is the best way to avoid getting into this kind of situation
@@RandomFabrication
If your boat has a hole in the hull and is taking on water, going to the other side of the boat isn't going to fix your problem.
The Kenosha Kid was very selective. Every person he shot was a threat, with an added bonus. Each was also a prior convicted felon
Kyle did an excellent job defending himself against his attackers. Above and beyond what most of us could accomplish. When a mob has gathered and is threatening you, throwing missiles, moltov cocktails, how do you know which one is going to be the one that will harm or kill you? Do you wait until your head is bashed in before you defend yourself? By then, of course, it is too late.
Best course is to stay out of the hot spots. That is stay out of the large liberal cities and let them eat their own.
The famous Kenosha Hat Trick
His problem is he had no good reason to be where he was. He wasn't hired as private security or as far as I know even where he was at the request of the property owners or the city. As Mas said, it's the totally of circumstances that the courts look at. I have zero sympathy for the scumbags he shot, but I have zero empathy for him because he foolishly put himself in that position to begin with
@@nightrider1850 in the USA you don’t have to have a reason to be in a public place. There is no law that says if a riot breaks out, rioters are allowed to be there and everyone else is not.
@@nightrider1850 the rioters shouldn't have been there. Free country last time I checked.
Amazing how the exact same situation can have different outcomes depending on which state the incident happens. There should be universal laws in all of the US when it comes to these matters.
I was attacked not long ago. I was able to pick the attacker off the ground and slam him to the floor. I was carrying but I never pulled because I felt he was done after hitting the floor. I walked away keeping eye contact and left the scene. He was extremely intoxicated and apparently he thought I was someone else. Glad I just walked away because I don’t want a death on my heart unless no other option is available.
Ra, ra, sis, boom, ba!
And ANOTHER "war story"
Just your own stated fact that you were able to pick the guy up and body slam him, makes the entire incident IRRELEVANT to nearly every one!
Brag about your "bad ass self" to your drinking buds, but otherwise ... nobody cares!
Glad you didn't have to use deadly force, but at least it was there if needed!
It is unfortunate that a nation of laws has degenerated to this point.
Not to worry, it will likely get worse ... If you defend yourself with a gun, expect to be arrested ... which is also better than being dead ...
yes, and in favor of the criminal, not the victim!
Sadly, we have voted for this insanity.
For decades.
This is just the beginning. We have seen a small glimpse of what is really coming and it's going to be ugly. Very ugly.
Keep voting demoncrat it will be worse soon
I’ve seen a lot of videos of mobs surrounding cars, and I didn’t see any “good” protesters trying to remove them saying “that’s not who we are”
You are giving these people way too much dignity
I couldn’t agree more.
Very true! If I'm in my vehicle with my family and a violent mob surrounds my vehicle slamming and kicking my vehicle with baseball bats and crowbars and attempting to flip us upside down, I will shoot every mf in that crowd. And if a innocent bystander was stupid enough to remain in close proximity and they get shot. Sucks to be them.
I have but that video will not get the attention it's the yell fire not help kind of thing
I've seen it happen. In fact, Charleston protest that was used to falsely accuse Trump of being a so-called supremacist was an example of peaceful protestors among violent rioters like Antifa.
I have seen ONE video of a mob going after an elderly disabled man who took a wrong turn and ended up in an ANTIFA mob. They were attacking him, and you could hear one person saying "guys, stop" because he could see that it was a confused disabled person. I can only hope that this person was inspired by that event to get far away from those sick mobs.
Excellent Video. I've been mostly reading your wisdom since the 1980s. From the the time when Glocks were ridiculed as "plastic" guns that wouldn't last. And could go through airport X-Ray machines. Every magazine had at least one article about 9mm vs .45 "stopping power". I think .40 S&W is still a perfect compromise.
You still give great updated advice 40+ years later. And the legal terrain is much more complicated.
Either you haven't aged or you've really taken care of yourself. I look 50+ years older than I did in the mid 1980s.
What's your secret?
Penn State Police proved years ago that for them the .357 mag was the best whereas the ER doc in Chicago clearly defined the best as the .45 because most gang bangers shot with a .45 stayed dead. They would patch up the 3=5, nine mm holes and after a week in ICU/rehab the bangers went home to get well and reenact their crimes.
Yes criminals have more rights than law abiding citizens
They also have a lot more options. First and foremost they have the choice not to follow the laws and restrictions.
@@sctm81 Criminals and law abiding people have exactly the same rights until criminals are convicted in a court of law in the U.S.
@@mistrrhappy that's not what I meant. I meant that criminals dont abide by the laws and have an advantage.
That direction will continue till "we", the poeple start Jailing and holding Politicions accountable for draconian, Marxist laws.
@@sirvandovargas1182
Exactly my friend. And that will follow after the 'war.'
Why is it the burden of the individual being surrounded by angry, racist people, to identify which one will enact violent actions in a split second? It's sad that we've gotten to this point.
Not a split second. The Texas Ranger he mentioned would come to towns in the hold of riots. The Ranger watched to see who the ringleader was. He then waded into the crowd and beat the ringleader to a pulp. One riot, one Ranger.
Please give an example of protesters being unjustly attacking innocent people?
sad, yes. but true.
@@constancemiller3753 You , very sharp person,You Likeee go to all you can eat Mongolian Bar-BQ With me and get lucky on full stomach?
Because some people in the crowd may be committing crimes whereas others are not. You don't get to simply kill people randomly because you are frightened.
@MassadAyoob It is refreshing to hear proper wording and terms.
This was a very well thought out video. The random violence is what motivated me to start being more defensively minded all day every day when I am out in the world. I always was, but not on the level of attention I have nowadays. This world has gone around the bend in some places in particular. I never had the mindset that having a weapon allowed me to go anyplace I would not go without it. It makes me more cautious instead. I hope we never have to go that far. The Gravest extreme indeed.
That's one thing I like about Mississippi. If someone attacks you on your property and you kill them, it's just too bad for them.
Pretty well the same in Idaho, we have no requirement to retreat first.
Havent had any "peaceful protests" of any note down on the MS coast so when I see the mobs and riots on the news and then hear a talk like this it is almost as if the discussion is of another country.
Amen
Hate to admit it, but have seen the 'wisdom' of that after retiring from 'civilized' urban life, to semi-rural AZ where everyone 'carries'... always providing a clear 'incentive' to avoid any further _escalation._
I am moving there as we speak
Attacks take seconds. No one will be going through local laws when being attacked. A real shame that one is attacked in the street, then in court for defending yourself. A real shame the DA puts themselves into the position of the second attacker, but so be it...
StrainedDig4 Retired police of 36 years you are correct these damn atty gen and judges are the issue. Look up on newsmax the state atty gen of new jersey wanting to limit police dealings with public. Look at this atty gen picture. Got his head dress looks like someone out of India.? WTF call that politically incorrect if you want but that is just messed up here in the us yeah Im sure that is gona just work out great in newjersey for the police.
great advice. it makes sense. what a sad state of affairs we are in. thank you Massad
Thank you Massad. I have been binge watching a lot of defense, carry, platforms, etc videos. I find your videos to be among the most relevant and helpful.
Such will also be in your user history subpoenaed by prosecutor if you ever do it.
@@paulwebber504 Big deal. One has to be knowledgeable in order to prepare for the coming violence.
There's nothing illegal about curiosity.
Another Good one from Massad; He mentioned avoidance...
I always stated "Avoidance is the higher form of personal defense or protection", and now, apparently the least costly...
@Eric W anticipation. You cant avoid every situation. But often if you are informed you can ask yourself if this trip is necessary today or if it can wait. You can ask yourself if there is a better way to get there with less risk. You can be on the lookout to anticipate trouble scenarios.
@@pcolley5381 True. But when is the last time any of us had the time, money, and opportunity to train for this?
From personal experience: members of a mob are still sane enough that no one of them will be among the first to attack a defended position. Only if they believe they can flank / overwhelm you will they try.
If you can, get the leader / instigator / loudmouth. The mob will quickly lose direction.
"Just shoot em in the face"
Awesome scene in the movie “the 5th element” about this. Bruce Willis’ character is faced with a mob of brainless warrior types, hollers something about wanting to negotiate with the “leader” and ends that threat, then asks if anyone else wants to negotiate leaving the remaining brainless moron “warriors” saying to themselves WTF. There are plenty of wanna be “warriors” right now. They may not be the “leaders” of any “event” but they can kill you, your family, loved ones, friends, etc. all the same. I don’t know where I was going there, but it was funny to me, the scene from the movie I mentioned minimally. Have a beautiful and safe day. Enjoy!
Ayoob is a class act. A 'gun guy' who makes a whole lot of real world sense.
Thank you Sir for your words of wisdom and many years of inspiration!
Thanks for listening
Wise words. Even if it's legit self defense, you're stilled screwed in some places.
that is true in most places..... attorneys will be lining up at the dead persons door for a piece of the pie... they will make more money suing you than defending you,,,, that seems to be a fact today.... every one is sue crazy looking for the easy money... that is where client attorney privilege comes in...... we know you are guilty but we will try our best to free you and sue the ass off the other person or manufacturer....
Liberal shit-holes! That is where all the shit lives anyway. May as well bring them from Mogadishu....oh, this is where they come from.
Like America?
I have been in such a situation and it can happen in a pro-2nd state. I was able to get away and no problem. Some have said: "Buy you had a gun, why didn't you use it?" They don't understand that I have a gun to NOT use unless there is no choice.
Having past experience yes sir. Its seriously stressful to life property and family getting involved with active use of force. Under color of authority. Civil rights issues alone, personal in nature, too professional adhering too rules of force. 7 years of ongoing dark cloud haunting. I was a prison tower gunner for five years for a very violent institution. Today, I’m old, wore out, beaten down, not healthy as a typical PERS retiree. I’ve been attacked several times, but I seem to go right into clear headed thinking just as I did my 38 years past. I even find myself smiling at parolee turds as they fling themselves against my passenger window. Our governor mandatory catch and release program is awful. As a 10 year Police Reserve I spent countless hours in the homes of these felons. I know the pain caused by sons, daughter’s, and ex-baby daddies.
I clearly realize the 95 too 98 percent of all public services needed clause. The HOODS. Ambulance, fire, police homicide, forensics all tied up in the same areas over and over and over.
I think it was Journey who came up with the song That Big Wheel in the Sky Keeps Turning... I used to play it alot coming home post shift with tears in my eyes.
My health has caused my faculties (eye hand/arm brain coordination) a hindrance. Sight hearing, bearing, directional hearing, balance, how many more can I come up with? In my community, which is a high crime area, I move on the installment plan option along with my Medicare Part B plan. Parking lots, carts galore, mental illness even in places you think are safe, I must ignore, be like a mouse, await someone younger to intercede. Its the shits for sure.
Now, I sit here in my blessed household. Typing this out, feeling insignificant too it all. Just another rubber-necker whom began in the 1970’s believing he could be all that he could be, only too realize this is what turned out him to be.
I’m 10-7
"Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6."
When the government abandons the Law Abiding Citizen, the Law Abiding Citizen will abandon the Law.
The 12 judging you will be hand selected from that BLM crowd like with Chauvin. We're in a post-law, post-justice system.
Indeed, "the law" is now a means to kill us.
After the show trial and the media smear and constant spotlight and lies. You can decide if was truly better to go to trial or to have died in your encounter.
Stupid statement. Juries are a big risk these days.
@@RADIOACTIVEBUNY Rittenhouse case says otherwise.
Mr. Ayoob is a very wise man. Great advice. Avoidance is key.
Great, common sense advice! Thanks Mr. Ayoob.
Massad Ayoob always gives incredibly useful advice.
A battle avoid is a battle won. Great advice thank you sir.
Yea, that's how the real patriots won the revolution we need to fight again now, huh
Very sound advice. I always tell people it is better to be aware of your surroundings to avoid potential threats, and de-exsolate "if possible". Thanks for making these videos available to the general population. You have vast experiences and sound advice. Thank you.
Excellent advice. Not what everyone necessarily wants to hear but definitely what they need to hear.
If I have to wait until a Molotov cocktail hits my house, then it's too late to save my house and family.
EXACTAMUNDO!
Or, as I said in another comment:
"Good luck trying to selectively pick off the 98 out of a mob of 100 that are trying to kill you, while avoiding the two that MIGHT NOT be so disposed. How are you supposed to know which ones are thinking what? : )
Imagine having ten of these idiots yelling and spitting in your face, but you're waiting for a brick upside the head before you react. This is where we are."
The McCloskeys had it EXACTLY RIGHT. You CANNOT WAIT until your house is on fire! The dirtbags will just wait from concealment to pick you off as soon as you come out the door... you'll never know what hit you.
And he also failed to mention that in a protesters/mob group with pickets and guns they all become TARGETS because the picket sign people are there with the gun toting thugs of such and are putting themselves in harms way or they're there as a literal decoy of sorts or accessories to the mob violence which is another way to look at it !!! In other words protesters SHOULD not be with thugs with GUNS/RIOTERS PERIOD !!!! And by that time there is NO law and order when SHTF to that level !!!!!
WHY?
If the firebomb failed to impact in the interior what makes you make this assumption about fire behavior? Fire Alarms are mandatory. Think of those as offering safety/evacuation. Cocktails are liquid in composition. NOT Blasting penetrating or fragmentation type.
Your dog will become aware or even a family cat, mob action such as here in my community involves hundreds even thousands suddenly showing up in well manicured neighborhoods. Scares shit out of everybody. Elderly especially. Yes arson has is occurring sir. But, believe me, you’ll be awakened when and if such action visits you’re neighborhood soon.
Perfectly stated.
Buy a fire extinguisher now.
If your car is surrounded, how can you avoid them?
I would be in fear for my life.......period.
I assume "vehicular assault" is deemed less serious by the DA than any sort of firearm charge.
You car IS a weapon. Determine the easiest way of escape and floor an accelerator.
Have you ever noticed that police cars keep a space in front when they come to a stop in traffic-- they are trained to do that to avoid being boxed in.
Put the car in low gear and run the bastards over.
exactly. I respect Ayoob but he's ignoring the elephant in the room here. He's talking about protesters who are protesting on a street where there happen to be cars, vs. thugs who deliberately approach cars to attack them while carrying signs and chanting slogans so they can claim to be protesters.
Very informative, great perspective, I was working night shift in Philadelphia subway when the riots were happening and it was very nerve racking, I’m glad I was never personally threatened because I probably would have gone completely hot being a new dad at the time : god bless
Thanks for sharing
if politicians spoke with this honesty.. clarity.. truth what a world this could be,....
The best advice he gave was don't go to places where there is or may be trouble. Avoid by means possible.
"Avoidance" is the best advice of all.
Sort of hard to avoid them when they show up on your doorstep, burn your place down and beat you up.
YA. sit in your basement and watch TV....
That is the best advice.
I agree but in 2020 there are many cases, events where actions happen rapidly or are chaotic. It's easy to second guess or berate someone after a event. I do security, licensed-armed 👮🏻♂️. Street people & thugs can be erratic or intoxicated, "excited delirium". Its hard & dangerous to deal with these suspects.
What you going to do when they come for you? Have a plan.
Thanks, Mas. I've been studying your work since I got my first gun back in the '90s. I appreciate this clarification on "current events."
Mr. Ayoob is the difference between wisdom and inexperience. Great video.
AS A RETIRED OFFICER, THIS WAS EXCELLENT ADVICE FOR ALL.
Ditto!
My husbands an ex M.P., bodyguard and C.I.D. agent and I'm quite sure he'd disagree with this. ANTIFA and BLM are out there openly killing people!
Basically what the future holds for law abiding citizens is to become as unlawful as they are, be stealthy, make a serious attempt to be untraceable and do your absolute best to leave no evidence behind.
Words of wisdom, my friend 👍😎
Two stiletto's, Hours of knife fighting practice, Concealable knife fighting armor, even so, there is always a camera watching. Always.
Evidence??
what evidence?
A wheel gun leaves no shell casings.
I trust God and He takes care of me. He Is above All things.
Solid advice, love this channel.
Great measured response. The 2A community needs more like you sir.
I'll never understand why Mr. Ayoob's videos don't have millions of views.
It's surprisingly simple: those "powers that be" aren't interested in such a message getting to the masses, sooo...his videos are not advertised, the algorithms throttle the exposure. Same thing that happens when any group of power is adamant about controlling/influencing the masses. Same story has been happening since the beginning of time.
To Factual for Crybabies
@ boring to Learn something ?
Because he’s an adult, not a blow hard driving drama.
Because he doesn’t have oversized glasses, plastic surgery, and cover ridiculous topics.
These videos are sage advice. Many people do not think about actually drawing your firearm and taking a life in self defense. Once you pull the trigger, your life will change forever.
Thank you so much for the thoughtful presentation of this topic. Great advice. Think long term before you pull that trigger. And avoid the situation all together if possible.
I wonder how many people died because someone told them "think long term before you pull that trigger." I grew up with bad guys. They love people who take too long and "think."
by that time you are dead or crippled...then what
I just can't help but wonder why people actually think that if a person has made the decision to carry, why wouldn't they consider what would happen if they have to use it?
This is just stupid. You'd probably end up dead if you think long term ....
Massad is brilliant in gun law and common sense, tried and tested with a lifelong career in Law Enforcement, firearms handling and Case Law. Awesome job as usual.
I'm loving all the content , & instruction on concealed carry ! I'm a first time gun owner ! Thank you
I appreciate the wisdom of an old man with the retrospective to recall what fights he regrets engaging in and what is really important.
Be SAFE And try to avoid Protests if you can !
Because a white male will get convicted for SELF DEFENSE ASK K RITTENHOUSE!.😡
Massad, I remember when you first started writing for Guns & Ammo. You always were great and informative, the videos are really outstanding. THANKS!!!
I have every issue since Robert E. Petersen started G&A in 1958 .w
Writers such as Ackley, Craig Boddington, Jeff Cooper, Garry James, Bill Jordan, Elmer Keith, Bob Milek, etc.
A wealth of history and knowledge.
What?!?!?! Walking dead isn't a training film?!?!?!
Love the wisdom Mas shares. I constantly learn from these videos.
Outstanding video and presentation
Thanks for the visit
Remember to maintain availability for jury duty. Patriotic friends may need friendly faces on juries.
Jurors are supposed to be impartial, not "friendly".
Amen. Stop trying to get out of it.
@@lawrencecollins7398 like the Wash DC juror pool for the Jan 6 defendants or Trump. Totally impartial eh? Relatve to an angry lib a reasonable, impartial person would be branded a hater, fascist, racist and other ists
@@lawrencecollins7398 yeah, good luck with a full black jury after you defend your home against a black assailant
@@jackjohn189 I'll take 1000 juries with people of any ethnic extraction over any jury with a blatant racist on it. Please deport yourself.
Listening to you for decades. You are as solid and insightful as ever. Many thanks.
Thank You for the excellent details. Most Americans needed to hear this. Everyone keep praying for Our Great Constitutional Republic.
*One Nation Under God.*
The first time I became familiar with Massad Ayoob was when I saw and purchased his Spyderco knives, one in a razor edge and one with a full Spyder edge. I still have them to this day. I since have learned a lot from him with regards to how to handle yourself in many different scenarios. Extreme respect for this man even though I've never met him personally.
I'm SOOO glad to see Massad Ayoob here and now.
I've followed him decades ago (wow). I'm happy to see him, and hear him weighing in.
I have always felt that the best defense was to be aware of current events, both where you are and where you are planning to go. Not allowing yourself to get jack potted into a bad situation in the first place is not magic, it's just forethought.
Thank you so very much, dear friend, for the most sage advice I've heard in many years. Stay safe, stay healthy, live long, and many rich blessings to you and yours.
best legal gun ownership channel and information. so helpful
Worthwhile advice from one of the very best sources.
Much gratitude to Wilson & Mas!
I’ve never had anyone try to “assist” me when I was in a street fight. They were always assisting the perp.
God bless you, Mas. I know of no greater source of sound information on this rather wide subject.
Thank you!
Thank you.
Welcome!
It's interesting that Massad Ayoob mentions Reginald Denny. It's precisely because of the savage beating that Reginald Denny endured, that I carry a firearm with me everywhere I go. What happened to Reginald Denny was the "ultimate hate crime." I am not negating any of the historical atrocities that African-Americans have experienced in the U.S., but neither Reginald Denny nor I perpetrated these crimes against humanity, nor do we agree with these injustices. In my family tree, I found 4 ancestral grandfathers who fought for the Union Army during the Civil War to "free the slaves." These were family men, and if they had died, then #1) I might not be alive and #2) Their widows and children would have likely suffered from the effects of "multi-generational poverty", since there was no life insurance (at least not for the common man) back in the 19th century. One of the most extreme examples of ignorance is to look at any one group of people and lump them into one category as chaotic, unruly, uncivilized, or even "privileged." I believe that you should "Never judge another man until you have walked a mile in his moccasins." - Native American proverb
Your view of reality: Honey, I’m going to the store to buy antifreeze. I better bring my gun.
Almost every other person: Honey, I’m going to the store to buy antifreeze. See you soon.
@@gwarlow Yea, you're right. You should never be prepared.
@@gwarlow victim yet
It’s good to know the law BUT when our life’s are in danger the only thing that matters is front sight picture and proper trigger press . Love this channel
My street is organized. We have a plan, and we will do what needs to be done. We are all vets. A mob in my neighborhood is going to be met with requisite, justified response.
Though it may not have been your intent, you have made a solid argument here that protesters blocking road ways violates my rights to travel unmolested.
Retired after 36 years on the job. This is the best explanation I have heard from anyone.
"A battle avoided is a battle won!"
That's not the way "Coward of the County" ended.
Yeah that's what the RINO's keep telling themselves about the election. Turning a blind eye now only delays a one-party political system.
Good thought process to be lead to our enslavement and death. "Dont fight back!"
The problem is that bad guys don't always give you that option. As far back as the Rodney King riot the "protesters" marched into residential neighborhoods, looting, burning and injuring the innocent. Cali. Is not "stand your ground".
During the last election cycle garages, cars and homes were burned for having a MAGA sign. These victims were not given the option to avoid conflict.
Justin, you have to consider the vice president of the US Kamala Harris bailed out the rioters and is a staunch supporter of any violent act on her side. Right from the top folks like me and you have no chance being exonerated of any defensive act. We are in a bad situation......
This man is like no other! God bless Massod Ayoob!
Wisdom from Remus (RIP) and the Woodpile Report: Stay away from crowds.
Ol' Remus was the best. I feel like we lost a national treasure when he passed.
Glad I live in a rual area.
jatpack3: Amen! Glad we left the Austin hell hole 3 yrs ago for beautiful
NEast Texas. Ain't enough DemonRats in the whole county to fill a short
bus. So....no commie rioters to avoid.. And dam n, I'm happy about THAT!
Best advice I've seen on the subject. I wish more people would take it to heart.
"Prepare, Prevent, Assist & Avoid". Good Advice.
Providing that the Judicial System isn’t corrupt!
and most places it is corrupt....any one that is demorat
You obviously live in a different state than I do.
I love that you also include the avoidance idea as well. So many people seem to want to tempt fate. Also points for the Sun Tzu reference. I feel more people should read that.
Avoid,escape at every chance.
If cornered do what you must.
A voice of reason...
Thanks Massad! As always great advice for real world scenarios! Appreciate you very much! 🙏🏼🇺🇸
Once again, the good guys have to be responsible for the bad guys
This guy is incredible. Why have I not heard of him yet?
Like getting wisdom from the place wise people get wisdom.
You should read his 20 part commentary on the Trayvon Martin case. Very eye opening !
you don't read ANY gun magazines ???? Ayoob has been writing for YEARS....
Wisdom beyond measure!
Such wisdom in a compact clip. A true master.
That was a great talk. I’m glad I watched. Thanks, Mass! “A fight avoided is a fight won.”
A battle avoided is a battle won. We should all keep these words in mind.
often times a battle avoided is merely a battle delayed
Sounds like you've never been attacked before. Shit happens in an instant. I personally believe in fighting with everything you've got and being as ruthless as you have to in order to end the situation.
Your right, we should always avoid 2A legal battles, that way we win when we lose our rights. Don’t fight the rapists when they do their thing and come into your home.
There is a time to stand up for yourself too, and when they trespass it’s time to get off the couch, dust off the cheese puffs, and prepare for the worst hiding bunkered in a corner or down a hallway. In a car don’t stop if you want to live, a sitting target is a dead target.
Stay inside never go out
Right on the money.
EXCELLENT Explanation!! Thank you Massad.