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War Thunder G56 | How Many 1vs3s Does It Take?
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- čas přidán 2. 02. 2018
- Ammo:
-20mm: Air Targets
Convergence: 400m
Manual Engine Control settings:
-30% radiators
-100% prop pitch
How many 1vs3s does it take to win a match? How many 1vs3s does it take for you to be satisfied? You decide!
Sea level speed spreadsheet:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
damn nothing can be done if the God of Sparks descended down and embraced a spitfire.
Haha that God seems to prefer Spitfires in general as well.
*no teammates left* proceeds to make commands/reports
Lmao habit!
I have never seen such ammo efficiency, you're the best player i have ever met!
Thanks! This was an average ammo efficiency match, I've got some matches on CZcams that have even better ammo efficiency if that's what you're interested in ;).
Adam514 I saw all of your rb videos, I absolutely love them
Everything is RB on my channel haha, and thanks! Watching all my videos is pretty impressive!
Adam514 not your duels with dogeness hehe
Oh you mean clips from real matches when you say RB? RB to me is the realistic game mode, whatever you choose to do with it, whether it be duels or matches.
If u had better crew u might've won
G56 is amazing.And only very good pilots take it to the battle thanks to ridiculously high repair cost .I'm usually very careful whenever I see a G 56 coming towards me lol. Nice video!
Thanks!
I don't look at repair costs, I didn't even know it was high. Definitely a great aircraft.
This repair cost thing is really confusing to me, I started hearing people complain a lot about it but i don’t even know the repair cost of any of my planes/tanks....
@@erkergul it appears on the stats card and basically everytime you die in the vehicle you will have to pay the repaircost in the case of the g56 about 28k sl right now or you can just wait like 2 weeks for it to repair free and be able to play it again
@@ajitomate3908 or you can crash land with gear and flaps and reduce the repair cost
And now 30k repair cost... enjoy
Haha that won't stop me.
Now is 38k stock looool
Make that 44K.
IT KEEPS RISING MAKE IT STOP
@@noivern666 it shouldn't for good!
2 It takes 2 1v3s, jokes aside very nicely managed. Heres a nice lil thumb )
Thanks! Hopefully that lil thumb is oriented correctly ;).
In my eyes it is yes hue
I think this was the first time I've watched you lost a battle! And I've been following you for a while! Great game indeed! You're making me want to join this game!
I show interesting losses from time to time ;).
Been watching a couple of your dogfighting videoes. Even to someone who doesn't play WarThunder (but dabbles in other air combat games) they are a pleasure to watch over your commentary: both mindset and maneuvering tactics.
Thanks for the compliments!
After just 2 weeks of watching your channel I have learned to best my friends in duels. Almost have my hunter and hope to get it soon, but with these tactics, it will be no problem
There's always more to learn, one of the joys of War Thunder!
9:45 sounds like my hair trimmer lol. That sound is just amazing.
Hahaha true!
Sgt Miranda here, great vid like always m8, i Just got this aircraft hehe o7
Thanks mate! It's a strong one!
Dang. That first kill was basic EVIL. ...you're just too good.
Thanks!
Exactly, he is too good of a player with that aim. I think that's why he got RNG sparks in the end :P
Super gameplay ! j'ai beaucoup de temps de jeu sur War Thunder mais je dois dire que ta façon d'analyser la rétention d'énergie de chaque avion que tu combats m’impressionne. Même si je connais les spécificités globales des avions, j'ai pour habitude de me battre au feeling peu importe ce que je rencontre en face.
Je devrais essayer de pousser un peu mon analyse histoire de m'éviter certaines morts idiotes, mais aussi essayer de jouer avec le contrôle sur le radiateur et le prop pitch parce que les avions italiens ont une fâcheuse tendance à chauffer rapidement...
Encore une fois bien joué !
Merci mec! Initialement avant mes tests j'allais également au feeling pour la rétention d'énergie. Parfois par contre les feelings n'ont pas toujours raison!
with manual engine controls you can touch the real power of regia areonautica XD
with wep and auto radiator you can only taste the suffering of pistons XD
Haha for sure, but that goes for all props! Except maybe Germans.
@@AdamTheEnginerd What? You can use MEC to keep rad 100% on 109s and pretty much WEP all the time.
@@WigglyWings Fw190s have automatic radiators to not overheat. Also 100% still overheats on 109s below G6, and produces a lot of drag on all of them.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Yeah,190s don't overheat. I only use MEC while climbing, so not much issue of drag. Plus I only have till G14, which I rarely fly :P
Nice match! I miss sqadding with you but I've been so busy with school :'(
Thanks!
And likewise, but don't worry about it! We'll have more opportunities I'm sure.
Yeah, but there are no guarantees you will even get one kill. And with 38k lion repair cost. Who but the rich can play that gamble they will shoot down at least three or four planes when you take it out of the hanger. Not me. So it stays in my hanger until Gaijin wakes the hell up and puts a more reasonable repair cost on it.
I've never checked repair costs and I've never had SL issues and I've never used premium. I have no idea how someone can have lion issues.
@@AdamTheEnginerd I tell you. I suck at the game.
@@AdamTheEnginerd You're better than the average pilot. That's why.
I started off bad like everyone else, and when I was bad I still didn't have SL issues.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Lol Its a bit late, but SL economy I think was nerfed over the years while RP was buffed so buying planes was a lot faster and often hampered your SL balance. I remember before 2018 or so usually I had excess SL because each plane took more RP to unlock, but then after RP costs for all planes were reduced and after the RP cap per match was removed I started having issues with SL because I could unlock Tier 5 jets in like 5-6 matches but my SL balance couldn't keep up spending hundreds of thousands of SL per plane.
magnificent video I was in suspense until last!
Glad you liked it!
You should do more videos flying the g56!! Great video thanks!!!
Thanks, will do!
That's the plane I am most afraid of in my P51 D30 for sure. I have not figured out a tactic yet
Yeah it's very dangerous.
Add club music to this lol
Lol club music?
surprisingly there isn't a lot of vids on this plane recently. Wonder if it has something to do with the 55 fucking thousand silver lion repair cost.
Repair cost doesn't matter for most people who make videos.
I'm having troubles fighting P-51Ds and P-47Ds in it (funnily enough I have no troubles with other P-51 or P-47 models) when they have about the same energy as I do or have more energy than me, any tips?
Other than that, it's really a joy to fly, when doing consecutive vertical loops it actually feels like you gain energy. I killed many opponents just patiently looping until I was behind them.
Would you consider making a video on the J2M3 in the near future? I was planning on spading it later this month or during June but I have absolutely no clue about how to fly it. I've flown the J2M2 when it was released but that's quite some time ago now.
Discovered your channel about 2 weeks ago and you make good content (you're the best RB pilot I've seen in War Thunder so far), considering to Subscribe to you.
If they have the same energy as you, you can outturn and outclimb them. G56 holds all the cards in that situation. Use flaps too if under 450km/h. If they are above head towards teammates while trying to make him overshoot. Against P47s, dive to the deck. Against P51s you're better off staying higher.
I've added J2M3 to my list! I heard it was nerfed somehow, we'll see.
Unfortunately I wasn't able to test out your tips, the only P-51Ds I ran into had significantly less energy than me and I haven't fought a P-47. Now I spaded it and probably won't ever touch it again. Thanks for your tips, I already improved my flying with your videos by a fair bit.
In case you're interested in talking a bit about planes in War Thunder and you use Discord, I'm sure we can arrange something. I think that would be better than filling your comment sections with endless messages that aren't even relevant to the video.
You are the sole reason for high repair costs
Haha nah I don't fly it much.
Adam514 I’m talking in general man the Ta and F4U4B and the G56
F4U4B maybe.
I find watching Warthunder planes oddly pleasant to watch
Haha indeed!
i fint your style of videos really relaxing , others Talk non-stop ,meanwhile here i can pay attentin to what actually is happening (english is not my First Lang.) :)@@AdamTheEnginerd
Haha thanks!
It's 6.0 now... still competitive/the best 6.0 prop you think?
It is in RB?
@@AdamTheEnginerd ah sorry. it is 5.7 in RB. Thank you
It deserved the BR raise certainly, it's competitive at 5.7.
Hi, Adam! Great content you have on your channel. Would you be so nice and tell me where you get that black box with flight parameters? Would you make a video on how to use this or do you allreadys have a video about it? Could you point it out? I also have one question... which are the prop planes with best thrust to weight ratio? I play AB though so I ask in this regard? Keep up with the great work. I really like you. Time to add some voice of you, yes? BR
Thanks man! You really should get into RB though, lots of fun.
The box comes from the "local host":
How to access the "local host":
You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work!
Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT:
-Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila.
Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT):
-Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
109s have great T/W, and P51D as well because of some bug, we'll see if that changes. In arcade though everything accelerates quickly so it's not that important.
Hey, thanx for the info on localhost. I'll check that up for sure. Regarding AB... I like it because there is more action to fullfill my needs. IMHO most of RB players suck in both modes and they play RB because they die instantly in AB. Or they play bombers.
I think RB is much easier to play as you only use elevators, it doesn't matter what weapons you carry to shoot down anything in small bursts and there si no respawning so you are safe from revenge kills. In AB you need skills on using rudder and your situational aweranes must be on much higher level. Both modes are 2 different worlds and it just doesn't make sense to try to compare them. This is how I see it and I really hate morons that try to look down at AB.
Regarding the T/W in AB... you are just wrong. It does matter big time. High end AB pilots make their kills in energy fighting... to the point where I don't carry pods on 109G2 so I can get that extra 100m lift when I draw energy from the opponent. In AB best energy planes are 109s ofcourse, besides them J2Ms, Yak3VK, Yak3, Spitfire LF, Bearcat, La9, G56...when these planes are flown right they are untouchable. I'm really dissapointed in your answer on this one... live and let live, eh?
Wow never heard the claim that people play RB because they suck in AB, interesting! For me it's quite the contrary, AB is too easy even though I've played very little and I get around 10-15 kills a game.
Situational awareness in RB is more important. You don't only use the elevator at all in RB, you were playing it wrong.
To paraphrase a quote from a movie: "if everyone accelerates well, no one does."
What claim? Just check the stats of players, lol... 10 - 15 kills you get over enemies spawn when flying in squad with 3 other morons... if you fly solo over enemy spawn you need skill... and energy fighter... I'd like to see you score 15 kills in P51D30 in AB... lol...
Maybe you should check some streams from Legend and Flip... that's skill... live stream... no squad...
Situational awareness in RB? Where everything is in slow motion? Try dogfight 2 at the same time watching at the third guy coming from the spawn pissed at you as he was the third guy you fought at the same time a minute ago...
I hate planes that can only B&Z... take a corsair and make 15 kills... I dare you... or any FW190 for that matter... it's AB after all... where they all accelerate well...
The claim you made in your comment. Can you link stats that support your point? No I don't squad in AB. In AB firepower matters a lot more, so no I won't be able to do 15 kills in the P51D30 in a short time frame. Cannon corsair or Fw shouldn't be difficult.
Why is everything in slow motion in RB? Not sure I understand. As you said though, enemies in AB will be coming from their spawn invariably, easy to keep track of them.
Odd roll may be explained by that asymmetrical wing, iirc
They are symmetrical on the G56.
@@AdamTheEnginerd sorry, wrong plane. "As with the C.200, to counteract the torque of the engine, Castoldi extended the left wing by 21 cm" (wiki quote on the C.202)
What happened to these beautiful blue flames? I don't see them anymore.
Hmm I don't know.
How do you measure enemy energy state?, And how do you know when the energy is enough to engaging?
Speed and altitude, so closing speed (distance ticker). You get a feel for it when you play.
Wow, what a close range spark. I have had a lot of sparks in my day but that one takes the cake. Holy shit that would have been a new mouse or joy stick. lol. I actually play on PS4 so a new controller lol. That was the spark of sparks. 20 mils ar 2 feet away and they spark. Had you killed him that would have made things entertaining for sure.
Hahaha I controlled my anger!
I saw your profile online. You were offline. I will catch you another day. Just moded up my Cl-13. What a nice plane. Really care free. Easy to fly and the 50's being buffed has helped a ton.
Yeah sorry, I'm working on a project right now and I want to get it moving.
CL13 seems like the best 9.0, and might be the easiest 9.0 to fly. Deadly combo.
Not a fan of the Italians. Not saying there bad just not my style. Either way good job!
Thanks! Difficult match.
Adam514 can you fly out the Ki-100 soon?
Sure! Actually never flown it.
Can u do a vid on how to counter 4.7 Japan or under using US props? I haven’t won a single match against them yet.
I'll try to! Japan dominates that BR range.
Even wikipedia says this plane was the best plane in WW2, but too late to be used.
Wikipedia only says what random people wrote ;).
@@AdamTheEnginerd With that armarmend it could have been used against bombers, but of course there was the 108 with it's big shells which only needed 3 or 4 shots to hunt down a B-17.
Of course everything is about the pilot, I prefer the Ta 152H1 and K4 the most.
Btw, did you know that the G14/AS is better than the normal german G14 because of it's DB 603 compressor which takes more air?
Very nice flying
Thanks m8!
Very impressive gameplay
Thanks mate!
Adam514 we should squad up sometime! I won’t be much help but I’d be good bait XD
I squad with subs often! Feel free to hit me up on Discord (link in more recent videos).
I fought this thing in my ta 152h. Not knowing of it I was overly confident at 9500 mts
152H should have the advantage up there though, but still need to be careful.
Im really enjoying this plane even tho now is 6.3. P-51 Hs seems to turn similar to him.
Hmm G56 turns better than P51H though.
@@AdamTheEnginerd what about G-56 vs griffon spitfires?
@@pedromedeiros4955 Griffon Spitfires will turn better.
Adam think you can do an updated spaded review since it was bumped to 6.3 ; (
It's on my list!
@@AdamTheEnginerd Nice, just hope you can get in one take, that repair cost, is pretty deadly.
@@omarb10legends99 Repair cost doesn't matter to me, don't worry about that.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Sorry, that's just the first thing that comes to mind when I see others fly this plane. Just do what you do 👍
where did you get that data box in the top left?
It's called the "local host".
How to access the "local host":
You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work!
Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT:
-Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila.
Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT):
-Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
THEY ARE GONNA ADD THE MAUS FOR A LIMITED TIME TO RESEARCH AND I CANT DO ANYTHING :((
F.
any chance of some in depth MEC guide for the p47 line? i constantly overheat no matter what i do with mixtures and radiators
That's odd. I do 30-40% radiators and around 90% mixture and it overheats after 1 minute of WEP, then you let it cool for 10s and you can do another minute. How fast does it overheat for you?
it takes a couple minutes but never fully cools back down unless i cut throttle back to around 80%. does 90% mixture work at all alts?
90% works until 7km at least.
Does it overheat faster than in these games?
czcams.com/video/iTMXlpZy798/video.html
czcams.com/video/fIu6UddVi3Y/video.html
Lol basically it was what the Re2005 had been but with a little less turning ability. good job Gaijin. Can never bring in Italian props the right way. There is no reason something like that needed to face anything allies below 5.0. XD
Yup, though people complained way more about Re2005 than this.
@@AdamTheEnginerd it now sits at 6.3, overwhelmed by spits mk24(which now sits at 6.0 lol) and P51Hs, I still haven't found a way to deal with those planes, they seem to be superior in every way...
this fighter plane is perfectly balanced
Sarcastic?
@@AdamTheEnginerd perish the thought, my brother from another mother.
i wish to see you play sim battles!
Maybe one day!
Description said 30% radiators, as in both oil and water radiators?
Yup!
@@AdamTheEnginerd thank you
How do you aim like that. The same leading I do one night in this game doesn't work the other night...
Depends on guns and enemy speed and angle. The necessary lead is different for every situation. I'm not sure how to answer your question.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Sunday night C202N I think with 2 x 20mm and 2 mgs I was flying with stealth belts my angles and lead worked perfectly. Monday night same plane, same leads, same angles. Nada. I don't get this inconsistency in Warthunder.
Well are you missing or hitting and not doing much damage? Air combat is by nature inconsistent, most of an aircraft is non critical components or empty space after all.
@@AdamTheEnginerd I was flying C 205 series 3 both nights. Just looked it up. I barely made contact from identical angles and leading. That's what is throwing me off.
Just had two matches with 6 kills 1 (no fuel no ammo :P repairing on the field) deaths and used the same lead and angles. Inconsistency....
What is it about clipping a spitfire's wings that reduces its turn rate / energy retention in a turn?
I've often heard it said that the elliptical winged spitfires owed their maneuverability to their wings but I never heard if or why that was really the case.
Another great video by the way
That's a good question! So I'll explain without going into the equations and the details (unless you want them).
Let's start with maneuverability. Maneuverability is a function of many characteristics, such as wing loading (mass/wing surface). If we take the same aircraft and simply cut the wing tips off, the wing loading increases which decreases maneuverability or turn time, and that's why a clipped wing Spitfire will invariably turn worse than the same Spitfire but with the original wing. Wing loading is the most important factor in maneuverability.
About Energy Retention (ER) in a turn: a key thing to remember is that when you are pulling 6Gs for example, it means that your wing is producing 6x the weight of the aircraft as lift. Since nothing is 100% efficient, a drawback to the creation of lift is the creation of drag, called induced drag. Induced drag is a function of many things, such as the wing geometry (simplification) and aspect ratio. Wing geometry is the shape of the wing (rectangular, trapezoidal, elliptical, etc), and aspect ratio is the length of the wingspan squared divided by the wing surface. An elliptical wing is the most efficient wing geometry, so anything that isn't elliptical is less efficient. Clipping the wing tips off means that the wing is no longer elliptical, increasing drag and decreasing maneuvering ER. Clipping the wing tips also means that the overall wingspan is shorter, hence reducing aspect ratio, increasing drag and decreasing maneuvering ER.
What you've often heard is that the elliptical wing gives the Spitfire its maneuverability, but in actuality it gave the Spitfire its maneuvering ER. Please forgive the layman narrator in the documentary ;).
Props in game have an aspect ratio of around 5, while gliders have an aspect ratio of 12+. Engineers need to evaluate the weight cost of increasing the wing span against the decrease in drag.
Let me know if something wasn't clear.
Once again, I've learned so much from you. Thank you. (Btw, if you could point me to the equations and details, that would be great :) )
Also, I now know why I always regretted trying to turn fight P-47s in an Fw 190. The huge wings of the P-47 mean that, although it will is a bit of a bathtub, it can easily out turn a 190.
What are the reasons not to have an elliptical wing?
My pleasure!
Equation for induced drag: CDi = CL^2 / (pi*(wing geometry coefficient)*(Aspect Ratio)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift-induced_drag
Yeah the P47 has a lower wing loading than the Fw, that's why it outturns it. The P47 has huge wings because it was meant to be a high altitude fighter.
What is important is not the actual geometry of the wing, it's the lift distribution on the wing. An untwisted elliptical wing produces an elliptical lift distribution, but by twisting a rectangular wing and tapering it, you can mimic the elliptical lift distribution and increase efficiency. So the reasons for not having an elliptical wing are that it takes longer to manufacture, and there are ways to have a simpler geometry with nearly the same efficiency as the elliptical wing.
Adam514 Thank you so much again. In your second-last sentence, what kind of efficiency do you mean?
One of, if not the most OP plane in the game.
It's very good indeed.
u got pretty much the same flightstyle like i do :)
r0nnes Oh really?
yes i mostly fly 109's and if u do upward spirals or circle upward ( with minimum 300-350kmh IAS) u ezily energy fight mustangs thunderbolts and many more planes. i prefer flying in 90° angle to my opponent to energy trap him with high speed level flight and than climb with slightly turning ^^
And BTW u r the only war thunder player ive seen who is using the browsercard except me myself xD (climbrate m/s ; TAS ; IAS etc....) ^^
Only 1 thing i do different, i do not only climb straight for energy trap, i go 90° sideways to my opponent, try yourself it works better than only going straight line and zoom climb ;)
I vary the angle according to relative energies. If you're a lot faster, going 90° (the safe way) may make the enemy wary of following you and he'll just break off. Gotta give hope ;).
yes but i go to same altitude level and my opponent mostly( i would guess 95% of the fights) underestimates my level of speed (cuz i am on same alt and he closers up to me from my side xD )
cuz it gives them the feeling to be able to catch me from the side and go behind me to get some bursts @ me ^^
but if i zoom up straight ahead they brake up way more often and realize the energy trap. (thats just what i experienced in 5 years of air rb )
i even energy trap mig9 lates in p80's like that as u can see here: czcams.com/video/Jv9M2qqQqq8/video.html
I've noticed the opposite tbh. Plus once they commit to the vertical, they can't run away even if they wanted to since they are low on speed.
Nice, surprised you could do that to a Mig9L, apparently it has one of the best 7.0 acceleration and climb.
i hate how you play decently every match, even if the you lose, greetings
I still make mistakes though. Greetings.
Can you spot the ground pounder at 4:40 ? lol
Euh I can't?
@@AdamTheEnginerd I think it's actually at 4:48 you can see a guy shooting below your right wing
Hmm all I see is ground fire.
Ah the nice time it wasn't 6.3 WITH 30k repair
I think it still had the repair cost, but yeah. It does deserve 6.0 though.
@@AdamTheEnginerd it does. I'm like level 79, and it's extremely easy to kill in my P51H. It feels as if my P-51H did everything better, maybe except armament... It shouldn't be like that AND pricier
@@AdamTheEnginerd by the way will you do a vid on the Spitfire F Mk 24?
@@samuellatta6774 Turns better with better armament, and unlimited WEP.
It's on my list!
G56 is now at 6.0...
It deserves it.
@@AdamTheEnginerd But it not deserve 40K for repairs when something like P-51H is more than half cheaper in cost of repair.
How many meters you set your guns at ?
400m (description).
it looks so easy when im watching you :D, but it isnt y.y
G56 is pretty easy though haha.
@@AdamTheEnginerd the plane doesnt matter you are awesome in anything
Italian more Bf109
Because the italian part you lose
I don't understand what you mean?
@@AdamTheEnginerd i talk italian planes are make with pizza because this
the G56 are good because the german part me are talking bad the italian part no the german part
Yes me are never plau WT more the italia are much memes how the Iar80c he are the best italian because he are romenian kkkk
@@AdamTheEnginerd PS: play with iar80c please
I don't have it unfortunately.
Isn't it simply OverPowred?
It deserves 5.7 in my opinion.
:)
what? are you human aiming bot?
Haha thanks for the praise! My aim wasn't that impressive in this one though.
How to dogfight Japanese aircraft
Avoid it!