The Controversial Collapse of FC Barcelona
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The Controversial Collapse of FC Barcelona
The Controversial Collapse of FC Barcelona
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As someone who got into football because of that Barca team from 2007 to 2008 under Frank Rijkaard and then Peps evolution of that team, its just sad to see all the BS going on. You want football to be beautiful, you want wins to be earned and teams to grow, and to see this team go from one of the greatest teams to this spiraling cascade of debt is sad. Its so easy to say invest in the youth, work towards the future with an identity and philosophy, but the amount of money weve spent and finanical hell we are in, the club deserve it for not planning better for chosing short fixes for long term problems
Fantastic comment my friend!
@@Vizeh Vizeh, I don't think you've fully grasped the situation at all at this point in time, as the English media have heavily exaggerated the situation at hand.
Barca being 'charged' isn't the same as them being convicted. Charged means accused, and as of now there's no evidence in favor of them bribing the refs.
What Laporta has done so far isn't 'corruption' as many people are led to believe. He has actually eased Barcelona's finances, and has gained an all time high net profit this season in Barcelona's history.
Vizeh, I have to say that you've lost some of my respect for you with this video. For a while I've seen you as a great reliable analyst, but this video, and particurally the thumbnail showcases a premature conclusion, that will lead many neutrals into believing that Barca under Laporta is a corrupt banter club, yet that couldn't be farther from the truth.
Bartomeu has blood on his hands. You can't convince me he wasn't a double agent.
Barca always had blood on their hands and I’m saying this As Atletico fan yes, Real Madrid is our rival. Barca actually angers me more.
If Barca cheat they a frauds and everything they achieve cuz of that should be demolish FACKS
Hey Vizeh, I just played FIFA 16 again for the nostalgia and while scrolling through the leagues I noticed something. In Serie A I saw Chievo Verona and wondered what happened to them, then I found out that the club no longer exists. Could you do a video about the history of Chievo Verona?
That is a great idea, thank you!
Yes I'd love to see a video on this ❤
@@Vizeh Np, great content you’re doing since last year. Keep up the good work
Short answer is that they had financial problems during covid that got them expelled from serie B
I miss 2009-2012 Barca, They were by far the greatest team of all time, Their tiki taka, Alongside with their devastating attack was always beautiful to watch. Sad how everything changed.
Respect 2015 Barca my bro haha
@@Vizeh Yessir, 2015 aswell.
Greatest team of all time? No. Madrid 3 peat was much better.
@@BigKahuna.even barca had 2 peat almost 3 peat too
@@MysticFnaticzkey word "almost"
The decline was ugly,bad things kept following one after the other.
But certain things are very unclear among the general public.
- The new camp nou budget was allocated seperately and the stadium revenue will be enough to repay the money that has been put in.
- The squad is very well balanced in every areas and signs are it will be very good season both domestically and in ucl
-The majority of the assets that were sold were non profitable for the club but only a certain % of them is sold which means club is still in control of them
- The negreira case has been blown out of proportion by certain officials within laliga to put the current board under pressure. These are just allegations which are unproven and its been a year since it began and there has been no evidence about it. The public isnt even waiting till court proceedings and already called them guilty.
-The club broke full season attendance records(all time club history) at camp nou last season
-The club also generated record profits of 304 million euros last season.
-Registration of players became a problem because of strict laws of laliga wage cape which made us dependent on cash injections but by next season,it wont be the same case.
The future is bright for the club.
Then send them the info they want? Just like man city they are obstructing cuz they know they are guilty.
@@mr.sushi2221they already sent everything they asked and also brought evidence of the services offered by negreira with counseling but people choose to ignore that and at this point they are just asking Barcelona to declare themselves guilty when clearly they are innocent
@@mr.sushi2221 Bro,the technical reports have already been presented by barca. The case of corruption was over before they turned it into a case of bribery.Corruption means alterations were carried out on the field which was unproven in this case. Lack of evidence forced them to turn into bribery case. Bribery means attempting to alter and for that court proceedings are going on and the club is very calm about it.
The case was blown out of proportion by certain enemies within the laliga board.
Defending yourself doesnt make one guilty.
Hoping for the best for you bro!
Type yu 😅uuuu😅uuu😅uuuuuu😅uuuuuuuuuuu
I have been a Bayern fan for my whole life. But what got me into football was that 2015 Barcelona team. I remember sitting in front of my tv as a kid and I couldn’t believe just how good this team was and especially the legendary MSN trio. This team made playing football look so easy. It’s sad to see how Barcelona developed over the last years.
Lol how old are you?
Bayern fans aren't allowed here on behalf of every Barca fan
@@mr.sushi2221 I'm 21 and I grew up on the 2015 Barca team lol
@@mr.sushi222119, I have always been a Bayern fan, but I really got into watching football regularly relatively late
@@VizehLmao
A true fan will be behind his club no matter what!
100%
Yes, i have been a fan of barca since i could remember, i still am today, and i will die as a culer, the last few years have been difficult, i hope we can get back to the top
Yeah!
Unless it's a game against Eintracht Frankfurt.
Exactly bro even if we get relegated
Always Barça 💙❤️
I’m a Real Madrid fan despite my pfp being a tourist in France. We NEED Barça for us to stay competitive. They keep us in check and force us to become greater and I think we do the same for them. It would be a shame for them to be kicked from any football tournament.
Never knew so many Spanish fans watched my videos haha
Im glad you are sane, I see alot of real madrid fans begging ti ban barca from football, not knowing that, that would hurt real madrid not only barca
one thing some need to understand that the Barca-Real rivalry is just that a rivalry, its mutual respect. if there was no respect to the others achievements than Barca and Real wouldnt even compare them selves to each other. its two clubs that have been playing on, more or less, the same level for close to a 100 years now.
@@Vizehwe need to watch our rivals how is going with them why not 😂
La Liga is going to become like the Eredivisie
Clubs always move in cycles and during a down cycle this club my club has unfortunately been insanely mismanaged. The club thought to spend their way out of trouble but dug themselves a deeper hole. The negreira case whether true or not is a tough one you need to be able to prove that Barca directly benefited from ref decisions.
That is true, all and all I think it will be resolved but it’s a sad situation to see
It’s correct what you say, but Barca is struggling very long now. Bayern had a hard season when Robben and ribbery left. And the next season they won the champions league. So Barca is just not the club anymore what it used to be . Wich is sad
(Haven't watched the video yet) I think Barca's main mistake was relying on Messi to do everything. I know he's beyond amazing (Messitastic Maybe) but one of the things that made Barca amazing was that they had a complete team. Great in almost all factors, especially 2008-9 and 2014-15 with MSN
To be fair if I had Messi in my team i'd pray everyone on him too haha
They won 1 ucl n were SUPPOSEDLY better then Ronaldo bale n benz lol
All these historic clubs being ruined by horrible owners/ presidents
Man united, Barcelona, Ajax, ect.
Sad to see
I think that barca have a great future. They have such good mix of youngsters and experienced players and can compete for the laliga and the champions league. The negreira thing was an old story resurfacing again. Its always "charged with" or "accused of" with no actual proof. Let the proof come and we can decide. And i think for the first time since 2015 barca actually have a better overall team than madrid. But still ther is a long way to go for barca to be "juggernauts" in europe again. They should be getting consistently to ucl quarters or semis at least this year.
Do you not hear the facts? You are delusional.
@@mr.sushi2221what facts? The facts that the madrid media makes up? Cuz the spanish courts have found no "facts" proving barca as bribing and rigging matches, barca has one of the most exciting youth players, and future team, you are delusional to think otherwise
@@krazyskill5422 When you've been charged of a crime, you are assumed to be innocent until proven guilty. By the end of a criminal trial, you will either be declared "guilty" or "not guilty." Technically, the court never declares someone "innocent" because it is not necessary to prove actual innocence in order to be acquitted. The prosecution's job is to convince the jury that the defendant is guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt." Going the extra step of proving actual innocence is not required in order to avoid conviction.
In some cases, evidence will arise that proves actual innocence; programs like The Actual Innocence Claim Policy and Protocol in Missouri endeavor to minimize false convictions by providing evidence that proves innocence. However, it still remains a part of our country's justice system that you do not need to be proven innocent in order to be declared "not guilty."
When you've been charged of a crime, you are assumed to be innocent until proven guilty. By the end of a criminal trial, you will either be declared "guilty" or "not guilty." Technically, the court never declares someone "innocent" because it is not necessary to prove actual innocence in order to be acquitted. The prosecution's job is to convince the jury that the defendant is guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt." Going the extra step of proving actual innocence is not required in order to avoid conviction.
In some cases, evidence will arise that proves actual innocence; programs like The Actual Innocence Claim Policy and Protocol in Missouri endeavor to minimize false convictions by providing evidence that proves innocence. However, it still remains a part of our country's justice system that you do not need to be proven innocent in order to be declared "not guilty."
In conclusion, no one needs to prove that you are innocent in order to avoid conviction for the crime. Our criminal justice system does not require proof that you are innocent but rather, that the jury have no reasonable doubts about whether or not you committed the crime. If they do have doubts, you will be declared "not guilty" and charges will be dropped, regardless of whether or not you were actually innocent or guilty. This rule serves to protect the accused from being convicted unjustly. It is a much more difficult task to prove actual innocence than to prove there is room for reasonable doubt.
Just read this idiot.
Barcelona doesn't have a better team than real Madrid
Facts of?
I've seen other commenters tackle many points already, such as the Camp Nou renovation being self sufficient, so to avoid redundancy, I'll go into some points that I didn't see anyone address
In terms of the debt, the club announced 3 days ago that the debt is now down to €552m after a record year in all financial aspects. Laporta (current president) started his first term in 2003. Barça were in absolute financial ruin and in huge debt so similar to the current situation. He brought it back from the dead and created the infamous 2006-2012 era in the meantime so fans trust that he wouldn't make decisions that would ruin the club in the future.
Little note about the financial levers, the big one everyone talks about as "selling their soul" is selling part of the TV rights. That was 'sold' off for a maximum of 25 years but Barça can buy it back if they choose to and have the finances to do so
So yes it's pretty much just rented out
The situation isn't great, sure, but it's not as bad as you think. They're in no way in danger of bankruptcy as of now.
Edit: forgot an important point. Here it is
As you mentioned, Bartomeu got raided as part of an investigation that found that he had made payments to a social media company to write reports and spread fake/out of context stories in order to ruin people's images and make them out to be the villains.
Those people were massive figures in Barça as a whole, including Messi, Xavi, Laporta, Piqué, Pep, etc, etc, etc. All because they weren't on the same page as him
Bartomeu is one of the most hated figures in Barça history and it's sad that someone who didn't care about the club ended up running it's name through the mud and lose a lot of the neutrals respect
Sorry for the essay lol
It’s okay, you’re one of the more knowledgeable Barca fans, which is a breath of fresh air.
That’s a fantastic comment man, that helps people including myself understand it much more! Wish you well!
@@nickrod7627 that's unfortunately what comes with supporting elite clubs, you get so many people who know nothing about the club after the full time whistle goes but sometimes they're the most vocal
@@Vizeh I'm glad to hear that, and thank you so much
Btw, congratulations on your newborn bro I hope the Mrs is all good and I hope your family has a blessed life ahead
Thing is, I don't even blame you (English footy fans) for being misinformed because the English media is absolutely atrocious at covering this situation and non English stories as a whole. I saw the telegraph posted an article about this a few days ago and headline alone was made up and clickbaity to make it seem worse
Wouldn't say it better myself. Barça is on the right path now. Is difficult with the fake accusations, but it will rise up eventually. @Fares_SH hipe you're having a good day
I'm a Barca fan pretty much all my life, I love the club with all my heart.. but the people in charge of Barca have been shady as fuck since like forever. It is really sad and it makes me mad that the club that I adore is led by people like that.
If it means anything, I think 90% of all elite clubs are something something shady lol
@@VizehHow old are you?
@@Marex5341older than u 💀
@@Liamnoen You havent even uploaded a video for 3 months
@@Liamnoenbest answer 😂
I got into football after seeing clips of Xavi and Barca's tiki taka football as a kid. That team encapsulated everything Cruyff believef, about playing well being more important than the scoreboard. It felt like everything slowly fell apart after that Neymar transfer to PSG though - the funds were massively mismanaged and there was no plan for what the team would look like going forward. The insane, unsustainable contracts players got put on under Bartomeu financially crippled the club when we lost all the income during Covid.
By far the worst thing to happen to the club was Bartomeu. Both the incoming and senior players got put on insane, unsustainable contracts and the club ended up getting crippled by the lack of income during Covid. The strict financial regulations of La Liga have made the issues far more dramatic though in terms of registering contracts etc.
The football-side of things have gotten much better under Xavi (and Laporta et al.) and i think we've done good transfer business the last two seasons, alongside plenty of massively talented, homegrown players. Even as a Barca fan though, the Negreira case is shady and super concerning - best case is the reports are found (or at least it's linked to Bartomeu rather the club), but hope it finalises asap because rn it's a massive black mark on the club.
Now you know CR is the goat because messi was cheating at Barcelona.
Amazing comment, thank you for being here man! Wish you well!
@@dimitar297😂😂 so being the best is cheating, the irony
@@TheGame4eva if the referees were paid off to protect him the whole time yes that's cheating even if he didn't know he was favored. It only takes 2-3 calls a game to swing a match result.
It's not called tiki taka cruyff system all the casuals say that because it's called positional play or total football and cruyff and pep hate tiki taka the Spanish commentators invented this saying. The zonal space game is more to the system then cute passing pointless possession it's deployed to waste time when winning but passing sidewards and backwards when you can play forward look at clip of vidal at bayern pep goes mental you'll see what I mean.
I have been a Barcelona fan for 8 years, and that will never stop as long as I’m alive. Barca have been through worse than this yet we are still here and that will never stop, FC Barcelona are a family, and like a family, we will stick together thick or thin. And when we get proven innocent we will get back to our prime. VISCA BARCAA !! ❤️💙
Hi Liam, I was introduced to football by Messi and Barcelona of 2009. And being from India, where professional football isn’t a top sport, I was always more of a seasonal fan till around 2014-15, but I remember always following Barça and Messi as a kid and the current state of the club hurts me. But I hope dawn follows this dark shadow on my club…
Can I be honest here ? 7-8 mil in almost 2 decades seems high for referee reports BUT also seems low for bribing ... I remember sometime ago there was a quote from a Barca official (or former ) that was “we paid that to make sure the judgments from the referees were unbiased “... now if you ask me if this is all they paid (no more money through other shady means ) then I have to say I kinda believe it because think about it , couldn’t a bigger club like Real Madrid pay more than that ???
I get that, the number is what causes a lot of questions in fairness
I mean 7-8 million in the span of 20 years is 500k per year. I'm no judge, but to me seems more like embezzlement from Laporta and Rosell/Bartomeu but we should wait for the trial to be fair
Them having won the league last year, I think that things were starting to look on the up for the team but then this happens and suddenly it looks like they're only getting deeper and deeper into financial debt...
But all these things were being brought up back then too. In fact, what we read now is actually not even "new" news, many of these things are recycled from 2022.
Besides, what is also always really interesting about this "Negreira" case/news, is that the Spanish (Madrid) media always drop something about Negreira (sometimes not even new information or just speculation) out of nowhere almost every time Real Madrid drops points/performs bad and/or Barcelona picks up points/performs well. The timing is always really suspicious...
Last of all; the recent news about the Negreira case will also be pretty much useless; the reason the case was reopened was because the judge ruling that Negreira, as vice-president of the CTA (referees comitee) is a public functionary, when by law FIFA prohibits any governing body (like the Spanish FA and the CTA) to be a public organisation, they must be a private organisatiin. So by definition, to comply by the laws, Negreira could not ever be a public functionary. If he indeed was, as per the judge, that would mean that the whole Spanish FA and other organisations with Spanish football are actually acting contrary to FIFA's laws, meaning that the whole Spanish footballing FA's/system are at fault...
The club is actually stable now comapred to a couple of years ago. The negreira case has been investigated for over a year and no real evidence has been shown of any wrong doing. Btw, the new Camp Nou will not cost 1.5 billion but rather $414 million (€360 million). The 1.5 billion is for all of the Spai Barca which includes the new stadium and many more facilities.
LMFAO it's still in the evidence gathering stage. there are PILES of evidence, fool. WHY TF you think they paid the VP of the CTA? Fool
Hi, Vizeh, i'm a Barcelona fan from 2003 onwards (i was barely a kid, but the things i saw where enough to love that team, and having a family who loves Barça helps😂) i cant tell you that the future of Barça is not as bleak at its seems:
1. Barça where a pretty stable club, their financial problems begun when Bartomeu misused the teams finances to make absurds deals which made the team collapse.
2. Laporta, the new president, is a business specialist. He knew that the club couldn't wait until their overall finances where at its best so he decided to risk it by selling their rights and getting loans with long term payouts with different partnerships. It was necessary for the club to rise up.
3. Almost all players from the Bartomeu era that where signed with absurd clauses are gone. Dembele, Coutinho, Malcom... And many more. Plus this year the amount of players on loan or sold are a lot, while the signings where either free or on loan (Oriol Romeu is the only one they bought) and players from la masia are now in the first team. This year's team are youthful and balanced with some veteran players. Is a team with great potential to become a beast again in Europe in a future.
4. Is also sad that Barça's last UCL win was on 2015, but remember, many teams don't have near UCL cups as Barça and many are on worst situations than ours. Speaking of which, A big club or country on a losing streak is something that happens more often than people think (Brazil has more world cups than any other country but when Germany won 7-1 against them, was an amazing loss, but it happens) Barça where on they lowest, but they're rising up, a renewed defense, midfield and a promising forward, only the future will tell but it looks good.
5. Last but not least is the Negreira Case. Even though I'm a Barça fan i can understand why people are concerned abou the accusations and whatnot, but remember, is just that, "accusations" with no proof or anything. Last year the court declared Barça innocent on the payment on Negreira and UEFA said that Barça will not participate if found guilty, but there is no evidence on the Negreira case so Barça is participating right now on the UCL, and now they accused Barça of bribery to the referees. Those are simple accusations with no substance. Why would Barça bribe referee and yet loose many La Liga cups, because they say that started from 2015 till now and Barça lost many La Liga if you bribing referees it should give you victory but many of the referees who was "supposed" to make Barça win matches, where there when Barça lost La Liga. The 2016-2017 la Liga was won by Real Madrid and the 2019-2020 la Liga too. Real Madrid has more La Liga wins than Barça but is Barça the one bribing referees? Look I'm not saying that is Real Madrid fault or anything, but the Negreira case conveniently came when Barça was wining La Liga last year, but when Barça was loosing, nobody talked about it, which is really convenient.
Well i don't want to talk about the things happening in the spain La Liga (which are many, believe me) but i want to say is that don't believe everything is told on the news. Barça is not perfect, but the club doesn't need to bribe no one to win, and i hope that when the investigation will prove nothing (because there's really no case at all TBH) we'll only see Barça as to what it is. A club with a bright future who the media just wants to put down.
Ps: sorry about that long writing Vizeh i enjoy your content, I'm just showing you the light about a team people try to judge often without really understanding it. 😂😂😂 Keep with your good work and congrats on becoming a father.
Yeah, also about finances, aside from loans and loose of revenue, the club in 2 years has cut 300 milions in wages so it's not like "selling the future" they just made an investment to reestructure tha team.
Also if Negreire case is true the the referees would have been paid not much more than their actual salaries (makes no sense).
Expecting the video essays apologizing for believing fake news already
Good point about the UCL. People tend to get used to it, especially nowadays with social media, and make fun of clubs for not winning the CL for 3 years or 5 or 8 or 10 years.
This is mostly coming from the "new" internet troll generation; especially those who are really young and grew up seeing Madrid win 4 CL's in 5 years and chose that club as "their club". They don't know that Madrid couldn't even make a semi-final after the 2002 UCL, up until 2011, and only won it again 12 years later in 2014!
Barca had to wait 14 years (1992 - 2006).
Bayern and Liverpool had to wait decades.
Juventus has been in finals so often, but still 1996 is their last one.
Again, people have been so spoiled, because of "recent" succes (Barca winning 4 CL's in 9 years, Madrid winning 5 CL's in 9 years), that they almost see it as "normal" to win it so often and see waiting more than 3 years now as a "failure". Teams can have a "success" period, but it will be followed by a difficult period, especially with the state of football now where a lot more powerhouses exist.
Barcelona have not been convicted yet, because they just begin to open the trial. This narrative that they have been charged & convicted is werid af.
The charged narrative is another attempt to smear barcas name, they are trying to charge barca with bribery of a civil servent, which is so stupid, because negriera is not a civil servant, its just a waist of time at tis point
Can we appreciate how much effort he puts in to making our balls giggle
What a comment
@@Vizehyea it is
Im fairly new to Football but the reason i got into it was bc of the rebuild barcelona started going through with Xavi. I like the potential storyline of an old player saving his old club as a coach . The Bribery charge could be the final nail in the coffing seeing as how tight of a spot the club has been financially. i’m hopeful that it can be proven as fake but i can’t see a reasonable way to justify paying a third party in order to pay the referee for reports. It simply makes no sense, why would they go about it in such a fishy way if they weren’t doing anything illegal. It sucks if this is what sinks the club bc Laporta and his board has done an amazing job given the state of the club when they took over.
It's fake. Madrid media is powerful. Make use of your eyes. We've been robbed of league titles numerous times
football is not a disney movie with a storyline silly
Financially it may not be true, but the one thing keeping the spirit of the club alive right now imo is the fact Barcelona still has the best women's team in the world
Honestly though, most people don't actually give a real damn about women's football, and I'm 100% sure that the spirit of the club is not kept afloat by the women's team. Yes, they're very good, they just won the UWCL, but most Barcelona fans don't even see the team, and only hear very loose things about it, like the aforementioned UWCL win. So really, the club is mostly kept afloat simply because they have a great history, and with such a high local, national and global influence, fans are likely to never abandon the club, hoping for a new UCL triumph, and many more will join just because they're objectively a good team, but the women's team will not have much of an impact in that, at least imo.
7:30 pjanic was a kind of swap deal, Arthur Melo went to juventus for a similar fee
malcom was sold for the same money to zenit just 1 year after signing
andre gomes was initially signed for 35 millions+ 20 millions add-ons(of course the deal never reached 55 millions, we know that clubs usually include bonuses like winning ucl or baloon dor), and sold him for 30 millions to everton
ofc these dont change the fact how awful barcelona's transfer policy was under Bartomeu's rule
i love this club.
i love the energy the youth the history the mentality
but recent decisions really make it hard
really if you publicly claim to be a barca fan you get laughed at
I still think there's respect for them, I still like them more than Real Madrid
And who gives a shit if they laugh at your club? There's no club which wins all of its matches.
If you like Barcelona, Madrid, Spurs or whatever you shouldn't be thinking of what other people think
😂😂😂 Chelsea fans might say the same, but that doesn't mean they should give attention to that. If you love your club, is all that matters.
Calma. We are not worried about this case at all. They always try to attack us when we r doing good. We will show them why we are the biggest club in the world
Sad fact is that Barca were a great team back in the day up until 2015 it felt.
It’s sad that there success will always be clouded over because of corruption
even though i dont really watch la liga anymore i grew up on the old el clasicos. hope they dont get banned as they have to be one of the most historic clubs in the game
Its sad that 2016-2021 in the last peak years of messi there was no real project winning team around him, i think thats maybe the worst tragedy.
Honestly I'm so lost on how to feel about them at the moment, for a lot of my childhood they were probably the best club in the world, they were literally the dream team, but to see all that tainted is just confusing. Like you could watch them play and it was clear they could dominate literally anyone, so why did they need to pay refs and fix matches? It doesent make any sense. It's a bit like if Usain Bolt broke the sprint record, then decided to start doping. Like it's just completely unnecessary and ruins their entire legacy, even things that they achieved legitimately will never be seen the same way again.
Football is very fast so this will likely be forgotten very quickly i'll be honest
@@Vizehlol no, no it won't.
Ask Juventus fans.
@@melanineyedocthat just Juventus
This Negreira case is honestly hilarious to me. I have watched that league for years and this allegations are just plainly stupid to me.
President of La Liga is a Real Madrid fan, a declared one, and that shouldn’t be a problem if he actually worked around his own fanatism and trait every club as equal. This has not been the case since Bartomeu left the club (doing serious economical desitions before he left), because Laporta rejected the “offer” from Tebas to sign for CVC which (by the words of TEBAS HIMSELF) would have allowed Messi to be renewed because supposedly it gave our club a lot of money which proved to be false cause a lot of clubs that signed that crap are struggling right now and Barcelona not signing started all this mess about inscriptions and shit like that.
Since this Tebas has been the enemy of the club, in the Negreira case he literally presented false evidence and the guy has been really persistent about a case that has zero proofs of being literally a thing, this is not Tebas wanting justice or whatever, this is a Vendetta for going against his power and now we are suffering from his unending tantrum. Why he allowed all the Bartomeu waste? Where where this regulations when Barcelona was wasting money on Griezzman or putting of market salaries on some players? The real reason behind all this trash is that Barcelona represents way more than just a football club in Spain and the presidency of Laporta is a threat for the ones in power that don’t really want a guy that is on favor of some political stuff about the independence of certain regions in Spain… That is why this problems started when Barcelona finished the Rosell/Bartomeu era, Tebas has explicitly said a bunch of times that Laporta should quit the charge for the allegations that are not even proved! He is not expecting a veredict, he just want this case to be as big as it can to destroy the Laporta faction and regaing the control of FC Barcelona like he had on all the years that Bartomeu was in power.
We are NOT descending 😂😂😂, the fact that some people think about that being a possibility shows that Tebas has succeded. There is NO EVIDENCE OF BARCELONA PAYING ANY REFEREES, NO EVIDENCE OF EVEN TRY TO FIX ANY MATCH, AND THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE ABOUT SPORTS CORRUPTION.
The latest news were literally about how they changed the topic of the allegations to (cohecho en español) and that just shows how desperate they are cause for that allegation to even exist Negreira should have been a public worker which he isn’t… So if I have to take a “”wild”” guess I predict that this is going nowhere again.
This is the most ridiculous drama I ever heard and it really shows how gullible some people are, 8 million for 17 years of paying the refs? How that even makes sense, they are an extremely big entity and they are not precisely poor, this money is obviously some dude that robbed the club and tried to hide it by falsifying documents… At least that has some sense because BELIEVE ME when I say that the refs haven’t been supportive at all in those years.
So no, in summary I’m not worried at all, just incredibly mad with how reactionary and ignorant some football fans are.
My thoughts exactly as soon as he said we are facing bankruptcy i stopped watching
@@TheGameMachineYT😂😂😂😂 dude your pfp name is a bit like mine. But don't judge them for believing those allegations. The truth will come out sooner or later even the Barça club aren't worried about it. Is like the Amber Heard/Johnny Depp case. The truth will come out and they will see that they were wrong
The Negreira thing is still being investigated
The Debt is actually 552 million Euros according to the club itself (certainly a more trustworthy source than the Athletic and the Telegraph)
The stadium renovations are going just fine, and the cost is a lot, but we’ll move on from it.
Our finances are in a far better condition than when Laporta first came in.
I like your content mate, but this one’s not very good.
Everyone else is saying the opposite. Typically when everyone is saying something you look stupid to believe the 1 liar.
@@mr.sushi2221 The club itself has said that the debt is lower mate, that’s the club, not the Catalan media or anything.
@@thefutbolfollower8326 you always believe everything you hear and disregard facts?
@@mr.sushi2221 I believe the club more than certain British news outlets, nothing wrong with that, is there?
They have to report to investors and club members So yes,@@mr.sushi2221
I don't think the people who run these teams understand what a major impact their fuck ups have on people's lives. It's a weird feeling seeing this happen as Barcelona was an unstoppable giant growing up. I never actually watched that much european cub football as a kid because I'm an American. They're might have been a way to watch here in the early 2010s but I was a child lol. But even despite that I knew how big Barcelona was and how important messi was because of FIFA.
i love to see this 😍
I enjoy your vids mate but i feel like you did Zero Research on this one...like so many numbers dont add up, Bartomeu is NOT the current president, he is the main reason for this situation and you didnt mention this man once. and you didnt talk about the resurgence of the Team this year with a lot of exciting new talent and new management which is actually trying to rectify the situation.
Also they released their financial situation a few days ago with a clear roadmap to get back on track. And also, the Negreira case so far hasnt provided a single shred of evidence, yet you dont talk about it from both sides but only regurgitate what is being said in the media...bit disappointing icl
😂i like ur videos but as a barca fan,this video is a bs,you show pictures of the game chelsea v barca in UCL,but negreira was the head of spanish referees,think about it for a second,he worked only in spain only for Spanish fa,he didnt Worked for UEFA,and also,every single club pays for technical things like that,just because we are barca,and we had a debt,it was pretty easy to attack us,but yeah i think ur still doing good job with ur videos but you should deffinitely read more about it
Edit:Also,bartomeu is not our president for almost 3 years now😀
Lol, "collapse" is too strong, reduction is more like it, poor leadership from Barto is the main issue. Even then ,Barca have a solid future still, despite the wishes of some.
Yeah the current team has a very good foundation with the insane young talent they have coming from La Masia plus outside players like Jules Kounde, Frenkie De Jong, and most importantly Pedri.
As a Barca fan it’s been tough the last 5 ish years but I hope we can can sort this out and get back
You won LaLiga after all of this so you should be ok haha
@@Vizeh hope so
Could we get a video on the state of Spanish football? I'd say the main reasons for Barcelona doing so many economic 'levers' is coz of the strict ffp restrictions.
And its not just Barcelona it effects every team in la liga except real Madrid (not trying to be salty)
Teams are having to sell their best players cheap just to generate income to increase the wage cap
The whole league has been declining terribly
Real Madrid are extremely well balanced, making very few signing and taking few risks. They'll spend like 60 mil in one transfer window on one player and get rid of 2-3 players. This window was a major exception with Bellingham, but even then the other signings were either cheap or free and there were some massive players let go that freed up millions in wages
@@Luis-kv8zc they were ready to break all records and sign mbappe not too long ago...
@@danielnaidoo2078 yeah and not sign anyone else. You can check how much Real spend in transfers compared to everyone else and you'd be shocked
One thing I do want to correct is if they are found guilty, UEFA could ban them from European Competition, meaning the Champions League, Europa League, and Europa Conference League. They would not be banned from La Liga, as that is not UEFA's jurisdiction.
Barca just won La Liga 2022/23 having the best defense of Europe. You could say that in “Europe” on Barca having a big downfall from grace but to be honest compared to other teams , Barca is still the 2nd team that won the most European trophies in the last 15-16 years lmao. Only Real Madrid has won more. If anything , the biggest downfall is probably perhaps United after Ferguson left , 10 years without a Premier League title.
I really cannot imagine how it must feel to be a Barca fan or even a neutral now. As a Madrid lifelong fan it’s a great time to be alive 😂 watching Barca suffer is always great. But there is a line, when Barca could be in risk of disappearing or even being so diminished that they get relegated or such. The thought is terrifying. The rivalry is fun because Barca is a formidable nemesis, it’s hard to think of Madrid without Barca.
Don't worry Barça is not suffering that much 😂😂 our future is bright. The only team without loosing in LaLiga is us, we have great potential and our Rivals should be wary of us.
Ps: is all with respect, don't worry. Hope you're having a great day
Remind me who won the league with double digit points last year?
Barcelona went from winning 6 trophies in year with the most beautiful style of football ever to being bankrupt and struggle even being able to sign players
Hey vizeh. It's pretty sad to see what has come of barcelona but the thing that worries me more than them buying out the regs is that there are still a bunch of kids that keep denying it saying there's no proof altho7gh the only reason nothing can happen is because of spains laws and statues of limitation.
Also can you please make a video soon about southend united, we have a game on Tuesday but we have a court order on the 4th which could mean the club won't exist anymore and the owner (Ron martin) wins as he wanted to use the land the football owns into housing for he's business.
My guy is pumping out videos faster than i can add them to watch later
Got another on Tuesday my bro!
@@Vizeh Oh for god's sake man xD
Barca is to big of a club to even collapse. I mean it's a good video but nothing will happen to Barca.
I mean we just won La liga and are going strong.
to be honest, i am a madrid fan but this is bad whatever the ban is, if its 1 or 2 yrs they should loan out the starting 11 for 1-2 yrs and the clubs acquiring the players should pay full wages for the players and be responsible for their actions, so barça can get their way back up playing football again
Barcelona has some of the most epic stadiums, I have it in lego at my room and I aprecciate it before sleeping every day, but the lads still prefer wasting all the money on a better stadiums than a 100K CAPACITY Stadium, when they should be wasting in players 💀
What i stand with is, its not the clubs fault, it was the people within the club who started all this. Its a guarantee to have Corruption in sports, there could be clubs cheating without us even knowing rn. Its unfortunate really that we can never avoid Corruption in our beloved sport.
As a Barca fan since birth and my uncle introduced me to football with seeing Barca playing it's painful to see the club I love, had jerseys with them, and put my time watching them now having to deal with problems with corruption and could be ban with the problems with bankruptcy. It just breaks my heart and yes it's true about fans only caring about the pitch as I've been watching with other fans in discord they just care success and not about our issues. I just hope Barcelona aren't actually guilty and could face bankruptcy Because this will be Heartbreaking. I've been seeing Barca suffer and I cried in the Liverpool, Roma, And Bayern 8-2 which I didn't want to go to school the next day and then Messi leaving Barcelona. I think the problem is the Presidents of Barcelona who caused us in these issues. I just hope one day we can lift that UCL with the kids we have soon to be class
Thank you Juan, wish you well!
i miss the og barca, but i still love my club even after all that has happened such as, 8-2, messi leaving, spending too much money on players that ended up flopping, and everything else. i still love barca.
I like Barca too, I’ve been to Camp Nou twice now
I feel like you should make a video on Olympique Lyon they are currently last in ligue 1 and haven’t got a win yet
Speaking on the corruption scandal, the most likey scenario is that the club will get off on a technicality and made to pay a considerable fine. I don't believe the league/federation will exclude one of the biggest clubs in the world from competing, especially at a time taht the league that is losing relevancy when compared to the premier league with each passing year. Now, when it comes to their financial problems, my prediction is that they'll be forced to sell the club to one of the arabian sovereign fund that can afford to pay their short term debt upfront in order to have such a valuable asset. The commercial recognitision of the brand is enough to make it worth the expenditure. It is going to be a depressing couple of years for Barça fans, even though they might still be able to celebrate championships
First, i don't believe there is a case here because this has been going for over a year and is only allegations that lead to nowhere and that it doesn't make sense, it will just be like The Johnny Depp/Amber Heard case.
Second, they can't sell the club, La Liga doesn't allow those things, that's why till now no club has been sold to Arabia in LaLiga, Barça have a plan for their financial problem, don't worry
Man City: And we took that personally
So many iconic clubs in Europe were facing the extinction on top-flight.
Chelsea, Barcelona, Manchester United, and even clubs who were initially 2nd-tiered, but considered as big one due to the consistent European success like Roma, Ajax, and Lyon. All of them were in difficult situations!
You can even do the same thing for Ajax and Lyon!
If drogba's anything to go off of, there was probably matches which were definately unfair
Drogba never forgiven Barca since 09😂
I mean, the first leg was gery unfair aswell, both teams robbed eachother, but i only ever see people talk about the second leg
If the bribes turn out to be true than they got the worst deal ever because for everyone who watched LaLiga especially between 2013 and 2018 knows that in 99% of all controversial ref decisions Barca always got screwed over.
In 2014 on the final matchday alone a very LEGAL Messi goal was disallowed because of "Offside" even though it wasn't. That disallowed goal was the reason why Barca lost LaLiga to Atleti that season.
Further on in 2017 Barca got denied a goal where the ball was 1 meter behind the line which resulted in a 1:1 against Betis. If Barca would have got the 3 points that game I believe they would have had the same amount of points that Real had at the end who won the title that year.
The future of barcelona = They should focus more on Youth products instead of these pointless signings. I don't know whether they "bribed" or not but hopefully it won't damage their finance for long. I think Real madrid is also NOT A SAINT. they also have such cases but as unreported as Barcleona's case here.
The Downfall started when Xavi left Barcelona. After 2015 season they did not win a Single UCL. That was the last season of Xavi in Barca as a player.
“Collapse” when they literally just won the league for the first time in 4 years……the real collapse happened in 2020 bro, they’re on their way back now.
they are struggling
Pretty unfortunate to see them go down like this but you can’t feel sorry for them
I think their lawyers will likely get them out of any real serious trouble in the end
@@Vizeh possibly
Idk if you done a video on kubo yet but if you haven’t it would be nice to see a video on him , always knew he has the potential
Good idea mate!
Barcelona seem like the player in monopoly scraping every bit of money they can to stay in the game
The moral of the lesson is .....just like kanye west , just like Manchester united just like ( jay z and Beyonce one day ) just like Justin Bieber..... and unfortunately even the Ronaldinho that I so truly love..... anybody who gets where they are.....and imagines themselves too big......will eventually collapes...... Ronaldinho is one of the best ever and we remember him fondly.....but real life is 2006 was when he did those things.....since then he's lost everything , been bettayed and arrested and suffered bankruptcy.....dinho right now probably doesn't care how many people rank him in their top 5.....he knows he was just blessed to have the recognition that jay jay okocha also deserved but never got ....and at the end of the day.....its you , your life and your decisions.....this applies to chelsea , barcelona and Manchester united and one day oil city will face waaaaaaaaay worse.....we might think ourselves brilliant.....but yhe world will continue being the world even if you died today....the entire species could be extinct and earth would still be earth😂
At this point in time, we’re seeing some historic clubs (Barca, Chelsea, Ajax) going through serious trouble and it’s not relegation that worries me, it’s them going into a near shallow grave (Rangers style) that worries me the most.
I wonder which one is the most mental
Bro sneaked in Chelsea as historic😂
@@legendarymortarplayer9453 That totally passed me 😂 give it another 50 years.
I dont even need to watch the full video cuz ive already kept an eye on this case for so long
And thing is people try to make things at barca look worse than it is both financially and even morally
Cuz barca aren't as in financial crisis people make it out to be
And even in the Refreee case is gonna be so hard to prove
I honestly dont think theyll be guilty and if they were la liga would lose massive amounts of revenue cuz now they only got 1 big club in madrid but i wouldnt be suprised if the la liga board would be down for that cuz they obviously support madrid but honestly i hope barca dont get found guilty cuz that club has been through too much
PLease keep making these videos love them man
As someone from the other side of the World, I've had a tremendous respect for Barcelona. Especially how much I looked at their history and La Masia, this era of FC Barcelona has made me lose a tremendous level of respect
Barca doesn't need your respect lmao. All of these are allegations and Stop portraying them as guilty there is no final ruling...
Don't worry, like Johnny Depp with Amber Heard, we will prove the innocence
Thank you for continuing to produce awesome content!
Thank you for being here William!
I'd love to see a video about Inter Milan from you. ive been loving the long form content from you, always a joy to watch!
U are quickly becoming my favorite YT channel. A video about how the Colombian national team became goof then got bad again or on the US national team currently sucking would be cool
What a bad take. You're only focusing on the negatives.... You're talking as if they've been found guilty already, which they have not. If you look at the evidence there is nothing....
Chelsea fans been knowing this for the longest time LOL
It's almost like they made a deal with the devil, you get arguably the greatest player of all time and the greatest manager of all time, but after they've both left you will have a massive reckoning.
8:51 how was he allowed to play against Barca if he was on loan from barca?
Despite how great Barcelona is as an institution, I think they should face the proper legal penalties for bribery (even though they likely won't). For years, the La Liga has been held back by its biggest teams who take a majority of its profits and now seemingly have had sporting decisions go their way. The La Liga needs to become a fair competition again so that it can become more competitive and interesting to watch.
You can't face a penalty of something you didn't commit. And i hope this clears out soon, like people were accusing Johnny Depp and now they're admitting they were wrong
@@TheGame4eva There is pretty substantial proof man, It's less of a Johnny Depp case and more of a Mason Greenwood. Like I said, they have to face the penalties if found guilty.
Bartolomeu and Rossell did destroy Barças economy, not only with weird transfers, but also amazing salaries.
Honestly, I don’t agree with kicking Barcelona out of the Champions league. I think having some of there titles taken away is a fair punishment (if they get found guilty). I don’t think it’s fair for this current generation squad have to face punishment for what the club did under previous era.
2007 to 2016 Barca team was crazy but now It’s hard to watch a team that once ruined the world and now no more money
I dont know y barca decided to match fix during their greatest era. Now would have been more of an appropriate time lol
nothing will happen of the charges, the outcome will be exactly the same as for man city. Barca has insane traction to football in general and uefa would risk too much by penalizing them even if the evidence of the charges will come out and support the claims. As for barcas state its really insane that they started the renovation of camp nou in their most desperate financial state of the clubs history lol
Barcelona will never die as far as La Masia is there it will not 💙❤️
Barcelonas Collapse i think won't last long and this charge won't do anything to them annoyingly cos its big club mentality :(
barca pr is strong enough to not make this a big deal.
This is my club, this where i derive my love for the game. And yeah it's be embroiler in controversy, but it's been mostly the bartomeu board and Rossel board. Both of them fucked us totally. I still have hope and faith in laporta board. But idk, we will have to win now or it's never and that's that. And I like to just enjoy the football but sometimes you just can't.
If Barca are found guilty I can see them getting relegated a massive fine & banned from the Champions League you only have to look at Juventus
Any time I see I a vizeh video it’s an instant watch
Well shit, I just decided to get into European football this week and had picked Barca as my team……
Stay with the club well, be great again 💙 ❤
I think football needs a major club as big as a Barcelona to collapse, as it'd send a strong messge to every other club that no club is too big to collapse. If it could happen to them, it could happen to anybody.
Ftr I'm not wanting Barcelona to disappear forever, but forcing them to start over again will be very effective to deter future clubs from the same mistakes, especially the mega clubs across europe.
That won't happen tho
Love the teams and how effortless that those teams of the past have made football looked. But come on we can't really be surprised here. Still be a sad day if Barcelona is banned/bankrupted
Couldn’t happen to a better team.
Once more Vizeh with a banger video
Barcelona could go down its sad for the legends that played for the club xavi the manager doesn't even know a thing going on same as the players
Bartomeu is responsible for a majority of Barcas issues. The transfers and contracts his board handed out have financially hamstrung the club. All the transfers and contracts mentioned in this video are from Bartomeus reign. The clubs finances are still recovering from that period (worsened by Covid).
De Jong has a bartomeu contract with crazy wages … that’s why there’s constantly rumors about his transfer. Even tho everyone recognizes his quality.
i think everyone should start raising money to save the club and get some super money in from ex players who are all millionaires anyway and might want to save their home
They got nothing for the Negreira Case but they may of violated FFP for UEFA standards
If they get barred for 2-3 from the UCL, then they could go maybe not into liquidation obviously that’s extreme, but be at risk of admin. I can see them finding a way to survive in La Liga but that would be a shitshow
This has got to be the most ridiculous video I’ve ever seen regarding anything about Barça. Truly unbelievable how someone could dedicate any amount of time spreading nonsense and half truths and what’s truly disturbing is the creator will have the majority if not all who subscribe believing this drivel.
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Why tf is everyone acting so crazy about Barça selling their tv rights while Madrid already did this in 2006 ??? Wtf is this agenda against us...
If you actually look into things you'll know the salaries have decreased 300 million in 2 years, the camp nou reformation debt will be payed out of the increase (expected to be 40%) of the sales and that they were by far the better team in spain which grew into the season and that the news about Negreira are only in the investigation phase and the PROVISIONAL judge is only looking at proofs and making assumptions, which btw have been openly questioned by other judges (and if you think about it with common sense how can you bribe for so many years with a little bit more money than the salaries of the referees, not hiding the bills and with no referees having experienced any pressure form Barça?). Yes we were with shit around our neck, but now it's only by the waist and looking up, when everything is dropped and the club finances are fine we'll know who was right. If not you can come here and laugh at me for not being right.
Why was the ballack picture at 5:06 used? This is misleading, they are being investigated on a national level, nothing to do with uefa competitions mate
Casual misinformation and fake news against us... nothing new