Is the 2.2 jts a horrible engine in your opinion?Would a remap make it any faster or make any difference at all?Do you have any advice on making it overall a better car or should people who want to go fast just buy a different car and forget about the idea of making a 2.2 jts fast?
Depends on what you're looking for. To me the 2.2 JTS engine sound is rather boring compare to previous Alfa engines but it is far more reliable and not bad in performance. the 159 is just way too heavy so if you want some ‘punch’ with 159 2.2 JTS might not be the best suit. The power gain from remap on 2.2 will be quite minimal (guess around 10~20 hp max in general) If you’re looking for ‘ok’ performance with little more push to it, go for it. Otherwise you better look at 3.2 JTS it’s far more pleasing (but costly) engine to drive.
Yeah the 2.2 is a lost cause I'm afraid, mainly because it's already tuned to beyond original design by the alfa head and then it's trying to pull a 1500kg car along. Which is a shame really because the suspension and steering are fantastic, it excels on long sweeping country roads, racetracks not so much. The gearing makes it quick enough around town but if you want to track it the 1750 is the way to go.
Did you try the 3.2? I did not but I can't imagine that it is that much faster than the 2.2 you could feel a significant difference. It has longer gearing, the 4wd needs extra power to be accelerated and it is way heavier, so probably you wouldn't feel that much difference. The only way imho would be whether upgrading the 3.2 with a supercharger oder tune up the 1.8 tbi with e.g. 4c turbo and remap
@@darkoriginpictures I've remapped my 2.2 JTS, performance exhaust and performance induction system. Shes at 220bhp and runs very well indeed. I would say shes on a par with the 1750 tbi but faster than the 3.2 JTS
@@rogerhalstead2595 yeah I ported and polished the head while it was off, up 25% on the flow test, exhaust is just resonators, I was looking at remapping but other projects took priority. It does have some poke but I reckon if I actually timed the performance it'd be minimal, there's just too much car for the four cylinder torque. Still can't bring myself to buy a diesel though 😒
MetropoloBot that’s actually my mate. The Getz is well known for its agility and the car is fitted with after market parts & weight tuned plus had rs3 summer sport tire while my car was on budget comfort tire and its a bloody heavy car for its size. And the track layout is quite balanced so “hp” doesnt do much on this track
Min Park would you recommend selespeed gearbox? is it worth to consider? how it is in city driving? i ,ve heard that the one used in 159 is much better than 147/156 generation. do you think it's faster than maniak?
I've been driving 147 156 159 all with Selespeed. I only chose selespeed because I have share the car, otherwise I'd go manual. but I've seen improvements and I can say it's much more reliable than the previous versions. The gear shift speed is about the same as human speed (the fast one)
It's selespeed gear???
yeah looks that way
What speed you are going at 3000 rpm in Selespeed?
Hi.I m after an alfa, my first one. Woul you take a mito 155hp over this one? or just straigth to the truth and get an old 156 and restore it :)
159 only diesel 1.9 and 2.0 ( fast enought ), or 2.4 if you have money for more fuel but want to drive a rocket
Is the 2.2 jts a horrible engine in your opinion?Would a remap make it any faster or make any difference at all?Do you have any advice on making it overall a better car or should people who want to go fast just buy a different car and forget about the idea of making a 2.2 jts fast?
Depends on what you're looking for. To me the 2.2 JTS engine sound is rather boring compare to previous Alfa engines but it is far more reliable and not bad in performance. the 159 is just way too heavy so if you want some ‘punch’ with 159 2.2 JTS might not be the best suit. The power gain from remap on 2.2 will be quite minimal (guess around 10~20 hp max in general) If you’re looking for ‘ok’ performance with little more push to it, go for it. Otherwise you better look at 3.2 JTS it’s far more pleasing (but costly) engine to drive.
Yeah the 2.2 is a lost cause I'm afraid, mainly because it's already tuned to beyond original design by the alfa head and then it's trying to pull a 1500kg car along. Which is a shame really because the suspension and steering are fantastic, it excels on long sweeping country roads, racetracks not so much. The gearing makes it quick enough around town but if you want to track it the 1750 is the way to go.
Did you try the 3.2? I did not but I can't imagine that it is that much faster than the 2.2 you could feel a significant difference. It has longer gearing, the 4wd needs extra power to be accelerated and it is way heavier, so probably you wouldn't feel that much difference. The only way imho would be whether upgrading the 3.2 with a supercharger oder tune up the 1.8 tbi with e.g. 4c turbo and remap
@@darkoriginpictures I've remapped my 2.2 JTS, performance exhaust and performance induction system. Shes at 220bhp and runs very well indeed. I would say shes on a par with the 1750 tbi but faster than the 3.2 JTS
@@rogerhalstead2595 yeah I ported and polished the head while it was off, up 25% on the flow test, exhaust is just resonators, I was looking at remapping but other projects took priority. It does have some poke but I reckon if I actually timed the performance it'd be minimal, there's just too much car for the four cylinder torque. Still can't bring myself to buy a diesel though 😒
1:33 scazy, but still....you couldn't overtake that Hyundai by an Alfa with 2.2 185bhp?
MetropoloBot that’s actually my mate. The Getz is well known for its agility and the car is fitted with after market parts & weight tuned plus had rs3 summer sport tire while my car was on budget comfort tire and its a bloody heavy car for its size. And the track layout is quite balanced so “hp” doesnt do much on this track
Ale the sheer you certainly never drove on track or have no knowledge on this car. 300hp ??? Hahaha I’m fucking laughing dude
still crazy bro, that getz without a 2L cannot cope on the papers with a 2.2...that Hyundai has a modified engine, no doubt
MetropoloBot yeah but when you drive both you will see why
but still with a max stock Getz 1.6 - 105bhp, Alfa should have the lead on the long run...tho'
A petrol, red 159 TI with tan leather. There are few nicer cars on UK roads. Shame about that gear box
Christopher O'Grady fuck off just FUCK OFF
WiniPlays excuse me
Christopher O'Grady yeah the gearbox is actually a shame
@@MooCreation what’s wrong with the gearbox ? Sluggish ? Or just rubbish
156 2.0 destroy it
I agree. I used to drive 156 too. much better in every "driving" aspect
Seems very underpowered
Indeed the shitty gearbox + heavy weight of the car
is this chevy aveo in front of you??
It's a Hyundai Getz
He's actually my mate, the car is not fast but very light and agile. It has stiff springs done and Hankook RS-3 high grip tire.
Min Park would you recommend selespeed gearbox? is it worth to consider? how it is in city driving? i ,ve heard that the one used in 159 is much better than 147/156 generation. do you think it's faster than maniak?
I've been driving 147 156 159 all with Selespeed. I only chose selespeed because I have share the car, otherwise I'd go manual. but I've seen improvements and I can say it's much more reliable than the previous versions. The gear shift speed is about the same as human speed (the fast one)
Ale the sheer dude you are welcome to come over and do the laptime. I bet $10,000 and would pay for your whole trip if you do a faster time