Since many of you are not happy with the two 0-100 times in the beginning. There is a third 0-100 at 5:06 with a more Aggressive start on a dry road, I did forget to add the time but just checked and it was a 7.2. Alfa Romeo claimed a 7.0, i didn't want to make more Launches since it is an Italian car and youtube money is not good enough to risk it. If you want to support me to see more hard Italian launch control starts don't skip the ads it makes a big difference in the amount of money I get. Hope all of you enjoyed the Video
@@moahmedmig3233 It is a trivial vulgate. It just needs proper maintenance done by a good mechanic. I currently own / drive 5 A.R. (One bought in 1984, one in 2000) and I assure you they are excellent, NEVER had any problems. Besides them a perfect 159 sw that I bought new in 2007
I own the car with a 2.4 diesel. It's fantastic, great handling, still looks great (TI version) despite being 13 years old, decently comfy for two people (back seats don't really have a lot of space). It's biggest problem is lack of a powerful, big engine that could promoting the model. The 3.2 petrol with 4 wheel drive sounds good on paper, but is definitely disappointing in performance. The car weights a lot, it's not enough. 1.75 TBI was a good attempt, but still, sounds like turbocharged toy. Wish we had an option of something along AMG version of mercedes, M version of BMW, S version of audi, or stuff like Lexus ISF. Diesels are great, but they are not fun. There is no decent petrol engine available for 159.
I agree I think it’s one of the best looking cars. The interior looks great but I don’t like the seats m, look great but aren’t very nice to use. My dream would have been the Maserati V8 and rwd but sadly it’s the platform dose not allow a proper engine
Actually there is the perfect engine for this car and is cheap. This car is heavy because is strong, it chassis support mucho more torque than it's bmw pair, all of this is due to the first design by Giuggiaro, the car was design with the holden v8's in mind and it was initiality fitted with a Maserati v8, in fact a few 159 were seen in Europe with the 4.7 Maserati , it fits on the bay and it makes sense, it was meant to compete with Porsche but, cost effective...it was dropped. Now, you have all those old Quattroporte dissasembled at USa and the engines (ferrari maserati) costs...4000 pounds. I know because I own a 159 and I dreamed with that plan...a lot.
I love mine too, with the 3.2. I think the power is perfect for a daily driver. It's enough for fun & you can use it all around they year with the 4wd system. A V8 GTA version would have been perfect, of course!
There are some supercharger kits for the 3.2 jts wich make up to 360 hp. In combination with Q4 this probably a very good balance between performance and drive ability. I have a Brera 2.2 and the chassis feels like it could deal with more than 400 hp easily
@@michaelsiegel9658 I have a 2.2 159, our chasis handle power because it was designed to acommodate the maserati v8 , a few 159 with the 4.7 version rolled through Europe testing them and after all they drop the project due to costs. I still hoping someone made that conversion, those v8 4.2 from 2008 are very cheap now considering they are indeed ferrari engines. I've never figured out wich gearbox they used, I know they were 4x4 and that the engine was mounted sideways.
Beautiful interior! Very underrated engine. Sounds very good, very peculiar, no way to mistake with another engine! The shift to 2nd is indeed notchy, otherwise I like the shift action quite a lot!
In South Africa at the end of the 159s production run, the 3.2 was available in fwd with a few aluminum body panels to save weight. They were quite quick, the 3.2jts had a kerb weight of 1540kg and could easily do 250km/h
Aluminium body panels? This would be a dream, I am always dreaming of a lighter hood and fenders for my Brera to reduce weight and improve weight distribution!
Interior and exterior is great I just wish they had dropped a good engine and nice gearbox in the car. My dream would have been the Maserati V8 and rwd.
@@TopSpeedBrothers there was a GTA prototype being tested around Nürburgring with a Maserati V8... Sadly the recession hit in 2008 and they abandoned it
Alfas are great cars, but people dont understand they need proper maintenence before service intervals. Great mistakes happen when people used on VW washing machines and they think you can drive like you stole it and skip service 👍
Alfas are amazing premium cars for those who know how to drive. You can daily drive every 1.9 diesel or 2.0, and you can go easily more than 500k km with any 2.4.
Yes they do need proper maintenance and it should be done before a light comes on. The biggest problem is that nowadays people get spoiled with 30k service intervals
TIP: hold down the asr button and will disengage all traction control systems. You have to practice more on shifting, because you can shift faster on this car, don't get me wrong but you shift like grandpa
at 5:06 I did the long-press traction control deactivation and did launch the car harder than I would like to launch any Italian car. Whenever I shifted faster I had problems getting into the second gear. The 0-100 time at 5:06 was around 7.2 so not far behind the time Alfa claims.
I agree that you should practice faster shifting, but the example from the turbo diesel doesn't apply to a NA petrol engine. rev it all the way to the red line and push it out of gear while pressing the clutch, so that the clutch is released just in time for engaging the next gear. it's not easy with this gear box, but as you say: it's an Italian car 😎
It had it all. Very well done video. Btw I love your gardening gloves, they’re for a fraction of a cost of some driving/racing gloves and they do the same job often better😄. Might not be FIA-approved, but whatever😅 grip is grip.
Unfortunately this engine is not a true Alfa Romeo, it is a Holden engine block with Alfa Heads, intake, exhaust and Engine management. 260 bhp is SAE rated, closer to 230 DIN rated. The original Busso V6 3.2 was rated at 250 bhp.
Its a sporty gearbox. The car needs to be well warmed up to perform at its best, including the tires too. You can also instal a short shifter like many do.
Terrible engine, great video ! Stock 2.4jtdm would have performed better especially in 0-100 and with nice 5 cylinder sound along with better fuel economy Most videos on youtube with this GM engine show it underperforming and way off the factory specifications for performance. Seems after a few years it loses half of its horse? 😂
I have the same 3.2 one with automatic gearbox and accordingly to the app i downloaded it did 0-100 in 7.0sec. every time (i tried 2 times) and it really feels like 0-100 in 7 seconds, especially in the begining when the 4x4 does its job.
how do you know? Ever driven one? Owned one? Tested a stock 2,4 against one? Because I have. The dude with the jtdm talked same smack and now pretends he is on the phone every time I see him...Keyboard expers everywhere. Forgot to mention that most of the 2,4s have at some point cracked the cylinder head.
It's due to carbon build-up. It's a great engine but like most performance engines, it needs special care in order to perform well (frequent oil changes, and on these High Feature units, work on the oil passages). One of these engines, carbon cleaned, with headers and a remap, pushes close to 300 hp. The gear ratios aren't well suited to it either, the box having been originally designed for diesel applications (F40 box, same as the 2.4 JTDm).
But its a diesel and diesel in an alfa is embarrassing . I know because I've owned both first the diesel now the 3.2. When on the motorway I didn't mind the diesel because nobody could hear it. Under hard acceleration the diesel sounded nice but idle in traffic I felt embarrassed to have a rattly diesel in an Italian beauty
Yes it should do 0-100 in 7 but was a slippery day but it should do a below 8. I had trouble with the second gear not sure if that made me lose 1 second.
What an idiot at 2:33, always look far far behind you folks when attempting to overtake on the autobahn. And when you are on the left lane, no matter the speed also always keep your rear view mirror in check because your not always the fastest. Rechts fahren. Which means always drive on the right, except when overtaking (take it with a grain of salt tough because it depends on the right lane traffic)
This was all on wet and cold roads so it could be better at 5:06 I had a stronger launch and a better shift and it resulted in a 7.2 seconds but i forgot to add the time
I want to buy same one,3.2 automatic and l will buy it for couple days. Tell me please,but be honest,what is about consumption? City,open roads and average consumption normal drive,drive by law?
@@75jjj The consumption is very bad to be honest. Im driving it not as a daily car, but as a second hobby car. Currently the computer on my car shows that is burns 16.9l per 100km but i would say that its higher. Driving on a highway you can reach 11-12l/100km and driving in the city it probably burns sth. like 23l.
Was bei den 2,4l Dieseln oft passiert ist das die Krümmer undicht werden, weil entweder die Bolzen reißen oder der Krümmer reißt. Abhilfe kann geschaffen werden indem man den ersten Kat durch eine Downpipe ersetzt. Desweiteren könnte man noch die Drall/Swirlklappen außer Kraft setzen sowie das AGR, beides ausprogrammieren lassen und bei Bedarf noch das mapping anpassen lassen (gibt dann haltbare 250ps anstatt 200-210) zudem liegt die Leistung früher an und du hast weniger Probleme mit Verkokungen des Ansaugtraktes (durch das stillgelegte AGR) zudem sparste noch ca 1l Diesel auf 100km. All das ist nicht legal allerdings fällt es niemandem auf weil man den KAT nicht wirklich sehen kann und sich bei der Abgasuntersuchung die gemessenen Werte nich ändern. Alles in allem hebt der Motor länger und das hast mehr Spaß dran.
Have you ever put that beauty on the dyno? For sure it isn't delivering 260hp. All JTS need remapping. Maybe there is something wrong in the engine too.
No I haven't, but this video was filmed just after the car had got a new used engine with relatively little km. acceleration times are not far from what it should be. Sadly, the 3.2 aren't very fast
It's fast enough, looks beautiful and sounds beautiful. Anyone can bomb along in a modern diesel now and beat any of these old cars but they're mostly ugly and all look the same. This car is beautiful from from guigaro
my friend bought one, and I was shocked when I realized that my e92 325i coupe with smaller engine and 45 hp less have better acceleration and top speed, I mean it's 3.2 v6 for Christ sake.
He should start to learn how to drive that car car. I did, many times ,meet on the streets plenty of "heroes" with 325i,320(i even don't know what that dude was trying to prove..),525..And i won every time! Just have to know how to wake up the horses. 3.2 v6 Q4 SW here. 2007 .Don't blame the engine. Blame the driver! There's drive license owner and drivers. Yeah, maybe not the best engine available on that moment, but it can be a good engine with well maintained and good driving. Good luck!
@@CorneliuLC if we are talking about 3.2 v6 it should easily beat 325, but 325 can accelerate to 100 in 6.7 sec and it does have higher top speed, while AR is over 7 sec. Try to compare AR 3.2 v6 with 330i or 335i they should be in same category but they are not. What was my point is that it's a slow car for 3.2 v6 engine especially in comparison with 330i or 335i.
Who cares, nobody drives tllike this on normal everyday drives and sp for 99% of the year when you drive to work I would rather be in this beautiful looking alfa rather than any bmw of which there are one every 10 cars and are not a head Turner. I drive my 159 every day ,have put 30,000 miles on it this year and have seen maybe 5 on the road max in that time.
@@leonhennes3791 Better engine than the Busso. Just needs frequent oil changes and carbon cleaning. With headers and a remap it makes close to 300 hp, whereas a 3.2 Busso with the same modifications can only manage 270 hp. Keep in mind the JTS also has to pull 350 kg over the Busso, as well as the Q4 system which generates huge drivetrain losses at high speeds.
Yes oil changes are very important this one had just gotten a new engine since the old one had seized due to sludge oil even so the previous owner had done all oil changes in time. That car is missing the turbo nm of modern engines. with the right engine and RWD it could be one of the most desirable cars on the market
First gear goes straight to 7000 RPM. Then shifting to second it takes so long to get to 4500 RPM and get some horsepower. You can get 120 km/h in 2nd gear, and go easily to 160 / 170 in 3rd. But the shifting from 1st to 2nd is horrible. Also why is there no power < 4000 RPM? I can't understand..
@@stefanobattistino2441 pero il sistema Q4 è un capolavoro, ed anche le sospensioni. Purtroppo, a colpa di merge con GM, dovevano usare la piattaforma GM, però hanno metto le sospensioni, metà di motori e il sistema 4 ruote - proprio Alfa Romeo. Al altra parte - il handling non è paragonabile a la X3 ( quale handling? ). La N57 di BMW e meglio di 2.4 JTDm ma non è una differenza massima, stock for stock. Anche le Merc C e la e90 pesano qualcosa. Perché lamentate?
Since many of you are not happy with the two 0-100 times in the beginning. There is a third 0-100 at 5:06 with a more Aggressive start on a dry road, I did forget to add the time but just checked and it was a 7.2.
Alfa Romeo claimed a 7.0, i didn't want to make more Launches since it is an Italian car and youtube money is not good enough to risk it. If you want to support me to see more hard Italian launch control starts don't skip the ads it makes a big difference in the amount of money I get.
Hope all of you enjoyed the Video
Ok, do you mean that italian car not reliable ? Right?
Especially Alfas have their reputation
@@moahmedmig3233 It is a trivial vulgate.
It just needs proper maintenance done by a good mechanic.
I currently own / drive 5 A.R. (One bought in 1984, one in 2000) and I assure you they are excellent, NEVER had any problems.
Besides them a perfect 159 sw that I bought new in 2007
@@studiocalder818 thanx for your feedback 👍🏾
« car c’est une voiture italienne »
Tu es un vrai abruti, encore un fan d’allemande ?
I own the car with a 2.4 diesel. It's fantastic, great handling, still looks great (TI version) despite being 13 years old, decently comfy for two people (back seats don't really have a lot of space). It's biggest problem is lack of a powerful, big engine that could promoting the model. The 3.2 petrol with 4 wheel drive sounds good on paper, but is definitely disappointing in performance. The car weights a lot, it's not enough. 1.75 TBI was a good attempt, but still, sounds like turbocharged toy. Wish we had an option of something along AMG version of mercedes, M version of BMW, S version of audi, or stuff like Lexus ISF. Diesels are great, but they are not fun. There is no decent petrol engine available for 159.
I agree I think it’s one of the best looking cars. The interior looks great but I don’t like the seats m, look great but aren’t very nice to use.
My dream would have been the Maserati V8 and rwd but sadly it’s the platform dose not allow a proper engine
Actually there is the perfect engine for this car and is cheap. This car is heavy because is strong, it chassis support mucho more torque than it's bmw pair, all of this is due to the first design by Giuggiaro, the car was design with the holden v8's in mind and it was initiality fitted with a Maserati v8, in fact a few 159 were seen in Europe with the 4.7 Maserati , it fits on the bay and it makes sense, it was meant to compete with Porsche but, cost effective...it was dropped. Now, you have all those old Quattroporte dissasembled at USa and the engines (ferrari maserati) costs...4000 pounds. I know because I own a 159 and I dreamed with that plan...a lot.
I love mine too, with the 3.2. I think the power is perfect for a daily driver. It's enough for fun & you can use it all around they year with the 4wd system. A V8 GTA version would have been perfect, of course!
There are some supercharger kits for the 3.2 jts wich make up to 360 hp. In combination with Q4 this probably a very good balance between performance and drive ability. I have a Brera 2.2 and the chassis feels like it could deal with more than 400 hp easily
@@michaelsiegel9658 I have a 2.2 159, our chasis handle power because it was designed to acommodate the maserati v8 , a few 159 with the 4.7 version rolled through Europe testing them and after all they drop the project due to costs. I still hoping someone made that conversion, those v8 4.2 from 2008 are very cheap now considering they are indeed ferrari engines. I've never figured out wich gearbox they used, I know they were 4x4 and that the engine was mounted sideways.
Engine, stability, interior, are fantastic! If you love drive, you love Alfa Romeo.Passion, emotions,Alfa becomes a part of yourself!
Beautiful interior! Very underrated engine. Sounds very good, very peculiar, no way to mistake with another engine! The shift to 2nd is indeed notchy, otherwise I like the shift action quite a lot!
In South Africa at the end of the 159s production run, the 3.2 was available in fwd with a few aluminum body panels to save weight. They were quite quick, the 3.2jts had a kerb weight of 1540kg and could easily do 250km/h
we had the front wheel drive as well. i like the idea of the lower weight but a v6 and fwd can not be good
Aluminium body panels? This would be a dream, I am always dreaming of a lighter hood and fenders for my Brera to reduce weight and improve weight distribution!
@@michaelsiegel9658Painted carbon fiber would be amazing for the hood but I don't think the price is worth it yet.
What a lovely interior
Interior and exterior is great I just wish they had dropped a good engine and nice gearbox in the car. My dream would have been the Maserati V8 and rwd.
@@TopSpeedBrothers there was a GTA prototype being tested around Nürburgring with a Maserati V8... Sadly the recession hit in 2008 and they abandoned it
1st gen IS 300 (or sportcross) would be amazing pushed to the max on the autobahn, very rare car with barely any content on youtube
Will try my best but not sure where to get it
Alfas are great cars, but people dont understand they need proper maintenence before service intervals.
Great mistakes happen when people used on VW washing machines and they think you can drive like you stole it and skip service 👍
Alfas are amazing premium cars for those who know how to drive. You can daily drive every 1.9 diesel or 2.0, and you can go easily more than 500k km with any 2.4.
Yes they do need proper maintenance and it should be done before a light comes on.
The biggest problem is that nowadays people get spoiled with 30k service intervals
TIP: hold down the asr button and will disengage all traction control systems. You have to practice more on shifting, because you can shift faster on this car, don't get me wrong but you shift like grandpa
at 5:06 I did the long-press traction control deactivation and did launch the car harder than I would like to launch any Italian car. Whenever I shifted faster I had problems getting into the second gear. The 0-100 time at 5:06 was around 7.2 so not far behind the time Alfa claims.
@@TopSpeedBrothers here's how you should shift a manual alfa 159czcams.com/video/goPvlQ8B2-o/video.html
I agree that you should practice faster shifting, but the example from the turbo diesel doesn't apply to a NA petrol engine. rev it all the way to the red line and push it out of gear while pressing the clutch, so that the clutch is released just in time for engaging the next gear. it's not easy with this gear box, but as you say: it's an Italian car 😎
Are the timing chains reliable on these as I heard they can stretch over time and need to be replaced
It had it all. Very well done video. Btw I love your gardening gloves, they’re for a fraction of a cost of some driving/racing gloves and they do the same job often better😄. Might not be FIA-approved, but whatever😅 grip is grip.
Need to see Alfa Romeo 156 👍🏾
will try would be interesting also want to see a 169 2.4 Diesel but it is difficult to get the cars
Alfa 156 is a perfect special youngtimer
Great great great car 🤙🏼
…very beautiful,one of the best engines ARomeo !!!!!260 hp is enough 3,200
but it needs so much more power
Unfortunately this engine is not a true Alfa Romeo, it is a Holden engine block with Alfa Heads, intake, exhaust and Engine management. 260 bhp is SAE rated, closer to 230 DIN rated. The original Busso V6 3.2 was rated at 250 bhp.
I own same car but with 2.4 JTDM Diesel , i drove max 245kmh and kinda run like this one here.
I was expecting more from the 3.2 it’s a disappointing engine
@@hardi7657 das allrad macht das auto schon einiges schwerer. schade denn auf dem papier ein perfektes auto
Its a sporty gearbox. The car needs to be well warmed up to perform at its best, including the tires too. You can also instal a short shifter like many do.
A short shifter would be nice
Terrible engine, great video ! Stock 2.4jtdm would have performed better especially in 0-100 and with nice 5 cylinder sound along with better fuel economy
Most videos on youtube with this GM engine show it underperforming and way off the factory specifications for performance. Seems after a few years it loses half of its horse? 😂
I have the same 3.2 one with automatic gearbox and accordingly to the app i downloaded it did 0-100 in 7.0sec. every time (i tried 2 times) and it really feels like 0-100 in 7 seconds, especially in the begining when the 4x4 does its job.
how do you know? Ever driven one? Owned one? Tested a stock 2,4 against one? Because I have. The dude with the jtdm talked same smack and now pretends he is on the phone every time I see him...Keyboard expers everywhere. Forgot to mention that most of the 2,4s have at some point cracked the cylinder head.
It's due to carbon build-up. It's a great engine but like most performance engines, it needs special care in order to perform well (frequent oil changes, and on these High Feature units, work on the oil passages). One of these engines, carbon cleaned, with headers and a remap, pushes close to 300 hp.
The gear ratios aren't well suited to it either, the box having been originally designed for diesel applications (F40 box, same as the 2.4 JTDm).
@@Bi4iz great response
But its a diesel and diesel in an alfa is embarrassing . I know because I've owned both first the diesel now the 3.2. When on the motorway I didn't mind the diesel because nobody could hear it. Under hard acceleration the diesel sounded nice but idle in traffic I felt embarrassed to have a rattly diesel in an Italian beauty
Learn how to change gears
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I want to buy same one for 3 days. What is consumption in normal drive-city,open roads and average? Normal drive l mean driving by law
This car must be little faster. Above 8.3-7.9 0-100 or more
Yes it should do 0-100 in 7 but was a slippery day but it should do a below 8. I had trouble with the second gear not sure if that made me lose 1 second.
I forgot to add the 0-100 time at 5:06 it was around 7.2
What an idiot at 2:33, always look far far behind you folks when attempting to overtake on the autobahn. And when you are on the left lane, no matter the speed also always keep your rear view mirror in check because your not always the fastest. Rechts fahren. Which means always drive on the right, except when overtaking (take it with a grain of salt tough because it depends on the right lane traffic)
holly shit, new Guilia gives 5 sec
You have to shut down A\C! It use about 20 25 hp. I have 159 2.4 with 241 hp FWD: 0-100 in about 6,5 sec and top speed 255km\h (243 with GPS)
Mine with automatic does 0-100 in 7.0 sec every time i try with accelometer but is not rly accelerating fast over 140km/h
This was all on wet and cold roads so it could be better at 5:06 I had a stronger launch and a better shift and it resulted in a 7.2 seconds but i forgot to add the time
@@TopSpeedBrothers yeah 7.2 is the time for a 3.2 V6 in sportswagon version and 7.0 for sedan
ah ok did not know that, thanks. so i guess the car and I did alright
I want to buy same one,3.2 automatic and l will buy it for couple days. Tell me please,but be honest,what is about consumption? City,open roads and average consumption normal drive,drive by law?
@@75jjj The consumption is very bad to be honest. Im driving it not as a daily car, but as a second hobby car. Currently the computer on my car shows that is burns 16.9l per 100km but i would say that its higher.
Driving on a highway you can reach 11-12l/100km and driving in the city it probably burns sth. like 23l.
Great car. Do the marigolds come with it i wonder? !
The Marigolds only come out in the rain 😉
For this conditions I stick to the top speed gloves.
Where are you from?
I don't know what's going on with these 3.2s, are they that bad? My 2.4jtdm goes very similarly with 50 less horsepower and almost the same weight
The only thing I can think of is that the 2.4 has less peak power but higher average power throughout the rev range, although it seems strange
@@LamantinoElettronico yeah this would make sense, have to look after it
Kann mal jemand vielleicht drüber mal berichten Opti Diesel zuverlässig von Alfa Romeo sind
Was bei den 2,4l Dieseln oft passiert ist das die Krümmer undicht werden, weil entweder die Bolzen reißen oder der Krümmer reißt. Abhilfe kann geschaffen werden indem man den ersten Kat durch eine Downpipe ersetzt. Desweiteren könnte man noch die Drall/Swirlklappen außer Kraft setzen sowie das AGR, beides ausprogrammieren lassen und bei Bedarf noch das mapping anpassen lassen (gibt dann haltbare 250ps anstatt 200-210) zudem liegt die Leistung früher an und du hast weniger Probleme mit Verkokungen des Ansaugtraktes (durch das stillgelegte AGR) zudem sparste noch ca 1l Diesel auf 100km.
All das ist nicht legal allerdings fällt es niemandem auf weil man den KAT nicht wirklich sehen kann und sich bei der Abgasuntersuchung die gemessenen Werte nich ändern. Alles in allem hebt der Motor länger und das hast mehr Spaß dran.
Bel video dall'italia
Its in Germany Baunatal
acceleration is a different meaning
I own the TBI 1.75 in black it’s a lovely car and only 115 registered now in the UK .However the gearbox is a GM gearbox m32 which aren’t the best.
Yes the GM parts are always weak spots same with the GM 3.2 Engine in this Alfa
3.2 has better gearbox than the m32 no?
Yes, the shifting should be learned...
Nice car, but what's up with the gardening gloves?
Have you ever put that beauty on the dyno? For sure it isn't delivering 260hp. All JTS need remapping. Maybe there is something wrong in the engine too.
No I haven't, but this video was filmed just after the car had got a new used engine with relatively little km. acceleration times are not far from what it should be. Sadly, the 3.2 aren't very fast
It's fast enough, looks beautiful and sounds beautiful. Anyone can bomb along in a modern diesel now and beat any of these old cars but they're mostly ugly and all look the same. This car is beautiful from from guigaro
my friend bought one, and I was shocked when I realized that my e92 325i coupe with smaller engine and 45 hp less have better acceleration and top speed, I mean it's 3.2 v6 for Christ sake.
yeah it is not very impressive in terms of speed but its great at consuming lots of fuel
He should start to learn how to drive that car car. I did, many times ,meet on the streets plenty of "heroes" with 325i,320(i even don't know what that dude was trying to prove..),525..And i won every time! Just have to know how to wake up the horses. 3.2 v6 Q4 SW here. 2007 .Don't blame the engine. Blame the driver! There's drive license owner and drivers.
Yeah, maybe not the best engine available on that moment, but it can be a good engine with well maintained and good driving. Good luck!
@@CorneliuLC if we are talking about 3.2 v6 it should easily beat 325, but 325 can accelerate to 100 in 6.7 sec and it does have higher top speed, while AR is over 7 sec. Try to compare AR 3.2 v6 with 330i or 335i they should be in same category but they are not. What was my point is that it's a slow car for 3.2 v6 engine especially in comparison with 330i or 335i.
Who cares, nobody drives tllike this on normal everyday drives and sp for 99% of the year when you drive to work I would rather be in this beautiful looking alfa rather than any bmw of which there are one every 10 cars and are not a head Turner. I drive my 159 every day ,have put 30,000 miles on it this year and have seen maybe 5 on the road max in that time.
rip 2nd
him and me are not gone become friends
leggenda
10.3 to 100 kph rly ??
I did shift poorly from first into second which lost around 1.0-1.5 seconds.
I love Alfas but this one is shit
Engine from GM 🤢
1.8 TBi would be nicer
But it has very high output hp/liter
@@skillandluck so does the Busso
it is one of the most beautiful cars but the engine looks good on paper but is a big disappointment
@@leonhennes3791 Better engine than the Busso. Just needs frequent oil changes and carbon cleaning. With headers and a remap it makes close to 300 hp, whereas a 3.2 Busso with the same modifications can only manage 270 hp.
Keep in mind the JTS also has to pull 350 kg over the Busso, as well as the Q4 system which generates huge drivetrain losses at high speeds.
Yes oil changes are very important this one had just gotten a new engine since the old one had seized due to sludge oil even so the previous owner had done all oil changes in time.
That car is missing the turbo nm of modern engines. with the right engine and RWD it could be one of the most desirable cars on the market
My fiat tipo 1.6 multijet going like this with 1450kg
Das lenkrad ähnelt dem bmw m lenkrad 😂
Stimmt
Waooooo
100-200kmh je 20s neznaš vozit
3.2 JTS is probably in top 3 worst engines ever made
Sadly you are right.
I don't understand why they chose the least reliable engine GM has to offer.
Also feels a lot less powerfull than it should
They should stick with legendary "Busso", best v6 engine ever made :)
Oil temp don’t work
159 / Brera sehr langsam. Schneller mit 1750TBi-Motor, mit 60PS weniger.
mancu guidari na machina sai
This is very very slow for a 260hp small sedan.
Great looking car but the engines and driverrain are simply disappointing.
Куда интереснее будет 2.4 на чипе
Я тоже так думаю!
love those wannabes with construction gloves 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😂😂😂😂
Me too.
Real men wear Top Speed Gloves 😏
Bho'... Sarà anche perché è la versione più pesante ma hai fatto delle partenze con cambiate che fanno pena
Absolutely more beautiful than giulia
We agree!
My 2.4jtd 210cv is faster
yes yes 😉
Opel engine
Un vero polmone......
Damn It’s slow
Yeah considering it’s the bis 3.2 v6
It is soooo slow...
No hard feeling...but my 156 SW 2.5 V6 goes way better from 0 ti 200kmh.
Warp 7
235=220gps
En un mot " Assassin" tu c'est pas conduire, encore moins piloter, Assassin y a pas d'autres mots.
9 seconds...... lol 260 hp
Mercedes speedo? 😅😂
Haha maybe the same supplier
Sen bı araba kullanmayı ogren öyle video çek alfa öyle sürülmez
Peugeot 307 kombi 2.0 140hp 9.2s 😁 alfa 8,8s 🤭
Beznadziejny silnik.(Przerobiony silnik GM)Z,alfy została tylko nazwa...
KARDRŞİM SEN BİRDAHA ARABA SÜRME
0-100 10.3 😢
but it sounds good
Your shifting is horrible, that poor classic.
Yeah I’m not proud of my shifts in this video. I’m not gone lie I struggled with the gearbox
I have this car and it is a piece of sh!t. So slow. Only has HP above 4.500 RPM.
First gear goes straight to 7000 RPM. Then shifting to second it takes so long to get to 4500 RPM and get some horsepower. You can get 120 km/h in 2nd gear, and go easily to 160 / 170 in 3rd. But the shifting from 1st to 2nd is horrible. Also why is there no power < 4000 RPM? I can't understand..
its so pretty but the engine is disappointment, sounds good but neds alot more power
Che polmone !!! 1800kg !!! Avevo un x3 che pesava così. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 praticamente beve e non va un tubo !!
Sono auto di cattivo gusto, e le vendite parlano chiaro...da sempre.
@@stefanobattistino2441 pero il sistema Q4 è un capolavoro, ed anche le sospensioni.
Purtroppo, a colpa di merge con GM, dovevano usare la piattaforma GM, però hanno metto le sospensioni, metà di motori e il sistema 4 ruote - proprio Alfa Romeo.
Al altra parte - il handling non è paragonabile a la X3 ( quale handling? ). La N57 di BMW e meglio di 2.4 JTDm ma non è una differenza massima, stock for stock.
Anche le Merc C e la e90 pesano qualcosa.
Perché lamentate?
Manchmal sollte man auch mal schalten. Das tut ja schon weh . Meine Güte