Tamron SP 24-70mm F2.8 G2 vs Sigma Art 24-70mm F2.8 OS Shootout (At Beakerhead)
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- With Calgary's annual Science and Wonder exhibition, "BEAKERHEAD" in full swing, TCSTV test the brand new Tamron G2 24-70mm 2.8 and Sigma Art 24-70mm 2.8 in a head to head battle. Have the third party manufacturers finally reached a level to compete against the big camera companies? Watch and find out!
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Shot and edited by Jordan Drake
Shot on the Panasonic GH5
I'm loving the Tamron 24-70 G2 with my D850 ✌️
What about the Tamron G1 is the upgrading worth it?
Don’t buy the G1, you will be disappointed! G2 is very much better in image quality.
James Wuertele How do u know?
Tamron g2 and d850. Dream setup right there. Good for you man. Congrats
Same here, first lens i picked up with mine. 2nd lens was the Tamron 70-200 G2.
I have owned 2 tamron 24-70 VC in the past so I have a little more pull toward the new Tamron VC. Tamron quality control for me has been impressive, picture quality has been impressive and price also so for me the Tamron is the best deal you can get period forget about the money. Don't know to much about the Sigma but It looks good as well. This is all good for DSLR owners so go Tamron and Sigma!
If I get one, definitely going with the Tamron. Looks like a stellar lens.
BTW, I so agree with you - I don't know why people aren't really looking into those Tamron primes!! I own the 45mm, it's one heck of a lens! Paired up with my 6D, it makes for a perfect all-day setup. Amazing build, weather sealed, IQ is fantastic, f/1.8 aperture gives you beautiful bokeh, and the VC is AMAZING!!! It's an awesome lens.
James Larsen I agree. I have the 45mm and it's freaking awesome!
There's a bokeh crazyness trend nowadays imho, some people hear 1.4 and it's all they want. So sigma is dominating there. They are great lenses but I much prefer the built quality, size, IQ VC and overall concept of the Tamrons.
@2:35 As a proud Pentaxian, I appreciate Chris incorporating some Pentax into the review :-D
Thanks for the videos, guys.
Heads up: The Tamron G2 is parfocal. That's a huge improvement over the G1 lens for video work. I wonder if the Sigma Art is parfocal or varifocal.
You helped me decide, CSTV. Going with the Tamron G2. So, I'll be selling my first gen Tamron; My very first SLR lens.
Thanks for the great moments, my dear. May your next owner take you to new and exciting places
This episode should be dedicated to the memory of Chris' backpack.
Thank you Piotr. Roots was nice enough to sympathize with my plight and sent me another one!
Chris @ TCSTV
Hi
Comparison between 24-70 2.8 old tamron and new G2 verion would be great
You read my mine as I was looking for Tamron review. Thanks TCSTV
Great hands on, lucky to get that Sigma, hard to get on our end. For the value and besides a little hunting issues, that Tamron is pretty good
yes
I just order the Tamron!!! for the Nikon D850... both on back order. Looking forward to receiving them both.
At this point, I'm only watching these excellent reviews to hear Chris's, "or some sh*t like that".
I have four Sigma Art primes and they're incredible. In each case, I very carefully considered the Canon alternatives but opted for the Sigmas. I also wanted a nice 24-70 f/2.8 'walkaround' lens and discounted the Canon straight away simply because it's a lot more expensive and has no stabilisation. There aren't too many of these comparisons out yet, but from what I can tell, the Tamron does tend to come out on top. Mine arrived yesterday and I have to agree with the conclusions in this video - the image quality is fantastic. I've only used it once so far but, needless to say, it is absolutely pin sharp including very good corner sharpness. I'll be doing a full review of it on my channel once I've spent a little bit more time with it.
The Tamron is great...
Oh my goodness, how I've been waiting for a proper look at these two.
You resisted the temptation to take the same picture with both lenses under the same lighting conditions. You had two identical bodies, so why make it too easy, right?
He did, when testing bokeh, how close it can focus, CA and also a few other times.
I'm sure they did to make their own determinations. We can't possibly see every photo taken during a video review without it getting boring and clunky.
He probably did but, to make the video interesting, they didn't show duplicate images other than when necessary.
Yeah we shot quite a few identical frames and then I was like F this I'm tired of shooting the same photo twice so I tried instead to spend some time with each lens. Then my backpack got stolen and I didn't care what lens I was using. Still had fun though!
Chris @TCSTV
Would have loved to hear about and see some stabilized video footage shot with these lenses.
as a video shooter I would pick the sigma, simply because the focus ring goes in the same direction as most cinema lenses, while the tamron goes in the opposite
+legend
The Tamron is parfocal, though. I'm not sure if the Sigma is.
+Smaakjeks K........I owned the tamron 17-50mm (parfocal) and honestly didn't find needing the parfocal use that much. the sigma 17-50mm for example only changes slightly when zooming in and out (and is easy to refocus, although has bad breathing), and you can always just stop the lens down and compensate with iso (atleast you can on the a7sii with it's insane iso). learning the wrong focus direction can really stuff up your manual focusing later on. other than the focus ring I think the tamron is better, but for video work both manual focus and autofocus on the sigma is better
+legend
No, you must use the lens I say, and have my conviction. Those are the rules of the internet.
+Smaakjeks K.........very well, my apologies. I hope you can forgive me for my mistake.............I shall pledge myself to tamron as you say :)
I really enjoy your channel. The information is clear & very well delivered. Keep up the great work!
Finally a review about this two new lenses! Both amazing, but I am going to buy the Tamron. It really impressed me!
Really ? It seems that Sigma is better in corners at 24 f 2,8 . But otherwise, I'm Ok with you.
I have the original Tamron 24-70 and it's a brilliant lens for the money. Much cheaper than the G2 and very similar performance (apart from the quality of bokeh) which is not an issue for me). The build quality of the 1st gen lens is absolutely fine too.
Just bought the G1, glad to hear this.
That happiness will end with Canon 5d Mark IV. Tamron 24-70 f2.8 (007 or G1) is good with 5D Mark III, but Mark IV can't correctly focus with Tamron 007 (G1) version. Maybe up to 55mm Zoom, then you'll have a problem with constabtly missing focus. This is known issue for that version. Tamron tap in console won't work with older version like G1, so no updates for this thing. Same goes for Older version of Tamron 70-200, f/2.8 (G1). Great lenses, but if you get them you stuck with them and no further, than 5d Mark III.
Thank you for another excellent video! I have been waiting for your review of these two lenses and happy to see that there it is.
thank god clients wont say hey look onion rings on the bokeh hahahaha
so happy to see this video uploaded, great timing
I'm really confused about which one to buy. Sigma or Tamron. Could help? it's because?
Notification squad! Who's with me?
5 pm
Here I am!
Nope
Show offs.
what's ur settings? haha
Great hands on review! I've got the Sigma and it's rather hard to believe its OS outperforms Tamron's VC. I personally feel a little bit let down by Sigma's overall performance especially it's wearing the Art series badge but for the money I couldn't ask for more. As a Nikon shooter I don't think the Nikon counterpart lens is worth the price difference.
Sigma's OS on their 24-105 is incredible so it isn't necessarily an incorrect observation. With the Dustin Abbott review, my guess is that each lens might actually be superior at different shutter speeds. - but on net they are similar. I did have a bad Tamron 45 VC stabilizer and when switched for a new unit it was excellent. On weight, weather sealing and extreme corner sharpness, the Tamron seems to be the slight winner - on micro contrast, the Sigma seems better.
Sigma fART. Sigma sucks Always has always will
Paul O'Neil I totally agree with you. I've been very happy with all my Sigma Art and Sports series lenses, and never found Tamron lenses attractive enough to give anyone of them a go.
Namn L No I'm happy with all my Sigma lenses even pairing them with my Nikon D850.
+Namn
Is someone a fan of Angry Photographer? Have you ever actually tried an Art lens?
I hope they will start coming out with E mount version.
Works good with Sigma mc-11.
Mikael Schatz I am pretty much done with adaptive lens and switching to all native lineup for my A7Rii. Adapter works good but still not great! It will be nice to see companies like Tamron and Sigma start making e mount lens!
ericthestone Sigma will release e mounts soon!
For what's worth which ain't much, I have the Tamron on order from you guys.
If people research these 2, they will find them so close that it is a difficult choice. It becomes a matter of where the +++ are something you need.
What rarely gets mentioned in any of these reviews is that Tamron has the best (at the moment) customer service reputation out there. That to me given all things being almost equal, is the tipping point. Nobody seems to think that customer service is important, especially some manufacturers. I suppose in a culture where $3000 cameras and $2000 lenses are considered disposable that might be fair. Tamron found a niche and they are killing in it.
Poor customer service has kept me away from stuff, and company's.
For me, the Tamron has that little bit of magic about it. Granted I'm not a technical shooter, so I don't know which one is actually better but I feel more love for the Tamron than the Sigma from the shots we saw :-)
+Prashanth
"Correcting for aberrations = more glass = flatter image."
I've seen no example of a blinded test where people can tell the difference between a "flat" image and a "deep" image. Feel free to provide a case of that happening :-)
In these videos Canada always looks so wholesome and Little House On The Pararie'ish,but also quite boring.Have no idea if it is or not.Think Chris and the team do a great job.But yeah compared to London,you can just tell people in Canada look educated.
I visited Calgary a few weeks back (I live in Ann Arbor Michigan) and thought it was a lovely city. One that I could actually see myself living in one day. It really is as nice as this video made it seem. I though it also had plenty of stuff going on (I'm more outdoorsy than city though, so that's just me).
The lens review of The Camera Store are very rare and I wish they were more frequent.
Oooo that GH5 walking shot. Also always love it when Chris lets loose and lets a few f***s fly away.
I use both Tamron and Sigma lenses and I’m more than happy with both companies. My 24-70 is the previous model of the Tamron and I find it an excellent lens, so good I have no intention of up dating it.
Corner sharpness will not matter when using this lens, or any full frame lens, on a crop sensor camera like a Nikon D500 where the sensor uses the center of the lens and leaves out the corner areas. You get a new equivalent focal range of 36-105mm (on a Nikon APS-c 1.5 crop) but you will be using the absolute sharpest area of the glass (the center) and therefor should be pretty sharp edge to edge. This is why I only use FX (full frame) lenses on my DX (crop sensor) cameras like my D500, better image quality edge to edge.
Amazing review and your 4K video quality! Love the fact that you mentioned shooting with the GH5!
i have the tamron and i have to say its an amazing lens. sharp, fast and feels solid.
the only thing left to find out about i feel like would be the durability
With an aluminum alloy body I don’t think so
Thank you Sir. Appreciated. Tamron G2 it is.
Too bad for Sigma they've lost to Tamron. If they have instead complemented the 24-35mm f/2.0 with a new 35-70mm f/2.0 I would have chosen the 35-70mm f/2.0 over the Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 in a heartbeat.
I agree but it would most likely be a 35-50/2 which isn't that useful.
for video shooters the focus direction on the sigma works better
But those onion rings...
At 9:25 in the video, we are shown a highrise in the distance with the cameras at 70mm @ F11, 1/8th, 2000 ISO. Looking at the two pictures, the one taken with the Sigma is clearer than the other one. If I'm looking at the two lenses for clarity, I would choose the Sigma over the Tamron based upon this picture.
These ain't lab conditions. I would highly recommend not to choose any glas just by comparing a few or in this case ONE shot/s.
4:43 to 5:37 Pretty awesome walking shot 👌🏼
Can't wait for my 35 to arrive! Been a Tammy fan since I bought my 90mm Di VC USD a couple years ago after I bought my first full frame. They've really stepped up their game and so I'm sticking with them. I now have their 90mm and the excellent 15-30. Now waiting for the 35 which the seller won't be sending til next Tuesday since this week is pretty much their version of Thanksgiving.
I was blessed with a good copy of the original G1 Tamron lens. The biggest down side was AF accuracy out of the box. AFMA allowed me to fix these issues, I know many photographers who couldn't. I hope that they have fix the AF issues with the G2 like the new 85 mm VC. I was surprised how accurate the 85mm was from Tamron. Let's hope it has the same accuracy.
Were these both AF Fine Tuned? And if so, did you use the usb dock for the Sigma?
Good question
The tamron has a tap in console so it would only be fair to have the Tamron fine tuned as well...
The D850 can automatically fine tune lenses too. So unless there are problems at various focal lengths there wouldn't be much need for either USB solution.
....and how is that a camera can automatically fine tune lenses?
This says D500, but same process. Came in with the D5 & D500....
nps.nikonimaging.com/technical_solutions/d500_tips/af/auto_af_fine-tuning/
Just watched this and appreciated your wry humor (yes, US Spelling). This is a great comparative video and very helpful.
getting the Tamron , can;t wait to place the order tonight
It's nice to see Tamron and Sigma pushing each other to do good things.
Just got back from a trip to BC, shooting primarily with a sigma 17-50, and 150-600 C. I bought both lenses and a used 7D mkii for around the same price of canon 24-70 F4.0L IS, and 70-200 F4.0L IS.
Not saying I wouldn't love to have the L glass though.
I've been struggling on which one to get. Both seem very viable, but I may end up getting the Tamron lens. Thank you very much for this helpful video!
Awesome! This will help me a lot!
For some peoples Bokeh is more important than a little corner soft then sigma is the choice and IS very helpful on night shot hand held . As much as I like Tamron but these two main reason I pick Sigma .
If only there was a way to objectively use reliability statistics as well. Just like you can find out which car is more or less reliable. It surely must be factored in. So you buy a lens for 40% less than a Canon/Nikon but then spend weeks & dollars getting it calibrated/repaired/replaced.
What's that worth?
Excellent and very informative video, great job guys.
Really good reviews!
When you have to pixel-peep your image to find defaults, you know that's an excellent lens lol. They're both outstanding. In my situation, I chose sigma because my local photography store doesn't sell any of Tamron's. In conclusion, your tests in low light is an excellent way to verify a lens performance. Very good review, sir!
Super helpful video. Thanks!
These both look like great lenses overall, I keep wondering about the Tokina 24-70 f/2.8. Granted, it's not stabilized or weather sealed, but by all indications it is much sharper at f/2.8 than either of these, especially out to the corners. Thoughts on that one?
Yay, a review I was hoping for! I'd get the Tamron just because the zoom's the way I'm used to with my Nikon lenses, but I also enjoy the two Tamrons I own. Happy both lenses are so good.
i would make sure prior to testing their sharpness they are focus tested on a focus target/finely tuned if need be, as from my experince new lenses can be slightly out.
Thanks for the review, sold my Canon 24-70mm and looking to replace it - w/o going to the mk2. Was considering the Sigma due to having shot with the 35mm ART and was blown away. The Tamron boasts new tech, but haven't had much experience with them overall. Now the question is: do I save the coin and get the Sigma or go all-in for the Canon mk2 version.
Dang, I know this comment is over 4 years old, but if you see this, what lens did you end up getting?? I have a Canon RP and considering the Tamron if not the Canon EF v2
@@cjinreallife3864 after lots of testing, I changed course and ended up going back to the trusty workhorse Canon 24-105mm mk2 lol... go figure. I'm now all-in with mirrorless (R5 and R3) and also all-in on RF glass now. You can't go wrong with either lens option really, but if you're already mirrorless... go for the new RF glass if you can.
I wish sigma or Tamron would make a 24-70 for Sony E. It's a market that is sorely lacking a competitor!
Well this was pretty timely for me. Just bought a full frame Canon body and the widest lens I have for it is 50mm. Think I'm gonna go with the Tamron.
I think the little girl in the pink hat at 8:28 is feeling a little terrified of the whole fire-breathing dragon thing
Haha. At exactly 3 minutes, I thought that was Martina Navratilova sneaking up behind you, Chris.
We purchased the Tamron a couple months back and we're doing video exclusively. The VC, while good, does give these really jarring jitters when filming in 60 fps. I've seen other reviews where others have experienced the same thing. Can anyone comment on that?
So, Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 VC (G2) wins over Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 Art OS, but loose to Canon 24-70 f2.8 L (II) in therms of sharpness. Means Sigma art is not worth that high tag price at all. And it's heavy. Thanks for review! People pictures do not look sharp in samples for both lenses, BTW.
That onion ringing on the Tamron is a deal breaker for me. I would go with the sigma art lens for sure.
Thanks for the great video! I just picked up the Nikon D850, would you favor the sigma 24 to 70, versus the 24 to 105 for a better walk around, every day lens? Thanks so much for your time
I'm getting Sigma ART. Both seem to produce similar images with some differences those can be ignored. I had Tamron 24-70 older model for few months and Tamron's quality control was not impressive. The major issue was being very soft wide open and it was looking very cheap in hand. Have Sigma ART lenses, no complaints whatsoever. I generally don't bother about minor issues in images like CA.
Good reviews Chris.
Nice review!
great to see a youtube channel with that many subs from Calgary! keep it up, will visit the store soon
Guys we need another elderly DSLR review lol.
You found the VC better on the Sigma, Dustin Abbott found it better on the Tamron...OY!
Great video! May I ask did you find some focusing accuracy issues with the Tamron? I saw some reviews about it, but not sure. Thanks!
I tried 2 sigma 50mm f1.4 art lenses and both had inconsistent focus issues, ie. On tripod, focusing on the same object single shot drive, using a remote, I would get one shot that's front focusing one shots thats rear focusing and another one really sharp all in random orders. Of course it's more pronounced the wider the aperture. Did you experience af issue with the sigma zoom?
I can't part with my Nikokn 28-70 F2.8 especially now that I got a new SWM in it.
You always make top reviews and awesome quality in all footage. Top notch, also sound is a blast. Love that. Regarding the 24-70 which is crucial for all pros there are some things I may disagree about. Fact is that VC/VR best is tested on live footage and of course stills. Sigma can not even get close there. Nor Canon, Nikon. On D850 its hard to say but Tamron give Nikon a real fight. Being sharper on many widths starting from f 2,8. Nikon better on some. NO direct comparision but on Canon 5dsr and Canon newest 24-70 almost the same results. They tend to be sharper at different focal lengths. We need to do severe pixelpeep to see it. Real time world. What we called 3rd party is today game changer due to price. I use the Tamron. Its a blast.
Love the wearing strap from PENTAX,
PENTAX in my heart 4ever... First dlsr 🙂
For the prime , i love Art series but when it's come with Fast Zoom lenses , Tamron has always been my first choice :D :D I can not wait to pick The G2
2:33 @ that's what every girl tells me whenever I ask for a date..
How come there's no Pentax love for either of these lenses. Now we're in the full frame game too
We're too big of a market, they fear to not being able to provide enough lens probably.
Not a big enough market to warrant the R&D investment.
Pentax who? You mean Penthouse.
Well, he was wearing a Pentax strap...
Yeah, kind of a wink that one of the direct competitor of the D850 (technically speaking) is the K-1 ? Even though it will turn to Nikon's advantage at least for the lens choice, a video comparing both bodies would be great.
I will follow up this comment when I have shot the lens more. I had to return my first Tameron 24-70mm f2.8 G2 because of poor lens mounting and APC contacts (bad copy). The replacement lens fixed the problem. I have not shot at all apertures in all lighting but have noticed some focus searching in low light. With the D850 in live view with focus peaking this problem is solved, but who wants to have to do that all the time. I have owned Nikon expensive lenses that had the same issue. What I did find is that at longer focal lengths the sharpness of the lens at even F2.8 was excellent and that VC is one of the selling points of this lens. I had a serious number of keeper photos at very slow shutter speeds at longer focal lengths.
Sigma has a better stabilization than zigma? seriously? You're the only reviewer who said that. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
I tried the Sigma with both the Canon 70D and Canon M50 (too heavy for the m50 though). The speed of the AF was awesome in both cameras. I feel that the Sigma 24-70 is a very reliable lens for videography, Unfortunately I haven't tried the Tamron.
The Tamron's IS is freaking amazing. 1/6 of a second at 70 mm 1/3 pin sharp 2/3 pretty okay. With good technique indoors that is. You'd probably want at least 1/15th to get more consistency outdoor in the real world though.
Those kids on the see-saw at the end looked like they were going to fall off.
Nigel Wang it hurt my nuts watching that.
You seem to handle your lenses without their caps right in the middle of nature...Is this safe?
Historically, Tamron's premium line of lenses has usually delivered a high quality image without regard to price, although some of those have been almost as costly as their Nikon equivalents. In a few cases, the Tamron has been the superior lens. (Thinking about the limited edition Tamron SP 400mm 4.0 v Nikon 400mm 3.5 here.)
Really appreciate the research as well as the practicality of your reviews. Question..which lens serves me best overall...70-200 G2 or the 24-70 G2? I realize that both of these would cover the most of my photography world but, with $ being the concern as to "there can only be one" which one? Thank you in advance Chris...for all your extra mile work!~
I think this Tamron surpasses the Nikon versions in sharpness, size and quality and price. I work with Nikon cameras but their overall goals are due to the competition debako I have been leaning towards the Tamron targets well priced and excellent quality. Nice video.
Great review. And I think I have the same vest.....
Great video and comparison. I like both lenses but u shall purchase the Tamron 24-70 I also want the Tamron 85mm lens.
Also how on earth are you managing to get great low light with the Panasonic GH5
I've noticed a lot of people using the Sigma 18-35 on FF, even on camera's like RED; however it is only usable above 27mm so wouldn't it be a better choice to get the Sigma 24-70 ? The reason I ask is because I am using the a6500 but want to go FF when the A7Riii comes out and want to invest in a new lens.
Thanks for reviewing the new players in the lens market. Love your videos! Have you considered reviewing Light L16?
Just got the Tamron G2 yesterday.
Jeffrey Bank got mine last week, beautiful lens! How’s it been for you?
why did tamron stop making this 24-70mm f2.8 g2 lens for the Sony E mount?????
re your comment on Sigma/Tamron only upping their lens quality game recently - go back 35-odd years to the Tamron SP line of manual focus lenses. They have been down this path before.
Which one do you think it could perform better for wedding photography, specially low light conditions?
Hey, nice review! What's the bag you are carrying though? Is it a camera bag?
So Tamron - for photos, Sigma - for video :)
Nobody doing serious focus accuracy check of third party lenses. Everything seems to be ok during short "testing," but living with third party lens reveals much lens percentage of shoots in focus compared to in house lenses. Also, good stabilization for stills doesn't mean good stabilization for video, because lenses can be jerky during pans and changing of direction during video shooting.
People think that lenses like this are cheaper because Canon or Nikon have bigger profit margin. But actually, Nikon and Canon selling larger number of lenses and are able to have smaller profit per lens. It is quite possible that Tamron and Sigma lenses are cheaper just because they have less materials and knowledge included in making of lenses.