Dave Mays on The Source Staff Quitting Over Benzino (Part 4)
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In this clip, Dave Mays discusses the influence of The Source during its heyday and the way in which the startup platform helped launch the careers of some of the biggest rappers in the '90s. The Washington DC native also talks about the popularity of the publication and the influence of its editors. The founder of the trailblazing hip-hop magazine also details some of the verbal sparing that went on between his content creators and rap groups such as Cypress Hill. And lastly, Dave Mays reflects on the way his friendship with Benzino and how it nearly prompted his own team to boycott his position as their leader.
Interview by Shawn Prez
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I miss the old days... the source rap pages ... vibe ... XXL... murder dog... don diva....alot great publications in those days
Facts! The Source use to have a Graffiti section .... Use to cut pages out of those magazines to tape on the wall lol
Rap Sheet...
Murder dog. Underground old school
@@eyeone7041 facts and word up magazine still was going on 2000 they had real posters in they magazine.
I fucked with all those and Right On!!! 💯💯💯
Benzino ran the source into the ground. Too much street mentality and too much emotions.
And not enough talent
Dave Mays hurt the publication and no neck benzino became the cancer.
I never heard anybody put on a Benzino or RSO song in my entire life..i am 33 years old they should have put them niggas in the last pages of the magazine with all the fake jewelry😭😭😭✋✋✋
Big FACTS about the FAKE JEWELRY in the back😂😂😂
😂😂😂 I’m fucking dead ☠️
Wars On with Mobb Deep was hard though. Prodigy snapped on that shit.
@@kingkobun81 prodigy carried that track.
I fucked with Rock the Party and Figadoh(with Scarface and Snoop) tho
Benzino had the staff ranking his projects like they was classic 😆 now he known as *Coi Leray* daddy
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Coi Leray dad, Stevie J’s friend, “Love & Hip-Hop guy”
That's funny considering I don't even know who coi is.
Maybe to the young generation
😂 lol
It all came down to Benzino and Made Men receiving more mics than established hip hop groups. It was laughable to see Eminem get 4 mics and Made Men get 4.5. That was the beginning of the end of the Source. They should have never had Made men or RSO albums rated. If not they would have lasted much longer
It was the made men album... not RSO.
@@lensuber919 I had checked afterwards and you are correct. I’ll edit my comment. I appreciate the knowledge
@@charliecheetah4654 just wanted to help you on that brother.
I remember buying the Made Man album because it got 4.5 mics.
@@toreyjoseph1286 the album should have got two and a half mics.
I bought that MADE MEN album off the strength of the SOURCE giving it 4.5 mics.
Once I heard that album, it was a wrap for me and the SOURCE 🤷♂️
The fact that Benzino created a fake identity to give that album 4.5, and rated Eminem less?? I felt that was very low down and dirty
Facts! I was so confused when i listened to the album.
Facts
I wanted to buy it when it got 4.5 But I never got a chance to. I kind of like the first single and tommy’s theme with the Lox wasn't bad
@@BroKhalidMuhammad That was the best song. After that, TRASHHHHHHH 😂
Dave looks like a former mobb boss who's in witness protection.
He’s hiding from oldzino 😂
Benzino sold more copies of The Source than he did with that group Almighty RSO lol
and Little Brother shoulda got five mics for "The Minstrel Show", AND a cover for it.
Totally agree!! That album is so thorough!!
I agree. How many mics did it get tho?
Im 44 I remember the source having a shit load of almighty rso ads every month AND THEY SUKD
Especially the commercial on the end source awards.
Made men lmaoo
“Ray’s got AKs to Dave May’s head.
Every issue there’s an 8 page
Made mens spread” - Eminem
“I gotta hit The Source, I need my other half a mic
Because that _Southerplayalisticadillacmuzik_ was a classic, right!”
They always looked over the south.
@Christopher Lewis they did?!?!?
Aquemini got 5 mics
Naw Dave the editors was right. The almighty RSO was below trash. Them not wanting to write about the group had nothing to do wit yall beef. Yall had the nerve to wanna give them 5 mics? FOH
I remember when they were passing their cassette tape out at Kennedy plaza in providence RI. I was a sophomore in high school 😂. I never liked their music and there were much better artists in Boston at that time. However, I like Benzino that’s my guy 😆
@@edieselentertainment 😂😂😂 see that should tell you right there that their music so trash that they had to give it away. I can't stand Benzino either so much that I feel sorry for Coi Leray. SMDH
They gave made men album a 4.5 mic rating which was formed after the demise of the rso.
@@Marleyfresher her music is as terrible as her dads 🤮
@@michaelvega3157 yeah pretty much except that one song wit Lil Durk only cause he's on it 🤷🏽♂️ lol
I thought he was Ringo Starr for a second
This shit took me tha fuq out lol
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Benzino is one of the reasons The Source collapsed and Mays was contributing to that by managing him and letting him punk him
Facts!! 💯
True dat I think this was Eminem reference on the sauce Diss track
@@dwilkinsworld man, the sauce & nail in the coffin without a doubt were the “end all” to anybody’s career, Benzino crossed the line too many times, the Die Another day record he overstepped the lines and the other where he threatened Hailie
Worst one beefing with eminem really destroyed the source. Beefing with a bigger artist can end careers permanently.
I disagree the white editors who knew nothing about hip-hop nor black culture who started the source and continued their drama behind the scenes created a lot of hate towards rap artists. Benzino created the street credit because of his father being a heavy hitter in the streets during the 70s and 80s
The 90s were bias you couldn't get a 5 mic west coast album but plenty of east coast albums got the stamp....which people probably felt was some bullshit
very true
The only west coast album at that time that deserved a 5 was death certificate. And only illmatic and brand nubian 1st album got a 5 during that time they retroactively gave out 5s in the late 90s. I could be wrong thi
Pharcyde and Hyro crew got a lot of love and they’re from Oakland. If you were dope lyrically back then, they took notice. I’m talking about early to late 90’s.
True, but Cube's first two albums were rated 5 mics...so they weren't completely biased.
@@KardiFan2000 cube moved to an East Coast label though
This is great interview!
Agreed.
I must admit..vlad tv stepping their game all the way up man...got interesting interview one after the other sometimes more than 1 at the time going..
He saw Art of Dialogue was on his ass late last year. So yeah u right, Vlad kicked it in overdrive, hired a few new interviewers and started hittin us with double ups every day. Lol
@@lukekhalid896
Lol facts...I still don't respect how they take off our comment everytime we say some real shit that might offend their guesses though
No seriously... he never NOT has a good interview going..
Nahh he said F , Lord Jamar and Godfree.. where them boys at??? Guess vlad was right.
It all started when they gave Benzino’s group 5 mics for their album. It was either 4 1/2 or 5 mics given to them. I listened to that hangman album and it was unbelievably trash. That was the first strike. LOL.
Then they put Benzino in the greatest 100 rhymes of all time article. MULTIPLE times! And they put his rhymes in there with all the great classic MC’s & verses out there-- everybody was done with the Source lol.
That was horrible.
We were done! Enough was enough.
"Rob Marriott reviewed the first OutKast album. He gave it 4.5 mics. I agreed with his opinion and the rating stood. When Ray found out about this (for some reason Ray just hated OutKast, and you have to wonder if that is why it took them so many years to get a Source cover), he hit the roof. He walked into Rob’s office and struck up a very loud conversation. I was next door hanging out in James Bernard’s office and we heard all of this yelling and screaming. It sounded like a fight was about to jump off. I walk into Rob’s office just as Ray is leaving and catch the last volley of “fuck yous.” Ray continues down the hall to Dave’s office. I ask Rob what is going on and he tells me that Ray started bugging out over the Outkast review, calling the group bullshit, and making threats about what he would do if the next RSO album doesn’t receive similarly high marks.
I’m like, ‘really?‘ And walk down to Dave’s office in search of Ray. I get there and see Ray sitting on Dave’s sofa so I walk over and stand right over him. I start yelling at him and he pops up off the couch like he wants to do something. Now Ray is only five feet tall in Timbs and two pairs of socks, so the whole thing looks ridiculous. Dave is looking nervous and by now other people have made it back to Dave’s office to see where this will all end up. Ray and I square off for about ten very tense seconds and then sensing that he’s not ready to throw a punch, I give him a few more “fuck you, nigga”s and then start walking out of Dave’s office. On the way out I can hear Ray screaming my name, calling me all kinds of bitches and motherfuckers, but he’s only saying this shit as I’m walking away, so I’ve got his number."
Reginald C. Dennis
Says it all really… 🤷🏻♂️
Interesting story my man. I really use to enjoy yo work back in the day. Also my high school homeboy was working there in the early 90s, with yall. His name was Todd Barbie he went by the Derelict something I forgot. But I'm glad you still around brother!!!
Damn
Good for you to stand on integrity and morals.
Dave Mays created a problem and bringing Benzino was the beginning of the end.
Great interview.
Benzino reading every comment
He has a point. The writing definitely got a bit disrespectful after awhile.
Yup sure did
The source man those were the days. Heavy rotation really made or break an album. Snoop should of got 5 mics for Doggie Style.
I used to live for the issues of the Source...then it turned into a damn Avirex Ad catalog
This and the azie interview are super exclusive 5 mic style
Long story short the editors were right u showed favoritism to your friends cause nobody was interested in Benzino’s group ever, if nobody wanted to listen to them what made you think people wanted to read about them
Made Men used to have 4 to 5 page ads in front of the magazine and I always use to wonder who tf these niggas are lol I literally never heard a Benzino song until "You Could Be My Bitch"
Once you lose credibility it's hard to get it back. When the source gave Benzino and his group more mics than other groups it lost people.
"Used to dream of being unsigned hype. Until I was crushed by Dave Mays..."
The Game - Dreams
"Almost let my pen fall asleep on the page"
'Thought i saw Eazy talking to Jam Master Jay'
@@selfiekroos1777 you skipped a line my g
@eliminator173
I'm a huge Eazy fan. Saw the comment and chimed in to represent godfather of the west
Bro look like al pachino from that one movie lol I can’t Unsee it
Carlito’s Way is the Movie. And you’re Right.
@@rayglenn on god that’s it u got it 😂
@@GG.510 As soon as you said Al Pacino, Carlito’s Way jumped in my Head. You nailed that one Bro. Good Call Out Homie.
@@rayglenn appreciate it g
😂😂 Carlito
"No more Source to street credit, them days is dead
Ray's got AK's to Dave Mays's head"
-Eminem
Listen to 2 of Eminem's greatest diss tracks if you haven't already.
Eminem - The Sauce
Eminem - Nail in the Coffin
The Source was ridiculously biased towards the East Coast that’s why
@ Viper Records so OutKast getting 4 1/2 mics over and over was cool? DoggyStyle not worth 5 mics? Or The Chronic?
Bruh stop
Cube had to use East coast producers to get 5 mics
@@JV-in9kk doggystyle and Chronic deserved 5 mics and they only didn’t get them because of bias.
Hearing it from the man’s own mouth, it still sounds like he was in the wrong
well if they work for him hes the boss its that simple...
So basically benzino destroyed the integrity of the magazine . I mean with a classic albums and how they rated Them with everything to me as a young man loved hip-hop I would always look at what they felt was superior and sometimes there were some that I disagreed with like only built for Cuban LinX should’ve gotten more doggy style should’ve gotten wore in a whole host of others but then ones they got right like tribe called Quest and Nas, solidified the true hip-hop critique not like you have now where everybody just put out trash in the young generation just likes it they have no clue. I think those source as hip-hop grew into the 2000s I think at a certain point in order for it to grow the rating systems couldn’t have a hold on what the consumer was being fed. But then again when you don’t rate albums like that And hold the culture to a higher standard this is why we have the trash music we have now.
They were not lying Benzino was garbage. I knew something was cray when bum ass albums started getting 5 mics. Like the Fix by Scarface that shit wasn't no 5 mic album! Last of a dying breed was and they gave that shit 4 mics!!
Damn, sounds like the Editors wanted to keep it Dope.💯
Facts🔥
Murder Dog was such a better magazine
Almighty RSO was super WACK
Too much yelling on there songs on there ep. I can tell there ep sounded like early 90s album that's could've been put out in 91/92. By 94 hip hop rapping skills advanced quickly.
Y’all realize he didn’t answer the first question lmao…whole lotta word garbage
Like a politician 😂
The source fucked up when every second page became an Ad ..it went from a skinny magazine full of dope content to a thick ass magazine full of ads mixed with shit Content.. they.definately started to think their shit didn't stink.. unfortunately..I bought every issue from the first being the Eazy E tribute in 95 then every month for the next 3/4 years possibly longer to be honest and that's all the way down here in Australia but the source turned wack
I liked the ads cuz it reminded me of when an album was dropping
Any1 remember the p-cutta mixtape series street wars yooooo that was the 1st time I heard the sauce
The source is #1 best hip hop magazine of all time, love the source awards show,still have all the issues
Lmao. Nah. XXL better and they had Elliot Wilson. Also, Benzino gave RSO 4.5 mics lol hey trippin
Word they dropped da ball with dat little brother album review
Yeah remember when Cypress Album Stoned Raiders was given just 3.5 mics
I started disliking source because of Cypress Hill but I still read the magazine, only because I was in prison 🤣🤣🤣....just kidding, I truly loved the source. Eminem took on the source magazine, that took alot of nuts
I remember Classic Limited Edition by Made Men getting a high mic rating. The bias was strong with the publication.
WOW....This was INTERESTING, had no idea!!.
But at one point the story was its Benzinos company...when and How??
I use to rip pages out and hang em on my wall as a shorty
Hahaha me too
Dudes was taking them mics serious, cuh!
Source magazines were thicker then benzino daughter😂😂
boo
@@auraholyultimababybaby9367 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Ozone had a nice Lil 8 year run in the 2002s
Let’s be honest the Almighty RSO did suck.
Is it just me or Bro looking like a video game character
Bet he won't ask about the Star and Buck section
I could see giving it a 3 cause it's your friend. But even that is pushing it.
All these "based on actual events" movies and TV docu-movies...maybe it's time for one on The Source! 🤔
Well spoken aint he?!
The writers were right about RSO being whack but so what? That's Dave's magazine too and RSO are his guys. All Dave was doing was trying to give his guys some promo and help their career grow. Business is business. The writers got too high and mighty over the Almighty RSO. Most people could see that the RSO ship would sink not sail. I see nothing wrong with Dave trying to throw his homies a bone. (Pause) It's not like RSO was the first wack rappers to be featured in the Source Magazine. Let the guy feature his friends if he wants. You can tell that the writers just didn't like RSO personally, and the issue really wasn't about journalistic integrity.
Dude talking real af
People hate on Benzino but he had nothing to do with the mics.He actually gave the magazine credibility
All Dave had to do is be honest. If he would have disclosed his relationship with Benzino/RSO/Made Men upfront and just told people the album will be out and for them to judge it for themselves.
High profile critics always run into this problem. You gain a reputation as a trusted name. Then a friend or family member wants to use your name to push a project. You dont want to say no, but you also don't want to seem biased. It's a tough situation but it's best to split that baby
Disclose the relationship and then back off.
This thumbnail looked like a gta video game character.
Dave Mays look like a walking Just For Men advertisement
I thought this was Tony Stark when I came cross my feed
Sounds like the editors weren't for the culture. I remember all of this like it was yesterday. I was a devoted fan of the source for the graffiti page and the album reviews and hip hop quotable.
Only read certain artist interviews after they took away the Graff pages and all the artist that were worth checking weren't in the source anymore that was enough for me to move on.
Scratch Magazine was DOPE! but didn't last long.
Imagine how many mics today’s rappers albums would get 😂
😂 ‘wires’
Is their a such thing as negative ratings, ie - 7 for Lil whomever!!!!
Dave Mays is leaving our how the Almighty RSO did suck though 🤷🏿♂️
Where is Vlad?? Anybody know? Just curious that’s all
Dave is too kind. Benzino is taking your creation and dream and is making your story his. Everything about the source including the source awards was all Dave's.
Benzino being cocky and letting his boyz make the staff uncomfortable and other things is why the source is no more! Benzino fucked that bag up! From the outside looking in…
Too many hands in the cookie jar lol
That’s cause The Sauce was hating on the West Coast let’s be real…what 💿 from the West Coast got 🎤 🎤 🎤 🎤 🎤 at that time?
That's what happens when you have vultures in something we built,Money put them in power position.
No excuse for giving Benzino 5 mics...None!
When hip hop was getting big in the 90s
They was a phenomenon within the fan base. Hip Hop was all about division then. First you had real Hip Hop in one corner. Then you had East Coast west coast over there. But i guess the source kinda cultivated that. The source kinda buried some good bands like Kottonmouth Kings. Showed them no love.
Damn didn't realize so many ppl said fuck the source lol
The fact that Benzino created a fake identity to give that album 4.5, and rated Eminem less?? I felt that was very low down and dirty
No more Source with street cred,
Them days is dead
Ray's got AKs to Dave Mays's head
Every issue there's an eight page Made Men spread
I miss the source magazine
Made Men were slightly corny (the group name especially) but the Almighty RSO were the shit.
The wiseguyz album is a hip hop classic
Nah.
its a dope album overall, but classic material? nah son
Lol
@@guikatinskas dope for it's time during mafioso era. Solid but needed some more elements to make it a classic. Shame the rso lp had more promotion than wiseguys album and no sequel album was released in the late 90s.
Nobody listened To that garbage ass album
Gotti choosing to run with Ja over 50 and the supreme team backing Ja not 50 was their downfall. They went with the fake gangster not the real 1
Shawn Perez is a better interviewer Than Vlad. If it was Vlad he would’ve either asked Dave Mays if he knew 2Pac. Or he would’ve took something Dave said and referenced it back to something Lil Boosie said. Then he would’ve asked Dave Mays what he thought of it.
Prez sounds like he’s reading his questions. He’s not talking fluently; it’s like he’s talking to not mess up a word or something.
Dave Mayes looks like Ringo Starr
That beard wasn’t edged right. 😝
Lanched Cypress 😂🤣
Damn if only they gave EM 5
Dont use hairdye on your beard 🧔🏻♂️ leave the grays guys leave the gray smh 🤦🏾♀️
Why does guys like this not get called a culture vulture.......in the 90s he was talking and dressing black to make money of it.........
Kids check out hand of a dead body! Scarface and ice cube!
I have the box video on my page 📄
Was Benzino strong arming Dave Mayes behind the scenes.....
so Benzino had issues with alot of people back then..
WHAT IS HE SAYING???
Mighty RSO was garbage but That made men album was actually fire and had a few bomb features especially the joint featuring Master P and the Lox on another joint.... alot of yall saying Benzino was trash are just going along with whats heard or said. Now i never said that he n made men were the best shit since blunts n backwoods, Im saying I dont get the hate. But to each his own....
Now bro he was trash.. rso made men.. 🗑
vlad tv taking a page outa no jumpers book wit this interview
Adam22 is gay
It was the eminem and benzino beef that ended the source and dave mays chose to ride with benzino and made men. Murder Inc, death row records and benzino tried to destroy eminem and it failed.
Made men an rso was trash.. 0ne 🎤