I Ran Until I Threw Up - EXTREME Marathon Training
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- čas přidán 2. 04. 2023
- Well that was BRUTAL! A massive week of the marathon block which had an explosive end. In today's video I tackle a massive long run marathon session and break down how I smashed my mileage per week PB! And after a lot of trial and error have come to the conclusions I need to cut caffeine from my marathon fuelling strategy.
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Daniel in the morning is the most relatable thing that I have ever seen 😂
Mornings are the worst!!
Before now, it has never occurred to me that a person could spew and resume running immediately afterwards. You are impressively strong.
having vomited on a run previously (i'm 100 times slower than phily - just ran too soon after eating once) i can confirm that you feel _so much better_ after you've been sick and carrying on running feels totally fine. It's a bit like being car sick and as soon as you've got it out you feel better - it's not like you're actually sick, there's just something sitting in your stomach that it's not happy about aha.
Philly, 8 miles into fighting off serious urge to vom, still looked WAY happier than Daniel did first thing that morning! Way to power through it! (Oh, and good job by you too, Philly.)
She back , she yack! But we stay for that good craic 🎉❤
"There is no such thing as a perfect block" is such a great thing to hear. I always push myself down so much when I miss a run. Thanks for being such an inspiration, Phily!
“I ran 19 miles on a treadmill and enjoyed it” is a detail that requires more explanation.
Expecting to hate it probably plays a role.
🤣🤣LOL Daniel's face mixing drinks. I love it! His face is saying "It's too damn early for any of this and now I'm on camera?" I love Daniel, he seems like a really nice guy. I think you should keep him. 💗💗
Since I am currently laid low by a chest infection, I really envy you - even the vomit episode! There was a time when throwing up at the end of a session was seen almost as a badge of honour, though these episodes usually happened at the end of an intensive track session. Very good session, you are clearly getting in superb shape.
Great episode, thanks for the content!
So with you on the Caffeine gels. I took one before a 10k once (no idea why) and literally needed the toilet for the entire race and ran straight for the portaloos at the finish line. NEVER AGAIN.
WOW!!!!! That truly looks like the grind one that round. Your mental toughness shines through on a week like this one. I know that will pay dividends during the race. Daniel gets a gold star for taking one for the team. Love the grind and thanks for taking us along on your journey.
That was a seriously impressive chunder.... as good as the run. Serious committment to both!
Amazing training Philly. I ran 21 miles on The Middlewood yesterday and lost 4 miles from my watch recording so was intrigued to hear you comments about GPS on The Middlewood
Impressive week Phily :) Definitely better to find out something doesn't work before the big day!
My highest monthly volume in only a touch over 100 miles, it boggles my mind how people build up to this. Then again, my easy mile pace is around 8:30 so I'd be running about a third longer to to that distance!
Phily, I love every single one of your videos. Especially love watching them before working out. Today I was running and thinking to myself "be tough like Phily!"
The exorcist directors called - they want to make your epic spew into a whole new movie 😂
That long session was badass Phily 🔥💪🏾
As always, I love the content Philly!! ❤
Daniel is a hero
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Go Phily go. You are great. Love the grind.
I'm really enjoying your content guys! 🙂
Congrats on 98 miles that’s awesome. I am doing 1st week of your 10k high volume training plan for the third week. My 10k race is now actually 11 weeks away so looking forward to seeing how week 2 goes :)
Also I feel super vindicated never drinking caffeine in my life that was a lot of reality growse 😂
Kudos for keeping it real!
Also amen to "there is no such thing as a perfect block".
Do you have regular down weeks, focussing on recovery?
What makes you nervous about tapering? Is it because the race is close?
My favourite running CZcamsr by far👌
Ran 20 on MWW on Sunday, Rose Hill to Macclesfield and back. Ran out of trail so had to bomb down the main road like you did Philly to get to 20 miles before returning to my car. Saw Jonny Mellor blasting along 🏃🏼🏃♀👍
I’ve not seen that quality level of vomming since freshers week 2012.
Well done on you’re record week of training. 😊
Great training blog and that's some week. Training for Copenhagen myself 🇩🇰
Philly are you going to do a meet and greet in Copenhagen? My sister and I are also going out there to run the marathon and it would be really awesome to meet you! Love your videos and that was an epic long run! :)
Dan has made some amazing progress I havnt only watched your most recent vids.
as a fellow high performance athlete (competitive swimmer) I just wanted to say that I couldn`t help but laugh after you puked on the side of the road and then keep going because last thursday I almost puked in the middle of some intervals 😂Thank you for sharing your olympic journey! I'm training for Wold Masters Championships this year and it really motivates me to see you! Besos from Mexico City
I had a caffeine gel once! It was so rank. Never again. It's actually amazing when you throw up and feel great immediately! 😅 love the grind!
thanks for the motivation for my run in the morning :))
Sick content!
Great effort Philly. Sadly I've tried caffeine gels on long runs on a couple of occasions with similar results, the last occasion especially embarassing as my stomach let go outside the driveway of a large house on a posh housing estate. Frustrating as I generally have a strong constitution but it lets me down when long runs are combined with gels so have given up on doing a marathon.
love the grime...some sections of the m-way could defo do with a bit of drainage work
While I realize I am nowhere near the running machine that you are, I just finished a 29.1 mile run and I was so tempted to go out after my 13 mile run and do another .9 miles. I didn’t. There’s always next week. #lovethegrind
I'm mainly a trail runner, I ran my first track workout ever today!! 4 x 200 and 4 x 400. I was thinking about how fast you run your short distances. I only had to run 45 sec 200s and 90 sec 400s but to me I felt like I was going sooo fast. your videos won't make me a track convert :) but I do appreciate how I can run on a track compared to trails, even if it does mean running in a circle :)
Great run 👍 Gels are a hit and miss with me, I take them but the texture makes me gag. Thankfully I've not felt the need to throw up yet. I'm training for my first ultra in July and have just started my fueling practice trying to find what works for me. A good friend of mine swears by normal food like sandwiches, etc. Not sure that would suit you though in your races 😂🤣🤣😂
Well done Philly! Obviously not well done on the throwing up bit that's just horrible after a run
I'm very impressed you didn't go do those extra two miles. I had a similar situation last week when I did 39.6 miles (a huge amount for me) and I was very tempted to go out and round it up to 40 but tbh I couldn't be arsed in the end 😂.
I’m so excited to share with you all (in the UK) regarding the protein shaker; I actually found one similar in TK Maxx! With a separate compartment as well!! So happy! 😃
Keep smashing it Philly! Do you think the added drinking contributed to your nausea? I feel weird if I have too much liquid in me!
Hey phily how do u avoid injury with such a big week? Could u do a video on how to avoid injury please?
Oh, man, post long run bath and nap is my JAM. Try some Epsom salts if you haven't
Dude the colour of that vom was impressive 🌟
First time I had a SIS caffeine gel I also did an exorcist in the nearest bush. I avoid caffeine like the plague now
Oof.
Guess better now than during the marathon
I bought a vest and am practicing fueling for a trail 25k via long runs and some longer, less intense workouts. Don't need a lot during the race, but a little bit still helps.
How clever practicing intake _before_ the run. When I ran a half marathon I was surprised to see that they offer banana pieces and drinks and had a bit of both. Well - I took a detour into the forrest 15mins after that and had to 💩🙈
98 miles is a truly impressive distance. I think I run that in 4 months. Don't know how you do it. Do you never have sore muscles the next day in a level that prevents you from running again?
Thanks for sharing and good luck with the training!
“Caaaaaannnnn, anybodyyyyyy, find meeee, somebody toooooo, aack!”Freddie would be proud-as we all are!
I used to do prob' 9/10 long runs on the treadmill- indeed prob' 70% of ALL my runs were on a treadmill lol !
Always cool to see someone fetch up during a run... kinda hardcore stuff lol :D
The barf moment gave me PTSD from those nights at the bar that are all you can drink 😂😂
That editing tho 😂. “It was at this moment that she Didn’t knew…”.
Well done Phily, that's an awesome mileage! I hit 70 miles in training for the first time last month, which was a nice milestone. You're definitely more disciplined than most of us not to go out and do another 2!
I had a friend who in an 80 mile ultra struggled with gut issues from mile 55-70, threw up and then got a second wind to the end, so much so they were just a minute off the victory. What led you to isolate the caffeine gel as the cause of the issue rather than the volume of the drink you were consuming?
Yeah I wondered that too 🤔
Congratulations on your 70 mile week!!
Now that's a proper vom session. 🤮🤮🤮. Nice one 😆. Thought it was going to be a very minor spew but no, well done Philly.
I noticed you said you avoid coffee on usual days. Have you considered you may not be caffeine adjusted. Research I’ve heard indicates getting used to caffeine doesn’t lessen its impact in reducing perceived fatigue but can reduce its shock impact on your digestive system.
What is the thought process behind only liquid fuel and no gels? For me gels are a lot easier on my stomach than liquid sloshing around
Tailwind fuel works for me every time..... on trail marathons and ultras and no gels....!! -
But if you do take a Caffeine Gel (of which I love).... make your dentist happy and have a sip of water after to shift the sugar! @Phily Bowden
You literally left everything out there on the course.
"Allways carry a Mint" 😀
98 Miles is very well done + impressive.
I'm strugling to try and get to (as close as...) 90K on a six days of running/week, but even a single day of migraine messes it up.
At what point (distance/time) would you start fuelling your long run; even if you don’t do the marathon?
Sometimes throwing up can make you feel amazing, or at least get you back to normal immediately, which feels amazing comparatively.
Hmm. Is it a good idea to ditch the gels altogether? The caffeine variety can make me nauseated too. Maybe just not have those ones.
If you were getting your own personal treadmill right now, which one would you get? I ask, because you just did a huge day on one, so would you choose a non powered or powered if you are doing big days?
Impressive barf.
Supercomp Trainer are my favourite evvvva shoe.
All that drink, gels and caffeine and then jiggling it all about sounds like a recipe for disaster!
LET THE RIVERS OF CHUNDER FLOW!!
Keep it real.
Oh yeah tapering very soon for copenhagen as well :)
Can I ask how many carbs are in 1/3 of a bottle?
Dang it I was eating when I pulled this one up
you are a badass 💪🔥
Pro plus tablets are good for caffeine.
Personally, I find the best thing to do after a long run is an ice cold shower, gets you very awake and feeling up to starting productive work. Nothing better than a warm shower but if your wanting to do some work afterwards, ice cold is the way to go.
I think it’s less the caffeine gel and more a huge bowl of oats
Caffeine gels make me jumpy. Probably because I don’t drink caffeine drinks
pretty sure the bottle is a Blender Bottle, you can buy them anywhere online really
I agree!! It's a Blender Bottle and they are great!!
Wow u even throw up at speed …… legend ……😂❤
great vom
If I'd run 98 miles in a week I definitely go jog another 2 😂
No flex, but in 50 years of running, I've never lost anything out the front end like that. And my best PB's are 800m and marathon! Can't say the same for the other end though...🤣
Looking at today’s thumbnail I am starting to think that the barfing guy in the one of the previous videos was a paid actor because this girl certainly does love her vomit content 😂
(ladies and gents this is my an attempt at joke)
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Runners that don’t listen to music are psychopaths. 😂😂
Although I could be wrong, anyone who has trained hard for a marathon or would watch videos with a "love the grind" motto is going to love watching someone *else* vomit.
Your bf reminds me of Professor Lupin
😂😂 I’ll take that!
Throwing up is not such a rare affair
Had my share of ...🤮
Just part of any intence training block, especially on the track
Mentioning your liquid intake ... can not think that all that stuff swooshing around would contribute feel not great 🤢and eventually 🤮
7 x 1 mile, a hard session? 10 Km in total, a quarter of the marathon distance at marathonpace, with breaks!
What do you mean 🤔 She said she ran 20miles. 😅 Distance wise might still be not super special, pace wise definitely tho.
@@beansandrunning I don't count the easy miles, warm up and cooldown. The quality miles in this session count up to 10 k. This certainly is 1 (of 3) of the better sessions in a week, but I'm sure that a pro runner will do significantly harder sessions in a build up to a serious marathon!
@@jacobvandermeulen1970 as far as I know pro runners run about 80%easy pace and only about 20%fast. Just as far as I read studies
@@beansandrunning 20% of 150 km/week would implicate 30 kilometers of quality per week. the 10k of quality in this session is 1/3 of the weekly quality volume. So, not very special in my opinion......
@@jacobvandermeulen1970 you have no idea what you are talking about. Every mile you run counts, and easy milage is fundamental in training, and absolutely "quality miles".
it happened to me in a marathon after eating something in one of the stands, then nausea and stomach cramps. Better before the marathon than during the race.
Yannis Kouros 24 hours world record : 303.306 km (188.68 miles).
Unbroken since 1997. Are you going for it Phily? 😁
It has been broken twice now, in 2021 and 2022 both times by Aleksandr Sorokin it now stands at 319km