[1464] 1.5 Year Update: Master Puck Locks STILL Not Fixed

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    Here’s the original video where I open 10 of these locks in a row: [1197] Opened FAST: Master Lock Puck Locks Comb Picked!
    • [1197] Opened FAST: Ma...
    Check out this video for an explanation of comb picking: [1434] Inside Perspective On “Comb Picking”
    • [1434] Inside Perspect...

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  • @lockpickinglawyer
    @lockpickinglawyer  Před rokem +817

    Here’s the original video where I open 10 of these locks in a row: [1197] Opened FAST: Master Lock Puck Locks Comb Picked!
    czcams.com/video/uxmmwWwW6TY/video.html
    Check out this video for an explanation of comb picking: [1434] Inside Perspective On “Comb Picking”
    czcams.com/video/6DPCE1Ct8U8/video.html

    • @pompomaddons
      @pompomaddons Před rokem +7

      this is the lockpickinglawyer

    • @Mrskarr3524
      @Mrskarr3524 Před rokem +6

      Where have you been LPL
      We were worried

    • @Bear-Seek-Seek-Lest
      @Bear-Seek-Seek-Lest Před rokem +9

      Not sure if you've noticed but the adress is clearly visible on the receipt.

    • @bsgconsulting
      @bsgconsulting Před rokem +4

      @@Bear-Seek-Seek-Lest I was going to say that. For someone who is so concerned with security, he missed a big one.

    • @johnnychang4233
      @johnnychang4233 Před rokem +3

      The reason Master Locks isn't fixing the flaw must be because they think if the lock cost less than the picking tool then the issue is economically self resolved.

  • @GamesFromSpace
    @GamesFromSpace Před rokem +6091

    Masterlock's entire business model might be making locks so bad that LPL spends "hundreds of dollars" buying more of them.

    • @Dash41198
      @Dash41198 Před rokem +109

      It's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it works out for them.

    • @oceanlover1663
      @oceanlover1663 Před rokem +37

      He should return them because they failed.

    • @SICresinwrks
      @SICresinwrks Před rokem +5

      🤣 at this point i believe it

    • @satalia
      @satalia Před rokem +12

      Maybe, but they’ve lost hundreds possibly thousands from me.

    • @XtreeM_FaiL
      @XtreeM_FaiL Před rokem +9

      They are getting a new sale in a 1,5 year.
      Should I buy shares now?

  • @jamesbarca7229
    @jamesbarca7229 Před rokem +1343

    I really like Master locks, myself.
    They're one of the few locks that make me look like a competent lockpicker.

  • @Know-Way
    @Know-Way Před rokem +768

    Actually, it makes sense. Master Lock made millions of these and shipped them to distribution warehouses. LPL's original review crushed sales of the lock, so now there a 50 year supply stockpiled. The redesigned ones won't hit stores for decades.

    • @psylencecy
      @psylencecy Před rokem +142

      @@creamwobbly masterlock...recall? lol

    • @kevsmith562
      @kevsmith562 Před rokem +69

      @@creamwobbly Bold to think they'd ever recall a lock for being terrible

    • @Know-Way
      @Know-Way Před rokem +42

      @@creamwobbly Not saying it was a recall. Saying that sales plummeted so there was lots of inventory that's not being sold.

    • @nathank7989
      @nathank7989 Před rokem +89

      I think you overestimate the likelihood of the average person to look up a review of a lock. The typical purchase will go something like:
      "I need a lock"
      - goes to store -
      "Huh, 'Master Lock', that sounds good. 'Pro-Series', even better!"
      - buys the lock -
      I seriously doubt that LPL's many reviews of Master Lock's terrible products has hurt their sales. Look at the ratings of their products on Amazon, or Wallmart, or Target, or Wallgreens, or wherever the average consumer is going to shop. 99% of people don't know just how unsecure Master Lock's products are and never will know because they haven't thought to check. Master Lock's business model involves selling shoddy products to uninformed consumers, and the average lock purchaser is very uninformed.
      I can practically guarantee that there is no redesigned version, and Master Lock doesn't care because the flaw in their design has a negligible effect on sales. If their target consumer was someone who needed something with actual security and knew about locks this would be a major issue and I would expect a recall and a redesign. However, their target consumer is the person who is going to walk into their local Walmart and walk out with a lock, and assumes that whatever is being sold will provide at least some level of security.
      I have a Master Lock 3SSKDLAF, bought before I started watching LPL and knew better than to buy a Master Lock product. I needed a lock for the door of a U-Haul trailer and Home Depot had what looked like a nice padlock.
      Now I know better. I'm an extremely novice picker, and using a $10 set of picks off Amazon I can open the lock within 30 seconds.

    • @joeskis
      @joeskis Před rokem +16

      Nah, his channel even at 4 million subscribers isn't enough to effect the market that greatly.

  • @brianhignett8954
    @brianhignett8954 Před rokem +87

    Back in the sixties I showed a Lockwood rep. here in Australia, a comb pick I made that would open their "top of the range" padlock at the time. It was the 245 padlock. There was excessive room in the bible, allowing all pins to over lift. This was before CZcams, Locksport, the Internet etc. so the real world risk to their padlock was extremely minimal. We heard back immediately, that things would change, and to their credit, from then on all 245 padlocks had longer driver pins fitted in all chambers, preventing the comb attack. It's an easy fix if certain manufactures just did that, particularly on the higher security products, the cost would be miniscule in the scheme of things. Better still, do away with the flat bladed keys and plugs on high ended products ...

  • @stephbenson7340
    @stephbenson7340 Před rokem +2070

    I've said it before but. The most damning thing about this exploit/vulnerability isn't just the ease with which it can be done. It's the fact that someone comb-picking a lock looks exactly the same to a casual observer as someone using a key on a lock.

    • @stewartj3407
      @stewartj3407 Před rokem +172

      Yea, now that you mention it, I do remember you saying that.

    • @Last_Chance.
      @Last_Chance. Před rokem +30

      ​@@stewartj3407 lmao

    • @TheQuark6789
      @TheQuark6789 Před rokem +78

      And it leaves no damage or evidence

    • @Merennulli
      @Merennulli Před rokem +49

      Yep. Especially now that a lot of us have key organizers that look almost exactly like his Covert Companion folding tool set.

    • @Iris-jw3ci
      @Iris-jw3ci Před rokem +32

      @@Merennulli or if you really wanted to could make a key with comb picking bit on it so it looks EXACTLY like a key & no one would even know.

  • @AeroGraphica
    @AeroGraphica Před rokem +1755

    Masterlock never disappoint, they provide the higher level of bad quality .

    • @Treeclimber1986
      @Treeclimber1986 Před rokem +35

      They provide the Master Level of Bad Quality…..

    • @elijosc1963
      @elijosc1963 Před rokem +6

      @@donnylakehunt4754 shut

    • @christopherreed4723
      @christopherreed4723 Před rokem +14

      @@elijosc1963 It's a troll, probably a bot, since I've seen the same exact post on several separate threads. Flag it, but don't reply to it.

    • @patrickjordan2233
      @patrickjordan2233 Před rokem

      "plumbing the depths....of awful.." 👍👍👍

    • @willj1598
      @willj1598 Před rokem +3

      Well, everyone knows consistency is important to a successful business

  • @WalnutBun
    @WalnutBun Před rokem +560

    Pretty sure I commented this on that video, but I'll say it here too: IMO the biggest problem that a comb pick vulnerability presents is that using a comb pick looks like you're just using a key, meaning you can just do this in front of people and (unless they're paying very close attention for some reason) they won't even notice.

    • @RaspK
      @RaspK Před rokem +79

      Bingo. A rake attack can be disguised a bit, surely, but a comb pick attack looks just about the same as using a key normally.

    • @rickgreer7203
      @rickgreer7203 Před rokem +50

      And if say, this was caught on security video, many would think "they had keys! inside job!" and possibly fire some of their staff and whatever. And in general, attacks that leave no damage are especially bad since it's so hard to prove that as someone with access, you were not involved.

    • @bungaIowbill
      @bungaIowbill Před rokem +4

      You know, I actually think you didn't. But it's quite interesting that both you and Steph Benson made the same point, and both of you started your comments with a statement about how you've said it before. Is there some underlying personality trait that makes a person more likely to both make this observation and to mention if they've made a statement before? Curious.

    • @eyflfla
      @eyflfla Před rokem +6

      @@bungaIowbill (I presume you know) There are bots that copy the top comments in order to get likes and what not. They are getting smarter.

    • @bungaIowbill
      @bungaIowbill Před rokem +5

      @@eyflfla I mean, if it is a bot it is on some serious GPT-3++ shiz if it automatically rephrased this comment like that:
      "I've said it before but. The most damning thing about this exploit/vulnerability isn't just the ease with which it can be done. It's the fact that someone comb-picking a lock looks exactly the same to a casual observer as someone using a key on a lock."

  • @LlanHeinrich
    @LlanHeinrich Před rokem +41

    I've had two bikes stolen in the past using a chain and a masterlock. None of them were cut and I was always confused how it happened. Seeing this channel explains a bit how easy it is. Been avoiding Master lock's products since. Sad to see they'll most likely never will fix their issues.

    • @kusazero
      @kusazero Před rokem +3

      You must be new here, fresh meat

  • @tensazero
    @tensazero Před rokem +900

    The packaging has better security than the actual lock

    • @Medevah
      @Medevah Před rokem +13

      Right!? Those pesky zip ties!

    • @brokedude9999
      @brokedude9999 Před rokem +20

      The packaging takes 5 seconds to open vs 0.05 seconds
      So 100 times more secure

    • @sleepykirbo6392
      @sleepykirbo6392 Před rokem +2

      They could increase their packaging security by using blister pack

    • @DaveMethvin
      @DaveMethvin Před rokem +5

      I live near this Home Depot, and I was in the return line when I hear, "This is a Home Depot customer, and what I have to return today is a collection of 10 Master puck locks". The woman says, "What is the reason for the return?" and he pulls out a comb pick...

    • @johnsmithe4656
      @johnsmithe4656 Před rokem +1

      @@DaveMethvin I think LPL has ROOMS full of locks at home. Must be a big house.

  • @ZanielGa_
    @ZanielGa_ Před rokem +825

    Sometimes it feels like LPL is the only person keeping Master Lock in business by buying their products to see how bad they actually are.

    • @trevormoses5061
      @trevormoses5061 Před rokem +1

      😆😆

    • @ehsnils
      @ehsnils Před rokem +1

      All Masterlock has to do is to provide cheap locks to Home Depot, possibly with some kickback to a clerk working there.

    • @TheWhiteTrashPanda
      @TheWhiteTrashPanda Před rokem +10

      Most hardware stores in my area only carry master lock.

    • @Jomskylark
      @Jomskylark Před rokem +2

      Master Lock is still very popular amongst the average joe who has no knowledge of lock security. As long as they keep up that name and brand they'll be profitable

    • @akinnon2000
      @akinnon2000 Před rokem

      This comment is underrated

  • @tannerdant9536
    @tannerdant9536 Před rokem +101

    I was at the lake this weekend and the bathroom facilities were locked with a 4 digit Masterlock. Having watched this channel for a couple of years, I knew it was worth a shot. Even with no experience at all, it took about 30 seconds and no tools to decode it.

    • @juicyfruit6311
      @juicyfruit6311 Před rokem +15

      Yeah. I forgot my combo on my Masterlock keylock box. Picked in seconds after watching the video. Scary to think I used this to story car keys.

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi Před rokem +3

      Did you violate that bathroom?

    • @robertlowther7442
      @robertlowther7442 Před rokem +2

      I just want to remind anyone reading this not to pick locks that you don’t own without permission and never pick a lock in use.

  • @marsdoria189
    @marsdoria189 Před rokem +17

    I'm thankful for LPL because in his other videos, he said that lock companies saw him and made improvements on their locks. That is a company that cares about its customers and I am more than happy to purchase from them....and then of course there's the low end of the Bell Curve where Master Lock resides.

  • @zombieman3011
    @zombieman3011 Před rokem +238

    LPL comes back from a 2 week break just to remind us that Master Lock is still not to be trusted and makes locks that make piggy banks seem secure

    • @Maric18
      @Maric18 Před rokem +3

      piggy banks are fairly secure, as covert opening is pretty much impossible :D

    • @Craigelz
      @Craigelz Před rokem +2

      LPL doesn't take breaks.... he get's locked up at high security installations and sometimes it takes him a few days to get out. That's all.

    • @JackieBright
      @JackieBright Před rokem +4

      @@Craigelz not because the locks are difficult to open, he just had to try every lock in the building and prove that there were no flukes

    • @Craigelz
      @Craigelz Před rokem +1

      @@JackieBright Agreed... no lock is safe. We're talking about a guy who could probably pick the Pearly Gates (binding on two... a click out of five... and we're in).

  • @Archangel144
    @Archangel144 Před rokem +277

    Master lock. It's like a master key in reverse - anything will open it.

    • @runvnc208
      @runvnc208 Před rokem +4

      Its almost as if the most popular brands were the ones that had the best marketing or scheming or bribery rather than the best.

    • @samiraperi467
      @samiraperi467 Před rokem +3

      Genius.

    • @ronumpleby3517
      @ronumpleby3517 Před rokem +7

      "Hi, this is the Lock Picking Lawyer, and today I'm going to show you how the MasterLock Disc lock can be opened with a small bit of fingernail you just chewed off."

    • @MsLightbar
      @MsLightbar Před rokem +6

      A key that opens many locks is a master key. A lock that is opened by many keys is a master lock!

    • @spikespa5208
      @spikespa5208 Před rokem +1

      Nice clarification.

  • @rgsparber1
    @rgsparber1 Před rokem +16

    I like bottom of the line Master locks. They make great pull handles for drawers in my shop. And, they are so easy to remove too.

  • @Sokanoted
    @Sokanoted Před rokem +92

    LPL: man I can’t believe masterlock is so bad.
    Masterlock: dude we got that guy to spend hundreds of dollars on our paperweights.

    • @spikespa5208
      @spikespa5208 Před rokem +1

      I got a 4 roller combo Master lock that, after seeing LPL show its shortcomings, is now just an odd looking paperweight. Mostly not used.

    • @Zelmel
      @Zelmel Před rokem

      @@spikespa5208 Yeah, but as far as Master Lock cares, you bought it right?

    • @spikespa5208
      @spikespa5208 Před rokem

      Kind of wish I could return it.......through their front window.

  • @twjohnson1203
    @twjohnson1203 Před rokem +90

    Master Lock CEO: "Alright, let's take advantage of this. Ideas?"
    (VP anxiously raising hand): "Me, me, I know! How's this, _Master Lock convenience, lost your key? Open our lock with anything that fits the key way!_ "
    CEO: "All in favor?"
    ALL: "Hurump, hurump!"

    • @Gamefreak8112
      @Gamefreak8112 Před rokem +4

      Mel Brooks would be happy to hear those.

    • @twjohnson1203
      @twjohnson1203 Před rokem +3

      @@Gamefreak8112
      “I didn’t get a hurump from that guy!”

  • @TrondBrgeKrokli
    @TrondBrgeKrokli Před rokem +72

    Somehow I don't expect Master Lock to react to this issue before it appears in mass media news outlets, or some other format which reaches a lot more people than the views of this channel, particularly for those who spend their money without any form of checking before purchasing.

    • @tuttifongul2006
      @tuttifongul2006 Před rokem +6

      You ever notice that LPL's viewer count and his views per vid count are roughly the same on almost all his vids?
      He reaches far more than you think and Master DEFINITELY hates this man

    • @Thermalions
      @Thermalions Před rokem +15

      @@tuttifongul2006 But there's still millions upon millions who have no idea who LPL is. That's Masterlocks's audience. They don't care about LPL's viewers as they don't expect to sell locks to them.

    • @TrondBrgeKrokli
      @TrondBrgeKrokli Před rokem +1

      @@tuttifongul2006 Fair point, but what I was trying to suggest is that maybe they are stretching their luck in trying to save money by selling as much as possible before anything impedes their sales figures. I don't know, maybe I am overthinking this scenario or I am being too much of a cynic regarding Master Lock, since I don't think they will act on this safety issue before something more newsworthy appears in the media. There is also the general tendency in the overall production of consumer locks to cut corners to save money whenever they can, so I am somewhat pessimistic here.

    • @pvanukoff
      @pvanukoff Před rokem +6

      ​@@TrondBrgeKrokli Of course they won't act on this. If the locks sell, that's all ML cares about. They make them "good enough", and throw a bunch of marketing at it to make it seem amazing to the average consumer. Even if there was a story about this in mainstream media, it wouldn't matter too much. Most consumers just go to the store and buy whatever's on the shelf, or to Amazon and buy whatever they see first.

    • @Trebuchet48
      @Trebuchet48 Před rokem +3

      Now, now, look at it from Master management's point of view. The cost of changing the design and tooling could easily run into the hundreds of dollars!

  • @truebassB
    @truebassB Před rokem +2

    Just dropping by to say thanks for your videos that turned lock picking into a hobby of mine. Today i got locked out of my second house as i forgot the keys and had no tools, i found a windshield wiper rod and raked the front entrance, i had some job to do on the shed which has an 80's domus euro lock where due to the wall i couldn't get into position to rake it because the wire was twisting so i ended up finding some keys with similar keyway, one of them had a low cut last pin and succesfully used it as a bump key.
    Apart from the shady part of these skills for one to have them, this hobby definitely save lives.

  • @volkris
    @volkris Před rokem +10

    I honestly think you should return locks like these to the store as defective.
    If Home Depot is getting a lot of returns of locks that are insecure, that puts Home Depot on our side to put pressure on the company to improve them.

  • @PaulParkinson
    @PaulParkinson Před rokem +3

    One of the key things i have learned from this channel is to treat MasterLock as a joke and to avoid their locks like the plague. It's reassuring to see that that approach is still the correct one.

  • @JeefMcQueef
    @JeefMcQueef Před rokem +47

    Just a thank you, as I started watching your channel and have picked up the skill in coordination with my construction company. Not only have I been able to "pick" my way into certain building we have purchased, but I've used it to unlock my storage shed, where the key stopped working, and today, am going to try my luck on a buddies garage he accidentally locked. Thanks again for the great videos and explanations

    • @JeefMcQueef
      @JeefMcQueef Před rokem +3

      @@ts757arse thanks. I can't believe I haven't been flagged. Lol. I've had it forever thank God

    • @acknowledgedofalltheconseq366
      @acknowledgedofalltheconseq366 Před rokem +3

      Turns out your company didn't purchase that building, the storage isn't yours and your friend has no idea about that garage.

    • @JeefMcQueef
      @JeefMcQueef Před rokem +1

      @@acknowledgedofalltheconseq366 got em

    • @AWLor0
      @AWLor0 Před rokem

      Try buddy's...

  • @cliffordwagner
    @cliffordwagner Před rokem +41

    When I was installing DirecTV every van had these on them. One technician told me a story of a time they went into a building downtown, surveyed the installation, returned to their truck to get their tools and it was completely empty and the puck locks were sitting on the sidewalk next to the truck. They couldn't have been gone 5 to 10 minutes, and the theives had time to empty the entire truck of its contents. I've never bought a master lock puck lock, and I never will unless I need to make a video about how shitty they are, and I'll probably just do that in the lock aisle of the hardware store if I wanted to.

    • @ShadowDragon8685
      @ShadowDragon8685 Před rokem +6

      The lock was so bad the thieves _left it behind._
      The kind of lock that's _so bad_ that it's literally only there to satisfy bare minimum insurance requirements.

  • @locutusofborg
    @locutusofborg Před rokem +1

    You bought those on my birthday :) Now I know how you get through those locks so quickly, Red bull gives you wings.

  • @JONSDIYM
    @JONSDIYM Před rokem +7

    I have purchased a few expensive master locks in the past for outdoor use. I have found every single one has been seized and required a lot of effort to remove or open. I had one on my Hallmark enclosed trailer which was parked at my family's farm two years ago have thieves attempt to break in. They tried to shoot the side door locks off with a firearm. Minimal damage to the locks... but it rendered them both inoperable. The rear doors lok wasn't touched. It was the stainless steel round lock...?.. the locks internals were rusted and we had to use a blow torch to remove the lock. The o Ly locks they make that work... are the ones which nobody can unlock even with the keys. The lock was only two years old. 🤕

  • @gdi69
    @gdi69 Před rokem +28

    I'm convinced Master Locks having no pick-resistance is a intentional 'feature' of theirs.

    • @Fanta....
      @Fanta.... Před rokem +6

      certainly makes it super easy for the gubbermint to enter anywhere they want with a 5 dollar comb pick

    • @benni5541
      @benni5541 Před rokem

      they can seel you a "universal key"in 2 years time and just give you a regular comb pick for 99.99

    • @birdlady2725
      @birdlady2725 Před rokem +2

      They must work hand in hand with the storage thieves! Nothing is safe or sacred, and of course, they are 'not responsible' for any losses... 😔

    • @alonsoACR
      @alonsoACR Před rokem

      @@ts757arse Comb vulnerable locks have no place. Not anywhere near this century.
      There is NO market where that can be excused. Zero.

  • @Kit_Bear
    @Kit_Bear Před rokem +34

    It appears to me that Masterlock want these exploits to exist in their products for whatever reason they have. It's a simple fix of putting a longer driver pin in one of the chambers. there's no excuse for not doing that one simple thing. It has to be deliberate.

  • @jadefalcon001
    @jadefalcon001 Před rokem

    "I'm not even mad. I'm just disappointed."
    One of the most painful things you can hear.

  • @j-5624
    @j-5624 Před rokem +12

    Their keyed Puck padlocks will soon be available in popular colors making them less easy to pick open!

  • @jcsjcs2
    @jcsjcs2 Před rokem +7

    Masterlock's management right now: "Can we sue him for creating a safety concern? I don't see anything else we could do."

  • @johndododoe1411
    @johndododoe1411 Před rokem +4

    This was recently covered by someone else in a YouTok video. As Bill used to say:
    * Stay legal
    * Stay safe
    * and stay away from Master Lock.

  • @ScytheNoire
    @ScytheNoire Před rokem +381

    How does the largest lock maker in the world manage to continuously be so incompetent?
    Corporate profits above all else it would seem.

    • @Zeivusgaming
      @Zeivusgaming Před rokem +54

      The average joe doesn't know diddly about locks. If they did, they wouldn't use Masterlock for anything and be demanding a better product.

    • @IgnavumFortuna
      @IgnavumFortuna Před rokem +53

      you don't need to make good products to make a good profit.

    • @newbietricki239
      @newbietricki239 Před rokem +19

      @@IgnavumFortuna agreed its mostly about marketing prime example are apple products

    • @safetyflipflop
      @safetyflipflop Před rokem +25

      That is a bad comparison as Apple products are mostly good, brutally overpriced but good...

    • @seanshepherd1071
      @seanshepherd1071 Před rokem +11

      Masterlock is the mcdonalds of locks. Mass-produced and cheapest in both price and quality

  • @SoniasWay
    @SoniasWay Před rokem +203

    Imagine if lockpickinglawyer designed a lock

    • @FerroequinologistofColorado
      @FerroequinologistofColorado Před rokem +16

      It would be the only legitimate unpickable lock, not even NASA’s own quantum super computer could pick it open

    • @redfinite27
      @redfinite27 Před rokem +19

      @@FerroequinologistofColorado or it would be the perfect lock to practice lockpicking skills. Which still likely ends up being better than majority locks

    • @Francis-SVG
      @Francis-SVG Před rokem +7

      I would buy it even if it was unlockable since it would take a while to pick it unlike this disgrace.

    • @alextilton2677
      @alextilton2677 Před rokem +6

      It's been done. In one video he mentioned that he used to make challenge locks.

    • @nikolapasteur1825
      @nikolapasteur1825 Před rokem +11

      It would probably too good of a lock for anyone to use. Anyone who lost the key would have no possible way of opening it. 17 drill bits, 33 saws, 4 bolt cutters, and 347 rounds of ammo later and people still would be locked out of their own house.

  • @nealell3232
    @nealell3232 Před rokem

    I live very close to where LPL lives and I'm always tickled to see see these MoCo shoutouts. I've shopped at that Home Depot tons of times. I also lived a stone throw away from the PostSecret guy, who also lived in Germantown, MD.

  • @OcteractSG
    @OcteractSG Před rokem +20

    At what point can the law apply a standard of “knew or should have known” to Master Lock for this design defect? A person who is broken into using this defect should be able to sue and win.

    • @THE-X-Force
      @THE-X-Force Před rokem +13

      Maybe a lawyer who is very familiar with locks and picking could answer this? Anyone know a person like that?

    • @androidrandom9979
      @androidrandom9979 Před rokem

      Master Lock (and other manufacturers) are probably subsidized/co-opted by the state security apparatus to continue making and marketing this junk so that the everyman has only the illusion of privacy and security... much the same way as the NSA has several times been caught with its thumb on the scale to water down encryption products or sneak in NOBUS backdoors.

    • @BrianatorFTW
      @BrianatorFTW Před rokem +4

      I know companies have disclaimers all over, but I bet in masterlock's case because you don't have to go out of your way to agree to something you could totally fault them for making such shoddy locks with not only the intention of people assuming it is high quality just because of brand name but also because of a very misleading security scale label/series name

  • @piratecaptaindeep
    @piratecaptaindeep Před rokem +32

    Masterlock isn’t going to change without pressuring their customers, which is actually the retailers. Maybe make a QR code to LPL videos on a sticker and just put them up in retail stores.

    • @M3PH11
      @M3PH11 Před rokem

      technically that is vandalism of private property

    • @juicy_oranges5529
      @juicy_oranges5529 Před rokem +10

      @@M3PH11 If you use a master lock, you soon won't have any private property anymore to worry about.

    • @reptiloidmitglied2930
      @reptiloidmitglied2930 Před rokem +1

      @@juicy_oranges5529 That's true but the store owners still won't be happy if you put stickers on their goods (or better said bads in this particular case).

  • @My-Pal-Hal
    @My-Pal-Hal Před rokem +80

    THAT'S NOT A LOCK,.. THAT'S A LAWSUIT.
    If only there was a Lawyer that knew about Lock picking 🤔

    • @UltraSuperDuperFreak
      @UltraSuperDuperFreak Před rokem

      lol ... lawsuit ... you know in most countries we dont just do that when ever we feel like it, so american of you in caps and everything like a little toddler :P.
      I bet master lock covered there arses in very small letters that none ever bother reading like most compaqnies anyway.

    • @celestialtree8602
      @celestialtree8602 Před rokem +8

      @@UltraSuperDuperFreak Master Lock's an American company. I'm unsure what your point is, especially since this is a massive security issue and absolutely worth a lawsuit if one is possible.

    • @My-Pal-Hal
      @My-Pal-Hal Před rokem +1

      @UltraSuperSTUPIDFreak
      In our country.
      We have the Intelligence to know a Lock Picking Lawyer Joke when we see it. Just like the other 54👍 so far.
      So Toddle Along. And pull your head out of your Arse every once in a while. The air is pretty fresh out here. You really should try it.
      ... whiney freakin foreigners 🤤

    • @My-Pal-Hal
      @My-Pal-Hal Před rokem +7

      @@celestialtree8602
      Yeah, pretty much.
      Especially since they know there's a problem.
      And hard to see this not being False Advertising. I've seen Zip Ties more worthy of the label 'Lock' 😂

    • @pomelo9518
      @pomelo9518 Před rokem

      Bruh its called a hyperbole, go back to enhlish class

  • @SniperReady
    @SniperReady Před rokem

    You can hear the seething disdain in his voice when he describes his continued disappointment.

  • @stephendavies923
    @stephendavies923 Před rokem

    I have missed your dulcet tones recently, so It is great to hear you again.

  • @potatosordfighter666
    @potatosordfighter666 Před rokem +51

    An overlift attack being viable in 2022 is horrific. You could open this as if it were your lock and no one would be the wiser. This is genuinely a severe issue, as you said, which is recall worthy.

  • @Nuvares
    @Nuvares Před rokem +3

    I honestly think the craziest part is that if I saw someone do that to a lock and I wasn't over their shoulder it would look like they used a key. slid key shaped-ish metal in, turned, and it opened. you'd have to be paying a lot of attention to see that it wasn't a key. Not something I'd expect from security guards or cameras at say a self storage site.

  • @d-obvious
    @d-obvious Před rokem

    you've convinced me. masterlock is doing so well they don't need my support as a consumer. I appreciate your channel.. big time! whenever I have a lock that needs opening.. your my first resource when the key or combination has been lost..
    I especially appreciate how well a Hilti nail gun opens most of the crap I need clear lol

  • @DconBlueZ
    @DconBlueZ Před rokem

    Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching!

  • @sprint48219
    @sprint48219 Před rokem +3

    I can’t believe that you were fully expecting them to have made corrections ?
    I would have been very shocked if they did anything !

  • @rjjones9717
    @rjjones9717 Před rokem +3

    Keep up the amazing work LPL you tha man

  • @David-bz7pi
    @David-bz7pi Před rokem

    I'm glad you make videos like this. I was in Lowes recently look for a lock, came across Master Lock, and explicitly didn't buy their lock.
    Nor will I, ever, except for practice purposes on my own lock picking.
    The fact that Master Lock can't be bothered to fix a security issue on such an expensive product is very disappointing, and it's sad that they're still in business.

  • @davidpyle7333
    @davidpyle7333 Před rokem +7

    I was hoping to see it opened using the Red Bull can purchased at the same time !

  • @MrElbarto75
    @MrElbarto75 Před rokem +280

    Have you ever worked on "heavy" locks ? Here in France, there's a church ( actually, a lot of church and castles ) with a "classified" locks that they can't open or broke ( as they are classified as national landmarks ), so they are stucked .. Wanna do some good actions while traveling across france ? :D

    • @najlitarvan921
      @najlitarvan921 Před rokem +29

      That could be interesting

    • @AniviaS
      @AniviaS Před rokem +83

      Historical locks aren't really known for being hard to pick, I imagine most of those are simply rusted shut so there is nothing you can do without damaging them

    • @AyarARJ
      @AyarARJ Před rokem +80

      WD-40 has entered the chat...

    • @gigaslave
      @gigaslave Před rokem +9

      @@AniviaS I guess they haven't tried soaking them in rust remover?

    • @imveryaverageatpayday58q9
      @imveryaverageatpayday58q9 Před rokem +25

      ​@@gigaslave most if not all are so rusty that they are basically welded together

  • @ElijahPerrin80
    @ElijahPerrin80 Před rokem

    I sure hope your summer is going well, good to get some rest.

  • @kevinwhite9919
    @kevinwhite9919 Před rokem

    Enjoyed your clues on jeopardy. Thanks for participating!

  • @NothingPicksLocks
    @NothingPicksLocks Před rokem +17

    Master isn't gonna fix this, they don't care!

  • @CGR89
    @CGR89 Před rokem +4

    You can tell the quality of a company based on their reaction to verified security threats.

  • @ahujeffrey
    @ahujeffrey Před rokem

    Why isn't this surprising? It's like "Master" Lock just doesn't care anymore. Thanks for the heads up, LPL!

  • @TheKillertoma11
    @TheKillertoma11 Před rokem +2

    The number one thing ive learned from this channel is that almost no locks are all that great if you're up against a skilled lock picker. Now, brute force is another story. Definitely big differences in how difficult breaking a lock can be

    • @sphygo
      @sphygo Před rokem +1

      It's all about how much time it takes to learn to pick and what kind of specialized tools you need to open it. There is no unpickable lock, just a lock that is too difficult to bother or one you don't have the tools to open. This lock, however, is neither difficult nor are the tools required hard to obtain.

  • @jofouche7808
    @jofouche7808 Před rokem +5

    When I was younger and saw heroes in movies picking locks in seconds, I used to believe it was unrealistic. Now, I know better and can tell they were using Masterlock products.

    • @darreng745
      @darreng745 Před rokem

      I salute you for the funniest comment I have read in some time about the abysmal products that Master lock make

  • @limprooster3253
    @limprooster3253 Před rokem +3

    If you haven't figured it out by now, Master lock's idea of security is heavily based on resistance to destructive methods, not pick resistance.

    • @salvor1
      @salvor1 Před rokem

      are you sticking up for them in any way you can? are you serious? It's sheer incompetence.

    • @limprooster3253
      @limprooster3253 Před rokem +1

      @@salvor1 just saying they value resistance to destructive methods more than pick resistance. And it makes sense tbh. You can buy bolt cutters at the hardware store in town. Normies don't usually carry picking tools

    • @salvor1
      @salvor1 Před rokem

      @@limprooster3253 what color of st u pid don't you understand?

  • @coreymurray4877
    @coreymurray4877 Před rokem

    I decide to get into lock picking out of boredom and had some old windshield wipers I just replaced and made a simple set of tools out of the metal bars from them and took a master lock I had and thought maybe you just made it look easy and when I had it opened in under a minute thought maybe i got lucky tried it again and same case under a minute with crude home made tools was very shocked with how easy it was for someone with no experience and crude tools could open one of thier locks.

  • @PovlKvols
    @PovlKvols Před rokem

    Inexcusable! Thank you for sharing.

  • @tylernadeau1038
    @tylernadeau1038 Před rokem +3

    Did anybody else find themselves imagining what possible scenarios LPL could've been up to while looking at his receipt? It's the redbull that really tops it for me. He needs to stay awake for whatever horrible thing he's doing.

  • @PetesGuide
    @PetesGuide Před rokem +8

    Is there a manufactured date on the lock or packaging? I’d be curious to know if that lock was made before your earlier video.

  • @Riyame
    @Riyame Před rokem +1

    Master lock ignoring this blatant security flaw for so long is unacceptable. When Gwiens2001 and I came up with and showed the Kwikset Smartkey padlock core drop issue literally the NEXT DAY we were contacted and they wanted to set up a call between us and their R&D team and a few others to know the hows and whys of the issue and how they could fix it. They were quite thankful for bringing the issue to their attention and sent us nice letters with the first fixed padlocks.

  • @tramsgar
    @tramsgar Před rokem

    His surprise surprises me

  • @rickrickard2788
    @rickrickard2788 Před rokem +3

    "Dewd, relax! We'll absorb the hit, people will forget, and all will be well!" Masterlock, circa 2020

  • @bryanskrantz
    @bryanskrantz Před rokem +4

    as somebody with an outside perspective I believe a company like this is thinking "this guy's just using a tool specifically designed to open our locks. nothing to see here folks". which is bad business.

    • @ShadowDragon8685
      @ShadowDragon8685 Před rokem

      Except that comb picking has been a thing since, as he points out, _the nineteen thirties._ And the tool is so _simple_ that anyone with any machining skill at all can create it.
      This isn't like he's deploying the MasterUnlock 5001 that he custom-made with BosnianBill to specifically attack some kind of unique quirk of the metallurgy used by Masterlock to cause a _poing_ in a resonant frequency that makes the lock undergo some kind of technobabble deformation allowing it to pop open or something, this is literally the lowest of low-skill attacks with an old-timey skeleton key.

  • @crisgaret
    @crisgaret Před rokem

    LPL with the sugar free Redbull purchase. That is the collab we all want!

  • @afnDavid
    @afnDavid Před rokem +2

    Master Lock never fails to disapoint

  • @EastCoastMan603
    @EastCoastMan603 Před rokem +27

    LPL - beyond masterlock being the junk food brand with worldwide recogniztion - I get the feeling they know that individual lock buying public: 1- doesn’t care and 2- why get in the way of profits ? I think they know exactly what they’re doing.
    🇺🇸👍🏻

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc Před rokem +11

    “Master” because it helps pickers master their skill set. 😂

  • @xiaoxiaoreed8012
    @xiaoxiaoreed8012 Před rokem

    Thanks, I came across this video by accident, the photo caught my eye because I have these exact same locks to secure my truck tool boxes.. super disappointed because I thought they were great locks..... thanks for the video you may have saved my tools

  • @nomdom
    @nomdom Před rokem

    I've literally been to that exact home Depot so many times. Man, I could have run into you and not even known it

  • @shazam6274
    @shazam6274 Před rokem +8

    In addition to lockpicking, LPL has a list of chores to do: make a fire in the barbecue, fix a leaking toilet, fix some loose planks in some decking and a few miscellaneous items. Unless of course, he asked someone in Maryland to buy this lock at Home Depot on their next errand trip and send it to his fortress of solitude cave in Cheyanne Mountain, CO. 😁

    • @theokamis5865
      @theokamis5865 Před rokem +3

      LPL is East Coast, so Greenbrier Resort, West Virginia, is more likely his Løckenpickerbünker.

    • @shazam6274
      @shazam6274 Před rokem

      @@theokamis5865 😁

    • @Donald_the_Potholer
      @Donald_the_Potholer Před rokem +1

      @@theokamis5865 Bringen Sie mir Master Lock. MASTER LOCK! Master Lock. Master Lock!

  • @BackYardScience2000
    @BackYardScience2000 Před rokem +21

    Never expect Master Lock to do anything that makes sense or to fix anything. You'll be less disappointed in the future.

  • @ryanfrisby7389
    @ryanfrisby7389 Před rokem

    Fantastic video!

  • @dannylukic6536
    @dannylukic6536 Před rokem +1

    LPL doing a real community service. MVP

  • @bigjai
    @bigjai Před rokem +5

    Master Lock never changes

  • @matthew.datcher
    @matthew.datcher Před rokem +9

    I'm wondering whether LPL attempted to pick the lock right on the shelf or if he managed to wait until he got home.

    • @tobias-brandt
      @tobias-brandt Před rokem +3

      I think he took it home because the plastic packaging was REALLY hard to open 😆

    • @matthew.datcher
      @matthew.datcher Před rokem +5

      @@tobias-brandt "How to Open Plastic Packaging: The Ultimate LPL Guide"

    • @gigimava
      @gigimava Před rokem

      Picking them open in the store would be the best way to shy away potential buyers

  • @Mumbleretracter
    @Mumbleretracter Před rokem

    A lock identifies a soft spot in security!
    You are detailing finesse!
    I chose to pick up this skill in case of the worst case sensorial!
    Perhaps you could highlight how a more aggressive approach would be beneficial to a result based outcome… or what if I didn’t care what mess I left!

    • @Mumbleretracter
      @Mumbleretracter Před rokem

      If I got your attention, could you describe witch way determines the spin of the cylinder?
      I feel I fail at many locks because I’m not sure of the direction that the key needs to be turned…

  • @cheif10thumbs
    @cheif10thumbs Před rokem +1

    I have two of those locks. I was able to duplicate your results with my Covert Companion and the 6 pin comb. Fast enough to know it wasn't a fluke. I don't have anywhere near your skill but it still only took me less than a minute to open both.

  • @dnelson9529
    @dnelson9529 Před rokem +3

    Entirely possible the inventory has not turned over in that space of time. Not to mention design to production timeframe.

    • @ToddTevlin
      @ToddTevlin Před rokem

      This is implying they actually have a design department. :P

  • @PalEllingsen
    @PalEllingsen Před rokem +4

    Relevant question: what was the production date on the lock you recently bought? I’m just guessing here, but could it be one of the old ones?

  • @Madlintelf
    @Madlintelf Před rokem

    LPL, by now you and the rest of us have to had realized that Master is marketing there locks to the beginner lockpicking community :) I couldn't resist, they have a big market share and are only interested in profits, not making reliable secure products. At least I know us pickers know what to stay away from and what to recommend to friends and family, so we got that going for us. Thanks again!

  • @jordi95
    @jordi95 Před rokem +2

    Thank you for this, holding companies accountable for their actions is very important. Seeing that MasterLock is just another greedy company who couldn't care less about making a good product, I hope they go out of business.

  • @raikitsunagi
    @raikitsunagi Před rokem +4

    I wonder when LPL will do a speedrun opening all possible Master Locks

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 Před rokem

      He's done so already. Video 845 is kinda what you're looking for, though it's mostly just another good bollocking of MasterLock in general.
      So has BosnianBill (vids 1274, 1359, etc.)

  • @torchofkck4989
    @torchofkck4989 Před rokem +17

    Master only cares about sales,
    Not their customers security.

  • @iamgriff
    @iamgriff Před rokem

    I actually contemplated a set of two today. I'm glad I balked after watching this.

  • @averagejoey2000
    @averagejoey2000 Před rokem +1

    1922: "this is the lock defeating scoundrel, and I have on my desk a lock of master. I'm going to shove something vaguely key shaped into the keyhole... and it's open"

  • @aliozanerbektas
    @aliozanerbektas Před rokem +6

    Maybe this lock was from the original batch? I mean is there a manufacturing date on the package?

  • @Swixu
    @Swixu Před rokem +3

    I don't know how they can like just refuse to fix an issue like this.

    • @Dshemesh123
      @Dshemesh123 Před rokem +3

      think they care?
      ppl buys the products they get ther money anyway

    • @Swixu
      @Swixu Před rokem

      @@Dshemesh123 Yeah I have no idea what I was thinking when I decided to post this comment. They get money so there is no point in fixing the issue.

  • @SwapPartLLC
    @SwapPartLLC Před rokem

    I have one of these on the bulkhead divider in my cargo van. I purposely went for Master Lock because I thought it would be more secure. Good thing I have an alarm and never leave anything of value in the van.

  • @jacobh2629
    @jacobh2629 Před rokem

    I would absolutely love to see you take a look at some KSP locks. I work for them and I will see if I can maybe send you a couple

  • @laodrofotic7713
    @laodrofotic7713 Před rokem +6

    I think I said it again I'll say it here too: IMO the biggest problem that a comb pick vulnerability presents is that using a comb pick looks like you're just using a key, meaning you can just do this in front of people and (unless they're paying very close attention for some reason) they won't even notice.

  • @shaqwiththecombo
    @shaqwiththecombo Před rokem +6

    Damn even a toddler can open this when wielded with this tool.

  • @thomasholliday1
    @thomasholliday1 Před rokem

    Thabk you lpl!!! You rekindled my joy in picking locks (my own of course) and i have had a blast!! Im still a noobtho

  • @robertthompson3447
    @robertthompson3447 Před rokem

    Noticed the Red Bull on the receipt. Looking forward to some more Red Bull videos 😎.

  • @Ittiz
    @Ittiz Před rokem +4

    I guess it's just not worth it for them to buy the slightly longer pins, lol

  • @ubergeek1968
    @ubergeek1968 Před rokem +3

    These locks were used to secure the coin catch boxes on tire air stations in Utah. I was working for a vending company that maintained them and we had to rush to remove all the locks and save the money (converting the stations to cashless) because these locks were being bypassed. Not only are they easy to pick, but they can be melted with an acetylene torch within a few minutes.

  • @masimaninlv
    @masimaninlv Před rokem

    Imagine just picking those locks and leaving a "heads-up" warning note!

  • @secretagent5954
    @secretagent5954 Před rokem

    LPL getting that expert witness consultation fee and all! 😂

  • @TheBilgepumper
    @TheBilgepumper Před rokem +7

    So, let's assume one wanted to fix this in a lock one owns without having to buy a replacement. Would one just gut the core and replace at least one driver pin and spring with a longer driver and shorter, balanced spring such that the stack can't be pushed above the shear line? Of course, rebalancing all the pin stacks would seem to be the better option, but would even one technically prevent the comb attack?

    • @TheQuark6789
      @TheQuark6789 Před rokem +2

      Perhaps you could just put an extra pin above each spring, effectively making a shorter chamber.

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 Před rokem +1

      Yes, you could re-pin the lock, and that would solve the problem.