Imagine waking up in the middle of the night to a slight noise. You silently make your way to your front door, and just hear the words muttered "nice click out of three, small click out of three, four is binding..."
"The lock is only as good as the door, then its only as good as the walls and windows." I am glad he talked about the hitch that can be swapped without much of work or noise.
This is actually also true in Software security stuff. Yeah you may be using unbreakable military-grade security on checking the login password. But that won't protect the users that chose "password" or "123456" as their password. That also won't protect a regular authenticated user that has more permissions than it should, etc. So you can't just protect the front door, also every single window, the roof, and maybe even more if people _really_ want to get in.
@@tomraineofmagigor3499 problem with that is that you then can't replace the hitch when damaged. The spot welding solution proposed makes it difficult to unbolt, especially quietly, but they can be undone when you are replacing it without too much difficulty.
@@Santisima_Trinidad no I was saying to add flanks to the lock. The idea is to make it so when the lock is in place you wouldn't be able to get the tool in
@wkruit1 excluding professional thieves (guys who actually steal things of serious value) noone picks locks. The value of this lock is the extremely strong construction that would make destructive entry very difficult. The reality is a master lock 3 provides as much security as any padlock without a high shackle guard (ie much more expensive locks). Criminals will break the lock off in a few seconds with cutters or twist it off with a wrench. No need to pick anything tbh. This channel is one of my favorite but you need to grain of salt some of the practical application ends of his opinions. They are biased by his activity in lock sport.
@@alexdavis9324 A lot Master Locks can be shimmed, bypassed or raked though. Even if thieves rarely pick locks, such simple and easily avoided exploits are genuine security weaknesses.
@@TonboIV abus locks actually are more susceptible to those exploits. Master has switched to ball bearings. Cheap locks in general have those exploits. Even if they dont again the no skill destructive entry is still a weak link they all share.
He's said in the past that recommending locks is hard because you have to know their intended use. Hes taken a lot of potshots at masterlock in the past, but he'd probably be okay with you using one to keep kids out of the closet where you are storing christmas presents.
@@michaellococowi This is a cost-benefit calculation that only the viewer can do. He can however, grade it for example from 1-10 security wise. This is very valuable information. Then you yourself can decide, do you want to buy a level 2 lock for $3 or a level 8 lock for $150.
@@dobeedooo I'd probably amend that to a 0-10 scale based on the hex band bike lock video I saw a few weeks ago... That thing definitely didn't deserve a 1.
He also said he doesn't generally like recommending locks because his skills improve over time. A lock that gave him trouble 5 years ago would be much easier now.
Proven Industries also updated the lock design recently to secure it further against drilling attacks. I just bought one of these kits with the upgraded medico core in it to secure my pop up camper after my previous camper was stolen with the yellow Reese/Stanley coupler lock installed. LPL, Thank you for this sort of content. A true community service!
My question is what's stopping someone from just driving off with the safety chains attached? Obviously it's not the safest situation but if I really wanted to secure a vehicle or trailer I'd be thinking about a boot or covering the whole tongue
@@corylocher1 my last bike got stolen with a kryptonite modulus i got as a gift. 2 weeks before i had looked up his videos on it, and cutting cable locks, and i was actively shopping for a quality ulock etc, but... that lock was LAUGHABLE. and i'm sure the thief was laughing as he rode away.
I was watching a Wranglerstar video, where he got and installed one of these locks on his trailer. He asked "us" to convey his gratitude and appreciation for the effort you put in.
@@justinc9911 how? The aluminum Puck lock would be in a solid steel recess that you would first have to get out of the way before you could do anything to the aluminum lock, also you would not have a good angle to pry on it even once you've removed the recess. Unless you are the strongest person on the planet I highly doubt you could share that aluminum Puck lock at all.
@@derrickmoses1507 both LPL and Bosnian Bill have talked about bending, breaking and damaging tools in the course of picking locks. So if you're implying that only knuckleheads bend or break tools, I reckon I'm in good company. If you have never had to find the mechanical limit of a tool, I'm not sure your really pushing or advancing your own limitations beyond what's comfortable and easy.
your jewelers tools ... how many are bent ... none ... a car mechanics tools ... it doesnt matter ... a lock or jewelry it does ... the difference between a profession where the tool needs to be able to hold a 2 ton vehicle and a tool that needs to move a pin that you could snap with a few pairs of pliers ... yeah fine detail work people LOOK AFTER their tools ... macro detail workers like mechanics dont care about their tools
where this really comes in handy is for people who have tiny homes on wheels. where they are dropping like minimum 15k for their living situation. some tiny homes easily go 100k+ they are starting to be targeted by thieves in recent years so something like this would be life saving for those people.
@@freshcharge insurance just give you back some money sometime in the future. If you lost your boat the day before going for a trip, you still miss the trip. If you lost your tools just before a job, you still miss that job. You also need to do the paperwork instead of what you were going to do
In the Action RPG game Fallout 4, the companion NPC Nick Valentine sometimes says "If they didn't want it opened, they would have bought a better lock, eh ?" when your character picks one. :D
@@shotgunmary You and I have a very different idea of what kind of trailer the average person might have. I would figure the kind most people seem to have would go for about $500 used if it was in good condition. Obviously I'm not talking about something fancy like a horse trailer though.
Jesse... thank you for this gift to LPL. I had asked him about this lock about six months ago in response to a customer inquiry in my line of work, and had not had the resources to send it to him for his review. I sincerely appreciate it.
Gawd I hate that saying. Honest people will stay out, regardless of locks, or unlocked doors. Honest people don't steal. Locks only keep out lazy people, and prevent crimes of opportunity.
I love these videos, and I think a lot of the time people tend to forget a few things. 1: he's an experienced picker and is most likely far more skilled than anyone trying to break into your things would be 2: Locks not only provide (limited) practical safety, but also social safety, meaning that someone trying to pick open a lock is inherently suspicious no matter how fast they can crack it
LPL: *Recommends a lock* Lock Company: All of you get a 1 month vacation bonus! All of you! Even if you don't want it. We are gonna be focken rich! RICH I TELL YOU!!!
@@olemissjim Some companies have a policy of not letting employees to have the same vacation on a certain date. They can have paid bonuses, but they cannot take a vacation all at the same time.
@@niccatipay And in European companies, everyone in the company goes on vacation at the same time. (Or at least they used to). "We all take the month of August off every year."
Almost a minute and a half to pick open...goddamn, that's impressive! Especially once you factor in the fact that in it's proper place, you'd have to be on your back under the tow hitch to pick it, probably with sub-par lighting...for a normal lockpicker, this would probably take at least ten minutes! Assuming they didn't just give up.
I am a metal fabricator, and with new tool technology, I would use a small lithium powered die grinder that could be hidden in a front hoodie pocket, and grind off the bolts heads that attach the trailer neck as he pointed out in the video. It would take me probably 10 seconds per bolt, so less than a minute total and no skill required. The tool is only about $120.
@@Steven-gv1ke Being a welder, if they are shitty welds (very likely since most people cant weld worth a shit) it wont take much doing to defeat that either. The same tool will work.
Wow, I think that's the longest lock picking I've seen from LPL Starts at 3:08 Finishes at 4:34 86 seconds, nearly a minute and a half, impressive lock!
Damn this comment is so undervalued. I’ve followed Bosnian Bill and LPL for at least 4 maybe 5 years? I’m just as clueless as when I started. It’s basically a different language. 😂
I wonder what percentage of his viewers have any experience or interest in locks or lock picking besides his videos. I'd bet a huge majority only follow him when it comes to lockpicking and I'd be among them.
Pac Lock is a good company that listens to the lock sport community. I wouldn't be surprised if they show up in these comments, with technical info about this core.
They actually have shown up in comments sections before, answering peoples' questions. It was awesome. Glad some companies realise how important honest PR is.
PACLOCK's here! Not sure who "A Box" is, but always happy to see comments about our products! The core in this lock is pretty much a defecto standard for us with an update on the stainless steel pins.
@@paclockpres.9805 I have absolutely no interest in locks because I have nothing, but I think it's awesome that you guys bother to acknowledge some niche community and involve yourselves in it.
@@spartan456 Wow, you truly live the "Spartan lifestyle" then if you have nothing! Being an Army guy, I am all about spartan work places and lifestyles! This locksport community has been good to us ~ not because we somehow rig the reviews, but because we feel like we can count on getting honest reviews. If we're not hitting the target, then we'll adjust fire because we can. Hopefully one day you'll need a PACLOCK!
this is the only man who can say, "I have a particular set of skills...." and actually mean it. if he decided to use his skills for evil, he easily could, and would be great at it.
My late father used to say: "Locks are intended for honest people" and that is so true. If you want in, you get in, and the professionals just do it faster..
@@thomaslevy2119 It may well have been the original. My father just chose to say it like that. Maybe some was altered in translation, as we live in Norway.. Do you know who was the first to use that saying?
@@raymasek4127 I am sure she would, as do my wife. Fortunately we live in an island and thieves are few and far between here. People will sometimes leave their car with the engine running in the winter time, outside the shops, and not bother to lock up their house if they leave for a few hours. Nothing almost ever gets taken, and thieves are easily found and caught, because we know who is who. Besides, security cameras with cloud feed is a nice insurance, and more people have them now.
I don't like any version of that saying except for the true original version of it. the true original version goes as follows "honest locks keep honest people honest". Even then I don't like it because what it means is that locks like the master 140 series are not honest walks and they do not keep honest people honest but other than that all locks are the same. I tend to disagree with that statement most thieves will usually go for the lowest risk to highest possible reward thing they can steal place they can break into or what ever they're doing, so if you slap a Squier stronghold ss100cs with appropriate chain and use that for your motorbike most thieves aren't even going to bother cuz there will likely be a motorbike with a weaker chain and similar or higher value than your own motorbike.
I just bought this lock for our airstream because it looked like the strongest available. When I saw you posted a video I immediately thought, oh great I just waisted a lot of money. However it was nice to see it gave a slight bit of challenge to you. I suspect the local thief won’t have your skill or the patience. Thanks
I think it's strong, though mostly all locks are quick to pick for those who know how. The best ones out there have a harsh curve 90 degrees or more, this keeps the lock picks from easily gaining access. Chances are your lock will be just fine for most criminals.
I've always enjoyed this channel's videos. I don't know much about locks, and the videos are always fascinating. But now we're veering into territory I have some experience with: trailer security. Whenever you think about security, it's a really good idea to have a threat model. In other words, understand who you think your attacker is. I don't think that the threat model for trailer theft is a lock picker. Rather, it's someone with a pickup truck, and a handful of tools, particularly an angle grinder, a plasma cutter, and a MIG welder. In the real world, the pick resistance of this lock matters a lot less than the tool resistance. On the plus side, this lock is going to be tougher to get through with an angle grinder than most of the minimalist trailer hitch locks one sees. But on the negative side, there are some regions of the country (Florida boat thefts come to mind), where it's not that uncommon for trailer hitches to be cut off the trailer, a new hitch quickly welded on, and the trailer driven away. Many people are amazed at how quickly that operation can be performed by an experienced thief. In that circumstance, this lock will do you absolutely no good. If I really didn't want my trailer to be stolen, I'd put a minimalist hitch lock on it to deter the amateurs, but my main security would come from a wheel lock. Can wheel locks also be defeated? Sure. But it has the virtue of being way less common, and "security through obscurity" does have some benefit. There are professional trailer thieves that are prepared to deal with any hitch lock they encounter, but won't be carrying the gear needed for a wheel lock. Just one a**h*le's opinion: free advice that's worth what you paid for it.
You have given the next step without saying it,BOTH MEASURES ! Use a Hitch & Wheel Lock Combination,making it as Time consuming as possible. 1 look @ that and they may just pass you by,with LUCK ! Making it as difficult as possible was the right track,maybe a little overboard thinking,but how much is your $#!T Worth !
@Hell's favorite Salty Masshole that's a nice way of seeing it and a true one, too. Men are great. Women usually don'T appreciate men's work really, not even mentioning women's work.
Always layer your security. Never rely on just one type of lock. Use a hitch, wheel, lift, etc. The more difficult and time consuming it takes, the greater the deterrence.
@@dakotaanderson254 or just deflate the tires and remove the stem. There are a lot of ways to thwart thieves, and they will try to overcome all of them.
Wife: Him can you get the trailer hooked up so we can leave? Husband: Okay babe Husband: *unlocking hitch, wheel #1, wheel #2, lift and gate lock. Wife: Why did it take you 50 minutes to get that trailer hooked up?!? Husband: *holding bag with 20 different locks* babe I had to LPL proof the trailer
My jetski trailer stolen with a lock on the coupler. I was told the thieves just connect the chains and drive away. Now I put a small gps tracker on the trailer. Would love to see the look on the thieves face when I show up to their house to pick up my trailer next time.
Hopefully with the title and the cops. I had my car stolen and had a really hard time proving it was actually MY CAR, the assholes had a ring going had the thing rekeyed and papered before we found it. All on accident, a friend saw my car, (very specific dent on the bumper, from my girlfriend's bad driving) and called me. Cops told me the guy who stole it, his WIFE was driving it around like it was hers. Anyway took me close to a month to get it back, AFTER we found it, I had to go to court and prove to a judge it was mine. My next door neighbor had her car stolen too, by a different group and they just stripped it and dumped it in the woods cops found hers because they had been finding stolen cars in the same place stripped for a few months. I hate thieves! I did not even want my car back after everything I ended up selling it, for cheap it did not feel like it was mine anymore. All her kids stuff was in the back of it. I had to pay the tow truck driver that went and got it for me in the middle of the night $1500 bucks. The worse thing is not a damn thing happened to the people that stole it. Nothing
JustAnother InternetExpert thanks for the heads up i just took my titles out of my cars made copies and took pictures of the title with the car in the background.
You should always wrap your chains around each other like a twist tie and then run a good pad lock through them in addition to the coupler lock. That GPS is a GREAT idea as well.
@@user-lq1dk6gr3p That was my mistake i FOOLISHLY left the title in the glove box. I admit it was a bone head move and totally asking for trouble. But until it happens to you, i think most people feel like it will never happen to them. If that makes sense. Idk. Anyway yeah a Picture with the car and title in hand would have probably helped ALOT good thinking! The world we live in is getting worse as far as morals go. Seems like more and more people are OK with screwing over their neighbor. We gotta get back to the family dynamic and more community involvement in my opinion. Have a good day! Enjoy your jet ski they are really fun.
@@justanotherinternetexpert7743 The world we live in is not getting worse as far as morals go (on a per capita basis), you just see it more due to the 24 hour media cycle combined with the internet. Per capita Burglary/Robbery rates were far higher in 1980 than they are right now, same with violent crime rates, far higher per capita in the early 80's. Overall the highest peaks for all crimes in total in the past 100 years were in 1980 and 1991, they have been on a downward trend ever since then. Again, statistics prove that crime rates were higher per capita 40 years ago, than they are right now (they were also higher as early as 1973).
Wranglerstar, a CZcamsr who likes your channel, thank's you for this video and lock recommendation. I was just on his channel and he bought this trailer lock and was super impressed with it. Heavy, good quality steel, excellent welds and good design. The cut out fits perfectly over the hitch arms and guard too.
When you mentioned how this would be harder to pick if it was under a trailer on the ground... It really made me wish you had some videos of you picking locks in super awkward positions! How about a video of you picking this lock under a trailer? =D
I'd weld some extensions to the black pipe section to cover the fasteners. That way you add some protection against the described attack when the lock is in place without compromising your trailer's serviceability in case of damage.
It won't matter if that sleeve covered those bolts. A high quality ( not the Amazon or Home Depot ) wheel rim locks, Rack'Em with an Abloy or Medeco cylinder upgrade, along with whatever else you already have. Be sure to put McGard lugnuts on all wheels including spare, as well. FAR more effective
@@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 arent the McGard locks pretty easily bypassed? I've opted for the Gorilla branded lock nuts due to the free spinning tops they offer on some models
@@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 also, why would it not matter if they extended the sleeve to cover those bolts? That pretty easily gets rid of a security vulnerability right out of the gate. That bears nothing with the wheel locks you mention right afterwards
@@jakass Most ALL locking lugnuts can be removed. The spinning collar ones are limited in fit, and still can be opened with improper or "universal" tools. "Advanced Wheel Locks" demonstrate resistance to these attacks. advancedwheellocks.com/ I have no financial insterest in this firm, just recommend their product. Oh, and these are not cheap. So for those who only buy Amazon Basics... "forgettaboutit" !
I wish you would do a breakdown of the features you expect in a high quality lock, a sort of checklist that you can run down. Also a video on serrated pins (and what they’re for) would be nice.
I imagine that, much like the spools which can put you in a false set, the serrated pins will "set" slightly at the notch without being at the right height, so the picker would have to go over them again after thinking they'd already finished with that pin. By mixing up which types of pins are in each slot, it just makes it more time consuming and cumbersome to successfully pick, which is all you're really looking for as far as the term "pick resistance" goes.
We’ve had a fully built work/ tool trailer worth 10-20k$ stolen from my family years ago and insurance didn’t do anything. We now have another fully built trailer and we use this lock. Kicks butt. All glory to God. God bless
So I bought one of these for my new travel trailer. I got the one with the aluminum puck lock. It appears Proven Industries have changed the core to a different type. The key looks completely different than the one in this video. I spent the extra money reluctantly. I wanted a hitch lock, but did not want to buy complete garbage after watching so many of LPL's videos. This thing is massive and fits my 2-5/16" ball hitch (you have to make sure you buy the correct version for the type of hitch you have. My trailer has a solid hitch that cannot be unbolted. I'm sure it can be defeated somehow, but if anyone wants the trailer that bad I'm sure they will figure out a way to get it.
I was traveling through Europe some years ago and saw similar locks but they used a triangle key. The lock had a center pin that would enter the center of the key when it was inserted into the lock. Each edge/corner of the triangle had pins so you would have to pick the lock three ways at the same time to get it open.
@@lightspamorochi766 Have you watched much of this channel? The man's opened lesser locks in a shorter time than it takes to name the two tools he's using.
Criminals are creatures of ease and opportunity. They're not gonna pick a lock to steal your hitch or your trailer. They'll just steal one that isnt locked or connected
We have some sheds around town. Sheds for baseball equipment. Sheds for soccer equipment. Sheds for Scout equipment. There is a danger to putting too nice a lock on your shed. "Wow, that is a really nice lock, they must have something cool inside.". Sheds made of wood are not impervious. Having a lock is useful. It keeps opportunistic mayhem at bay. Having too good a lock can mean making repairs because someone was curious. Some of our sheds have been broken into multiple times. We haven't every found anything missing. A 15 year old tent you would be useful to a homeless person, but it is useless as a means of getting money. We have been grateful that the damage was reduced significantly. We leave our trailer unlocked and unloaded. It is locked to a post, so the trailer doesn't wander away. If someone wants to steal what is in the trailer, they just have to open the door. Nothing there to steal and no damage to the trailer, which is much harder to repair than the shed.
I’m a boilermaker by trade and I find myself going into LPL mode during the day. Electrode sticking on one, chipping hammer dropping off the ladder On two!! Respirator Battery flat on three! Boom lift binding on five! Got a click out of my shoulder on four!! You sir have a gift! I just melt stuff that gets in my way!!!
Thanks for the outstanding review. With the enormous amount of people RVing nowadays, I'm really happy to see any new reviews in category. This is also a great video for contractors. I know people will scoff at the price, but all they have to do is watch that video you did on the Yellow $20 Reese and it'll make sense.
Exactly. I have a 14 foot dump trailer that was just over $8000 with tax and accessories. I researched coupler locks for over a week and saw that video of the cheap ones you can get at Lowe’s and Home Depot. I came across Proven Locks site and bought the one like in this video. Mine was $235. Figured I just spent over $8000 so what’s another $200 or so to get some good protection. I always wondered about my lock purchase after I came across The LPL channel. It was over 2 years ago I got the lock and now I feel even better after watching this. Picking it on your back while looking up as it’s attached to the coupler would probably make it a little harder too.
People are idiots. They'll look at $350 and go nuts over it without looking at their $15,000 trailer and $40,000 boat and considering what kind of economy makes sense when guarding $55,000 from what is truly a real threat. Trailer theft is a MASSIVE business now. Spending $350 on a lock to guard tens of thousands of dollars makes a LOT of cents.
Fantastic tilt bed utility trailer my father and I built as he is a master welder. 5‘ x 9‘ total cost for all parts to include axle and eight ply tires $950. Two 5200 series locks with logging chain and a steel cable to the axle hidden underneath. Suspect cuts both locks cuts the steel cable takes the trailer to a pawn shop less than 2 miles from my house. I recovered the trailer within two weeks and he goes to jail. All of that effort for $250 and he could not even leave the local Community to sell stolen property what a rocket scientist. Gonna try one of these locks.
I had a pop up camper stolen years ago. There was a tongue lock, but a witness said they hooked up the safety chains, and drove off. Never even bothered with the lock! Since then, I make sure to lock the wheels. Harder to steal if it can’t roll. At least they’ll have to work for it.
It seems to me that to prevent picking via common tools you just have to weld a short piece of pipe to the lock and make your key's handle longer. That prevents access to the lock by a standard tensioner and, while you can get a longer one, picking such a lock with a normal pick would be way harder due simply to the awkward way you have to hold it
I'm so glad one of the first things you mentioned was the hitch is bolted to the trailer and can be easily removed... lol. even spot welding it wouldn't really be that secure given the heft of that lock.
Took my trailers to a local trailer builder and had them cut the coupler off and weld in a new coupler setup. Bought a Fort Knox Lock. Pretty good setup, but still have infrared cameras and two dogs 😁
2 minutes 30 seconds for an expert to pick the lock. Not the worst, but not the best. A pretty good lock. I think the ways they could improve it all go into using a higher security key design with more pins, and possibly opposing pins.
Your content is variable in materials and lock types and functions. Thank you sir and thank you for shortening down your videos keeping them to the point =)
That is the basic same lock I got for my trailer. My coupler however is welded to the frame, no bolts. Different body on mine (square as opposed to round) but the puck is the same. I've always thought that "what one person can design for security, another can bypass it!" At least you'd have to pick it upside down and backwards.
As a welder I get higher strength couplers, reinforce them, and directly weld them to the frame. To take them off if damaged, I just cut it off the frame and weld a new one on. I mean I would, I haven't broken my reinforced one yet so idk why I welded it to be easily cut off with metalshop tools.
Imagine lying on your back looking up, in a dark parking lot, trying to tension the lock, while trying to pick it. You would have to be a very, very good picker, with a lot of patience and a lot of nerve. Also remember that the key way is deep inside the steel housing. It is no knock on LPL to say, that in the real world situ, he would have probably taken a lot longer than 90 seconds to pick the lock. If one spot welds the connecting bolts, I think this would encourage a thief to pick another target in the same lot.
I love how organized your page is. If you want dimple, there it is... If you want sidebars, there it is. I appreciate your organization, brother. You are on another level with the picking but I learn something with every video. Thanks.
"A trailer lock that I would use. " proceeds to pick with standard tools, disassemble and dissect with ease and does a compete assessment of the mechanics and specs. I would be very intimidated if I were a lock engineer or designer, knowing that if I thought I created a high security lock, this guy might feature it on his channel.
I shake my head every time I see one of those US style pressed steel trailer hitches. Ours are cast steel, I can't see myself trusting one like you guys use. LPL: Let me get a pinning tray Pulls out custom plastic tray, one of many he appears to own. Me: You have a 3D printer, don't you Harry?
Every time I watch what you do, it amazes me , can't believe how easy you make it looks.let me take that back how good you are ! Its watching an artist at his best.
My dad has a removable tongue on his small utility trailer, so he just takes the whole tongue in his truck, to prevent theft. You can get or make another tongue, but that's a little more specific than just replacing the hitch section, and might be enough to make a thief look for an easier trailer.
I'm Glad to see a lock that gets LPL approval, it's just that the price is a little steep, but with that much steel it is to be expected, I guess. Nice pick. At least it's beefy enough to deter the vast majority of thieves, even angle grinder carriers would know it won't be a quick getaway
The whole idea of locking/unlocking is that you're able to do both seamlessly. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of thing, it's just that your trailer is less damned if you do lock it and definitely damned if you leave the hitch exposed.
LockPicking Lawyer eases my OCD...the way you arrange the pins and parts reminds me of when I would organize my LEGO pieces making sure they were all accounted for...
Even if you weld the bolt ,all you have to have is a pair of strong arms and just twist the bolts off (break them) now that being said weld the entire coupler on ,the locking parts in there can still be replaced ,44 years in the RV business ✌don't forget about the chains ,stuff them inside the coupler lock
Based on your review on this and the resistance to theft, Cody from the channel Wranglerstar has purchased this lock for a new fully fitted Snow Bike Trailer. He thanks you and gave your channel glowing credits as he always comes here when he wants to buy locks 😉
For many years I have used a length of 4 inch thick walled pipe w1th a tab welded internally and a puck lock (American brand I believe). My arm barely fits down the pipe and I split the pipe to cover the coupler bolts. Not pretty but I lost the key a few years ago. It took a cutting torch to get at it and find the key stuck in the puck lock.
I bought this a couple of years ago because of this video. I use it on my trailer, which I store outdoors. I didn't care much for the aluminum puck lock that came with it, so I measured it up and machined my own out of stainless steel. I thought one of the few things LPL recommends is a sure thing. $250 to secure a $20k trailer is a no-brainer for me.
@Kaif Din Apple is FOS. They overprice their stuff and their Apple Only service model is not only anti-competitive but a scam. MANY expose shows have shown Apple Stores will scam you on a fix. They're not getting away it it btw. They're just donated a couple billions to Europe and will be doing more inside the USA once the anti-competition courts are done with them.
For locks, at least, piece of mind is part of what you’re buying. If the upgrade were $15, people might not believe that it was any better. Either that, or the base model would have no reason to exist, and people would complain about that. Pricing is weird because we almost never pay what something costs, just what we think it’s worth, and those are rarely the same.
Hey LPL, just curious and hope you could answer this question: Have you ever considered about making your own lock/locks? Basing this on past videos and your skill, I would bet you would make some truly killer locks in the industry.
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Imagine waking up in the middle of the night to a slight noise. You silently make your way to your front door, and just hear the words muttered "nice click out of three, small click out of three, four is binding..."
Lmfaoooooo
Best LPL comment I've ever seen
You better get that shotgun loaded quick!
MANY MUCH OUT LOUD LAUGHINGS!
Looooooool
Pro tip: Flip the trailer over for easier picking.
It'd be easier just to lift the trailer and carry it
Good idea might try this later
Why not just stand on your head and do it upside down
It did not work jotaro found me help
Just use a mirror you idiots.
When he is picking a lock he sounds like a dentist examining your teeth.
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YOU! my good sir have both gained and lost my respect in one fell swoop.
Damn I'd get a new dentist, don't like the sound of my one saying "Thats good click on 5"
i.e. a professional going through a system
Nice click out of the molar, canine is binding...
"The lock is only as good as the door, then its only as good as the walls and windows." I am glad he talked about the hitch that can be swapped without much of work or noise.
Exactly(the quote), the world's strongest lock means nothing when the door can be easily broken
This is actually also true in Software security stuff.
Yeah you may be using unbreakable military-grade security on checking the login password. But that won't protect the users that chose "password" or "123456" as their password. That also won't protect a regular authenticated user that has more permissions than it should, etc.
So you can't just protect the front door, also every single window, the roof, and maybe even more if people _really_ want to get in.
Well for this lock thinking about it you can weld sheets of metal to the side of the lock that would cover up the bolts
@@tomraineofmagigor3499 problem with that is that you then can't replace the hitch when damaged. The spot welding solution proposed makes it difficult to unbolt, especially quietly, but they can be undone when you are replacing it without too much difficulty.
@@Santisima_Trinidad no I was saying to add flanks to the lock. The idea is to make it so when the lock is in place you wouldn't be able to get the tool in
Lock-maker marketing: "It actually took LockPickingLawyer 150 seconds to pick our lock. We're the best lock by 30 seconds!"
@wkruit1 more as risk verse reward
@wkruit1 excluding professional thieves (guys who actually steal things of serious value) noone picks locks. The value of this lock is the extremely strong construction that would make destructive entry very difficult. The reality is a master lock 3 provides as much security as any padlock without a high shackle guard (ie much more expensive locks). Criminals will break the lock off in a few seconds with cutters or twist it off with a wrench. No need to pick anything tbh. This channel is one of my favorite but you need to grain of salt some of the practical application ends of his opinions. They are biased by his activity in lock sport.
wkruit1 most likely the probability of a thief pick lock is low
@@alexdavis9324 A lot Master Locks can be shimmed, bypassed or raked though. Even if thieves rarely pick locks, such simple and easily avoided exploits are genuine security weaknesses.
@@TonboIV abus locks actually are more susceptible to those exploits. Master has switched to ball bearings. Cheap locks in general have those exploits. Even if they dont again the no skill destructive entry is still a weak link they all share.
I'm simply amazed he's actually recommending a lock.
He's said in the past that recommending locks is hard because you have to know their intended use. Hes taken a lot of potshots at masterlock in the past, but he'd probably be okay with you using one to keep kids out of the closet where you are storing christmas presents.
Michael LoCoco
“Opportunistic thieves”
@@michaellococowi This is a cost-benefit calculation that only the viewer can do. He can however, grade it for example from 1-10 security wise. This is very valuable information. Then you yourself can decide, do you want to buy a level 2 lock for $3 or a level 8 lock for $150.
@@dobeedooo I'd probably amend that to a 0-10 scale based on the hex band bike lock video I saw a few weeks ago... That thing definitely didn't deserve a 1.
He also said he doesn't generally like recommending locks because his skills improve over time. A lock that gave him trouble 5 years ago would be much easier now.
I feel like Lockpickinglawyer would be the guy to break into my house and demonstrate each flaw in my home locking system right after.
That is deviant ollams job
He breaks into houses, but instead of stealing stuff he just leaves notes pointing out the flaws in each house's security systems
You jest, but that’s literally what penetration testing is.
Proven Industries also updated the lock design recently to secure it further against drilling attacks. I just bought one of these kits with the upgraded medico core in it to secure my pop up camper after my previous camper was stolen with the yellow Reese/Stanley coupler lock installed. LPL, Thank you for this sort of content. A true community service!
My question is what's stopping someone from just driving off with the safety chains attached? Obviously it's not the safest situation but if I really wanted to secure a vehicle or trailer I'd be thinking about a boot or covering the whole tongue
@@WBWBWBBThat's when you add a wheel chock lock.
The lock up a designed to hold the safety chains inside.
@@WBWBWBB one of the manufacturer videos shows how to wrap the chains into the lock housing.
took 90s for LPL to pick it open. I would trust the lock with my life
and you have to pick while on ground.
@@420sakura1 Yes...we need him to start picking the locks again, under duress.
I guess nothing is good enough to save you if the LBL is after you.
I would trust this lock with my wife.
@@john-smith. Blindfolded, hung upside down over a pool of lava sharks with laser eyes
And he'd still take under 2 minutes.
At this point its easiest to assume the fortitude of a lock based on the length of LPL's video on it.
I love LPL comment sections
@@corylocher1 my last bike got stolen with a kryptonite modulus i got as a gift. 2 weeks before i had looked up his videos on it, and cutting cable locks, and i was actively shopping for a quality ulock etc, but... that lock was LAUGHABLE. and i'm sure the thief was laughing as he rode away.
Watch them. He has done several where it was 6 minutes because he picked it 3-4 times.
LPLs Securiy Score = how many seconds LPL needs to pick a lock.
You want locks with LPLs score of 75 or more.
Remember it's a controlled environment. I would like to see him set it up outside and pick it no preparation
I was watching a Wranglerstar video, where he got and installed one of these locks on his trailer.
He asked "us" to convey his gratitude and appreciation for the effort you put in.
a prybar could easily shear the aluminum puck lock type
@@justinc9911 how? The aluminum Puck lock would be in a solid steel recess that you would first have to get out of the way before you could do anything to the aluminum lock, also you would not have a good angle to pry on it even once you've removed the recess. Unless you are the strongest person on the planet I highly doubt you could share that aluminum Puck lock at all.
You are NOT bright.@@justinc9911
As a professional mechanic, the only part I find hard to believe is that he was able to find the right size punch and it wasn't bent...
Yeah, but lock picking is like working with computer boards. You don't let knuckleheads mess with your tools.
@@derrickmoses1507 both LPL and Bosnian Bill have talked about bending, breaking and damaging tools in the course of picking locks. So if you're implying that only knuckleheads bend or break tools, I reckon I'm in good company.
If you have never had to find the mechanical limit of a tool, I'm not sure your really pushing or advancing your own limitations beyond what's comfortable and easy.
@@jerryfick613 I would imagine someone like LPL usually has three or four punches laying around.
All dental picks are actually made from retired gunsmith punches.
your jewelers tools ... how many are bent ... none ... a car mechanics tools ... it doesnt matter ... a lock or jewelry it does ... the difference between a profession where the tool needs to be able to hold a 2 ton vehicle and a tool that needs to move a pin that you could snap with a few pairs of pliers ... yeah fine detail work people LOOK AFTER their tools ... macro detail workers like mechanics dont care about their tools
when your trailer costs $60000, a few hundred to discourage easy thefts is nothing.
I was thinking the same thing maybe a very nice boat or a big trailer with lots of tools or equipment
Or you could just have it insured.
where this really comes in handy is for people who have tiny homes on wheels. where they are dropping like minimum 15k for their living situation. some tiny homes easily go 100k+
they are starting to be targeted by thieves in recent years so something like this would be life saving for those people.
@@freshcharge insurance just give you back some money sometime in the future. If you lost your boat the day before going for a trip, you still miss the trip. If you lost your tools just before a job, you still miss that job. You also need to do the paperwork instead of what you were going to do
On the other hand, this costs more than my trailer kit. 😄
LPL: "But it doesn't seem to want to move."
Pin: "Oshi-- Sorry! *click*"
3:39
When it happened
Pin: "oh... You want me to move? UwU sowwy sir, I'll get out of the way."
It didn't want to go to the garage.
Lmao
@just a channel "Push me, S-Senpai~!" :D
LPL: recommends a lock
Me: :D
It costs 300$
Me: :|
Its only for trailers
Me: :/
kuba grzegorz It fits you as a flesh light
:(
Your facial expressions: PRICELESS :·D
and only fits if you park it not on the car..
In the Action RPG game Fallout 4, the companion NPC Nick Valentine sometimes says "If they didn't want it opened, they would have bought a better lock, eh ?" when your character picks one. :D
Not to mention you also need more locks for the doors on the trailer.
"A trailer Lock I would use"
_that must be a pretty good luck_
"Picked"
*_of course_*
"That must be a pretty good luck" ... Lock
But yeah I get what you mean.
It took him a solid 2 minutes to pick it.
Thats damn near military grade
WOAH! At that price they are going to "pick my trailer" to steal my lock!
Rooster €315 to stop someone from stealing a multi thousand dollar trailer not including contents. Sounds like a bargain to me.
Not as strange as you may think, mainly in the early days, but people used to steal security cameras to then sell on as they were so valuable.
@@shotgunmary You and I have a very different idea of what kind of trailer the average person might have. I would figure the kind most people seem to have would go for about $500 used if it was in good condition. Obviously I'm not talking about something fancy like a horse trailer though.
@@shotgunmary If you have a trailer that expensive then it shouldn't be outside where it can be easily stolen anyways
@@danieljensen2626 If it is a boat trailer it could have an expensive boat on it or you could be doing the guy a favor by stealing it.
Jesse... thank you for this gift to LPL. I had asked him about this lock about six months ago in response to a customer inquiry in my line of work, and had not had the resources to send it to him for his review. I sincerely appreciate it.
Np
@@jesse578 r/nevertellmetheodds
@@jesse578 real one right here.
This is the comments section of CZcams.
I love the fact he recommends spot welding the nuts or bolts. Locks only keep honest people out.
Gawd I hate that saying. Honest people will stay out, regardless of locks, or unlocked doors. Honest people don't steal. Locks only keep out lazy people, and prevent crimes of opportunity.
I love these videos, and I think a lot of the time people tend to forget a few things.
1: he's an experienced picker and is most likely far more skilled than anyone trying to break into your things would be
2: Locks not only provide (limited) practical safety, but also social safety, meaning that someone trying to pick open a lock is inherently suspicious no matter how fast they can crack it
LPL: *Recommends a lock*
Lock Company: All of you get a 1 month vacation bonus! All of you! Even if you don't want it. We are gonna be focken rich! RICH I TELL YOU!!!
Lol
niccatipay if they are on vacation they can’t make locks to sell though. Maybe just overtime and bonuses.
@@olemissjim Some companies have a policy of not letting employees to have the same vacation on a certain date. They can have paid bonuses, but they cannot take a vacation all at the same time.
@@niccatipay And in European companies, everyone in the company goes on vacation at the same time. (Or at least they used to). "We all take the month of August off every year."
@@ScottKenny1978 Tell me about it. I work in the US for a French company and NOTHING happens in August.
An 8 minute video? What a time to be alive!
MoutainMan3000 almost 9
@Swampy but he cant monetize them if there under 10 minutes
@@wheeler3339 False! Try to keep up man.
@Swampy I thought you were saying he stretched out his videos for the money
MoutainMan3000 8 minute and 41 second.
Almost a minute and a half to pick open...goddamn, that's impressive! Especially once you factor in the fact that in it's proper place, you'd have to be on your back under the tow hitch to pick it, probably with sub-par lighting...for a normal lockpicker, this would probably take at least ten minutes! Assuming they didn't just give up.
I am a metal fabricator, and with new tool technology, I would use a small lithium powered die grinder that could be hidden in a front hoodie pocket, and grind off the bolts heads that attach the trailer neck as he pointed out in the video. It would take me probably 10 seconds per bolt, so less than a minute total and no skill required. The tool is only about $120.
@@Steven-gv1ke Being a welder, if they are shitty welds (very likely since most people cant weld worth a shit) it wont take much doing to defeat that either. The same tool will work.
@@theq4602 it's the bolts that are being welded so by attacking the bolts you are attacking the welds
Wow, I think that's the longest lock picking I've seen from LPL
Starts at 3:08
Finishes at 4:34
86 seconds, nearly a minute and a half, impressive lock!
there's lock he hasn't picked as well
Long video. I think it needs a trailer.
Ha!
😆
69 likes, i can't ruin it, but consider this comment my like
@@joseangelmonterroza9364 It has surpassed 69 by far now, you may now leave a like to get it closer to 420.
It took me a year, but I found the best reply on this video.
This is the kind of lock that says [Expert] when you try to lockpick it
As long as it doesn't say master...
When are we gonna get an *[Elder]* lock recommendation tho
Just wait for the lock that is , this door requires a key
@@johnshelton4753 LPL builds them, but only releases them to select subscribers. #PleaseMakeThisReal
@@cmelton6796 ah yes the man that can pick any lock is also the man that makes the only unpickable lock
I’ve never followed a channel for so long and not had a clue what’s going on.. Like, Ever..
So true
Damn this comment is so undervalued. I’ve followed Bosnian Bill and LPL for at least 4 maybe 5 years? I’m just as clueless as when I started. It’s basically a different language. 😂
Same. I dont even really care about lockpicking. But yeah
Have you bought a set of picks yet?
I wonder what percentage of his viewers have any experience or interest in locks or lock picking besides his videos. I'd bet a huge majority only follow him when it comes to lockpicking and I'd be among them.
Imagine being at Walmart and his voice comes on the intercom saying “no mess in aisle two... clean up in aisle three”
Its 5:45 am and im watching a vid on trailer locks but i dont even have a trailer
edit: after a year later i fix my spelling mistake lol
549 am for me lol
Stiliriser Michonta don't get one. I can't sleep afraid someone will steal it.. 330am
After watching these videos acquiring a trailer should be easy!
@@gJonii good luck!
Stiliriser, same here.
No trailer but Damn an over 8 minute video with LPL saying that it's a lock he would consider using, I just HAD to see it.
3:42 LITTLE CLICK OUT OF FIVE? I think even my neighborhood heard that and I am watching this with headphones!.
😂
when the god of lock picking has to spend a whole 90 seconds to open your lock you know you did a good job
Pac Lock is a good company that listens to the lock sport community. I wouldn't be surprised if they show up in these comments, with technical info about this core.
Hello, Pac Lock here. Technical info: this lock has a key.
They actually have shown up in comments sections before, answering peoples' questions. It was awesome. Glad some companies realise how important honest PR is.
PACLOCK's here! Not sure who "A Box" is, but always happy to see comments about our products! The core in this lock is pretty much a defecto standard for us with an update on the stainless steel pins.
@@paclockpres.9805 I have absolutely no interest in locks because I have nothing, but I think it's awesome that you guys bother to acknowledge some niche community and involve yourselves in it.
@@spartan456 Wow, you truly live the "Spartan lifestyle" then if you have nothing! Being an Army guy, I am all about spartan work places and lifestyles! This locksport community has been good to us ~ not because we somehow rig the reviews, but because we feel like we can count on getting honest reviews. If we're not hitting the target, then we'll adjust fire because we can. Hopefully one day you'll need a PACLOCK!
1:49 I live where they love to salt the roads in winter rust is the only spot weld i need lol
Now that is funny!!!!!
laughing in wd40
MDOT’s great. Never had a car last a year without rusting.
@@rugger8787 what do you expect that to do? make it moist?
@@hornetf18 im just south of ya so not as bad but bad enough.
There's also room to put your Safety Chain Hooks inside the lock. This way, they can't just hook up with the chains.
No, but they can just use chains or ratchet straps to hook your trailer to their truck.
this is the only man who can say, "I have a particular set of skills...." and actually mean it. if he decided to use his skills for evil, he easily could, and would be great at it.
My late father used to say: "Locks are intended for honest people" and that is so true. If you want in, you get in, and the professionals just do it faster..
The original saying was, "Locks just help keep honest people honest."
@@thomaslevy2119 It may well have been the original. My father just chose to say it like that. Maybe some was altered in translation, as we live in Norway.. Do you know who was the first to use that saying?
I've had similar 'conversations' with my wife when she tells me off for leaving the patio door open.
@@raymasek4127 I am sure she would, as do my wife. Fortunately we live in an island and thieves are few and far between here. People will sometimes leave their car with the engine running in the winter time, outside the shops, and not bother to lock up their house if they leave for a few hours. Nothing almost ever gets taken, and thieves are easily found and caught, because we know who is who. Besides, security cameras with cloud feed is a nice insurance, and more people have them now.
I don't like any version of that saying except for the true original version of it. the true original version goes as follows "honest locks keep honest people honest". Even then I don't like it because what it means is that locks like the master 140 series are not honest walks and they do not keep honest people honest but other than that all locks are the same. I tend to disagree with that statement most thieves will usually go for the lowest risk to highest possible reward thing they can steal place they can break into or what ever they're doing, so if you slap a Squier stronghold ss100cs with appropriate chain and use that for your motorbike most thieves aren't even going to bother cuz there will likely be a motorbike with a weaker chain and similar or higher value than your own motorbike.
I just bought this lock for our airstream because it looked like the strongest available. When I saw you posted a video I immediately thought, oh great I just waisted a lot of money. However it was nice to see it gave a slight bit of challenge to you. I suspect the local thief won’t have your skill or the patience.
Thanks
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you were like "damn it I need a new lock now" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think it's strong, though mostly all locks are quick to pick for those who know how. The best ones out there have a harsh curve 90 degrees or more, this keeps the lock picks from easily gaining access. Chances are your lock will be just fine for most criminals.
I've always enjoyed this channel's videos. I don't know much about locks, and the videos are always fascinating. But now we're veering into territory I have some experience with: trailer security.
Whenever you think about security, it's a really good idea to have a threat model. In other words, understand who you think your attacker is. I don't think that the threat model for trailer theft is a lock picker. Rather, it's someone with a pickup truck, and a handful of tools, particularly an angle grinder, a plasma cutter, and a MIG welder. In the real world, the pick resistance of this lock matters a lot less than the tool resistance. On the plus side, this lock is going to be tougher to get through with an angle grinder than most of the minimalist trailer hitch locks one sees. But on the negative side, there are some regions of the country (Florida boat thefts come to mind), where it's not that uncommon for trailer hitches to be cut off the trailer, a new hitch quickly welded on, and the trailer driven away. Many people are amazed at how quickly that operation can be performed by an experienced thief. In that circumstance, this lock will do you absolutely no good.
If I really didn't want my trailer to be stolen, I'd put a minimalist hitch lock on it to deter the amateurs, but my main security would come from a wheel lock. Can wheel locks also be defeated? Sure. But it has the virtue of being way less common, and "security through obscurity" does have some benefit. There are professional trailer thieves that are prepared to deal with any hitch lock they encounter, but won't be carrying the gear needed for a wheel lock.
Just one a**h*le's opinion: free advice that's worth what you paid for it.
You have given the next step without saying it,BOTH MEASURES ! Use a Hitch & Wheel Lock Combination,making it as Time consuming as possible. 1 look @ that and they may just pass you by,with LUCK ! Making it as difficult as possible was the right track,maybe a little overboard thinking,but how much is your $#!T Worth !
The precision required to make these parts is insane, as a student of Mech Eng this feels so good to see for the mechanism part lol
This cannot surely be!
A lock that gets the nod from the LPL
Because it took over fifteen seconds to open.
I don't even care about lockpickin' but i still watch your videos. Guess that says something about this guys videos huh!
Same
@Hell's favorite Salty Masshole that's a nice way of seeing it and a true one, too. Men are great. Women usually don'T appreciate men's work really, not even mentioning women's work.
LPL: recommends a lock
Me: :D
It costs 300$
Me: :|
Its only for trailers
Me: :/
Sometimes the satisfaction from raw skill is enough
@@sadiehunt4366 where’d you get that one?
5:23 “Let’s get this all out onto a tray. Nice. “
About 5 of us get this reference.
@@garywatson steve1989 my man
Nice!
Always layer your security. Never rely on just one type of lock. Use a hitch, wheel, lift, etc. The more difficult and time consuming it takes, the greater the deterrence.
How about take the wheels off the trailer
@@dakotaanderson254 or just deflate the tires and remove the stem. There are a lot of ways to thwart thieves, and they will try to overcome all of them.
Wife: Him can you get the trailer hooked up so we can leave?
Husband: Okay babe
Husband: *unlocking hitch, wheel #1, wheel #2, lift and gate lock.
Wife: Why did it take you 50 minutes to get that trailer hooked up?!?
Husband: *holding bag with 20 different locks* babe I had to LPL proof the trailer
My jetski trailer stolen with a lock on the coupler. I was told the thieves just connect the chains and drive away. Now I put a small gps tracker on the trailer. Would love to see the look on the thieves face when I show up to their house to pick up my trailer next time.
Hopefully with the title and the cops. I had my car stolen and had a really hard time proving it was actually MY CAR, the assholes had a ring going had the thing rekeyed and papered before we found it. All on accident, a friend saw my car, (very specific dent on the bumper, from my girlfriend's bad driving) and called me. Cops told me the guy who stole it, his WIFE was driving it around like it was hers. Anyway took me close to a month to get it back, AFTER we found it, I had to go to court and prove to a judge it was mine. My next door neighbor had her car stolen too, by a different group and they just stripped it and dumped it in the woods cops found hers because they had been finding stolen cars in the same place stripped for a few months. I hate thieves! I did not even want my car back after everything I ended up selling it, for cheap it did not feel like it was mine anymore. All her kids stuff was in the back of it. I had to pay the tow truck driver that went and got it for me in the middle of the night $1500 bucks. The worse thing is not a damn thing happened to the people that stole it. Nothing
JustAnother InternetExpert thanks for the heads up i just took my titles out of my cars made copies and took pictures of the title with the car in the background.
You should always wrap your chains around each other like a twist tie and then run a good pad lock through them in addition to the coupler lock. That GPS is a GREAT idea as well.
@@user-lq1dk6gr3p That was my mistake i FOOLISHLY left the title in the glove box. I admit it was a bone head move and totally asking for trouble. But until it happens to you, i think most people feel like it will never happen to them. If that makes sense. Idk. Anyway yeah a Picture with the car and title in hand would have probably helped ALOT good thinking! The world we live in is getting worse as far as morals go. Seems like more and more people are OK with screwing over their neighbor. We gotta get back to the family dynamic and more community involvement in my opinion. Have a good day! Enjoy your jet ski they are really fun.
@@justanotherinternetexpert7743 The world we live in is not getting worse as far as morals go (on a per capita basis), you just see it more due to the 24 hour media cycle combined with the internet. Per capita Burglary/Robbery rates were far higher in 1980 than they are right now, same with violent crime rates, far higher per capita in the early 80's. Overall the highest peaks for all crimes in total in the past 100 years were in 1980 and 1991, they have been on a downward trend ever since then. Again, statistics prove that crime rates were higher per capita 40 years ago, than they are right now (they were also higher as early as 1973).
Wranglerstar, a CZcamsr who likes your channel, thank's you for this video and lock recommendation. I was just on his channel and he bought this trailer lock and was super impressed with it. Heavy, good quality steel, excellent welds and good design. The cut out fits perfectly over the hitch arms and guard too.
the coupler for most low weight trailers is bolted, but the couplers for heavy trailers like big campers and tow behinds are welded as well.
I can just imagine him sitting around millions of tools just at the ready.
When you mentioned how this would be harder to pick if it was under a trailer on the ground... It really made me wish you had some videos of you picking locks in super awkward positions! How about a video of you picking this lock under a trailer? =D
Very true
Very true
@@thesunisfun423 ?
@@thesunisfun423 ?
I'd weld some extensions to the black pipe section to cover the fasteners. That way you add some protection against the described attack when the lock is in place without compromising your trailer's serviceability in case of damage.
It won't matter if that sleeve covered those bolts. A high quality ( not the Amazon or Home Depot ) wheel rim locks, Rack'Em with an Abloy or Medeco cylinder upgrade, along with whatever else you already have. Be sure to put McGard lugnuts on all wheels including spare, as well. FAR more effective
That's a good idea. I'll be doing this if I ever get a trailer valuable enough to care about it being stolen
@@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 arent the McGard locks pretty easily bypassed? I've opted for the Gorilla branded lock nuts due to the free spinning tops they offer on some models
@@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 also, why would it not matter if they extended the sleeve to cover those bolts? That pretty easily gets rid of a security vulnerability right out of the gate. That bears nothing with the wheel locks you mention right afterwards
@@jakass Most ALL locking lugnuts can be removed. The spinning collar ones are limited in fit, and still can be opened with improper or "universal" tools. "Advanced Wheel Locks" demonstrate resistance to these attacks. advancedwheellocks.com/ I have no financial insterest in this firm, just recommend their product. Oh, and these are not cheap. So for those who only buy Amazon Basics... "forgettaboutit" !
I wish you would do a breakdown of the features you expect in a high quality lock, a sort of checklist that you can run down. Also a video on serrated pins (and what they’re for) would be nice.
I imagine that, much like the spools which can put you in a false set, the serrated pins will "set" slightly at the notch without being at the right height, so the picker would have to go over them again after thinking they'd already finished with that pin.
By mixing up which types of pins are in each slot, it just makes it more time consuming and cumbersome to successfully pick, which is all you're really looking for as far as the term "pick resistance" goes.
We’ve had a fully built work/ tool trailer worth 10-20k$ stolen from my family years ago and insurance didn’t do anything. We now have another fully built trailer and we use this lock. Kicks butt. All glory to God. God bless
Paclock seems to be really trying to get things right. Good for them!
LPL: A trailer lock that I would use
Everyone: Buy that shit
So I bought one of these for my new travel trailer. I got the one with the aluminum puck lock. It appears Proven Industries have changed the core to a different type. The key looks completely different than the one in this video. I spent the extra money reluctantly. I wanted a hitch lock, but did not want to buy complete garbage after watching so many of LPL's videos. This thing is massive and fits my 2-5/16" ball hitch (you have to make sure you buy the correct version for the type of hitch you have. My trailer has a solid hitch that cannot be unbolted. I'm sure it can be defeated somehow, but if anyone wants the trailer that bad I'm sure they will figure out a way to get it.
I was traveling through Europe some years ago and saw similar locks but they used a triangle key. The lock had a center pin that would enter the center of the key when it was inserted into the lock. Each edge/corner of the triangle had pins so you would have to pick the lock three ways at the same time to get it open.
over 2 minutes to pick. Must be good lock
Over 2 minutes for LPL means over 2 hours for the normal hooligan
I don’t know if it is really true, but I have heard that most of the thieves give up in about 10 seconds because of the nervousness.
@@QuickishFM it means never for a normal hooligan
It didnt even take him 90 seconds...
@@lightspamorochi766 Have you watched much of this channel? The man's opened lesser locks in a shorter time than it takes to name the two tools he's using.
Criminals are creatures of ease and opportunity. They're not gonna pick a lock to steal your hitch or your trailer. They'll just steal one that isnt locked or connected
At this price, they'd probably be more interested in stealing the lock!
We have some sheds around town. Sheds for baseball equipment. Sheds for soccer equipment. Sheds for Scout equipment. There is a danger to putting too nice a lock on your shed. "Wow, that is a really nice lock, they must have something cool inside.". Sheds made of wood are not impervious. Having a lock is useful. It keeps opportunistic mayhem at bay. Having too good a lock can mean making repairs because someone was curious.
Some of our sheds have been broken into multiple times. We haven't every found anything missing. A 15 year old tent you would be useful to a homeless person, but it is useless as a means of getting money. We have been grateful that the damage was reduced significantly.
We leave our trailer unlocked and unloaded. It is locked to a post, so the trailer doesn't wander away. If someone wants to steal what is in the trailer, they just have to open the door. Nothing there to steal and no damage to the trailer, which is much harder to repair than the shed.
I’m a boilermaker by trade and I find myself going into LPL mode during the day.
Electrode sticking on one,
chipping hammer dropping off the ladder
On two!!
Respirator Battery flat on three!
Boom lift binding on five!
Got a click out of my shoulder on four!!
You sir have a gift!
I just melt stuff that gets in my way!!!
Thanks Jessie for allowing LPL to make this interesting video.
Thanks for the outstanding review. With the enormous amount of people RVing nowadays, I'm really happy to see any new reviews in category. This is also a great video for contractors. I know people will scoff at the price, but all they have to do is watch that video you did on the Yellow $20 Reese and it'll make sense.
Exactly. I have a 14 foot dump trailer that was just over $8000 with tax and accessories. I researched coupler locks for over a week and saw that video of the cheap ones you can get at Lowe’s and Home Depot. I came across Proven Locks site and bought the one like in this video. Mine was $235. Figured I just spent over $8000 so what’s another $200 or so to get some good protection. I always wondered about my lock purchase after I came across The LPL channel. It was over 2 years ago I got the lock and now I feel even better after watching this. Picking it on your back while looking up as it’s attached to the coupler would probably make it a little harder too.
People are idiots. They'll look at $350 and go nuts over it without looking at their $15,000 trailer and $40,000 boat and considering what kind of economy makes sense when guarding $55,000 from what is truly a real threat. Trailer theft is a MASSIVE business now. Spending $350 on a lock to guard tens of thousands of dollars makes a LOT of cents.
Fantastic tilt bed utility trailer my father and I built as he is a master welder. 5‘ x 9‘ total cost for all parts to include axle and eight ply tires $950. Two 5200 series locks with logging chain and a steel cable to the axle hidden underneath. Suspect cuts both locks cuts the steel cable takes the trailer to a pawn shop less than 2 miles from my house. I recovered the trailer within two weeks and he goes to jail. All of that effort for $250 and he could not even leave the local Community to sell stolen property what a rocket scientist. Gonna try one of these locks.
I had a pop up camper stolen years ago. There was a tongue lock, but a witness said they hooked up the safety chains, and drove off. Never even bothered with the lock! Since then, I make sure to lock the wheels. Harder to steal if it can’t roll. At least they’ll have to work for it.
Could you do a vid explaining the different types of pins and what benefits/vulnerabilities they have?
watch some of his puzzle lock videos, he "sorta" goes into detail on those.
Check Bosnian I for that
It seems to me that to prevent picking via common tools you just have to weld a short piece of pipe to the lock and make your key's handle longer.
That prevents access to the lock by a standard tensioner and, while you can get a longer one, picking such a lock with a normal pick would be way harder due simply to the awkward way you have to hold it
I'm so glad one of the first things you mentioned was the hitch is bolted to the trailer and can be easily removed... lol.
even spot welding it wouldn't really be that secure given the heft of that lock.
Took my trailers to a local trailer builder and had them cut the coupler off and weld in a new coupler setup. Bought a Fort Knox Lock. Pretty good setup, but still have infrared cameras and two dogs 😁
2 minutes 30 seconds for an expert to pick the lock.
Not the worst, but not the best. A pretty good lock.
I think the ways they could improve it all go into using a higher security key design with more pins, and possibly opposing pins.
Your content is variable in materials and lock types and functions. Thank you sir and thank you for shortening down your videos keeping them to the point =)
That is the basic same lock I got for my trailer. My coupler however is welded to the frame, no bolts. Different body on mine (square as opposed to round) but the puck is the same. I've always thought that "what one person can design for security, another can bypass it!" At least you'd have to pick it upside down and backwards.
As a welder I get higher strength couplers, reinforce them, and directly weld them to the frame. To take them off if damaged, I just cut it off the frame and weld a new one on. I mean I would, I haven't broken my reinforced one yet so idk why I welded it to be easily cut off with metalshop tools.
Imagine lying on your back looking up, in a dark parking lot, trying to tension the lock, while trying to pick it. You would have to be a very, very good picker, with a lot of patience and a lot of nerve.
Also remember that the key way is deep inside the steel housing. It is no knock on LPL to say, that in the real world situ, he would have probably taken a lot longer than 90 seconds to pick the lock.
If one spot welds the connecting bolts, I think this would encourage a thief to pick another target in the same lot.
"Absolutely Amazing Lock" *Picks in 20 seconds* "Simply Excellent Design"
Receiving LPLs approval, truly a career defining achievement for any lock company
I love how organized your page is. If you want dimple, there it is... If you want sidebars, there it is. I appreciate your organization, brother. You are on another level with the picking but I learn something with every video. Thanks.
Man, I just want to say that you do a heck of a job. You got the voice and the skills. I'm not into picking locks but the information is just great.
"A trailer lock that I would use. " proceeds to pick with standard tools, disassemble and dissect with ease and does a compete assessment of the mechanics and specs.
I would be very intimidated if I were a lock engineer or designer, knowing that if I thought I created a high security lock, this guy might feature it on his channel.
I shake my head every time I see one of those US style pressed steel trailer hitches. Ours are cast steel, I can't see myself trusting one like you guys use.
LPL: Let me get a pinning tray
Pulls out custom plastic tray, one of many he appears to own.
Me: You have a 3D printer, don't you Harry?
Every time I watch what you do, it amazes me , can't believe how easy you make it looks.let me take that back how good you are ! Its watching an artist at his best.
LPL recommended a lock, should have assumed a huge price tag. Can argue with the results though, thank you for the video.
Listening to this guy talk while he picks locks reminds me of like every eye doctor appt ever
I have no interest in lock picking, but truly enjoy your skill ....
So will subscribe and keep watching...truly impressive 👏
Thank you
My dad has a removable tongue on his small utility trailer, so he just takes the whole tongue in his truck, to prevent theft. You can get or make another tongue, but that's a little more specific than just replacing the hitch section, and might be enough to make a thief look for an easier trailer.
LPL: Let’s take this apart and see what’s inside
Lock’s face: :0
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I'm Glad to see a lock that gets LPL approval, it's just that the price is a little steep, but with that much steel it is to be expected, I guess. Nice pick. At least it's beefy enough to deter the vast majority of thieves, even angle grinder carriers would know it won't be a quick getaway
It's 4 am and I've been up all night but I'm watching a video on trailer locks when I'll never even have a trailer. I love it here.
Thanks for helping me choose a better trailer lock than the yellow master lock everyone uses. Been watching you for years! Keep up the great content!
I think, I would just weld the coupler shut if I was really paranoid about it.
That would kind of defeat being able to attach or remove the trailer from the truck.
Ozan thats not a trailer at that point though is it
The whole idea of locking/unlocking is that you're able to do both seamlessly. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of thing, it's just that your trailer is less damned if you do lock it and definitely damned if you leave the hitch exposed.
Guys? You do realize that I was being sarcastic, right?
@@aliozanerbektas not every one is smart to see that 🤣
Man, you're so well-spoken LPL. You should be a lawy...
Oh yeah, that's right.
I was actually just thinking, is he actually a lawyer? Or is he just the lawyer of picking locks?
@@ethanfields3853 We will never know.
LockPicking Lawyer eases my OCD...the way you arrange the pins and parts reminds me of when I would organize my LEGO pieces making sure they were all accounted for...
Even if you weld the bolt ,all you have to have is a pair of strong arms and just twist the bolts off (break them) now that being said weld the entire coupler on ,the locking parts in there can still be replaced ,44 years in the RV business ✌don't forget about the chains ,stuff them inside the coupler lock
CEO’s of lock manufacturers all have the same reoccurring nightmare of being forcibly undressed after seeing LPL bring out pinning tray.
Based on your review on this and the resistance to theft, Cody from the channel Wranglerstar has purchased this lock for a new fully fitted Snow Bike Trailer. He thanks you and gave your channel glowing credits as he always comes here when he wants to buy locks 😉
For many years I have used a length of 4 inch thick walled pipe w1th a tab welded internally and a puck lock (American brand I believe). My arm barely fits down the pipe and I split the pipe to cover the coupler bolts.
Not pretty but I lost the key a few years ago. It took a cutting torch to get at it and find the key stuck in the puck lock.
I bought this a couple of years ago because of this video. I use it on my trailer, which I store outdoors. I didn't care much for the aluminum puck lock that came with it, so I measured it up and machined my own out of stainless steel. I thought one of the few things LPL recommends is a sure thing. $250 to secure a $20k trailer is a no-brainer for me.
The Apple pricing model. Charge 4 times what the upgrade is worth.
You think the pro stand is actually worth $250? ;)
apple is awesome. no, really, selling a sheet of metal for $1,000 truly is awe-inspiring
@Kaif Din Apple is FOS. They overprice their stuff and their Apple Only service model is not only anti-competitive but a scam. MANY expose shows have shown Apple Stores will scam you on a fix.
They're not getting away it it btw. They're just donated a couple billions to Europe and will be doing more inside the USA once the anti-competition courts are done with them.
For locks, at least, piece of mind is part of what you’re buying. If the upgrade were $15, people might not believe that it was any better. Either that, or the base model would have no reason to exist, and people would complain about that. Pricing is weird because we almost never pay what something costs, just what we think it’s worth, and those are rarely the same.
Hey LPL, just curious and hope you could answer this question:
Have you ever considered about making your own lock/locks? Basing this on past videos and your skill, I would bet you would make some truly killer locks in the industry.
Flawless picking, beautiful lock ,really like this design!
I may not be a professional locksmith but that is definitely impressive and I can understand why they charge so much, that design alone is worth it.
When he says the numbers he reminds me of eye doctor when I'm getting a new prescription