Making the Band: Dark History of Boybands

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  • čas přidán 10. 06. 2024
  • Hi friends, happy Thursday!
    Welcome to the Dark History podcast. Who remembers the epic battle of our childhood known as NSYNC vs Backstreet Boys? Cause boy do I remember it. But what I did not realize was that it was all fake. It was orchestrated by one man who was raking in the cash from both bands. Today we get into that and much MUCH more about the dark history of boy bands, from when they started to where they are now. And let me tell you, it is QUITE a tale.
    I appreciate you for coming by, and tune in next week for more dark history.
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    CHAPTERS
    00:00 INTRO
    04:11 THE WIZARD OF OSMOND
    06:32 THE JACKSON 5
    14:08 YO QUIERO MENUDO
    20:20 A NEW EDITION OF AN OLD FORMULA
    25:59 DIAMONDS AND PEARLMANS
    30:49 NO AC... IN FLORIDA?!
    38:52 THIS I PROMISE YOU: LOU'S A DOUCHE CANOE
    46:48 QUIT PLAYING GAMES WITH MY MONEY
    51:41 CONCLUSION
    Dark History is an Audioboom Original.
    This podcast is Executive Produced by:
    Bailey Sarian, Kim Jacobs, Dunia McNeily from 3arts, Justin Comins, and Claire Turner From Wheelhouse DNA
    Producer: Lexxi Kiven
    Research provided by: Romona Kivett
    Writers: Jed Bookout, Joey Scavuzzo, and Kim Yaged
    I'm your host -- Bailey Sarian
    Video Director: Trent Barboza and Eric Abell
    Shot By: Tafadzwa Nemarundwe
    Edited by: Jim Luci
    Production Management: Meredith Ewinger
    Dark History is an Audioboom Original.
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  • @MrQuantavious13
    @MrQuantavious13 Před 2 lety +3051

    Wait wait wait….Bailey if there isn’t a “Dark History of Disney” episode then maybe you’d consider making one? 🤞🏾

    • @davidvento5481
      @davidvento5481 Před 2 lety +111

      That would be great and au courant. Unfortunately the world of “Disney” is a very hot topic nowadays. With all the current controversy between Disney Corp & the religious right Bailey might not want to be thrown into the mix.

    • @MrQuantavious13
      @MrQuantavious13 Před 2 lety +13

      @@davidvento5481 understandable

    • @loveli420
      @loveli420 Před 2 lety +117

      Disney is pretty much untouchable. They'd sue her into the next dimension.

    • @kirstyngalea8448
      @kirstyngalea8448 Před 2 lety +1

      YES

    • @maziedeigh9747
      @maziedeigh9747 Před 2 lety +20

      This would be a serious not an episode 🤣

  • @jessicasanchez4631
    @jessicasanchez4631 Před 2 lety +119

    She said “before he was livin la vida loca, he was livin la vida toxica” I’m dead 🤣🤣🤣

  • @joshdove
    @joshdove Před 2 lety +1521

    You could do an entire video like this on Simon Cowell. One direction, little mix, and fifth harmony all came out of the Simon cowell machine and have pretty dark history’s

    • @TrulyMademoizelle
      @TrulyMademoizelle Před 2 lety +90

      And the spice girls of course. A man named the group and it's members. 😓

    • @sonyaunfiltered8081
      @sonyaunfiltered8081 Před 2 lety +20

      don't forget prettymuch came from him too

    • @cheeky6397
      @cheeky6397 Před 2 lety +38

      Girls aloud touched on what they went through in a book. They never put much info in. We all thought they went to this great life, nope they were put in a house together, left alone for days at a time, with no contact & no suport. Its not like they could even go out. They were doing their own hair & makeup for gigs & they still looked hot. Yes theyv made their money now, only once they left simom cowell. Young kids will sign any contract when his label is telling them they will be stars. Laywers should be on standbye to help youngsters on these showes.

    • @November_Rain
      @November_Rain Před rokem +50

      She could also do multiple ones on Dan Schneider.

    • @charlaebutler5186
      @charlaebutler5186 Před rokem +1

      Yes yes do it do it if she don't do it I will be sad

  • @erinturner9618
    @erinturner9618 Před 2 lety +623

    Bye Bye Bye was actually written about Lou Pearlman after the band was able to get out of their contract with him!

    • @VesperLestrange
      @VesperLestrange Před rokem +105

      After reading this I had to go back and watch the music video....them being puppets makes so much more sense now!!!

    • @priscillanotpresley
      @priscillanotpresley Před rokem +13

      Wow!!! Did not know that

    • @calliew311
      @calliew311 Před rokem +13

      Well, it wasn't written by the group, I think it had a dual meaning.

    • @mastatema
      @mastatema Před rokem +10

      "The Swedish team of Jacob Schulze, Andreas Carlsson and Kristian Lundin wrote "Bye Bye Bye," with Lundin and Schulze producing"

    • @shainaannx17
      @shainaannx17 Před rokem +4

      Wow thats wild . It makes so much sense

  • @tcoleanderson
    @tcoleanderson Před 2 lety +496

    The music starts and my daughter says “YES DARK HISTORY! Watch it now so you can see if it’s one I can watch yet!” We love you Bailey 🖤

    • @LotsofLisa
      @LotsofLisa Před 2 lety +7

      How cute! Which ones have you not allowed her to watch?

    • @tcoleanderson
      @tcoleanderson Před 2 lety +57

      @@LotsofLisa she’s watch quite a few. She is a youngster so it just depends on the content. I don’t sugar coat history for her. She asks me to give her the age appropriate version until she is able to watch them herself. It’s amazing bonding time. I appreciate what Bailey does so much.

    • @abbigailhanson4868
      @abbigailhanson4868 Před 2 lety +18

      I let my daughter watch the banana episode and now the name "Sam" is no longer safe in our house

    • @kristimcintosh7725
      @kristimcintosh7725 Před 2 lety +20

      All my daughter wanted for Christmas was dark history merch now all her aunts watch this channel too☺️

    • @Tea_W
      @Tea_W Před 2 lety +8

      🥺 that’s precious! What a cool kid 😊

  • @TVGuild
    @TVGuild Před 2 lety +664

    You should do a dark history on MLMs!! So many of them it’s crazy and they specifically target women, stay at home moms, college kids, churches, military wives and it’s so awful how they prey on people.
    Tupperware, Cutco, Mary Kay, Amway, Thrive, Usborne, HerbalLife, scentsy, Avon, Monat, Primerica, Doterra, Isagenix, Lularoe, I could go on

    • @ouestlelivre
      @ouestlelivre Před 2 lety +35

      Yes. This would be a great subject for Dark History. And don't forget Optavia. Basically you're paying a lot of money to get an eating disorder.

    • @mwbl11510
      @mwbl11510 Před 2 lety +23

      Yessss!!! Don’t forget to look into Amway..a lot of people don’t know about that one and it’s a big one.

    • @richiethev4623
      @richiethev4623 Před 2 lety +32

      Let's face facts about Tupperware their quality is up their and puts the stuff sold by Rubbermaid & generic companies to shame. I said what I said..

    • @personality_crisis2463
      @personality_crisis2463 Před 2 lety +15

      Bailey is the only person that could explain MLM`s in a way that is interesting

    • @kennedyandrews9186
      @kennedyandrews9186 Před 2 lety +8

      I used to be a part of cutco and left the minute I could. I had recruited family into it. It’s all a lie. Nothing is your own choice despite what they tell you

  • @julianne7397
    @julianne7397 Před 2 lety +380

    I'd love a kpop dark history from Bailey's next episode 😁

    • @sofvpgn
      @sofvpgn Před rokem +6

      same

    • @XLindsLuvsPinkX
      @XLindsLuvsPinkX Před rokem +20

      Seriously. I think kpop managers are just as bad, if not a little worse, than American managers. I watched a documentary on the creation of one of many kpop female groups, and it was insane.

    • @Teddyungen
      @Teddyungen Před rokem +19

      There is such a big rabbit hole going in to the K-pop world. I would love to see Bailey do a episode on it

    • @saylalisalovemelalisalovem3334
      @saylalisalovemelalisalovem3334 Před 11 měsíci +2

      sameeee

    • @zoharakhan4725
      @zoharakhan4725 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Samee

  • @haleyranney8200
    @haleyranney8200 Před rokem +191

    Man, every time I hear a story starting with Walt Disney, I KNOW it’s gonna be bad. Please do a dark history on Disney!!!!!

  • @brooklyn3253
    @brooklyn3253 Před 2 lety +60

    I will never forget in the One Direction documentary, the producer woke up Zayn for him to record for him and Zayn said "how long have I been asleep?" and the guy said "15 minutes." Thats insane! I cannot imagine having to do shows, make music, do interviews, interact with fans, rehearse, etc all on 15 minutes of sleep. Then do it all again the next day. Thats rough.

  • @TsukuyomiChi
    @TsukuyomiChi Před 2 lety +1007

    Bailey I've been wondering if theres any dark history behind wedding dresses, as I was watching "Say yes to the dress" the other day I caught myself thinking that it doesnt seem to have an end to how many dresses designs we can create, and how did it all started. Would love it if you ever talked about it :)

    • @Thequietone974
      @Thequietone974 Před 2 lety +106

      Funerals too. If you look into the backstory , you’ll see that everything, from the ring to the invitations has a satanic meaning.

    • @krystaljohnson5908
      @krystaljohnson5908 Před 2 lety +22

      I love both of these ideas ❤️

    • @annettejones7777
      @annettejones7777 Před 2 lety +36

      Yes. There is a dark history behind all of the typical wedding traditions.

    • @nicokl5593
      @nicokl5593 Před 2 lety +41

      Ever do the research into Christmas ornaments? That’s a disturbing one!

    • @paigemichellee
      @paigemichellee Před 2 lety +20

      Definitely! Dark history of the wedding industry or something like that would be so interesting. The funeral industry as well.

  • @multi_fan127
    @multi_fan127 Před rokem +37

    As a K-Pop fan I thank you for also bringing this into the light to american people because we as fans can only do so much and plead their company's to give them breaks! They suffer the most by given horrible diets, and some include long hours of fasting! Thank you, for also acknowledging the unaliving of these kpop idols! Because this more common in this industry then most! Thank you for your acknowledgement! ❤️❤️

  • @chelseacooper1036
    @chelseacooper1036 Před 2 lety +74

    Also three of the New Edition members became Bell Biv Devoe that gave us the party classic Poison

    • @ThisIsPodcastSpencer
      @ThisIsPodcastSpencer Před rokem +5

      That girl is poisoonn (poison!)

    • @regiongayoso3174
      @regiongayoso3174 Před rokem +1

      is it Bardot?

    • @lexuscoleman4488
      @lexuscoleman4488 Před rokem +5

      Don’t forget They became producers and discovered boys 2 men

    • @angasalhctib
      @angasalhctib Před rokem +2

      @@lexuscoleman4488 im learning soo much from this comment section. thank you guys for all these incredible facts!!!

    • @FigaDJ
      @FigaDJ Před rokem +1

      As Bobbys no1 fan I had to jump in… New Edition also gave us Bobby Brown ❤

  • @atomiclovebomb
    @atomiclovebomb Před 2 lety +285

    Giiiiirl when you were talking about how every member plays a ‘role’ in the group, I had flashbacks to my teen years of stanning Fifth Harmony. The sweet one, Ally. The bad girl, Lauren, the hot one, Dinah, the quirky relatable one, Camila and the sporty dancer Miss Normani. A Dark History about the mistreatment of girl groups would absolutely smash tbh

    • @mascorroheidi21
      @mascorroheidi21 Před 2 lety +4

      Love this idea!

    • @Noey87
      @Noey87 Před 2 lety +6

      That's THE Normani right? I know, I know, I live under a rock with CZcams.

    • @JuriAmari
      @JuriAmari Před 2 lety +3

      @@Noey87 yep. That’s her!

    • @cailin5309
      @cailin5309 Před 2 lety

      Isn’t 5th harmony the band that kris Jenner passed on managing??

    • @atomiclovebomb
      @atomiclovebomb Před 2 lety +1

      @@cailin5309 no, I believe she managed BG5, Fifth Harmony was under Simon Cowell’s label

  • @PabloVlogs
    @PabloVlogs Před 2 lety +1169

    As a K-pop fan myself, I totally agree with your take! And you mentioned Shinee and Girls Generation, 2 OGs of the industry and AMAZING acts! But yeah, the training and cutting program, particularly in the 3 biggest music companies in Korea are brutal, and so are the contracts.

    • @meaghannemack82
      @meaghannemack82 Před 2 lety +59

      Lee Soo man was actually inspired by what Lou Perlman was doing in the US with his groups.

    • @hyunjiniret87
      @hyunjiniret87 Před 2 lety +18

      SHINEEEEEE

    • @stepfaniecasey8654
      @stepfaniecasey8654 Před 2 lety +46

      I was wondering if she was gonna mention kpop.

    • @estefaniapereira1193
      @estefaniapereira1193 Před 2 lety +39

      agreed!! Theres so many of the companies that are actually so bad with their groups, like even to the point of being bad at their jobs, leaving girl groups to rot after only two songs, constant substitutions, overworking, almost full control over their personal lives... as a kpop fan it hurts me when i notice these veins of abuse

    • @othergeorgea
      @othergeorgea Před 2 lety +10

      Shinee and Snsd are my faves.. they’ve been through so much

  • @crashride57
    @crashride57 Před rokem +60

    I absolutely love your rendition of "ain't nothing but an ad break" you're the best 😂 😂

  • @Stillan80sgirl
    @Stillan80sgirl Před 2 lety +221

    To all those asking where were their parents, please keep in mind that these predators groom the parents too.

    • @Rachel-fi4sc
      @Rachel-fi4sc Před 2 lety +33

      Yup. Usually the first step is to gain the parents' trust, so if the kids later tell their parents what's happening, the response will be along the lines of, "How can you come up with these lies?! He's so nice!"

    • @amandacanseco5701
      @amandacanseco5701 Před rokem +28

      And that these parents are also so caught up in the fame and money they sometimes just don’t care what’s going on as long as the kid is bringing in the cash

    • @ouwebrood497
      @ouwebrood497 Před rokem

      Predators look for convenient prey. Probably, most of these kids were not that close to their parents to begin with. And lot of parents have issues regarding unfullfillment which they project on their kids. Predators snif that out.

    • @ThisIsPodcastSpencer
      @ThisIsPodcastSpencer Před rokem +23

      And let's be real, there are plenty of cases of the parents themselves doing the exploiting or going along with it for their own gain.

    • @wickedkat5061
      @wickedkat5061 Před rokem +8

      the parents were too busy counting their dollar bills to notice what was happening to their kids.

  • @mihaelaclaudiap..2
    @mihaelaclaudiap..2 Před 2 lety +2122

    If you were a history teacher, I wouldn't miss a class, I would also ask for overtime! :)

    • @brittanynicole9318
      @brittanynicole9318 Před 2 lety +39

      She probably gets paid better than most teachers. 😋

    • @naddybriel
      @naddybriel Před 2 lety +6

      and extra classes!!!

    • @mimistar7526
      @mimistar7526 Před 2 lety +7

      Me too i wouldn't be tardy either 🙋🏾‍♀️👩🏾‍🎓
      😊

    • @AdorkableTiff
      @AdorkableTiff Před 2 lety +17

      She'd be the teacher that everybody goes to their room for study hall or something 😅

    • @amandacefalu8468
      @amandacefalu8468 Před 2 lety

      Yes 👏

  • @Nikkijoey
    @Nikkijoey Před 2 lety +265

    So I started belting out “I want it that way” with you, and you and I were spot on in the harmony. Spot on. Unfortunately I’m wearing headphones and am outside, so the neighbors only heard my part. 😩

    • @willowhofmann7409
      @willowhofmann7409 Před 2 lety +8

      Which makes this aaaalllll worth it.

    • @Mary1337
      @Mary1337 Před 2 lety +13

      "unfortunately"? They got a free concert!

  • @May-gy8ik
    @May-gy8ik Před rokem +32

    Kpop has a whole dark history from which a lot of people could be easily accused of a lot of crimes that go across de border of inhumanity. It's very crazy and the kpop fans that get mad when calling this out are the obsessed ones that also need help, this is clearly a red flag in the industry that many artists from the same have mentioned which left them with trauma for lifetimes. Thank you for mentioning it and bringing attention to it

    • @darthprodigal9401
      @darthprodigal9401 Před rokem +1

      Yeah instantly thought of kpop "training" and expectations the minute this episode started.

  • @olicityfan1150
    @olicityfan1150 Před 2 lety +6

    My mom was obsessed with New Kids on the Block as a teenager. She still hase this plastic baggie where she put her NKOTB trading cards, gum cassette containers things and newspaper clippings. She even wrote "Don't Touch" on the plastic bag in sharpie

  • @MrBallen
    @MrBallen Před 2 lety +899

    Bailey is awesome 🙌🙌🙌🙌

    • @EvilStrikesTrueCrimeChannel
      @EvilStrikesTrueCrimeChannel Před 2 lety +65

      You both are amazing!

    • @mistijohnson2121
      @mistijohnson2121 Před 2 lety +23

      Yaaas so are you man !!!!

    • @Diabella2022
      @Diabella2022 Před 2 lety +13

      Yea, guys, I agree!! You 2 r the best of the best 💪💪💪

    • @ariellevoorhies5856
      @ariellevoorhies5856 Před 2 lety +17

      So are you MrBallen! I can’t stop thinking of Wade from your video this week. 😬😣🤢🥴⚡️⚡️

    • @Redhead-hz1sm
      @Redhead-hz1sm Před 2 lety +19

      Heyyyyyyyy! Its 2 of my favorite content creators!!!🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤 I have so much love for both of you!

  • @meganmorris1521
    @meganmorris1521 Před 2 lety +204

    Lance Bass’ Mama was my teacher in middle school. We never really made a big deal of it. We went on a field trip and he met us there and it was so casual and so nice. We’re from Mississippi, and I remember my mother telling me when he came out, Mrs. Bass resigned because of all the hate she received about Lance. She started teaching again when i had her and I am so thankful she did!💕

    • @insanelittlesilk
      @insanelittlesilk Před 2 lety +14

      That’s such a sweet story! (Minus the hate she got for Lance coming out)

    • @Aedra101
      @Aedra101 Před 2 lety +5

      Why would she get hate over that?

    • @kellyfarrar6639
      @kellyfarrar6639 Před 2 lety

      @@Aedra101 because its Mississippi and its super homophobic

    • @meganmorris1521
      @meganmorris1521 Před 2 lety +15

      @@Aedra101 Unfortunately in the south a lot of things are frowned upon. This was a while back, and the south as a whole now is more accepting than they were about different things then. I hope it’s able to be even better as time goes on!

    • @isabellind1292
      @isabellind1292 Před rokem +5

      Well, his mother seems like such a nice person, just like her son. I thought he and the rest of those boy band members who came out during that time were all really nice, grounded young men after watching the Lou Pearlman documentary. His mother seems like the nicest, sweetest mom. I'm glad he's been successful. It broke my heart that Pearlman stiffed those poor, young men who worked so hard at performing.

  • @KayleyAnneF
    @KayleyAnneF Před 2 lety +30

    Bailey's younger fans won't fully understand this episode. It really is one for us older folk. . . . . I saw 2 days ago actually that Backstreet Boys are once again back. They're touring

    • @robinnicole4466
      @robinnicole4466 Před rokem +4

      They never left they've stayed touring and recording albums the entire time and never planned to qui5. Just took some years to focus on family lives ect but they never planned on giving up

  • @kadenced8818
    @kadenced8818 Před rokem +15

    I recently went to a Backstreet Boys concert and noticed how rough Nick looks. Now it totally makes sense. Nick went through a lot, along with the other members.

    • @fatesse3135
      @fatesse3135 Před rokem +1

      Nick has had it really bad, both from the BSB angle and also helping his younger brother (Aaron was also one of Lou's artists also, keep in mind) dealing with HIS trauma.

  • @justineharper3346
    @justineharper3346 Před 2 lety +137

    I went to a Comic Con a few years ago where the Backstreet Boys were. I’ve never seen so many 30 something women screaming like crazed teenagers (I was one of them btw 😂). It turned out to be on my 31st birthday, and I got birthday hugs from AJ, Howie, and NICK. I got covered in Nick Carter sweat on my birthday. My life is complete 😂

    • @BaByCaKeZ106
      @BaByCaKeZ106 Před 2 lety +2

      Yaaas after getting covered in Kevin and AJ sweat my life is complete! I know the feeling 😂😂😂🙌🙌

    • @cleanandgreenketo
      @cleanandgreenketo Před rokem

      Yes!!!!

  • @evygir
    @evygir Před 2 lety +88

    Thank you for mentioning Jonghyun! I've always been a fan of him! He changed some big aspects of the kpop world and is still loved today! Shinee just celebrated their 14 year anniversary and the fellow members always keep his memory alive! 💎💚

    • @ThisIsPodcastSpencer
      @ThisIsPodcastSpencer Před rokem +10

      I came into kpop during the 2nd gen wave, and I had never really been a fan of Shinee, but his death hit me so hard. The fact that he helped start the process of shedding light on the abuses in the industry is a blessing, but I hate the price he paid for it, not to mention the fact that it's still happening.

  • @justcallmegoth1279
    @justcallmegoth1279 Před rokem +9

    Bailey had me the minute she said she liked *NSYNC more than the Backstreet Boys I’m here for it as much as I love her before now I love her even more✨🤍

  • @savannas0322
    @savannas0322 Před 2 lety +13

    I love boy bands so much. NKOTB, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, One Direction, Jonas Brothers 😭❤️
    So sad that there's such a dark history behind them

  • @rachelhenson988
    @rachelhenson988 Před 2 lety +259

    I swear we have the same brain. You are such a blessing it’s amazing that you created a platform doing something you enjoyed and turn it into an informational platform.

  • @yurielcundangan9090
    @yurielcundangan9090 Před 2 lety +414

    Everyone agrees BAILEY Sarian made our day:

    • @wafashoole6011
      @wafashoole6011 Před 2 lety +1

      Please cover the story of Jawaher Hajji🥺🙏

  • @Jordan-hk5ck
    @Jordan-hk5ck Před 2 lety +449

    Idea: dark history of witches: the demonization of women and feminism

  • @ryanlowry7189
    @ryanlowry7189 Před rokem +5

    For some reason I would just like to a second appreciate the way Bailey pronounced the t in skyrocketed at a little after 6:05. Oddly I'm super here for it hahaha

  • @emel-7928
    @emel-7928 Před 2 lety +264

    It gets even darker.
    We all know the story of Lyle and Eric Menendez. The two brothers who killed their parents and are now serving life in jail. Well, their father José Menendez was the CEO of Sony Music at the same time Menudo was formed.
    You can already guess where this is going. José abused his sons and the boys from Menudo. Till this day, former band members including Ricky Martin refuse to talk about José Menendez.
    Edit to say: Menudo is coming out with a documentary on HBO Max discussing all the abuse they went through. Its very sad and disturbing but a real eye opener to what actually happens behind the scenes.

  • @biancafeaulait
    @biancafeaulait Před 2 lety +237

    SHINee is pronounced as "shiny", and thank you so much for talking briefly about Jonghyun. He was my bias and was completely devastated in the weeks that followed when he decided to leave us. Today's KPop industry is leaps and bounds better than before. But the fans are the ones getting more and more toxic, it seems. But that may just be because of social media.

    • @mommyanew
      @mommyanew Před 2 lety +8

      I was going to say the same thing about the pronunciation. I loved Jonghyun too. I will cry about him because it’s sad to see. They are all talented and beautiful souls but you can also see the hurt they feel.

    • @sailors129
      @sailors129 Před 2 lety +10

      So glad she brought up Jonghyun because I think that was the turning point for the industry to be more mindful of their groups. Of course the industry still needs work, but I'm glad it has changed since then. Now SHINee has more input on their work than the company does in their recent contract. So proud of them and I know Jonghyun would be too. 😊💎💎💎💎💎

    • @torimani
      @torimani Před 2 lety +3

      I wanted to mention the pronunciation too lol, but yeah SHINee was one of the first Kpop bands I ever got into, so I was so sad when he passed :( the industry is so cruel.

    • @pb9927
      @pb9927 Před 2 lety +1

      he was my bias too. I had posters up of him on my walls that I just stared at after his passing. It's still so crazy to think about

    • @cherieschilli8299
      @cherieschilli8299 Před rokem

      After watching this, I came looking for someone to correct her. I'm glad she brought this up.❤❤❤

  • @djblushto
    @djblushto Před rokem +4

    Not only have I just recently discovered your channel (and fell in love), BUT you're an NSYNC/JC GIRL!? Pffffft girl just when I thought you couldn't get any cooler. That sealed the deal. Respect.

  • @hamiltonv1
    @hamiltonv1 Před 2 lety +131

    You know Backstreet Boys are STILL TOURING and selling out venues today, right?
    Their second run of the DNA tour is happening this year! Two more months, I can’t wait! 🧬

    • @marilishr5978
      @marilishr5978 Před 2 lety +2

      They’re not coming to my area and if I could I wouldn’t mind airfare and hotel plus the tickets to see them 😅

    • @AarionnaNightRose
      @AarionnaNightRose Před 2 lety +3

      NKOTB is still touring also

    • @Choncho858
      @Choncho858 Před 2 lety +4

      yes!!!!!!! I saw them last week. backstreet fan

    • @nikkijoice1992
      @nikkijoice1992 Před rokem +2

      im seeing them in august!!!! haha

    • @aliciarice9617
      @aliciarice9617 Před rokem +5

      They are still the highest selling boy band!!

  • @reganstandlick7520
    @reganstandlick7520 Před 2 lety +196

    I feel like you should do a part 2 to include other boy bands such as Jonas Brothers, Big Time Rush, One Direction.

  • @specialkali
    @specialkali Před 2 lety +262

    Bailey: *I don’t understand boyband obsessions*
    Also Bailey: *gushes over boys from the 90s*

  • @Heather-qk3hk
    @Heather-qk3hk Před 2 lety +5

    Bailey, you should do a Dark History on the Free Masons. So much mystery and secrets surrounding them!

  • @bethliradel6314
    @bethliradel6314 Před 2 lety +11

    Dark History of Makeup!!! That would be a crazy rabbit hole!

  • @emamie7295
    @emamie7295 Před 2 lety +101

    The Jackson 5 didn’t really fall apart after Jermaine’s departure. The other boys went to epic records and renamed themselves “The Jacksons” and recorded/performed many hit songs! 😊 Michael still worked with his brothers for a while after starting his solo career.

  • @Karharlan
    @Karharlan Před 2 lety +12

    Do you guys remember the episode of the fairly odd parents where Vicky holds Chip Skylark hostage and tries to marriage him because he’s rich. Then he tells her she’s broke and the record company pays for everything

  • @andeechristian9436
    @andeechristian9436 Před rokem +9

    A pre-teen friend and I once road along with my mom to pick up an older brother at a local resort, and all of a sudden this GIANT BUS pulls up behind us. My mom all calm didn't move the car, but my friend and I quickly figured it out. My mom says, "Oh must be those backside boys." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @kennedyfollett3965
    @kennedyfollett3965 Před 2 lety +32

    I think I discovered Bailey in the funniest way.. back in 2019 on an online college discussion board we had to introduce ourselves. I said I loved true crime and crime docs.. one girl recommended Bailey Sarian on CZcams in her reply to me. I’ve been here ever since, 3 years strong!

  • @setodd2098
    @setodd2098 Před 2 lety +183

    Listing off all their roles then saying "Chris Kirpatrick was there. " just about choked on my food!

    • @brittanytanner2770
      @brittanytanner2770 Před 2 lety +4

      I came here to say this. I snorted when she said that.

    • @naivenostalgia
      @naivenostalgia Před 2 lety +5

      Before this video, I honestly don't know the last time I laughed **for real** for real, but that comment & his photo on the screen... I fxcking lost it.😂

    • @jaileenfeliciano7502
      @jaileenfeliciano7502 Před 2 lety +2

      😂😂

    • @Trishoc-vf2dw
      @Trishoc-vf2dw Před 2 lety +4

      Without Chris there would no *NSYNC. He formed the group. Yup Chris fan and proud of it.

  • @smmootoo18
    @smmootoo18 Před rokem +5

    Thank you for talking about this topic. And about Jonghyun. ♡

  • @abyga.ilreade
    @abyga.ilreade Před 2 lety +24

    kinda surprised that simon cowell was left out of this but i guess that just proves that he’s far better at exploitation than the gp is used to seeing

  • @nourelbasyouny7996
    @nourelbasyouny7996 Před 2 lety +118

    honestly, I've been a kpop fan for quite some time and the dark side of it is horrific. Everything from how companies starve and abuse their trainees, the way obsessive fans are encouraged to mistreat the idols cause its profitable, the amount of control the companies have over the lives of the idols, etc is all just so horrific and sad to see. It itself could also become a whole dark history episode even though it's not really history cause it still happens.

  • @aleishataylor973
    @aleishataylor973 Před 2 lety +275

    I wonder if Disney has enough questionable goings-on to fill a whole episode of Dark History 🤔

    • @lisabarber3010
      @lisabarber3010 Před 2 lety +19

      I was thinking the same thing! A Dark History of Disney would be very interesting. x

    • @sailorarwen6101
      @sailorarwen6101 Před 2 lety +13

      There’s no question.

    • @adriannagamble2718
      @adriannagamble2718 Před 2 lety +27

      honestly, i feel like there’s enough to make multiple videos about disneys questionable behaviir

    • @lisabarber3010
      @lisabarber3010 Před 2 lety +8

      @@adriannagamble2718 agreed. Lots and lots of shifty stuff going on there! x

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 Před 2 lety +5

      Only one?

  • @melisamongoose
    @melisamongoose Před rokem +5

    I was obsessed with Nsync as a kid and I remember reading about Lou Perlman. Even as a kid I got a weird vibe about him and I just knew he was bad news somehow.

  • @aylabelle3036
    @aylabelle3036 Před 2 lety +5

    Could you do an episode on the Wedding Industry or the Funeral Industry? I'm sure there's lots of juicy stuff there that would make for a great episode.

  • @rosed3535
    @rosed3535 Před 2 lety +113

    i’m surprised you haven’t talked about one direction? they’re known for being badly mistreated by management

    • @denisajuknaite7130
      @denisajuknaite7130 Před 2 lety +8

      i thought the same thing hahah

    • @mashsharatrashid6564
      @mashsharatrashid6564 Před 2 lety +7

      Came here to comment literally that

    • @ILikeTheIvy
      @ILikeTheIvy Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah definitely needed them included. They were huge and still are even tho they broke up, the management were shady as were their treatment by media and fans etc...

  • @ashleymorris3706
    @ashleymorris3706 Před 2 lety +49

    Bailey out here making sure I never get bored during chore time. She's the only reason I don't mind cleaning this house. I get so many chores done listening to her. And I learn at the same time. Love you girl! ❤

  • @snakechaarmer
    @snakechaarmer Před 2 lety +10

    You could honestly do an entire part two to this in regards to all of the horrible things that happen to the members of the groups in South Korea. On occasion. It's not pretty, and it makes my heart break for the artists involved on a daily basis. I try to support them in any way I can. 💔💜

  • @CharlotteMartin970
    @CharlotteMartin970 Před 2 lety +3

    I don’t mind the ads I know it helps you be able
    To do the deep research these episodes need!!! And I actually love the products and services you work with 💕💕💕💕
    Love you Bailey !!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ariellevoorhies5856
    @ariellevoorhies5856 Před 2 lety +79

    Hey bestie. I’m a house cleaner and I religiously wait for you each week to teach me some not so boring history while I clean the cobwebs from elder’s closets. Thank you!!

  • @Steveve4123
    @Steveve4123 Před 2 lety +168

    YES WHERE ARE THE PARENTSSSSSSSS. I think about this all the time when I hear stories of child actors and singers who were just completely taken advantage of. Why are the parents just absent and letting this happen all the time?? It blows my mind.

    • @hleebeg
      @hleebeg Před 2 lety +31

      of course it's not always the case but a lot of the time the parents are abusive to an extent as well. Relying on their kids money and making them work, not advocating for them when they are working more than they should. using their kids like a commodity. a great example of this is Jannette McCurdy or even Britney Spears. you can't be there constantly with your kids but you need to have a relationship where they can tell you when things are going on or something doesn't seem right.

    • @gigi9301
      @gigi9301 Před 2 lety +9

      Agreed! If you've ever watched the whole Michael Jackson thing, it's appalling that all the parents just let their young boys stay with MJ in his huge resort without any supervision. Kind of like pimping out their kids.

    • @hamiltonv1
      @hamiltonv1 Před 2 lety +6

      @@gigi9301 Tell me you haven’t read the court documents on the Michael Jackson trial without telling me you haven’t read the court docs on the MJ trial. 🥴

    • @rachelmclachlan7776
      @rachelmclachlan7776 Před 2 lety +3

      Most of the time, they either don't care what's happening to their children, or like you mentioned, they're oblivious to what's going on behind closed doors.

    • @Lyndeestar
      @Lyndeestar Před 2 lety +2

      Most of the guys of Nsync lived with Justin's Mom. And she she helped put together 1 of the girl groups. Everyone buys into it.

  • @butterflygirlbeauty
    @butterflygirlbeauty Před rokem +15

    I was a huge NKOTB fan as a kid. I was in love with Joey Mcintyre lol He was the youngest one but I also was only 11-14 yrs old lol

  • @abbasturd
    @abbasturd Před rokem +8

    I learned about Lou Pearlman in my Personal finance class in high school. We watched a whole documentary of all of his terrible deeds.

    • @bradleyburke1323
      @bradleyburke1323 Před rokem

      That’s really interesting. I’d like to watch if you could by chance find a link?

    • @slayter9023
      @slayter9023 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@bradleyburke1323 do you still want it?

    • @bradleyburke1323
      @bradleyburke1323 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yes please!

  • @bdizzle5359
    @bdizzle5359 Před 2 lety +49

    I used to have a huge crush on Ricky Martin. My 12 year old self had posters of him all over my room. When he came out, I was so heartbroken. I cried 🤣 and started my emo phase. He still has a special place in my heart.

    • @adeleennis2255
      @adeleennis2255 Před 2 lety +2

      I’m the same age as Ricky Martin. I lived for Saturdays when Menudo would play between cartoons and Action News for Kids. I had friends who loved Sergio. I didn’t get it. Ricky was where it was at.

    • @ashleighbadrock3085
      @ashleighbadrock3085 Před 2 lety +2

      Ricky Martin sending you into your emo stage 🤣🤣🤣 that has absolutely buckled me!!

  • @ravenmcmillan2926
    @ravenmcmillan2926 Před 2 lety +75

    Lisa “Left Eye” Lopez breaks down the whole money pyramid down on her documentary

    • @danysanerd2383
      @danysanerd2383 Před 2 lety +6

      I looked it up and it's called "the last days of 'left eye'" 😭😭😭

    • @falynangel6594
      @falynangel6594 Před 2 lety +9

      That documentary Blew My mind. She was so ahead of her time the way she stripped down her life and spiritually tapped in.

  • @tbranch74
    @tbranch74 Před 2 lety +13

    Bailey Sarian is just a badass lady.
    Your realness comes through the screen.
    I just love everything about your energy, face, voice and candor.

  • @angieperez3864
    @angieperez3864 Před rokem +5

    I watched this hoping you'd mention Menudo and you did! Boy band legends! Girls would literally faint at their concerts lol and unfortunately so much abuse and darkness going on too. 💔 🇵🇷

  • @meakahana404
    @meakahana404 Před 2 lety +35

    as a millennial, this makes my heart sad cuz I, honestly, didnt know about half of this. but hearing you tell me softened the blow to my BSB heart. I love your videos, girl!

  • @umokay5516
    @umokay5516 Před 2 lety +360

    I’ll never understand how on earth Michael Jackson’s parents got custody of his kids after he died, after we all saw how severely they messed up Michael and his siblings

    • @jwex93
      @jwex93 Před 2 lety +47

      Well his parents were separated..his mother had full custody not his dad

    • @ajareid9306
      @ajareid9306 Před 2 lety +2

      Because he isn’t died faked because want to save his kids and family and there a CZcams channel about called pearl jr

    • @tbranch74
      @tbranch74 Před 2 lety +37

      @@ajareid9306 what?
      Nah.
      He is "dead". Present tense.
      He "died" in 2009
      Please don't spread conspiracy theories bc you saw a CZcams video.

    • @ajareid9306
      @ajareid9306 Před 2 lety +4

      @@tbranch74 They misspelled his middle name on his death certificate look it up his name is actually Joe Jackson not Joseph and the kicker is all of the family that’s the men’s side of the family all have the same middle name that’s their stage name Joseph

    • @umokay5516
      @umokay5516 Před 2 lety +11

      @@jwex93 and?? Was she not just as complicit in her kids’ abuse?

  • @DakotahMiskus
    @DakotahMiskus Před rokem +3

    She said Gary and I knew exactly who she was gonna talk about. I grew up in North West Indiana so we all Learn about the Jackson’s.

  • @stellairizarry1652
    @stellairizarry1652 Před 2 lety +2

    Hola everyone!! from Puerto Rico here!!! We still sing songs from Menudo. (look up the song: subete a mi moto)It was a huge hit. Also, in PR we are aware of what the memebers went through during their time in the band. There is more stories behind Menudo. Later in the 90's another boy band was created but not as popular as them. Thank you Bailey for sharing their story . 🌺✨

  • @brandeyray3339
    @brandeyray3339 Před 2 lety +210

    Fun fact!: did you know the song “bye bye bye” was about papa lou going to prison! 😂Look it up

    • @tomfoolery9118
      @tomfoolery9118 Před 2 lety +7

      Didn't say anything about prison, just about their relationship and leaving lou.. where did you see this? Haha.

    • @str8eye
      @str8eye Před 2 lety +2

      Never new, learn sumthn new everyday 🤣🤣🤣🤣 🙏🇺🇦

    • @klash813
      @klash813 Před 2 lety +3

      ​@@tomfoolery9118you're correct. If you haven't watched the special that Lance Bass made about how BSB and N'Sync came to be, I highly recommend it. Also, the Backstreet Boys did make a documentary type movie called "Show Em What You're Made Of" It was filmed during the time that the guys were writing/recording their album of the same name.

    • @HaleyMary
      @HaleyMary Před 2 lety +2

      Never knew that! I had assumed that one of the members of NSYNC had written about an ex girlfriend. Learn something new every day.

  • @m99yfr
    @m99yfr Před 2 lety +44

    I love the Jackson 5, anyone else? (Their story was so sad)

    • @MooMooFutch
      @MooMooFutch Před 2 lety +2

      I knew Michael personally up until his death.

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 Před 2 lety +2

      Grew up with them! As in their music

  • @ntokozosibulelomdladla9225

    As a 2000 baby i don't understand a boyband historical video that doesn't include One Direction😂😂 not even a mention??😭
    Love you Bailey

  • @daniellewright2773
    @daniellewright2773 Před 2 lety +2

    Wow another amazing episode Bailey thank you and thanks for your team as well!!

  • @lillylopez5782
    @lillylopez5782 Před 2 lety +126

    For next Thursday could you dive into the world of K-pop??? There’s so much hidden history in there that’s so dark and disgusting… and I think you’ll really like it!!! 😙

  • @LadyCaramel33
    @LadyCaramel33 Před 2 lety +1

    I am so glad that you didn’t leave out New Edition.

  • @tomleal2899
    @tomleal2899 Před 2 lety +4

    Love you Bailey! Thank you for being you!

  • @reetae
    @reetae Před 2 lety +75

    The kpop group SHINee you mentioned when talking about jonghyun is pronounced like "Shiny". ❤️

  • @mariagariepy1854
    @mariagariepy1854 Před 2 lety +49

    I feel like kpop could have its own episode thats a whole saga

  • @aram1764
    @aram1764 Před 2 lety +12

    Yes, there’s someone looking at you from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 😉 thank you so much for your videos Bailey I have learned a lot about cases and history with you love ya 😊

  • @revinaque1342
    @revinaque1342 Před 2 lety +6

    12 year old me feels betrayed that BSB and N*Sync were founded by the same person 😅 We used to have fights in middle school over which band was better!
    It's tragic to discover how badly they were exploited. The members are older than me, so I felt like they were so grown up, but they were just kids at the time 😔

  • @hunyodaisynueve
    @hunyodaisynueve Před 2 lety +16

    35:06 "It's gonna be meeeiiii" that cracked me up! I love Bailey so much. lol.

  • @kristyp2585
    @kristyp2585 Před 2 lety +37

    I'm old, so New Kids on the Block was my first concert as a 12 year old. I was totally obsessed and had everything from the Jordon Knight doll to a sheet set and everything in between. The insanity lasted a couple of years. Then it happened again years later with my little sister and the Backstreet Boys. My poor mom lol

    • @danysanerd2383
      @danysanerd2383 Před 2 lety +4

      The sheets! The best part was their faces on the pillowcase! I'd kiss Marky Mark to sleep 🤣

    • @kristyp2585
      @kristyp2585 Před 2 lety

      @@danysanerd2383 lol Yes!!

  • @PurpleWillowArts
    @PurpleWillowArts Před rokem +2

    I’m really late to watching this but this is too funny. I just realized I am wearing an *NSYNC shirt right now…. The pic you showed of them. Lol! I’ve been into New Kids, *NSYNC, Backstreet Boys and O Town (very briefly). I’m in my 40s and I still go to the New Kids shows!!!!

  • @MissyJeanTaylor
    @MissyJeanTaylor Před rokem +5

    Totally geeking out with your intro.. N'SYNC for liiiiifeee!
    I totally bought tix for O-Town's online Valentine's Day concert in 2021! No Ashley though :(

  • @LotsofLisa
    @LotsofLisa Před 2 lety +59

    “… I had a secret love affair with TRL, BETCH!…” gave me the strength I needed to walk into this dentist office.

  • @miamckenzie6861
    @miamckenzie6861 Před 2 lety +52

    Bailey…you in danger girl. 😆

  • @andromedaplease
    @andromedaplease Před rokem +5

    I like the question “How does it start?” it starts when u wanna know what their name is, then your watching all their videos. Before watching all of their videos - ie music videos, interviews, and performances. 90s didn’t have CZcams so , I guess there was more opportunities to meet the groups.
    Seeing it from the start till now and how it translates to bb practices even now is really interesting. From the first Quartets to The Beatles, Back Street Boys then One Direction, and BTS is a really cool thought. And that’s just boy groups I wonder if there can be a version with just the girls.

  • @yourstrulyk3
    @yourstrulyk3 Před rokem +4

    With the passing of Aaron carter, could you maybe do a dark history of tragic child stars? He was exploited by the industry as well as his family. It’s so sad how people treated him not knowing his story.

    • @stacitowery3475
      @stacitowery3475 Před rokem

      Aaron destroyed himself while his subscribers watched and financed his demise.

  • @crystalrosemartinez8115
    @crystalrosemartinez8115 Před 2 lety +51

    TVXQ! Is a kpop group that will break your heart. They fought legally against SM. And also side note I love how Bailey had to defend herself against kpop fans, tbh they can get crazy scary

  • @littleelozzaaa545
    @littleelozzaaa545 Před 2 lety +58

    A Reminder for everyone to go support independent bands !!!!
    It’s the only way to make a change to the music industry. I’m a music photographer and some of the INCREDIBLE bands i tour with quit because they don’t make enough to live and day jobs take over, but with the reach of Social media like TikTok its starting to change !! Support musicians, look for bands using hashtags or spotifiy’s “similar too” under your favourite artists profile ! 🥰

  • @stefanibultena8854
    @stefanibultena8854 Před 2 lety +5

    I literally have been saving this episode to watch with my 11 year old cause she needs to understand the hype of the boy band 🤣 Bailey, keep speaking to my stuck in the 90s soul!

  • @ghostdogss
    @ghostdogss Před rokem +9

    i used to be a kpop stan around 2010-2013(ish) and am now a kpop stan since 2020 and the conditions have improved sooo much for the groups since then. they’re treated alot better (although many go through really tough training, contracts etc) which is really nice to see. ofcourse, there are still bad sides but not as bad as it used to be.

  • @cloudsss35
    @cloudsss35 Před 2 lety +51

    This is so true! As a gen z, I was and am a One Direction fan (directioner) growing up (I feel like everyone should have that fangirl phase growing up:) and I really loved it) and the torture they went through with the toxic management, the overworked schedules, the toxic continous criticism, the comparisons, the need to fit in with the the stereotypes set... were endless. One of the many causes why boy bands, once the members become older and gain control (or more like realise the right they have to their own control) break up and end up pursuing solo careers.

    • @danamardell1209
      @danamardell1209 Před rokem +3

      Recently learning about body systems and learning that blood flows in one direction through the heart...made me wonder if that's the reasoning behind their name...if so? Pretty clever

  • @cutelystar
    @cutelystar Před 2 lety +23

    I've been following the Backstreet Boys since 97. I've met them a few times too now that I can afford it, really sweet guys. Aside from that, I remember watching the news stories on all the coverage on Lou. It's heartbreaking, it was discussed in their documentary, Show'em What We're Made Of. Thanks for covering this and loved the occasional mention of the BSB song titles.

    • @BaByCaKeZ106
      @BaByCaKeZ106 Před 2 lety +2

      Same!!!

    • @dominiquechristine
      @dominiquechristine Před rokem +1

      I remember that documentary. They all went back to the house Lou bought that house the Backstreet Boys back in the beginning. I remember this scene because Nick Carter REFUSED to go inside the house with the rest of the guys. I remember thinking something really bad must have happened to him there, little did I know how right I was.

  • @alexslavich4159
    @alexslavich4159 Před 2 lety +19

    You should cover Magdalene laundries for “fallen women”!! I’d love to hear more about it from you and your team

    • @cheeky6397
      @cheeky6397 Před 2 lety +1

      Email it in please. They made a film & used this huge old building in Dumfries Scotland. Many of the Irish lassys got sent to Scotland. Sick what those women & girls went through. Some stayed for life, prisoners. All in the name of religeon & shame.

  • @user-427Serenta
    @user-427Serenta Před rokem +4

    I want to make your AD BREAKS (Backstreet Boys) song bit my ring tone everytime I get an 800 number phone call lol. That was gold and beautiful 🤩

  • @nicky1088
    @nicky1088 Před 2 lety +14

    Even sadder when you realize Nick was 13 when he joined the group. Amazing he turned out the way he has and not the complete opposite direction.

  • @kittykatmt
    @kittykatmt Před 2 lety +49

    This is literally what i needed right now. I had a panic attack while at work and my brain is just off. Now, i'm on my lunch break and your video is making me feel better. Thank you for this ❤️

    • @sandraboudreau1551
      @sandraboudreau1551 Před 2 lety

      She is so amazing and I too feel much calmer after one of her episodes. (Despite the content)

  • @alexisgilbert120
    @alexisgilbert120 Před 2 lety +5

    I still listen to all the 80’s and 90’s boy ands I used to listen to growing up. I remember when I was little one of my favorite birthday presents I got was the *NSYNC Barbie that came with an *NSYNC CD. So sad to hear what they all went through and how exploited they all were.

  • @KissyAdair
    @KissyAdair Před rokem +4

    I remember buying singles at Sam Goody back in the day!
    NSYNC and New Kids for LIFE!!!

  • @twannifufu
    @twannifufu Před 2 lety +17

    Love the light shade at Chris Kirkpatrick.
    Say what you want, the impact of the Jackson family on the US and world entertainment stage, from the Jackson 5 to Michael as a solo artist to youngest Janet, cannot be underestimated and undervalued. I’m so glad Bailey highlighted that.

  • @amyofthewood2578
    @amyofthewood2578 Před 2 lety +51

    Bailey Sarian adapting lyrics and singing all the boy band hits of my youth is just the content I needed today 🤌