Silence=Death: The Dark History of the AIDs Epidemic
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- Hi friends, happy Thursday!
Welcome to the Dark History podcast. The AIDs epidemic. Yeah we’ve all pretty much heard of it. We've heard the horror stories, seen the ads, seen the fundraisers, and even know of lots of people who have it. But how much do we truly know about it? Today we are going to dive deep and really talk about the very heavy and very dark history of the AIDs epidemic.
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Chapters:
INTRO 00:00
THE ORIGIN OF AIDS 03:37
RONNIE RAYGUN DOES NOTHING 13:56
RONNIE RAYGUN DOES SOMETHING 25:25
RYAN WHITE 29:08
KATRINA HASLIP 35:40
ACT UP FIGHTS RISING DRUG COSTS 40:31
SOMETHING EVEN MORE REVOLUTIONARY 46:17
GAME CHANGERS IN AIDS ACTIVISM 51:45
AIDS TODAY 57:29
CONCLUSION 01:00:28
Additional Resources: www.gmhc.org/
www.amfar.org/
www.eltonjohnaidsfoundation.o...
www.hiv.gov/federal-response/...
www.hrc.org/resources/hiv-aids
Dark History is an Audioboom Original.
This podcast is Executive Produced by:
Bailey Sarian, Kim Jacobs, Dunia McNeily from 3arts, Ed SImpson, and Claire Turner From Wheelhouse DNA
Producer: Lexxi Kiven
Research provided by: Romona Kivett
Writers: Jed Bookout, Joey Scavuzzo, and Kim Yaged
I'm your host -- Bailey Sarian
Special thank you to Historical Consultant Walt Odets
Video Director: Trent Barboza and Eric Abell
Shot By: Tafadzwa Nemarundwe
Edited by: Jim Luci
Production Management: Meredith Ewinger - Zábava
If Bailey was my college professor I would never skip a class.
I agree
Hi other Holly 😄👋 I agree 💯 %
For sure!!
Hello
Seriously!!!
Both my uncles died from aids in the early 90s. I got picked on in elementary and nobody wanted to touch me worried they'd get aids... When we moved from New York to start over in a new state it was sad because I was told from family to never mention my uncles that I missed dearly. My mother told me it was for my protection. Learning to grieve like that was honestly so hard!
I am so very sorry for the losses of your Uncles.
So sorry that happened to you and your loss.💜
I’m sorry for the loss of your uncles. I’m glad you’re now comfortable sharing online what happened. Sending you hugs and strength.
I cannot imagine how painful that must have been (and still is, I'm sure). Thank you for sharing.
I know a lot of people who had Aids and they family said they had cancer my uncle died with it but we never lied about his death because he taught us about the disease and I heard it was and herbal cure for it and the government couldn’t profit off of it
I used to work with a woman who had aids. She asked me to keep it secret so I did of course. But her sister told the place one day and they fired her saying that the dishwasher might catch it. She and I were the only waitstaff there. When they told me they fired her, I took off my apron and quit. This was outragious! They all yelled at me and mocked me as I left. Karma is fickle though. Within 6 months they had such bad reviews about the new wait staff that they ended up having to shut down.
AIDS is contacted through blood so if she cut herself and others contracted it..... I'm sorry all that happened but safety, ya know.
Did she sue????
@@Chick87rh why would she sue?
@@sanicakes2424 for discrimination and harassment
@@ezpeasy11107 I'd counter-sue if i was the owner of the restaurant. Safety guidelines were at risk and the restaurant could of been shut down
My uncle Peter died this past year of AIDS. He was 53 years old and was diagnosed in his 20s. For 30 years he lived w this.. I loved him dearly & miss him everyday. It was like we always knew he would inevitably pass..we just didn't think it would be so soon. I'm thankful that he's at peace now.
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My father was the director of maintenance at a care home for people w AIDS. And this was back in the mid/late 90s. And since this was a care home, it essentially became the last place for those dying of AIDS.
And my dad would make it a point to have myself and 2 older brothers go in & visit w some of the residents. Especially those who’s family/friends or “loved ones” basically put em in that care home & forgot about em. Us kids would read them stories, play cards, one of my brothers learned how to play chess from a mid 30yo man who was truly the sweetest, smartest & most compassionate human I ever met…. Sadly his family basically dumped him there & forgot about him. Well except to pay the bill bc they definitely didn’t want him home. and they made it known to him that they didn’t want him around.
It’s sad. My father worked there for about 6yrs before it became extremely difficult for him emotionally. But he still remembers those years and those residents fondly. As do I.
You have an amazing father!
What a wonderful man your father was to do this difficult job ❤️
In the 80s, my mom visited her boyfriend's sister in the hospital. She was on her deathbed with AIDS but no one would visit her because they all thought it could be spread via contact. She died shortly after but she was so thankful that my mom visited her and knew that it couldn't be spread that way.
Wow, what a story to know. They wouldn't let me visit my uncle on his death bed with it in 94. I really wanted to and didn't understand why they wouldn't let me. My mom says its because my uncle didn't want us kids to see him like that, which I'm sure is the reason. The rest of the family visited him as often as possible though. He was really out of it from the stories I was told from all the meds he was on even seeing things and the room smelled bad from all the bed sores. He was so bad. I still miss him every day of my life. They never had a funeral.
People forget how old Fauchi was involved back then too. Mandating only AZT and saying things like "there is *no evidence* to (suggest that this is airborne) however *I think that* people should keep a distance" the same man who wrote about creating a vc that would supercede "all religion and ethics".
@@malumachado4561 Yes! Fauci!!!
My cousin visited in the 80's my mom threw out the cup he drank from! Because he said he had AIDS.
Princess Diana showed it was safe to hug and be around aids patients.
Pictures around the world of her shaking hands, hugging aids patients.
Used to visit them often, very close to some people.
Bless her lady only wanted to love people and help the world.
Film "and the band played on" is amazing informative re some big names now re covid.
I'm a straight cis gendered woman and I was diagnosed HIV+ IN 1994. I was a member of the board of directors as a client representative of our local AIDS support organization.
Thank you for this episode. 28 years and going strong.
14 years & my kiddo didn't get it!
You're a woman, not cis. There are only biological women.
I'm glad you're still here, thank you for continuing to speak for those who can't
What does cisgendered woman even mean what is wrong with people today and having 10 different genders you're either born male female or in very rare cases a hermaphrodite that's it people sorry to burst your bubbles
You are an amazing inspirational warrior of invisible illnesses! I live with Lupus and 4 other autoimmune diseases including a very rare blood disease that turns my white blood cells against my red blood cells causing massive blood clots throughout my body. Never a cure and daily treatments for the rest of my life. I’m able to live my life in a positive way and found daily strength because of women like you that live with an intense disease with lifetime of daily treatment but never giving up and live an incredible life! Thank you for your strength and for being an an inspirational person that has me saying “if they can flourish and live a positive life, then do can I!” So thank you 🙏 🙌☺️
Bailey you should consider releasing a version of this that can be shown in public schools (just editing out any cussing). This may be the best explanation of the situation I’ve ever encountered and I would love to show it to my students.
Maybe best from people who lived through it at the time. This is quite “ looking back.” Living through it gives a perspective that can’t really be replicated. I hope many living through that time, in the middle of it all from all sides, have recorded their experiences somehow.
I saw a great documentary about the airline worker who was dubbed “ patient O”( who was mis-identified and not a patient zero). It includes many first hand accounts on many aspects.
@@CAGChannel1 Gaetan Dugas, a Quebecois who used to be known as "the prettiest one"....
Absolutely
@@CAGChannel1you have “documented” a patient O not a patient Zero 0 .
@@thatjayne O actually stood for a location , not zero, and everyone assumed it meant patient zero, but the researcher just used a letter to distinguish between the west coast “ line” of the disease and the east coast one. It’s fascinating; the original researcher didn’t even know that other scientists, etc. were interpreting this location marker as a zero.
My friend's uncle was a nurse in NYC when the AIDS epidemic came full force. He still has severe PTSD from the mass casualties he saw during that time.
Suggest psychedelics to him.
I'm so sorry 😔
I lived thru that time it was awful. The nurses dealing with covid are going to deal with PTSD as well.
I can only imagine! It must have been absolutely traumatizing work.
Early days of AIDS was frigging horrible
Ryan White was banned from school in Kokomo, IN. However, the city of Cicero, IN welcomed him and his mother. They moved there and that is where he went to school before he passed away. I lived in IN at the time and remember it all very well.
I remember it too and it broke my heart that this innocent young boy already dealing with a health issue....and could have lived with it, died because of a tainted blood supply. It should never have happened. Sickened me that he was then ostracized once infected, which wasn't his fault. Destroyed his childhood and not long after, killed him. 😢
Thank you for sharing that he was allowed into a different school so that those unfamiliar with what happened to him, know that he was able to go back to school. I hope he achieved some happiness while there and was able to make some friends.
I grew up in Indiana and his cousin was my best friend at the time, I remember people picking on her just for being related to him. It was sad to watch as her friend
I remember that being in the news
The movie, “And the Band Played On” is a great movie about the AIDS epidemic. It is maddening to watch, but true. Thanks, Bailey. You rock.
The Normal Heart, will break your heart. As will It's a Sin, Colin especially
Yes film "and the band played on" is amazing informative heartbreakingly honest about the science and the activists.
As well as the shenanigans the gov and the scientists got up to. How activist actions changed things.
I.just recommended this lol
You should talk about the fentanyl issue. ☺️ I’d love to see the dark history of that one since it’s a BIG issue today. Love u bay!
Then the Democrat party would have to admit they were in the wrong not going to happen anytime soon.
I agree!! I’d like to see a video on this. Such a huge issue.
@@LKCLifer lol what? Fentanyl became big problem around 2016/17...wonder what democratic president was around then? So much for personal responsibility
YES!!
I am a recovering fentanyl addict and boiii let me tell you idk how the F$&@ing F$&@itty f$&@ I got over that. 😔 I’ve been wanting to start a CZcams channel about my revmcovey from young addiction to hon Lee as Ed’s to. Everything till now ! Be safe everyone that stuff almost killed me 3 times
The best part of Bailey being my dark history professor, she never assigns homework
but if she did, we would probably all do the homework ahahha
But I always go away and do some.
She'd probably make us draw a picture of what we just learned.
@@kellynn739 : yeah! If she knew you are the best artist to draw the faces accurately and no imaginary images... Lol!!
For the networking guy, she's given links to put up like Michael Schofield did in "Prison Break"... Except, I hope this fella does not rescue prisoners and be in trouble, like Michael did because his secret was found... Note: swear to secrecy would fetch more marks... Lol!!
Then one has to maintain attendance to find those information that she cannot find identity of the person (she does mention that she cannot find the right image in some places)... Collecting such information can be a work that leads to PhD research... Lol!!
In PhD, the doctor/professor works with the students... It gains more knowledge to the professor and students at the same time... Team work!! This is why people with more knowledge work in silence and are not proud and mostly humble in my opinion...
@@kellynn739 lol dark history Pictionary maybe? Bailey should do a live
My uncle died from AIDS in the early 90's. He died alone in an insane asylum where they put him because they had no idea how to treat him but wanted him to be removed from the general public. My heart goes out to everyone who suffered during the initial panic of this. Humans can do such cruel things when theyre scared.
Why not a hospital?
I'm so sorry he was put through that.
@@michealhenry3132 because hospitals didn't want Aides patients for fear they would infect everyone. They would treat you wearing hazmat like suits.
Just like letting the elderly with dementia die alone during covid lockdowns. Being a nurse and seeing how scared these people were is heartbreaking. They thought family just left them and had no idea why they were there. I’m so sorry you uncle passed that way. I couldn’t imagine being that scared and lost.
I worked at a psych nursing facility once and had quite a few patients with aids. Sad they had to live their remaining years there.
My mother had it and died from it Thank you for bringing awareness without judging 😇
I worked in the theater from 1985 to 1994 in the Northeast. I saw this disease up close and it was so tragic. I knew many talented, amazing men who were lost to this disease, lived in fear of this or were treated terribly because of the stigma and homophobia. Great job explaing with this one, as always, Bailey. You brought me back and I can see the faces of those wonderful men. ❤❤
My uncle died from AIDS in 1993. He was 28 years old, and it just breaks my heart that it can now be managed🥺
My mother died from AIDS in 93 as well. She was 43.
I’m so sorry about the loss of your uncle. It “breaks your heart that it can now be managed?” I think it’s amazing that it can be managed.
@@lisapassarella4603 as in, it is now manageable and we know how to treat it and so their death feels more unnecessary knowing there was a solution out there
My uncle/godfather died from aids in 1992. He was 33.
While it's great that people are now able to live with it, it sure sad we lost so many before.
I literally cannot imagine if my friends and community members just kept dying with random symptoms that doctors didn't understand and the government wouldn't address. It would feel like the world was ending, seriously.
I was an adolescent during this time and, yes, that's exactly what it felt like. Between that and the impending threat of nuclear war, yes.
Oh like that time we had an airborne virus and the then president laughed and said it’d go away on its own!? Yeah totally 😀
Doesn’t sound too far from what we’re living through now.
@@alejandraponce6214 Literally. Except without the benefit of the internet, a bunch of scientists working toward a vaccine or Dr. Fauci trying to be the voice of reason. Just radio silence except for death rattles and the sounds of your friends and neighbors crying at funerals every weekend.
My empathy for the LGBT+ community in the 80s was certainly enhanced by the opportunity to live through a worldwide pandemic though. What a mess.
This is what lyme disease is still doing and the CDC won't acknowledge it 😔
my uncle passed in 2011 to AIDS. he was an incredible and loving man. i miss him SO much and wish i could have had him in my life longer. thank you for this episode ❤️
My ex’s late father was a hemophiliac, and he developed AIDS from a bad blood transfusion.
By the time his parents told him and his sister, his dad would die a week later after coming to watch his final softball game.
His mom is a nurse and Huge advocate of AIDS research. There is a statue honoring those who died from AIDS in San Francisco that has his dad’s name on it.
i heard about this happening to hemophiliacs.
I hope I’ll live long enough to listen to Bailey talk about Covid19 in a few years.
Nah, it’ll be closer to 30 years down the road before people understand the full truth of what happened
I'll just leave it in adiary and kids can ask about it after I'm long gone☺️
@@sailorarwen6101 speak for yourself
She does. And about trump. She compares it to the bubonic plague and Andrew Jackson. But low key. I love it
I’ll help you get started. RockefellerLOCKSTEP(2010/2011?) Jan-Aug2019 CrimsonContagion, WHITEPAPER’d Sept2019. Plan went “live, active, global”Oct2019EVENT201. NPR reported 1st case Nov in Washington State; implying Wuhan military Olympics returnees were responsible. (NPR reported spring 2020) early 2020, chain of custody US blood supply showed antibodies at least back to august2016.
Go watch:DIED SUDDENLYon theRUMBLEsite. Save the cognitive dissonance till the end.
My Uncle passed away from AIDS in 1995 two weeks after I grad HS. He was like a dad to me😔. I saw him suffer and I changed my career from explorer/future Deputy, to Nurse. Thanks to the beautiful staff who treated him with the utmost dignity 💕💯
Hi Bailey 🤩I am starstruck by your text. Thank you 🙏. Unfortunately I don’t know how to use the text gram.
@@maryanntoscano9305 It's not Bailey, it's a bot. They're all over CZcams. They are scams, don't interact with them. Stay safe! :)
@@desertraindrops9840 🙏 thank you 😊
I just want to thank you, Bailey, for being you. AIDS is horrible, but you approached this with love, compassion, understanding, and many other things. Thank you, Bailey, for informing us, on such a horrible thing, with so much love.
I lived in the Castro District of San Francisco during this time. I lost so many dear friends from this awful plague. It was a sad and scary time for them-and me.
When I came out of the closet three years ago the first thing both of my parents told me is, “Well, I hope you don’t get AIDS because that’s what happens to people who want to live that kind of life”.
Having conversations about this is so important and I’m so happy you do content like this.
😞
Thank you for sharing you story. I’m so incredibly sorry they said that to you. It’s not a lifestyle or a choice. It’s who you are. Family isn’t necessarily blood related anymore. It’s heartbreaking that people will still treat their own family like that in this day & age. Just know you’re loved for who you are no matter what. ❤️
I am so sorry your parents said that to you, and that they think that way. Know that there are people who love you and care about you no matter who you love. 💖
Your parents sound very uneducated, I'm so sorry they reacted like that! Just know that there's a family for you in the lgbtqia community 🥰🥰
Wow. So sorry that your family just threw that out there. I'm actually writing a book (m/m romance) where a character's parents basically threw him out of the house with an attitude like that, but after he has a health crisis (not AIDS related) they realize they need to check themselves. I explained it by having his mom say "we were scared for you - that you would be in physical danger (violence and/or disease) and the victim of bias. As parents we wanted to protect you, but we should have just listened to you instead." I'm the author so I can give my character a happy ending, and it's for all those (like yourself) whose experiences were not the best.
Man. I remember in the early 90s, I was is a school gym playing with a bunch of kids. I had a scrape or something and was unknowingly bleeding a little. A classmate noticed and said something like "hey lets get a bandaid from Mr. So and so." And when the teacher saw that I was bleeding, he started screaming at everyone to get away, screaming about AIDS. I was so confused and felt like I did something wrong. I was probably 4 or 5 and never forgot. People's hysteria over AIDS was crazy, on the playground it was the new "cooties". Thanks for talking about this Bailey!!!
Cool early 90’s bs story bro
@@OGC1970 thanks homie. Cool thing about the truth, you don't have to believe it for it to have happened.
I don’t doubt it. A lot of people were so paranoid.
My mom was one of the science researchers in the early 90’s who did AIDS research to better understand the virus. It is amazing how modern medicine has really progressed wonders. I always think about all the individuals who lost their lives; How PrEP could have changed their lives and how it could have possibly helped or changed their prognosis.
There's a lot of stuff I wish they knew then, that we know now. It was a very dark time.
My cousin passed away in a nursing home due to AIDS related complications my cousin was a trans woman and always lived her life as a trans woman but when she passed it made me mad because he brothers and sisters made the sermon about them not agreeing with her lifestyle and they dressed her up as male and used her male name.. I love you Montasia rip ❤️
I used to work with a lovely woman who was originally from a country in Africa. During her tenure, she had to return home for the funeral of her sister. She ended up being gone so long, that she had to give up her job. I saw her a couple of years later, and she told me a little of her trip home. Another sibling was very ill, and dying as well. It turns out that 3 of her siblings passed away from AIDS. Absolutely heartbreaking.
They knew fully well that their blood products were tainted and refused to act because it wasnt cost effective. So these companies offloaded a massive amnt of their tainted blood products overseas. Officials in France did prison time for their part in it. Not a word of it in the US
I can't disagree
I can just picture them counting the money they were going to make off all the sick people.
And all their victims being infected with a (at that time) terminal illness
Exactly! More like an experiment for them...sickening 😢
Yes Bayer was one the the company that shipped tainted blood over seas
Bailey, I totally agree with your assessment of Ronnie. He was bad news all around.
Loved the show, just wondering why you didn’t mention Faucci and the MASSIVE role he played with AIDS
Because as entertaining as she is she doesn’t like facts.
No kidding. When she opened with a huge part of the problem being in the White House, I assumed she meant Faucci.
Thank you Bailey for shedding light onto a topic that still has so much ignorant statements surrounding it.
Looking at the quilt is so heartbreaking. It really reminds you that these were real people with full lives and not just statistics. 💙
I know a nurse who worked in NYC when all that hit. She said it was one of the most heartbreaking things she’s ever seen. They really did not know what it was at first. She told me that she thought it was the end of the world. Those poor people passed in horrible ways. She said it changed her forever. Too many died way too soon! It took such a long time to understand it.
Thank you for sharing. ❤❤❤
Hey, remember there was a show on BET, called "Hits From The Streets". On one of his last episodes (of course), He went to Africa and was interviewing people. He ended up finding that a very large amount of people were saying that Family members were going to clinics for medical attention and coming back with AIDS. The way they were presenting the cases, led one to assume that they were being given AIDS by those that were setting up the free clinics, instead of getting the help promised. After that, the show was cancelled... something to look into
Ryan White's case was such a huge representation that this could affect anyone. I'm glad you included him. It was so sad what he had to face on top of his health issues.
My dad passed in 94 because of this. Thanks for covering!
I remember watching a VHS tape about AIDS in elementary school in the late 80s. They gathered a group of us in the gym to watch it. That tiny bit of effort by people in charge made a difference by spreading awareness about the disease.
A huge thank you Bailey for your Dark History channel!! Your truly a Godsend to everyone who has been left in the **Dark**!! ♥️
In 1983 I was working as a flight attendant for United Airlines - my 1st supervisor & 7 other crew member friends all dies of aids.
At that time they really said that casual connect was dangerous- can you imagine.
It wasn’t until 1989 when I took a class I learned the truth of the disease.
I didn’t get married until 1991- and adopted a son by marriage. He had been born early with medical problems & had 4 transfusions in his first couple of days.
It wasn’t until he was 10 did we know for sure that he had not contacted aids - as they were NOT testing blood donations.
Thankfully we know better & we do better today!
I have helped with a local center & helped my dear friend find medication- he is 20+ years & doing strong living with aids!
♥️ Thanks Bailey♥️
I’m at a point where I truly don’t trust the government. I’m just angry that it took this long
The government hides and covers up so much it's insane!!
Same! I grew up learning abt the Tskeegee Airmen so right off the bat I don't trust the gov.
I don't either. I'm wondering what's going to come out later about the Vac.
The truth is the government was never reliable, not even once.
Me too 🥺 it feels like when my parents told me Santa wasn't real. Kinda crushing to know the truth of your government
This is such a great episode. I've been watching POSE lately and that show does a great job showing the fear the LGBTQ and POC communities had in the late 80s/early 90s but also their will to survive and create a legacy. This episode is a great companion to that show.
I'm glad you did this video. When I was 9 my grandmother passed away from AIDS related complications. Not enough people know the truth about AIDS and how it's transmitted. Its not something to joke about and has affected so many lives. Thank you for spreading awareness in such a kind and honest way.
My aunt died of AIDS in the 80’s from a transfusion with tainted blood.
😔
What country was she from? Australian victims of this are still not being acknowledged or helped.
That's so sad
I’m sorry
so horrible.
we need more history teachers like bailey
Yup. 69th likes loll
I teach Brit Lit to 11th graders, which requires giving a lot of background about British history, and Bailey is my inspiration! Since watching her Dark History videos, I’ve changed up my teaching style, and the kids are WAY more attentive and ask so many more questions. Thank you, Bailey!
@@sarahelsworth7255 thank YOU for adjusting your style to benefit and be more engaging with your students, especially at that grade level, we need more teachers like you ♥️
Never heard “chucklef***” before 😂 I love it! I will add it to my repertoar (english is not my first language)
Repertoire - it's a French word. You spelled it phonetically, which makes more sense to me!!
It’s interesting that I watched this one for the first time in the day Queen Elizabeth ll passed away. Princess Diana was a kind, gentle spirit who didn’t fear her people that needed love.
While there’s still no official cure, I am so thankful for everyone that worked on these projects to continue finding one someday. Technology and medical science has some such a long way. Thank you.❤️
Bailey could do the dark history of the toilet brush and I'd still be like huhh huh huhh huh, thats right girl, Those are some messed up brushes. 🤔.
Lol
Absolutely!!!!
Get your heads checked!
😂
I know right lol. She's so captivating
Elton John actually credits Ryan and his family for helping him get clean. He is still very close with Ryan's family and just recently was in IN for an AIDs benefit concert.
How awesome is that, I had no idea about that. Now I have another reason to love Elton
This is BEAUTIFUL!!! This young inspirational boy is the epitome of this saying: Stay strong, you never know who you’re inspiring!!! 😢❤
My mums sister passed in 95, she got it from a blood transfusion after giving birth a few years back and passed it on to her new born without knowing. He’s also recently passed last year in 2021, he lived a very sad life with so much health problems coz the medical system failed them in the 90s
This is absolutely heartbreaking to hear.
That’s so awful 😢
So sad😢
Thank you. I work at my local AIDS organization I am sharing this with so many of my clients. Because you are AMAIZING and very easy to understand THANK YOU.
❤️ RIP - my Uncle Rocky 1991, passed from AIDS. I was an 80’s baby & remember him being very scared to be around me. He was my hero ❤️ Thank you Bailey !!!
This woman’s channel is the core of CZcams
Periodt, this is Miss Beauty with brains
I REALLY miss Mondays... this doesn't do it for me as much.
This makes me cry 😢 I miss my friend Niklas Palm [RIP] if he could have gotten his treatment, he might still be alive. If I am not sad about it, I am mad about it. He was a light in the world that can never be replaced.
I'm so sorry you lost a friend to this!
The Ryan White Story was one of my all time favorite books in high school. Such a sad story with a huge impact on others
See how we were so easily brainwashed before the internet, etc. Whatever the news channels or the government decided to tell us, that was it. We had no other information source. So glad we can now access so many sources and be properly informed. Thank you Bailey, I didn't know nearly half the info you gave 🙏
People are still pretty brainwashed by media but i see your point.
Yes! Smart people are getting a grip to real info and the media is losing its grip on being as relevant.
I am supposed to go on a treatment for CLL, a type of leukemia. The cost is a mere $15,000 per month. Insane. Those who cannot afford have to go through some sort of screening for government assistance. Still waiting to hear if I will be able to get the medication. Big Pharma is really messed up.
How many months? 2 or 22?
I know this too well. I had Hodgkin's Lymphoma, my Oncologists almost stopped my treatment because we were waiting to hear back from Medicaid, it took ages. Luckily my parents were in a position to pay a couple payments ( set up a payment plan, just to keep the treatment going while waiting ). They refuse to tell me how much they paid as before the treatment even started there were things like the bone marrow biopsy, PET scans, lymph node biopsy. Fingers crossed you hear back soon and treatment goes well.
I am so sorry 😥
Our tax dollars go into research and this country has the highest fees for medications. The politicians who we vote for are funded by Big Pharma and insurance companies.
I'm sorry to hear that. Part of the reason why government is not doing much about prices is because they are in bed with Big Pharma.
I graduated from Hamilton Heights which is where Ryan went until he passed. Our school welcomed him. We have a memorial every few years for him. The last one was last year and Elton John sent a video. Ryan became friends with Micheal Jackson. He and Elton John paid for Ryan’s funeral.
It’s not a Bailey Serian video unless you’re casually doing something while listening to her talk and randomly hear a giggle followed by “I’m not laughing because it’s funny I’m laughing because I’m uncomfortable”
I'm 42 and all I remember in my life is AIDS being a part of life. I remember learning about it, the AIDS quilt coming to my school. Its so sad.
I'm 46, and same. I didn't realize how traumatic the whole thing was until watching this just now and thinking back. It was an awful lot for kids our age to deal with.
Back in 1996-ish (10th) grade, my biology teacher did a whole unit on this. It was crazy but I think it taught a few people empathy and removed some of the bias surrounding the disease. We watched the movie "And the Band Played On." And had to get parental permission slips to complete the unit.
We watched that too in school.
As someone who’s family was effected by this back then, I really appreciate this video. My paternal grandmother and her man and four year old all passed due to it when my father was a teen. This epidemic effects a lot of people and our generation is heavily out of touch concerning it and like to distance ourselves from it but realistically if you had family here back then, they were likely effected by it even if they didn’t have it because of the sheer amount of loss that was experienced.
Princess Diana did wonders to dispel the AIDS ignorance in the U.K. Seeing her on the News sitting with AIDS patients, holding their hands and hugging them was amazing to see as a young teen and all we talked about at school. Made a whole generation learn more and become more compassionate.
Shout out to my bleeder sisters & brothers in the hematology 🩸community! We lost many lives during the AIDS epidemic from blood transfusions.♥️
Definitely educate the rest of us on female hemophiliacs and how underdocumented their cases are compared to those of male hemophiliacs.
@@thecajunphoenix 100% absolutely something that needs to be talked about. Would’ve made my journey so much easier.
Gia and Angel's in America are two of my favorites that taught me alot about the AIDS epidemic.
Too much stigma and hate in the world still. Never be afraid to ask the hard questions. Love you Bailey. 💕
Yes Gia was great
It’s so sad because in the beginning, so many people died alone because their parents/family wouldn’t claim them.
Every single person in a nursing home or assisted living facility who died during COVID, died alone.
Thank you Bailey, you explained this in such detail for the time available and so sensitively. I appreciate all you do. And having lost someome close from AIDS this was a breath of fresh air. Let’s hope it reaches all audiences and helps them understand this horrible disease even a little bit better. Thank you 🙏🏼
The fact Bailey doesn’t really swear means I can listen to dark history in the car 🤣 my kids will be on point in dark history
I read this just as Bailey started chanting “chuckle f**ks, chuckle f**ks” 😂😂
Bailey very much curses in most all of her videos lol
@@inkedmombeauty4004 but its just the basic swears all 12 year olds know 🤣
@@carerofgoblins i wouldve loved having my mom put stuff like this on the way to school at twelve!! its entertaining but genuinely educating, way 2 go momma :D!!!!
@@judahbea1401 aww thank you. I hope I’m not messing them up too much 🤣
Anyone who's interested in this topic, Lindsey Ellis made a video about the play "Rent" and the AIDS epidemic and it's just as informative.
Amazing video, I lost my older sister in the early 90's when I was just a little girl so this hits home for me. Thanks for this Bailey. Your hair looks really really cute like this too. ♥
It's my favorite musical. I've had the DVD of rent for years
@Megan Rivera What is the name of the doc ?
@@mritzs5142 She titled it, "Rent, Look pretty and do as little as possible." I believe? 💖
Does it explain how Roger and Mimi could afford AZT?
@@krob7955 I don't think that information was volunteered in the movie so I don't think so.
This episode always brings me to tears. Thank you so much Bailey, for educating people. You are simply amazing ❤❤❤
this is the poadcast that we always wanted and never knew it. thank you so much for your effort and time into this series, all of the topics you have covered are interesting and they always introduce new issues i never knew before! ❤❤❤
I live thru this, everything you said is 100%true and heartbreaking. I cared for my father and did it alone. No nurses would come. He took azt and we knew it did nothing but thats all there was at the time. To watch a grown man wither and feel shame was the hardest time in my life. When he did finally die we still had to keep secrets about his death but, two weeks later I got the biggest brightest aids ribbon tattoo with his full name on it that I could afford and showed the world how much I loved and respected that man, my father, my best friend. Its been almost 30 years and I still cry from a broken heart. Robert Charles McGrath, I love you and miss you forever
The topic of the AIDS epidemic will never get old for me, there's always something new to learn from this horrific blight. Stay awesome Bailey! 🤘 ✨✨
I find it very curious that Fauci, was around during the early days of it. His lies and omissions of truth, are too much to ignore.
@@kevincollins7300 while i wasn't around to be able to tell you whether or not he actually did something. There's info out there that he did work towards fighting the disease since he took the position. Fauci also created The President's Emergency Plan for AIDS relief in the year 2000.
Elizabeth Taylor helped get research and facts out.
This was a very well put-together DH. Kudos on your input and the new information we didn’t know at that time. I remember the 80’s when this all got crazy. People were so misinformed by the misinformed.
My brother has haemophilia. He contracted HepC from blood products here in Australia in the late 80s. He was one of the lucky ones. He was part of the pilot study to treat HepC in the 00s & was cured.
When I was in the Girl Scouts in 1987 we helped sew the aids quilt in Washington DC. It was such a big event and I was only 7.
I was also in the Girl Scouts at this time and we created a square and sent it to DC.
@@tammyelizabeth5157 same , I didn’t realize till we got to DC just how big this was.
Your Dark History podcasts are just amazing!!!! Your delivery, the wealth of information....... stellar!!! I greatly appreciate all of the intensely hard work that must go into these!!!! I think you're fabulous, Bailey!!! Thank you for bringing your bright light into our world!! Blessings to you!! ✌️💚🙏
Bailey, I hope you see new comments on old posts. You are a REAL ONE and you did a great job on this episode. I love that I'm old enough to have experienced the 80s, even though I was a little kid for much of it. But I very well remember the tragic story of Ryan White, and I remember the insanity of the Reagan years. It's crazy to think of what a different country and world we might have, had we not had to live with THAT plague.
Thank you for all you do!!
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Haven’t even gotten a chance to finish this but thank you Bailey for bringing light to such an important topic. 🙏🏻🖤
I had to have a blood transfusion after an emergency c-section in 1985. I then had to be tested to make sure I didn't have it. It was very stressful.
Bailey, I have been WAITING for someone to do something like this. I have many friends who almost died of AIDS. I am an activist in my home city and here's to your wonderful storytelling talent, being used to spread awareness.
I've worked my way through most of your DH episodes. This - in my opinion is the best. Thanks for covering it Bailey. You rock
Interesting because I just watched the myth of patient zero on CZcams. I highly recommend. Thanks for covering this heartfelt issue.
Yes that was so well done. I also suggest we were here and how to survive a plague.
@@beckybertish7841 We Were Here is so powerful. Great recommendation.
Same 😅
Holy Smokes, me too!! LOL...it was a suggestion from CZcams!!
I was an EMT in So Cal in the early 80s and we called it GRID back then. We wore no gloves unless we were delivering a baby. It was like the Wild West! Yeah, Eff Reagan.
Thank you for always being informative and transparent with us. You are the best Bailey.
Thank you for shedding light on this topic and making this video, although sad and painful to learn about it is so so important
So glad that in todays age, we’ve nearly cured this. Pills can bring your load to 0 and you won’t transmit it. The saddest cases were the innocent kids born with it or getting via blood transfusion 😥
We haven’t cured it. As long as people take their meds they have a chronic illness.
I agree with you. But I think the idea that undetectable = no transmission, is still not widely known. I wish people would know and understand it more so that it could motivate people to seek care and also we could work towards getting more access to everyone who needs the treatment and care
@@maliwanxiong9692 when the load is low its a very low chance your partner can get it
it's all tragic.
We need universal healthcare in America. An acquaintance of mine died because he just couldn’t afford it.
Bailey is such an allie, I'm so proud of her ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍
Bailey, you are so amazing. Thank you for taking the time to carefully research and then break down the layers (and layers and layers) in such an interesting and informative way.
Thank you Bailey for spreading this information!!! My great uncle was removed from a plane when he was flying home to visit the family for the last time before his time ended, and it was truly awful the way everyone with this disease were treated!!!!
My aunt was devastated when Rock Hudson died. I was sad about Magic Johnson. Ryan's story is absolutely heartbreaking and I'm so glad he hasn't been forgotten.
Remember the huge uproar over how Magic Johnson was given special treatment - literally - to keep his AIDS at bay while regular non-celebrities were dying because they couldn't get the medication or even get in on clinical trials? Most people have forgotten about that part, too.
My mother still goes on about Rock Hudson. He was her all time celebrity crush
My hero Freddie Mercury passed away because of AIDS I'm sure a lot of people from all around the world know who he is, sending you love from the UK Bailey 🇬🇧💙🖤
Uh yes, we all know Freddie Mercury.
The world lost an amazing soul that day!! 😢 ignorance killed him!!😢
I love Fredd
@@HVS-gk7oo um no, not everyone knows who Freddie Mercury is
“Grown people are the worst acting people” is so true n honestly sad. That’s the sad. I jus hope people my age 24+ do better
I love your shows and they keep me well amazed and learn new information about everything you talk about! You are doing a great job and I always look forward to your next episode!!
One of the saddest times in history. I am so grateful for all the people who fought for the rights of all. Thank you Bailey for always being an ally.
One of my brother in law's just passed from A.I.D.S because he couldn't pay for the medications. The price tag for the meds are ridiculous.
I'm so sorry and angry about that!
I've heard that, and I know that if i were to contract it, i would probably be left for dead, along with if i were to have type 1 diabetes and required insulin...
Wait you guys pay for it? In South Africa meds are free! Even in public hospitals or clinics
I have a friend that pays over $1200 a month!
This was so very well done. Thank you for all the work that went into this.
This is such important history that so many people are completely unaware of because it's considered a "special interest." Thanks for this excellent coverage of this still-recent stain on American history.