The Nanny Murder Case: Shaken Baby Syndrome on Trial | Retro Report
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- Shaken baby syndrome burst into the national spotlight in 1997, when a young British nanny was charged with murder. Twenty years later, the scientific debate about possible causes of the syndrome continue to shape child abuse cases today. Watch the companion pieces here:
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Gotta give some respect to a Doctor who considers his own faults, admits them, and is remorseful.
Must take a lot of courage.
Seriously thank God for that guy. That is _so_ rare.
big time.
Surprising what a lot could do when you swallow your pride. A Chinese proverb goes "feeling shame gives rise to courage."
Wow and he was the biggest SOB on cross exam by Scheck. My hat's off to him for really taking to heart Scheck's frustrated outburst and really digging deep into his own expertise and soul and re-committing himself on the topic. Amazing.
"They didnt want a kid so now they dont have a kid ?!" What an absolutely cruel thing to say.. may that man NEVER feel the pain of losing a child or he'd end himself.
So much respect to the doctor for being so honest about his mistakes and decisions. Rare to see that.
I admire Dr. Barnes for his honesty
Me too
But what if a parent does it before dropping their baby off with the baby sitter??? Like wtf if the sife effects dont start until the baby has been dropped off? ? So the baby sitter just gets blamed?
Only Allah knows
i was thinking the same thing, tje
last person with the baby isn't always the one at fault and therefore shouldn't be accused without proof...
Everything about these cases is sketchy af, from the inaccurate diagnoses, to how easily it can be to put the blame on someone else. Notice how the one guy towards the end, basically says “it shouldn’t matter if we get it wrong, because it’s all about the intention of protecting the children” smh
There have been infants who ended up with skull fracture during birth, sent home then brought back in a few days with the parents then told they abused their own child when it was actually a birth injury. There are actuality health problems that cause the brain and eye bleeding seen in so called shaken baby and then there is true shaken baby but the issue is that you cannot tell by just looking at the pictures which has occurred. It's so sad because no matter what a child's life is forever changed even before they begin life but the reality is not every case is cut and dry like was being claimed for so long.
Yeah my two youngest when they were born had eye hemorrhages it goes away but looks scary lol. My youngest had that and he also had broken blood vessels around his nose and upper lip and forehead.. It's only a little noticeable around his nose now but it was really bright red for a couple of yrs he's almost 3. The cord was around his neck and he couldn't get out because he was a 9lbs baby he ended being alright. When I took him to his two week visit she said nothing about it. Then his first month's or two month visit, she asked what happened to his face? Lol.. And then noted what I told her about his birth that she was there for.. Anyways I also had a piece of my placenta come out over a week later like a golf ball sized and I looked up that most women die when that happens 👍 sorry for the long comment I got triggered 😅.
Jennifer Adams That is awful sounds like a law suit tbh. I am just so happy your child are fine regardless of the Negligence on the doctors part. My friend had her children taken away and she has no contact with them until 18 because of so called shaken baby syndrome. Even though it was proven her youngest was born with birth defects.
Soo true. You've made such great points. As sad as it already is for medical staff to be so close minded by not considering the facts that these types of injuries can and do happen due to health problems while in their parents care and to just assume is so damming to the staffs judgement. When I gave birth to my second child, my daughter, the doctors said they thought she may have a heart murmur and she had to stay at the hospital for three weeks. I and her father were there every single day and night while nurses and volunteers " snugglers" gave us the most evil looks when we wanted to sleep in our assignedd room with our own child. They would actually peer thru the folding blinds when our daughter started to cry if she was hungry or needed to be changed etc. They gave us the dreadful feeling of guilt as if we were responsible for her heart murmur in which the doctors said well no she's fine. You can take her home now. Like really?!!!?? Just that made me feel like a criminal so I can't even imagine what it would feel like in this situation 🤔😢😢
@@JenLovesBenz Thank goodness you're here to take care of yourself and family!!! Wow!. Bless you and yours and be safe doll 💖
@@rutituti678 I am so angry for you guys right now reading that! I had both my girls prematurely, my first due to a rare defect that there is nothing I could have done differently to avoid and nothing I did to cause, and my second due to the damage done to my uterus during the first delivery but thankfully I had amazing teams and they were like fam after awhile. My oldest was 28 weeks and weighed only 2lb 10.5oz at birth and spent 52 days in NICU and I was there all the time. If any such snuggler had given me the shit they put yall through I would have gone full on mama bear on everyone. I do have a bit of a temper though lol comes from being the smallest my entire life everywhere and having to fight and be loud to be heard. My girls are my world and I can't imagine the stress that put you and your husband through. Glad your little one is doing well now and that you have her home. I am so sorry you went through that, it is not ok for people esp in the medical field to do this shit yet they do it constantly. I know one girl who's ob was in such a hurry to go watch some football game or some shit i can't remember exactly what it was but it was something like that which should not have taken precedent, that he induced her when she was progressing just fine and rather quickly as it was, her baby was huge at 10lbs and the labor then got so intense she was in extreme pain but since the ob had told her it was too soon for the epidural then decided to speed things up but wait on it still and then it was too late there was nothing they could do then but just push through it. She tore horribly as the ob used the dam forceps to further quicken the pace of delivery and was very agitated and in a hurry about it. She ended up with a bunch of stitches and it went clear inside it was awful plus poor baby had a dislocated shoulder and a broken collar bone and later after realizing he was not using that arm as much as the other they found out he had massive nerve damage to his neck, shoulder and arm. Smh all could have been avoided had the ass not been in such a hurry smh.
Blame a parents because they have to work and need daycare? Come on. It's not the 1950s where the husband works and the mom stays home. Back then it was easier and more realistic for the mom's to stay home. This day and age, cost of living has gone up. This babysitter was found through a company that specialize in child care, not a damn Criag List ad.
Another case that really bothers me is the case of Dana Rene Munyon, she got away with it.
Au pairs are teens, and they do NOT specialize in child care.
Doesn't matter if a mother works by choice. You don't even mention fathers. I can't believe we're having this discussion in 2020.
@@Tracymmo I said parents- husband and wife.
Also the baby was 3 weeks old, too young to be at a daycare
@@emmymoto au pairs aren't necessarily teens and they certainly may be certified in child care or early childhood education. Live in au pairs are a popular choice for many families and are usually sourced through reputable companies that screen their candidates carefully. Even federal politicians in Aus use au pairs rather than full time nannies or random sitters.
To be able to step back and consider the possibility that you may be wrong, and have been wrong must be so difficult to admit. But I love that this Dr did just that, and went forward to show the world that the issue can be more complex.
It's one of our favorite interviews because it takes guts to admit you were wrong and rectify your mistake.
not gonna lie... when my daughter was 7 months old she fell asleep after i nursed her and i left her on my bed to make dinner for my husband and mother-in-law before they both got home from work. i truly thought she was sound asleep but after a minute or two i heard her cry and i went in my bedroom to see she had rolled off the bed. my first thought was obviously "omg... is she seriously hurt??" but my second thought was "if she is hurt, will i get blamed for 'shaken baby syndrome?'" i would never do anything to hurt my baby but i was truly scared for a second that doctors would think i was deliberately violent to her. thank god she was okay and was more scared than anything
sometimes you find out they can now roll off the bed in the worst possible way! you never forget the 'thud' :/
Never ever leave a baby/todler on the bed without bedrails and unsupervised. That is the dumbest thing ever
I rolled off the bed in front of my mum and siblings who were trying to entertain me as a baby and when she picked me up, she panicked because I had landed on a wooden brick and had a hole in my head in between my eyes! I had landed on a wooden toy and needed to get stitches. Babies seem to like roll of beds 😅
Ahh that happened to me too. My twins were very young and I put my son down ..not even close to the edge ...and turned to pick my daughter up and all of a sudden...thud! And I turned and he started crying and I immediately felt like the worst mom in the world and that I was going to jail because I couldn't take care of my kids and they were going to think it was abuse.
Such a scary and horrible feeling 😔
He was completely fine though.. luckily my hubby is slob and left a small pile of laundry where he ended up falling
oh yes.. I was 5 and taking care of my baby brother who was a few months old along with my 2 year old sister and my little cousin. I was trying to calm my crying brother while also trying to get my sister and cousin to stop fighting when I accidently dropped my brother while switching him to my other side. I was quick to place my hands on the back of his head and try to get my body to catch his body. his head didnt fully hit the floor but it still did. My sister and cousin starting yelling you drop christopher!" and I was crying because I felt horrible, and didnt want my brother to die. I picked him up, talked to him, comforted him while he cried more, called my disabled grandpa and asked him what I should do. Long story short my brothers mom came and yelled and hit me for dropping my brother then my dad came and did the same. I grew up in a dyfunctional house with alcoholism, drugs, abuse, I was in charge of keeping the kids at bay while the adults were out partying. They got mad at me because I called my grandpa who comforted me and told me it was an accident, told me what to do and then called his son (my sperm donor) and yelled at him for being out drinking and leaving me at home to watch his other kids... My brother is fine now, its been 18 years since I did that and even after that I was always and still am careful. I do feel you when you feel like a true accident can lead to you being this horrible person who goes and abuses babies. I was five and forced to care for kids even tho I was a kid myself! (Although I love taking care of kids and my siblings even at that age I know at 21 that was very dangerous of me and stupid of my sperm donor.)
I was only 15 years old in 1997, but I can fully remember this case.
16 VBN I was only 9, but I remember everything about this case.
16 VBN
16 VBN I remember this too. It shocked the world
Mike I think the assumption is that teenagers don’t necessarily focus on what is happening in the news. It takes something dramatic to catch their attention. I was 15 when the Challenger disaster happened. I remember that clearly, but I couldn’t necessarily tell you the details of most other things that happened that year. Well, Chernobyl, though I always have to look up what year that was.
I remember it too i was 16
I think this case should be reopened, cos a doctor said that the babies injuries, were at least 3 weeks old, which was before Louise Woosward even went to work, for the family.
They did not say they were three weeks old, I am assuming you heard something wrong. In fact later on they one of the woman said often ties they assume shaken baby syndrome when they baby was healthy in the morning and then somehow randomly gets deathly ill.
@@lukejposadas "possible 3 week old fracture" 4:08
The fracture was 3 weeks old AT THE POINT OF DEATH. We don't know how long the baby was in hospital until it died.
@@Tippel3 Yes, we do. 5 days. Just because you don't know how to look things up doesn't mean it's unknown.
That’s right. I find it more plausible that after one of the parents shook him they decided that they couldn’t cope and needed an au pair. Then the wheel of fate turned.
Well it’s a tough story, but an au pair shouldn’t look after a young baby! You do not hire a teenager to take care of the life and needs of your little baby! You need someone qualified.
I feel like a lot of commenters here didn't watch the documentary.
They definitely didn’t…or their listening comprehension skills are severely lacking.
Just like the stupid jurors in the case didn't listen to the evidence.
Interesting use of British/American language usage. Louise Woodward: I popped the baby in the bath. British 'i put the baby in the bath'. American 'i hit the baby in the bath'
I'm American, and have never used the word "popped" to mean "hit," and don't know many people who use that term. It is a slang term, maybe more common in the South. "I popped the baby in the bath" means "I put the baby in the bath" to me. "I popped (food) in the toaster/fridge/oven," or "I popped in to say hello," are fairly common usages, and readily understandable in the US.
Heidi H That really interesting, because it was an issue / came up in the trial or the reporting at the time as being important. It really is about the only particular thing I remembered about it other than the name of the nanny and how young she was.
@@zoewilkins2896 Oh wow, that is really interesting. I didn't know that the word "popped" was commonly used to mean "hit." I know it's a slang term, but haven't really heard it in use. I do think it's more common in the Southern US. Since the trial happened in the Northeast, it must be common there too. I haven't heard it much in the Midwest where I've lived all my life.
Heidi H yes, it is amazing how many versions of spoken English there are. Even in the same country!
Once Child Protective Services is involved, it doesn't matter is you're innocent or not. It doesn't matter if the neighbor lady was mad that your dog pooped on her lawn and called them, they will make your life hell even if you have done nothing, but then they also turn around and leave kids with obviously abusive parents who end up killing them.
Exactly. Such a corrupt system, from top to bottom. They’ll gladly tear apart healthy families, while completely ignoring obvious abuse smh
As a Kindergarten teacher, I had a five year old child come to school with a large bruise on his head which his mother told me was from falling from a tree he’d climbed the day before. I should keep an eye on him and call her if complained or acted unwell. There was no reason to disbelieve her. The boy himself told me he’d climbed an apple tree behind the barn at his grandfather’s house and had fallen while getting down. He had a few scrapes/bruises on his arms one leg. He often climbed on playground equipment not intended for that purpose, ran into things, played rough, etc. The day passed without incident, although, in retrospect, he was a bit more subdued than usual. It wasn’t until Tuesday that “Charlie” complained of a sore neck, but since it appeared during a handwriting lesson, and vanished for P.E., I wasn’t concerned. After P.E. we had snack. Charlie ate very little and asked to put his head down. Not normal. The flu was going around, and that was my initial thought. He perked up for story circle, and we were preparing for a book project when Charlie turned a grayish color, and crumpled to the floor in a convulsion. 911 was called and he was rushed off to the hospital. I was shocked to find out Charlie had a broken neck, cracked ribs, and a skull fracture. It turned out that he had not fallen from a tree. He’d made the story up to tell his parents to avoid getting in trouble. What had really happened was that he’d gone for a ride on his older cousin’s 3-wheeler, no helmet, no safety belt, and had crashed into a tree after speeding down the farm lane. When he came to, he knew he’d get in trouble, so he made up a likely story which nobody had questioned. The police called in his parents, grandfather, and three of four cousins. I was eventually contacted by the police and Child Protection Services. Charlie made a full recovery, nobody was found at fault (except Charlie), and his injuries were eventually part of a class action lawsuit that led to the outlawing of three wheeled off-road vehicles. Today four-wheelers are ubiquitous, found on most farms and popular for recreational use, but you find any three-wheelers!
Thank goodness he was ok
I think it’s crazy that 3 wheelers were outlawed because a child snuck on one, without a helmet & without his parents permission. The biggest reason was because there was a high incidence of injury, most associated with children, who shouldn’t have been on them in the first place, yet trampolines and pools are given a pass. Very bizarre how laws are decided.
@@user-bp6gp2rc1v There have already been three child drownings in backyard pools in my area this summer. One was with three adults present, not one of whom could swim. Another adult drowning occurred at a party where the victim and most of the partiers were drunk and high. Still, backyard pools aren’t outlawed. How many people die in auto accidents? Cars aren’t outlawed, either.
As for the three-wheelers, ever ridden one? I have, and compared with a four wheeler, they are very unsteady. But you are right. Charlie could have had the exact same thing happen on a four-wheeler. He was old enough to know he wasn’t allowed on the vehicle as driver, by himself, but not old enough to really understand the possible outcome. If anyone is to blame, it’s whoever left the key in the ignition.
Blaming the _mother_ of all people. What century was this.
I always thought the nanny was innocent and felt bad for her.
Me too, when they said she was guilty and she said sobbing "but I really didnt do anything" that got to me. I feel like something happened to the baby then they called the nanny over and the baby fell ill while she was with the nanny.
Betty but she had no problem smiling when asked on the stand if she caused him harm - she’s guilty
@@georgialee6755 she got away with murder
@@georgialee6755 Body language analysis is pseudoscience. People also smile when they're uncomfortable, nervous, in disbelief, upset, etc. It doesn't mean maliciousness or anything like that, people have different emotions and express differently.
Naming a famous and recent case, some witnesses on stand would sometimes smile or laugh during the George Floyd trial. It doesn't indicate guilt, it just indicates they're people. People don't magically turn into robots after a death.
Shaken baby is Junk Science... documentary on it with the innocent project. Ridiculous it holds up in court.
But what about the baby’s skull fracture and broken arm?
She obviously threw him down after shaken him
He said there was "impact" which means the baby was thrown .
@@katieb2098 the baby also could have fallen from a bed or changing table or whatever. Impact means impact, doens't tell you anything about how the impact was created
Jeanne Louise creates it! Can’t believe people defend her
@@georgialee6755 It's not about defending someone, it's taking the evidence as is. And that simply is not enough to go beyond reasonable doubt
I was an AuPair too. And I loved the babies I took care and still do. I still meet them and I am like their big sister to them.
Wow that is crazy
Other health conditions can cause brain injury but a skull fracture is a good indication that it was caused by blunt force trauma either by the nanny or the mom. We may never know.
Tolovve Or Father.
Why just the mom? Couldn't it have been the father?
Or a grandparent, aunt, uncle, sibling, friend, nurse etc
It could also be an accidental fall or injury while going through birth canal.
The 911 call was around 4pm. I doubt very highly that the parents hurt the baby, but he didnt show signs until 8 hrs later.
A surveillance camera inside the home would have cracked the case wide open.
Probabky true but this was in 1997 tho lol
As a career nanny of 15 years I wholeheartedly encourage parents to use video cameras, my career was saved because of a video camera! Little toddler came running at me, slipped on one of his toys on the carpet and cracked his skull on the fireplace brickwork - if not the camera footage showing it was a freak accident in which I Dove to catch him and missed by an inch or two - my career, livelihood and freedom would have been at stake! I literally was scared shittless and kept repeating to myself the cameras caught at all, the cameras caught it all - everything will be fine! We just gotta get him to the hospital! Little man split his scalp open and got a good concussion but was healed up fine and I was their nanny for 2 more years!
Or even an audio recording of the police interview with Woodward. It would have removed the detectives' temptation to get creative with their rewrites.
Great choice of interviewees!
Watch the Retro Report interview with Norman Guthkelch, the British pediatric neurosurgeon who "discovered" shaken-baby syndrome--he was very critical of the way his research was used.
I remember watching a video in the hospital after giving birth about the period of purple crying. I didn’t know it was possible for a baby to die by being shaken before that video. Im glad they now show it to all new time parents
What an amazing doctor
Sad...
An Irish woman who had lost 3 babies to infant death syndrome was convicted of murder as doctors said 3 dead baby’s could not be coincidental??
On further investigation it was found that female relatives back in Ireland had least 2 dead babies with them.
It’s now excepted that this was a genetic abnormality that still is unexplained.
The girl was a child herself
BULLSHIT! She should have be n imprisoned and when her sentence was completed (enough years so that she would never conceive) then deported! ?’she’s a child? SHES OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG!
‘Au pair’....a fancy term for importing a foreigner to car for your kid(s)....guess it can be a cheaper form of childcare!
HuMan Being 34/7 indeed yes.
Who gives a fuck? Why did the baby have to suffer?????
@@kathryndrury6495 they found the injuries were 3 weeks prior to that girl even watching the child. Pay attention to the entire story
There's not enough evidence to say she hurt the baby, did you even watch the video?
She looks like a kid herself.
Well, there might be odd cases where you could similar symptoms with a different cause....but the vast vast majority is abuse. Plain and simple.
200+ overturned convictions seems like a legitimate pattern of injustice to me. This information is relevant I think
@@spaghettikennedy896 It is not because a conviction is overturned, that the accused is innocent. Plenty examples of that (C. Anthony). Yes, there will be justice for an innocent person perhaps, but the majority will now get away with what they have done.
Reasonable doubt does not mean any doubt. Remember that. They look at patterns and preceeding behavior.
MegaTinni yes! Patterns and preceding behaviour. Exactly. But the cases talked about here had no pattern and no preceding behaviour to learn from, which is evidence in and of itself. Those are the cases that were gross miscarriages of justice and have been overturned. The concept that a person is a normal loving caregiver who suddenly snapped, and snapped so hard that they violently shook a small child or slammed/threw them into a hard object - and this for some reason is NEVER witnessed by any person or camera - was an extreme theory often made up to fit the off the shelf diagnosis. Child abusers don’t go from no abuse straight to homicidal rage and then back to no abusing ever again. That’s daft. Think about doing it - think about the physical exertion of VIOLENTLY shaking a small child, or slamming them into a wall. Try even with a doll. From zero to that??? No post natal depression, drug use, mental trauma or other factors to suddenly alter the mindset of a normal person to murderer... Or a misused and misunderstood “diagnosis” that went unchallenged for decades until the Woodward trail, and is now significantly revised as a result of better science.
MegaTinni That isn’t my point. My point is that cases of injustice DO occur and they should be dealt with. If it’s an issue that occurs, no matter the scale, I’m fully open to hearing about it, not dusting it under the rug because YOU want to focus on real cases of abuse, when the documentary is about injustice lol
My little sister was born with bruises on her head and visible blood in her eyes because my mother’s cervix was dilated slightly less than 10 centimeters and my sister’s head was squeezed.
Yeah, babies can sustain skull fractures during birth.
You could just hear it in her voice when the verdict came back guilty. Ughhh I don’t think she did it. Parents claimed the baby was fine in the morning but it’s their word against the babysitter.
maybe find someone you trust like your granny
Ana I’d trust the parents over the angry nanny. The parents have an older son who was just fine
@@georgialee6755 how do we know nanny was “angry”? Postpartum depression is a real thing. What if mom did something first?
"Parents claimed the baby was fine in the morning but it's their word against the babysitter"
It's their word against the state medical examiner and the babysitter. Dr Gerald Feigin took photographs of the skull fracture during autopsy and at trial they were examined by Dr Michael Baden who said that they showed a 3-4 week old fracture. The baby was most emphatically not "fine in the morning".
Thats sad for the mother. Im a mother of two daughters i couldn't deal with that. I feel that you can't trust anyone with your babies. Be careful ladies. It's not just the babysitter is your new bf or neighbor so dont trust so easily
With that outlook could you trust ANYONE?
Can someone explain to me, how much force needed to shaken baby syndrome ? Sorry bad english
Cheers
I would think Louise has a good case for a claim there.
In order for SBS to be ruled out doesnt there have to be a medical reason why a healthy child just up and dies due to those 3 triad of deadly symptoms??? If it wasnt abuse then what??
Sometimes you don't know until you get the autopsy results.
Really a fall from a bed a month earlier??? Come on now
I dont understand what led these people to think shaking a baby wil make it sleep or stop crying
Guess this inspire that episode on SVU
In this day and age most families need 2 incomes to get by. Can't blame the mother.
Would I never understood? Was that the parents testified that Louise was irresponsible and that she would regularly go out and party and then be hungover or not wake up early enough the next day..... Yet they entrusted her with the care of their two sons because they were too cheap to hire an actual paid babysitter.... Give me a break!
One more Volvo, one less baby.
This is such an old story
The guy at the end looks like Tom Hanks
Wait how is it the parents fault people have to work and child care will always be needed they lost their son like wtf 😒
that trial was disturbing. while she was most likely guilty, im not sure she can be convicted there and should have been a mistrial, or an acquittal
How long after a fall is this possible? Some of these I would feel like it's neglect at a bare minimum...at least the ones who had injuries beyond the brain. If a child fell in the care of a nanny then that needs to be communicated to the parents as soon as possible and behavior needs to be monitored. If there are broken bones as well then I would be inclined to think there are likely signs of those injuries that should have led to an immediate visit to the doctor. In the case of the nanny situation, somebody somewhere wasn't doing the right thing even if the child's injuries weren't at their hands. The case with the father doesn't give many details but a fall a month earlier doesn't make a lot of sense to me...when were symptoms starting? There's always the possibility of a fall that wasn't witnessed when it's a mobile baby, but a really little baby who is only rolling isn't going to roll back up onto the bed if they fell. So monitoring after a fall is sooooo critical. I'm not a perfect mom. My kids have fallen off the bed when they shouldn't have probably even been on it. Not placing blame for an incident like that but definitely letting a Dr know it happened and monitoring is important.
Guilty until proven innocent.
Why someone would risk going to prison to take care of a rich person's nasty, smelly stinking sprog is beyond me!
I was born on this day 😩😩
In 1997 I was 16 years old
I don’t let anybody to watch my baby you never know what would happen
I don't blame you. I had my toddler at nursery and discovered they weren't feeding her or giving her anything to drink all day. They said she didn't ask for a drink. She couldn't flipping talk yet. She'd drink a full bottle of water as soon as I collected her. Another day they called me because she couldn't stand up. She had been fine that morning. I never left her with a nursery or childminder again.
I won't leave my doberman with a stranger never mind a child its disgusting xx
Who dear to say free her.
Fuck rich parents that try to make a poor kid do their job.
Rich because they have to work... lol wtf
why go to work to pay somebody to watch your child? i don't get it. this was a 2 parent household.
Because all women WANT to be housewives and full time moms only??
Look at this poor baby on life support, look at the swelling!!!! That's not from "choking on vomit" as she says on the 911 call... OMG you can see his eyes & face are hugely swollen.
This baby was shaken by someone & nobody has been held accountable for his death!!!! 😭💔
Rest in peace Matthew, only you know..💙🙏
Yes, he was shaken by Louise ..
Exactly he was injured by that witch she even admitted she was bumping his head on stuff she killed the baby and the parents are idiots he had a sprained wrist from week's bf how did two drs not notice that???
The swelling on his face was a side effect of the emergency brain surgery. It's something to do with clamping the skin. It's called iatrogenic oedema. They weren't impact bruises. Fun fact: before sergeant Bill Byrne decided to "remember" that Woodward said she "dropped" the baby (in contradiction to the written notes of the interview), he looked at Matthew through the glass window at the hospital, saw the bruises, and was shocked at what he saw. In his 20 years as a police officer and time as a US Marine, bruises simply meant violence to him, so he didn't ask anyone and didn't hear that they were iatrogenic. He just assumed that his suspect was a baby-beating psychopath.
@@AdrianColley Yes I understand.
The Dr's on the witness stand and coroner said this baby's head injury was caused by the baby being shaken & he demonstrated it on the stand. Louise also sad to the police that she dropped him on the bathroom floor.
My point is nobody has been held accountable for his death, whoever it did it has got away with murder. 😢
No justice.
A man in america got life imprisonment for shaking a baby to death.
I think the mother or parents did the skull fracture and arm fracture. 🤨😤😤😤
No they said there was impact , and shaken baby , she shook him and then there was some sort of impact which means she must of thrown the baby down .impact mean the baby hit something.
No, the nanny even admitted the baby had been fine that morning. No baby with a skull fracture and broken arm will appear 'fine'.
They shouldn't have kids if they don't want to look after them
Aupair seemed very immature!!
She was a child, literally a child.. that’s what au pairs are, most are teenagers. I don’t know if she expected to be fully taking care of a baby + other children
Maybe because she was 18 years old
Au-pairs are ridiculously expensive option for child and infant care, especially when you consider that many have utterly no training an infant or child care! I'm a career nanny who is vehemently opposed to Au pairs! I've never met one that I would want to leave my child with, let alone my baby!
BlowItOutYourCunt I was an au pair and we are not expensive, we were lucky to get over $200 per month, in European countries it’s closer to 3-400$ per month but that’s still pretty inexpensive
@@emmymoto With a J-1 visa, out of pockets expenses for her room/board, paying her a hrly wage and required schooling (in some countries they are required to take classes locally for language.cultural) in the US an Au Pair is often on the most expensive options for childcare which is why only 2 - 5% of childcare is au pairs.
I think the mother did it and pinned it on her. How disgusting.
They kill me callin it “Syndrome” like it’s just something you Catch like a Cold. 🙄
A syndrome is just a set of symptoms that occur simultaneously. This is accurately called a syndrome.
A cold is usually a bacterial or viral infection. It is not accurate to call a cold a syndrome. Hope this helps.
OK doc your probably right. I just think that word is a bit Overused.
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She went to America to party not look after babies that was a means to an end she always turned up late and was restricted to 5 minutes on the phone TWO HOURS she was on the phone on that fateful day ... the poor baby suffered those catastrophic injuries while in her care that photo of Matthew in hospital 😢 don't think she meant to murder or harm him she was having a bad day provably due to the pervious night she didn't even ask for him while on life support 😢 his parents have a lot to answer and they will so to will she when they go before a much higher court ..... baby Mathew fly high with the angels
NEVER WORK WITH ANYONE UNDER AGE 18!!
The parents in this case treated this girl abominably. She was basically an indentured servant. Their behavior was sickening. No 15-year old girl should be left with 2 children, one an infant, for 15+ hours every day. The baby paid the price for the decision of the parents to treat her like a modern-day slave.
Not an excuse .. only an evil bitch would harm a baby
I though the nanny was 18
Strangely, the parents were not paupers. They were doctors, and could have afforded better childcare than taking advantage of an au pair.
She was 18, not 15. How in God's name do you think a 15 year old would travel from the UK and live independently? And she was hired through a childcare agency. Do you really think an agency would employ a 15 year old? Furthermore, I baby sat from the time I was 13. I never, never abused a child/baby. Many people have grown up taking care of younger siblings. Stop blaming the parents. The only one responsible is the monster who did this!
@@Vydio Often time au pairs are University students (18 - 25) who want an American tour and are not trained at all an infant or child care. Considering it is often one of the most expensive childcare options out there, it's ridiculous that many have little to no formal training! As a career nanny I am vehemently opposed to Au pairs! I personally heard the horror stories from parents and I've had to live in many au pairs shadows because they broke Trust and oftentimes unknowingly endangered infants and children. I would never Trust an au pair with the life of my child.
Starting watching this cause I was bored with Mission Impossible 2....should've just skipped to MI:3.
Always said it the mother knew something and she blamed the young innocent girl who was in another country away from her family. Easy to blame a teen isn't it.
So unless there’s an actual video of the person doing it, looks like lawyers will be able to get killer nannies out of shaken baby abuse allegations, poor baby who suffers cannot testify! 😓
Well...if they were in jail already , I don't have to tell you what they do to the accused of such cases in prison. So much damage would be already done... unfortunately
There are also the syndrome in which a baby is veeery fragile in which literally careful hanbf-ine|
She got away with murder
Of course Berry Scheck working hard for evil to prevail.
What in the world did those parents think they were doing ??? They left not one, but two babies in the sole full-time care of an inexperienced and unqualified teenager. That was foolish and irresponsible of them. I have always thought Louise innocent. It was an accident that could have been caused by the parents or the big brother. The parents loved telling their friends they had an “English nanny”.
She came from an Au Pair agency that fully trains the nanny.
If you watch the full episode of this she laughed on the stand during questioning
people under severe stress don't necessarily behave in ways you might expect. rape survivors have been disbelieved because they didn't seem traumatised enough and seemed too 'ok' to have been raped. some people cry, some shut down, some people laugh when panicked - it's a legitimate stress response.
Marta Browne but she ain’t a rape victim. She was a psychopath.
She was 18
@@amethystrock4218 no she isn't!
@@amethystrock4218 Bullshit. She was framed
I’ll be honest and say this just pisses me off. This is why I will NEVER EVER watch another person’s baby. Watch your own brat. I had a friend bring her 10 month old over to my place and she wanted me to watch her for a minute while she ran to the store and I said no f’ing way! And I’ve never made a better decision because somehow in the 2 minutes she brought the kid to my place (with the mother present) the infant got a hold of an Ice Cube and started choking on it and the mother had to give it the Heimlich and the mother actually got pissed at ME!! I didn’t ask her to come over with her damn kid!!🤦🏼♀️ If that was me ALONE with that brat it might have died and would probably be in jail right now!!!
kay.. we get it you... hate children
PLUM THUM nope. Not children, babies. Specifically other people’s babies. And I wouldn’t call it hate I’d say a very strong annoyance.
PLUM THUM Roller Girl was dead right to be pissed off at some person showing up at her house with her baby in tow demanding that she get to leave her kid with Roller Girl. And while there the mother wasn’t watching her child and ends up having to Heimlich an ice cube out of her/his throat! And the mother was pissed at Roller Girl??? I would have shown the self-entitled bitch the door and asked her to use it that one and only time. Bye...
Sinead Murtagh Amen!! Thanks for understanding! And yup after that I told her never to bring her baby back and of course she got all defensive. 🙄 It’s real simple: just keep your brat away from me and we’re fine! I don’t have to like someone’s baby
@@ckotcher1 I really hope you use reliable birth control.
I think the mom did it 🤷🏻♀️ Why would you not want to be with your chrildren all the time you Can..
Free married now
Louise has the “psychopath stare”.
So does that mother
Man..one more life wasted.. If i knew that i cant take the jop I wouldnt be babysitter..wjy do something You are incapable of ,just stop 😩
And For Those Innocent Parent's Who Are ACCUSED OF NON ACCIDENTAL INJURY'S / SUCH CHILDREN ARE PROCURED AND TRAFFICKED TO STRANGER'S THROUGHOUT U/K FAMILY SECRET COURT'S AND FORCED FOSTERED AND ADOPTED / SHAME ON AND ON ! PERIOD.
I believe she was innocent I believe she was setup by the mother I don’t think she wanted a 2nd child. I believe it was an old fracture. I will always believe it was the mother because that morning as Drs they should have known that there a problem with the baby.The mother was cold unemotional, fake tears if I was juror I would have voted not guilty.I’m glad the judge reviewed the evidence and knew she was innocent she was wrongly convicted.
If anyone ever lay a hand on my child... I don't care who it is, I would be out for blood.
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I prefer my baby stirred
I'm going to hell for laughing at this
ONLY my OWN MOTHER or SISTER will be in charge of watching my kids. MY OWN MOTHER AND SISTER ONLY
Good luck wth that.
Glad you’re fortunate enough to have that support but some ppl don’t. 🙁
As a career nanny I am vehemently opposed to Au pairs, often times they are University students who are seeking out an American tour and have no education or training in infant or child care. There is safe, well trained, experienced and vetted (background/driving checks, CPR/First Aid cert, references and resume) child care options out there but you will pay Mucho Dinero for it (18$ - 35$/hrly).
I can honestly say I would trust my child to daycare before I would trust my kid with an au pair!
Yeah watch people disappear when you have babies :/
Sorry... who will be watching your children again?...
So a baby dies, and she walks free. Ok.
Did you watch the documentary? She shouldn’t have been found guilty and the judge took an action in the interests of justice. There have been a lot of parents and caregivers locked away and/or lost their children on the basis of bad science - or at least the dodgy use of science. Changes have happened since then, and if today that case would have been dealt with differently. Surely you don’t mean to suggest that because a baby died that someone, no matter their guilt or innocence, should go to jail?
@@sineadmurtagh943 Did you watch the documentary? There was a lot of evidence to suggest her guilt. She was found guilty based on evidence, not opinion. They followed the letter of the law, went through all the necessary steps and she was found guilty as a result. Then a judge decided to overrule the whole process. What's the point in having a legal system and going through a fair trial if that's just going to be thrown out by the opinion of one person?
Yes dodgy use of science has lost a lot of parents custody of their kids, but THIS was not one of those cases. In THIS case she should have served the sentence she was found guilty of, because of the evidence.
In the eyes of the justice system she WAS guilty. Thus she should have gone to jail. She could have appealed and gotten a new trial, they could have gone through the evidence again and maybe there would have been a different ruling, but she should never have been let out on the basis of ONE judge's opinion.
@@wendillon92 the judge is an expert in the law. The jury are not. They are amateurs. They gave their opinion. Another twelve people might have come to a totally different conclusion. You were not there. Neither were the jury. No one except Louise knows whether she is guilty or not. Guilt has not been proven beyond all reasonable doubt. The judge was entirely within his rights to rectify what he saw was an erroneous verdict.
@@wendillon92 Horseshit. She was found guilty because the stupid jurors IGNORED the evidence, tried to play detective, and came back with a ridiculously unscientific verdict. Fortunately, the judge knew that the verdict was wrong and did what he could to free Woodward.
I don’t believe Louise did it. I believe the parents did something or knew something was done to him and tried to pass it off on Louise! There was no bruising on his arms if he was shaken……he was grizzling when she took care of him and she had to cope with him. I’m saying he was already injured by someone possibly by one or both of the parents or by someone the parents knew. How we don’t know but of course it didn’t help Louise with that little laugh or smirk that day she took the stand! Bad mistake! I hope she’s able one day to get this conviction quashed!
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Shit, I remember this. Cold blooded murderer
I wonder if Trump will bring back the innocent until proven.........it Could happen
Grandma Adelaide trump thinks you need picture ID to buy groceries. 😂
Fleurs Sv that’s not true. Why do you speak untruths? It mars your word. Who will hear you?
@@adelaidemarie He said it on camera.
You don't talk like an native US citizen (ie "Who will hear you"), where are you from? Anyway, it's 2020 and Trump's sent federal employees to pepper spray US veterans and the mom wall in Portland. Also people have been detained in Portland and we've been told that it's not arrest if you are let go eventually (because they didn't have any charges or intention of placing charges). Violation of first amendment to punish protesters or journalists because "someone", who they never seem to stop I might add, was misbehaving. Violation of the fourth amendment to seize someone without a warrant. Trump's done nothing to enforce the first or the fourth....except tell the Detroit mayor to cut a deal with the protesters who yell in people's faces and bring guns to indicate that they are peaceful individuals (yeah, March protesters are cool, June protesters are to be punished for actually using first amendment.)
This is why people should take care of their own children. If you aren't financially ready to stay home and take care of a child then don't have one.
Thats a load of bullshit. If that were the case, some people would never have kids not everyone is rich enough to stay home or have an SO support an entire family. There are 2 income households and many raise perfectly fine children
So if someone accidentally gets pregnant and chooses not to have an abortion and doesn’t want to add to the literal hundreds of thousands of children waiting to be adopted, then what? Someone shouldn’t have to drop everything and stay home to take care of their kid. Some people have well paying careers they can’t abandon, some people are working hard just to make ends meet. The issue isn’t parents being unable to stay home 24/7.
As a career Nanny that's a load of shit! You would wipe out the childcare industry and set women's lib back a hundred years? For what? Your opinion is utter ridiculousness. Please don't breed.
Nobody would have children if that was the case. Though I agree leaving a child with a non familial teen (who is a child themselves) is irresponsible.
She felt good taking her frustrations out on an innocent baby??? What a punk!!!! Hope those prison women had fun with her!
Did you even watch the documentary?
@@MrsJiiJing She clearly didn't
What frustrations Jazmyn? There was no evidence that the girl was in any way upset or angry. There was no evidence other than a now discredited theory. Can you imagine being wrongfully accused of something you didn’t do? Imagine that no matter how you tried to tell the cops, and the prosecutors what happened they just don’t believe you because some person who claims to be an “expert” has said it had to be you. You know it’s a lie, but no one listens to you. You’re a vicious criminal and the expert is an EXPERT. You’re 18, innocent and in jail. You picturing it? Now imagine the inmates coming for you to have their “fun”. No one knows what happened to that baby because a proper investigation was not done - because the “expert” diagnosis was believed straight away. That doctor himself is in this film stating that he was wrong.
THE BABY DIED OF A HEAD INJURY FROM DAYS BEFORE LOUISE WAS BABYSITTING !!!!! SHAKING WAS RULED OUT BY THE MAN WHO DID THE AUTOPSY
SO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT