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    Marvel Phase 4 Deleted Scenes
    A look at some scenes from the latest MCU movies and tv shows, like Wakanda Forever, Loki, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Spider-Man No Way Home, and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, had they gone just a bit different
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    Jeff Torres - Namor
    instagr.am/iamjefftorres
    Victor Manso - Lieutenant Bob
    / victor_thestoryweaver
    Scarlet Sheppard - Scarlet Witch (Wanda Maximoff), Politician 2
    instagr.am/scarletsheppard
    Chris Watson - Captain America (Sam Wilson)
    instagr.am/christophermychael...
    Jon Bailey - J Jonah Jameson
    instagr.am/epicvoiceguy
    Alex Walker Smith - Owen Wilson (VO)
    / alexwalkersmith
    Michael Adams Davis - TVA Agent, Doctor Strange
    David Odom - Politician 1
    Brian Fisher - Martin Starr
    Written by Michael Adams Davis and Michael Schroeder
    Directed by Michael Schroeder
    Produced by Brian Fisher and David Odom
    VFX by Richard Cabrera of Romthirty VFX - www.romthirty.com
    Edited by Julian Higgins
    Cinematography by Kevin Castro
    Grip/Gaffer - Andrew Gaul
    Makeup by Mel Aksamit
    A Warp Media Production 2022
    www.warpmedia.com
    0:00 - Intro
    0:03 - Wakanda Forever
    1:30 - Loki
    3:28 - Falcon and the Winter Soldier
    5:08 - Spider-man No Way Home
    6:53 - Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
    9:33 - Bloopers
    #marvel #mcu #marvelstudios
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  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 Před rokem +5867

    MCU Phase 4 is like taking random side quests after completing the main campaign.

    • @ChrisSmith-tu9bu
      @ChrisSmith-tu9bu Před rokem +259

      Its not even their B material its like the scripts that got rejected a hundred times but got made because Disney just wanted content released on a monthly basis

    • @nathanieldiaz5254
      @nathanieldiaz5254 Před rokem +109

      @@ChrisSmith-tu9bu That can't be said about NWH, Wakanda Forever or Shang-Chi. Most of the others however....

    • @contentcorsair
      @contentcorsair Před rokem +35

      It's more like thinking you were starting the campaign, finding out it was a false start (WV), THEN starting it (Loki), but continually getting side-tracked

    • @nathanieldiaz5254
      @nathanieldiaz5254 Před rokem +44

      @@contentcorsair Loki is 100% skippable. That ending has had no impact on any MCU films. The whole concept and rules of the TVA are established and changed because of Kang in the same show so you can skip Loki and miss nothing.

    • @kaine8911
      @kaine8911 Před rokem +3

      Not really, could you explain?

  • @teigannyman196
    @teigannyman196 Před rokem +768

    Can we all appreciate Jon Bailey's J.J. Jameson voice? It's perfect!!

  • @cameo178
    @cameo178 Před rokem +2194

    I think the movie mentioned that the corruption of the Darkhold was partially to blame for Wanda's irrationality, but I think they should have put more into showing her mental deterioration than the quick post credit scene of wandavision.

    • @clarkstrange2142
      @clarkstrange2142 Před rokem +68

      This 100%

    • @alexthekitsune8740
      @alexthekitsune8740 Před rokem +121

      Yeah plus they mention the darkholds author Cthon, the origin of Wanda’s chaos magic. If they added him like he’s a whisper in Wanda’s head to go further and ignore all reason like in Midnight Suns it would have been interesting

    • @RealLifeIronMan
      @RealLifeIronMan Před rokem +57

      I've always hated the trope of character A is literally low IQ because the plot requires it. It is forgivable if this the first time the character has appeared and part of there character is being a literal idiot, but if the character is established to have a functioning brain and you use a plot device to make them dumb, all so the plot can happen, then you've lost me.

    • @kapoorhouseATL
      @kapoorhouseATL Před rokem +3

      fr

    • @lunamartin6283
      @lunamartin6283 Před rokem +24

      Before this film, Agents of Shield showed exactly how exactly darkhold corrupts everyone who reads it. I think the audience who has watched that show would get it easily on why Wanda went crazy, compared to those who haven't.

  • @sinebachrenleff847
    @sinebachrenleff847 Před rokem +799

    The Loki deleted scene was so well done! Loved it!

    • @M1ckTheMan
      @M1ckTheMan Před rokem +22

      Its my legit headcanon for TVA agents.

  • @torpedex4600
    @torpedex4600 Před rokem +1420

    the falcon winter soldier scene was incredibly valid

    • @matthewbosco9190
      @matthewbosco9190 Před rokem +152

      They called his bluff I love it

    • @AgentsingleO
      @AgentsingleO Před rokem +91

      Just remember do less bad🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @dustovia
      @dustovia Před rokem +24

      Man with a system but sadly very complicated of who do what

    • @gerstein03
      @gerstein03 Před rokem +181

      "We're open to suggestions we just need more to go on than vague platitudes"
      Fucking savage

    • @allnamesaretakenful
      @allnamesaretakenful Před rokem

      No, it isn't. Those in power only care about keeping the Status Quo.

  • @najhoant
    @najhoant Před rokem +774

    I like that the solution to Wanda’s problem was to pull a Rick & Morty and take the place of another timeline version of herself who died at the right time. You’d think a screenwriter who also worked on the show would at least point out the option, but somehow that didn’t happen

    • @cunningsmile4166
      @cunningsmile4166 Před rokem +20

      Rubba dub dub

    • @ArvinDelRosario
      @ArvinDelRosario Před rokem +17

      But Wanda going to another Universe that isn't her own puts both her universe and that universe at risk of an incursion. Travelling to another universe was never an option to begin with. When two realities clash, it will cause an incursion. Only beings that don't exist in different realities can travel the multiverse without causing an incursion.

    • @copperdaylight
      @copperdaylight Před rokem +19

      ​@@ArvinDelRosario all the more interesting to watch though... Plus, it would make kahn the conqueror debut and the tsa tie in nicely to the cinematic world.

    • @fullestauto8912
      @fullestauto8912 Před rokem +14

      @@ArvinDelRosario A) Strange did not know that at that point.
      B) Wanda did not know that at that point.
      C) Gamora and the dust of everyone else from 2014 seems to be doing just fine.

    • @Devil-yo7og
      @Devil-yo7og Před rokem +4

      @@fullestauto8912 the 2014 Gamora is fine because she’s an alternate timeline version of herself for her to cause an incursion she would have to be from another universe

  • @noemichaelnebrida4046
    @noemichaelnebrida4046 Před rokem +1348

    Just here for Wanda's scene. Also a shout out for whoever the actress portraying her there! 10/10 and you did our great mother proud!

    • @pizzasoup
      @pizzasoup Před rokem +17

      dear god

    • @ThatAnArchyDude
      @ThatAnArchyDude Před rokem +61

      Same.
      Her plan really WAS that DUMB, and the crisis really was THAT easily solvable.
      😂

    • @PurooRoy
      @PurooRoy Před rokem +14

      Her name is Scarlet Sheppard.

    • @csquared84
      @csquared84 Před rokem +10

      That there is Scarlet Sheppard. An amazing actress, and an amazing person.

    • @mar.s6516
      @mar.s6516 Před rokem +5

      Yep was saying same for ages (whole "plan"), even had few ideas how to fix some issues - it boggles the mind how professional paid writers of this huge franchise can be so blind ?!?

  • @TommyTallNose
    @TommyTallNose Před rokem +132

    As much as I like Spider-Man: No Way Home, there was TONS of different ways that not only could Peter have handled his problem, but better ways Strange could've helped out.

    • @fireant202
      @fireant202 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Yeah Strange was definitely not being the adult in the room he needed to be.

    • @Hei_Darkfire
      @Hei_Darkfire Před 5 měsíci

      I didn't understand why they just didn't do the original spell. It could have still worked and let Peter reveal his identity to the people who knew him before.

  • @christiannotch2689
    @christiannotch2689 Před rokem +503

    This was an amazing video, you guys have been killing it. Having nothing to do with that, does it bother anyone else that in Multiverse of Madness Wanda mentions her kids, but ignores vision. I mean at the end of the show she clearly wasn't over his death. Yet come that movie she is searching the multiverse for her kids but chooses one of infinite where her husband doesn't exist and doesn't even entertain the notion of finding him again

    • @TheWarpZone
      @TheWarpZone  Před rokem +246

      Paul Bettany was probably more expensive than the two child actors and their love of ice cream.

    • @simon_lukas
      @simon_lukas Před rokem +8

      Well, they like ice cream like every child should...

    • @yaminogame
      @yaminogame Před rokem +9

      I thought about that too but the children would be easier to fool then the husband. If they made the switch he would probably feel something is off. Not to mention she would not know their living situation off the bat. There would quite the adjustment period. But who knows, by the time they even find the “perfect” universe, Wanda would hopefully mellow out by then and maybe just not even worry about it

    • @anonymousproductionsxd2912
      @anonymousproductionsxd2912 Před rokem +4

      I mean your right but she only mentions him once when she confronts Doctor Strange at Kamar taj.

    • @simon_lukas
      @simon_lukas Před rokem +5

      @@yaminogame I don't know why anyone has to be "fooled". The guardians didn't seem to mind that they suddenly got a Gamorra from a different timeline... For all we know it's a nearly exact copy.

  • @Valkyreon
    @Valkyreon Před rokem +315

    Thank you for pointing out these plotholes!
    The whole "A universe where Wanda's kids are orphans"-option has bugged me since I've watched the movie, it's just so obvious!
    It's just like when Thanos decided to reduce the overall population of the universe instead of just giving people enough ressources.
    They didn't do themselves any favors with the snap, especially when they intend to reveal other secret races or societies. It would be helpful to at least hear or see how Namor dealt with the Snap and the Blip.

    • @no.1spidey-fan182
      @no.1spidey-fan182 Před rokem

      More resources doesnt stop the lack of resources problem neither does halving the people. Cause of the simple fact tbat humans SUCK so people are gonna end up hoarding and taking too much

    • @joelmole3157
      @joelmole3157 Před rokem +11

      At least in Wanda's case, she... was not right in the head. She was corrupted by an evil book and mad with grief. You can allow for human error in times like this.

    • @darrenkey207
      @darrenkey207 Před rokem +9

      These aren't potholes; they're flaws in the character's thinking. Flaws that were intentionally written

    • @darrenkey207
      @darrenkey207 Před rokem +3

      @ty775 the directors said that the only reason Thanos didn't double the resources was because he didn't want to. He was dead set on proving that his kill half the population plan would have worked

    • @Valkyreon
      @Valkyreon Před rokem +28

      @@darrenkey207
      I consider it a plothole that they didn't even bring these obvious solutions up. Sometimes it's about being transparent as a writer, to include and deconstruct obvious solutions and explain why they wouldn't work - just to show the audience that you as a writer are aware of it. Just throw in two lines.
      Iron Man: "Why not just... double the resources? You can do anything with these stones, can't you?"
      Thanos: "And then what? The greedy will become greedier, the poor will have even less. True balance can only be achieved if all are treated in the same way."
      Or regarding Wanda, especially after they established that the Multiverse is basically endless with countless possibilities:
      Strange: "Have you considered that there might be a reality were your children are alive, but you're not? Where they could be in dire need of a mother?"
      Wanda: "Of course I did, that was my first instinct! But the Multiverse is vast, Strange, even bigger than you or I can imagine. Millions of possibilities, so many realities, where I don't even HAVE children! But then, my dreams led me to my sons! I'm not letting this opportunity fade away."

  • @Jack-sy8mr
    @Jack-sy8mr Před rokem +102

    “That plan is super evil, and super stupid, now if it was revealed that some evil demon guy was manipulating you for his own evil ends that would make way more sense”

    • @jelita_
      @jelita_ Před rokem +14

      Memphisto spotted 😈

    • @101Draico
      @101Draico Před rokem +4

      Wasn’t she technically being manipulated and corrupted by the Dark Hold?

    • @deadplthebadass21
      @deadplthebadass21 Před rokem +2

      ​@@101Draico well the Dark Hold was made by Mephisto in the comics so, kinda works

  • @KingOfMadCows
    @KingOfMadCows Před rokem +425

    The problem with infinite universes is that it can potentially take an infinite amount of time to find the universe you want.

    • @Seastallion
      @Seastallion Před rokem +56

      I suppose that depends upon whether or not Chavez's powers can link to alternate universes based specified parameters.

    • @KingOfMadCows
      @KingOfMadCows Před rokem +68

      @@Seastallion maybe they'll get lucky and find a universe with a multiversal search engine.

    • @Niki_Schreiber
      @Niki_Schreiber Před rokem +20

      @@KingOfMadCows That was the first universe that Wanda found in the movie. They could even say from which Universe Dr Strange came after he escaped with america from Wanda

    • @JayStorm199
      @JayStorm199 Před rokem +20

      It's implied America goes to a universe she needs like free food universes

    • @mcstuffy
      @mcstuffy Před rokem +8

      just like with netflix, infinite shows but near infinite time to actually browse and not watching lmao

  • @bigreaderpike
    @bigreaderpike Před rokem +264

    This exposes the big flaw of the Falcon in the Winter Soldier ending. And the sad thing about the doctor strange 2 thing with Wanda is it's true.

    • @SB-ki3jw
      @SB-ki3jw Před rokem +9

      Be better

    • @user-xx6vy9ri8p
      @user-xx6vy9ri8p Před rokem +26

      The entire Phase 4 is one big flaw.

    • @darrenkey207
      @darrenkey207 Před rokem +18

      It wasn't a flaw. Sam isn't supposed to do their jobs for them. He's busy fighting Super Soldiers, terrorists and Aliens. All while being denied bank loans and being racially profiled. I'm sure it's enough of them to sit down and strategize. Why were they just sitting on a building full of food and supplies anyway?

    • @darrenkey207
      @darrenkey207 Před rokem +3

      @@user-xx6vy9ri8p if you agree with the this I question your judgment

    • @byronrush9802
      @byronrush9802 Před rokem

      @@darrenkey207 exactly the situation is more complicated than that and saying do better is an empty platitude, just because you have a lot of resources does not mean you have to share it across the world Even with the power of the world nations combined they still can't feed everyone in the world, someone's going to go hungry someone's needs are not going to be me, fast food restaurants public schools and colleges throw away thousands of dollars worth of food away everyday that could be given to the homeless for the simple excuse they might get sick they are eating garbage they have the strongest stomachs on the planet

  • @danieldishon688
    @danieldishon688 Před rokem +145

    Wanda said she had to kill Chevez so she would always have her powers, just in case her kids got sick and she needed to go find new ones again.

    • @The_Patbey
      @The_Patbey Před rokem +41

      find an universe where people can't get sick, easy

    • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
      @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu Před rokem +15

      @@The_Patbey in an infinite amount of them you could theorically search forever and never find the one you seek

    • @Wolfman7870
      @Wolfman7870 Před rokem +35

      That's really dumb logic to justify a stupid plot.

    • @The_Patbey
      @The_Patbey Před rokem +11

      @@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu considering how small the chance is that she finds a reality where earth even exists and her kids are just like Tommy and Billy, I guess its possible to specify a little further

    • @potatoexe5410
      @potatoexe5410 Před rokem +26

      That's still a dumb reason. She could simply also adopt Chavez and train her to properly use her powers. That way Chavez gets a home while Wanda gets a daughter as well as have her powers on hand at all times. There's also the option of finding a way to take her powers without killing her or study her powers to create a spell that can replicate her dimensional hopping.

  • @adrianrenteria4229
    @adrianrenteria4229 Před rokem +157

    The multiverse of madness one makes a hell of a lot of sense

    • @skinder124
      @skinder124 Před rokem +19

      surprised he didn't mention finding a universe that ALSO has Vision alive and well lol

    • @adrianrenteria4229
      @adrianrenteria4229 Před rokem +9

      @@skinder124 marvel got some explaining to do

    • @skinder124
      @skinder124 Před rokem +13

      @@adrianrenteria4229 the original plan was to use that movie to build up wanda to become a villain, but the director decided he wanted to "play with the character" instead. They stopped seeing them as characters and more like action figures

    • @adrianrenteria4229
      @adrianrenteria4229 Před rokem +1

      @@skinder124 that's messed up. Ik these are comic characters but their still characters that some people enjoy

    • @mackenziehunter4593
      @mackenziehunter4593 Před rokem +1

      Except she was corrupted by the Darkhold. Thinking rationally was tossed out the window a long time ago.

  • @milkiassamuel780
    @milkiassamuel780 Před rokem +1013

    Honestly, you bring up a good point about Namor, you would think he would've made his presence known to the surface world during the Snap since he clearly is devoted to his people and since he wasn't much of a rational person and still holds a hatred to the colonisation of his people, you'd think he would've jumped the shark (pun intended) and blame the surface world and probably gone to war during the 5-year gap considering half of the people of Talochan must've gotten dusted. I mean we all saw what he did to Wakanda after Nakia unintentionally killed a Talochanian, Namor would've gone ballistic on the surface world.
    BTW Namor was such a fantastic antagonist and Tenoch Huerta killed it.

    • @nathanieldiaz5254
      @nathanieldiaz5254 Před rokem +75

      Except that Namor would have no way of knowing the reason why his people got snapped. I doubt people at Talokan watch the news and if they did they would easily expose themselves.

    • @milkiassamuel780
      @milkiassamuel780 Před rokem +59

      Fair point. But then again we saw in the film how impulsive Namor is when it come to safety and security of his people nd I imagine watching half of your entire civilisation fade away must've been traumatic and lead to him seeking some kind of answers to seek closure. In fact I could imagine that Namor could've in fact sent small scouts out to find answers yet keep a discrete profile without thr surface world noticing them as they are proven to be quite a stealthy civilisation, sneaking up on the oil rig in the film, in addition to having technology for occasions when they would have to arise out of the oceans for decades. Surely some scouts could've informed Namor of how this was a worldwide situation and some means of gaining information could've doable thus could've lead to Namor making his presence known to the world. I'm not trying to be negative in any way it just seems like funny plot hole to point that sounds quite intriguing to have seen. But I digress.

    • @adam-dn3hi
      @adam-dn3hi Před rokem +10

      I disagree
      There is no way that out of the entire universe half of talocan was killed
      At fucking best maybe 1 died

    • @milkiassamuel780
      @milkiassamuel780 Před rokem +19

      You do have a point, and at the bare minimum I could've imagined at least 5% of Talochan's population must've gotten dusted as it is a major civilisation with who knows how much of an empire they have below the sea. But then again considering Namor quite literally flooded Wakanda and murdered hundreds of people, including the Queen herself, all just as a warning for the fact that one Wakandan inadvertently killed a single member of Namor's people, only makes me imagine how even more hostile and relentless Namor could've been hhad he gone to war with the surface world as even if he didn't know it was Thanos's doing, Namor is clearly an irrational person when it comes to the safety of his people and would kill hundreds for the death of one Talochanian, thus he could've killed thousands even millions out of pure grief, anger and bolted up rage against the action of colonisers fron the past and putting said hatred towards the surface world, which would've been likely to happen during rhe 5 year gap.

    • @TheWarmachine375
      @TheWarmachine375 Před rokem +15

      @@adam-dn3hi Thanos' Snap spares no one when turning half of the universe's populations into dust.

  • @memerminecraft585
    @memerminecraft585 Před rokem +101

    The Namor thing is applicable to, like, every secret group or independent entity that gets revealed in the MCU after Thanos. They all should have both cared and been involved.
    I will say that a lot of people tend to overlook something in the Wanda-Strange conversation; he suggests working with America in the actual movie. She shuts it down with an (albeit irrational) argument that she needs the power so that she can travel across the multiverse to find the cure to anything that might ever happen to her children. The bottom line is that she's gone mad, not that she's actually come up with a "reasonable" (her word) plan.

  • @ashleytuchin7693
    @ashleytuchin7693 Před rokem +20

    I love these, they're all so valid! The "be better" speech is a personal peeve of mine.

  • @jonmc131
    @jonmc131 Před rokem +138

    OMG!!! Loved this!!! Jeff's Namor was pretty impressive!!! Loved the Scarlet Witch scenes!!!! This was just pretty incredible!!! Well done to all involved!!

  • @claytonrios1
    @claytonrios1 Před rokem +63

    If these were actual deleted scenes I wouldn't be surprised given the quality of Phase 4.

  • @f2pkrdecade
    @f2pkrdecade Před rokem +49

    The problem with MCU phase 4 is mainly the bad writing, plot holes and weak villains (also the declining quality of VFX due to poor planning and overwork of VFX artists), unlike some people who defended them by just saying they are setups for phase 5 or some are experiments, which do NOT offset these flaws at all.

    • @chalkywhite2598
      @chalkywhite2598 Před rokem +3

      You are kidding right, phase 1-3 were filled with plot holes

    • @peterparker9954
      @peterparker9954 Před rokem +2

      And woke agenda

    • @peterparker9954
      @peterparker9954 Před rokem +3

      ​@@chalkywhite2598not as many as phase 4

    • @chalkywhite2598
      @chalkywhite2598 Před rokem

      @@peterparker9954 yeah that’s not true at all. All movies in phase 4 out earned phase 1 films. It’s not even close

    • @chalkywhite2598
      @chalkywhite2598 Před rokem

      @@peterparker9954 there is no such thing as a woke agenda. Only racists use that term

  • @thetruesora
    @thetruesora Před rokem +173

    Multiverse of Madness did try and cover it somewhat with "Wanda believes she needs the power herself so that if some other problem came up like her kids got sick she'd be able to just go to a universe where there's a cure" but that feels like it was something thrown in late like "eh sure that all makes sense now"

    • @Niki_Schreiber
      @Niki_Schreiber Před rokem +21

      And that could easily be answered by just asking America to bring her and her children to a universe with the cure

    • @raahim11
      @raahim11 Před rokem +27

      exactly. Like she just told a guy "What mouth?" and straight up erased it. She is not facing any issues with her kids getting an uncurable disease or the likes.

    • @Koza6969
      @Koza6969 Před rokem +8

      "cool motive, still murder"

    • @TvReferences
      @TvReferences Před rokem +4

      Feel like any inconsistencies can be put under the darkhold is affecting her mind and making her crazy and irrational, kinda lazy but makes sense

    • @jamalhartley5863
      @jamalhartley5863 Před rokem +9

      They make it seem like the dark hold was corrupting her but it's literally destroyed in the movie.
      Not to mention the movie spits in the face of WandaVision which was all about Wanda coming to terms with her grief. She was set up to grow as a person. It was real tonal whiplash what they did with her.

  • @faisalakhtar3394
    @faisalakhtar3394 Před rokem +74

    For FATWS, the senator should have said "didn't she use violence and threats for political gains? Making people afraid and feel categorised in the process? This is literally the definition of terrorism."

    • @chocofro3
      @chocofro3 Před rokem +2

      It's also what people who have been called heroes in history have done to free or progress a group of people. So Falcon's points regarding that are still valid. She wasn't doing it for malicious purposes or to just cause terror.

    • @6thgraderfriends
      @6thgraderfriends Před 6 měsíci

      Didn't she blow a bunch of people up to get her point across? Hey, definition of terrorism right there.

  • @EvieRawlings
    @EvieRawlings Před rokem +636

    The Falcon and the Winter Soldier made me so happy. That monologue always pissed me off.
    These people are ACTUALLY trying. Sure they're not perfect but they're in a no win situation. Someone is always going to get hurt.
    I'm sorry Cap but you can't just yell at these people to "do better" when you don't have any ideas yourself.

    • @ashleytuchin7693
      @ashleytuchin7693 Před rokem +75

      My friend and I are always making fun of that speech.

    • @ShadeSlayer1911
      @ShadeSlayer1911 Před rokem +87

      I love Sam as a character, but that was a godawful speech indeed. It is just so...empty.

    • @josephnewsome2935
      @josephnewsome2935 Před rokem +57

      And wakanda isn’t called out for hoarding it’s resources

    • @captaineri.223
      @captaineri.223 Před rokem +7

      Merely n assumption

    • @ShadeSlayer1911
      @ShadeSlayer1911 Před rokem +40

      @@josephnewsome2935 hypocrisy is all over phase 4. I'm sure the precious phases had it too, but it's all the more noticeable and in your face in phase 4. Heck, I'm noticing it and I'm not even watching any of it. That's how in your face it is.

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105
    @thefanwithoutaface8105 Před rokem +35

    Really says a lot when early Marvel movies, even if thye had plot holes they weren't distractingly huge like the ones we have to deal with now.

    • @nathanieldiaz5254
      @nathanieldiaz5254 Před rokem +1

      The No Way Home one and Wakanda Forever ones are innacurate (I know the video addressed the extended cut but still makes it innacurate).

    • @raahim11
      @raahim11 Před rokem +2

      @@nathanieldiaz5254 not really. NO WAY HOME Plot hole is valid. There was no mention of data and Videos being erased. Especially considering he managed to rent an apartment afterwards, which requires as ID and stuff. I love NWH, but the movie is Fanservice 1st, Plot 2nd.

    • @mackenziehunter4593
      @mackenziehunter4593 Před rokem

      @@raahim11 And there's no way anyone can get a new identity?

    • @nathanieldiaz5254
      @nathanieldiaz5254 Před rokem +2

      @@raahim11 The post credit scene shows that only evidence of Peter existing that was open to the public was erased. All his personal items were safe. And no the movie is character first even though fan service (done right) is a big part of it.

    • @raahim11
      @raahim11 Před rokem +2

      ​@@mackenziehunter4593 Then mention that facr in the Movie. Or else it is Headcanon. There is literally no mention of him forging his new identity. also, again, No mention of Video, Books, news etc data being deleted by the spell

  • @anonymousproductionsxd2912

    Jon Bailey as J Jonah Jameson = Incredible Performance/ Perfect casting.

  • @jeremyusreevu237
    @jeremyusreevu237 Před rokem +25

    The Multiverse Of Madness one was spot on. Like, that movie had so many collosal plotholes it was just astounding. The fact that there are actually people out there who think that plotholes don't matter and that being concerned about the logic of a film is for killjoys just pisses me off.

  • @mikeprice7124
    @mikeprice7124 Před rokem +33

    Yeah. Wanda literally could’ve worked with America to find her parents while searching for a reality where Vision and her kids live w/o her.

    • @pse2020
      @pse2020 Před rokem

      Or just get kids. Or did they mention she cant get kids?

  • @Spxctor_Tapes
    @Spxctor_Tapes Před rokem +31

    I like how captain America just ran away even though he has wings

  • @prestigiorebelde
    @prestigiorebelde Před rokem +49

    The no way home was not a plot hole. As soon as the movie was released the authors were asked about it, and they said they were debating on whether to show how it erases memories from social media and the book and everything but didn’t because they wanted to focus the end the movie on an emotional tone. That was long before they added the scene in the extended cut.

    • @blackhand441
      @blackhand441 Před rokem +14

      Author statement after the fact don't mean squat tho 🤨

    • @DannyLee-zv9gl
      @DannyLee-zv9gl Před rokem +5

      @@blackhand441 it does tho plus it was a delete sense so yes if that made it does matter

    • @blackhand441
      @blackhand441 Před rokem +10

      @@DannyLee-zv9gl so JK Rowling wakes up and says all of Harry Potter was dreamt up by a mouse in a subway station and it automatically becomes fact ? If it wasn't in the movie then it doesn't mean squat. Sure supplementary information can come later but that doesn't make it any less of a plot hole.

    • @IRMentat
      @IRMentat Před rokem

      @@DannyLee-zv9gl here’s the thing. If you delete it then add it back in to a version a fraction of the audience will ever see then it’s not relevant.
      It’s like Disney-wars where the imps are running then loosing then winning them loosing despite the only organised forces against them apparently being a squadron of I-can’t -believe-it’s-not-an-xwing one dropship and a few VERY sociopathic leaders who think a 99.99% attrition rate is just fine so don’t question orders and obey your betters.

    • @szalonykon
      @szalonykon Před rokem +15

      For me it was obvious that spell worked that way that it changed everything including social media, videos and basically everything that would remind anyone of Peter Parker. There is no plot hole here, just fan weird limitation on spell.

  • @sampigg7933
    @sampigg7933 Před rokem +43

    So glad someone points out all the nonsense in phase 4!

    • @Raximus3000
      @Raximus3000 Před rokem +7

      They just scratched the surface.

    • @samcochran8203
      @samcochran8203 Před rokem +3

      They just carved off the bare minimum tip of that iceberg that is the nonsensical phase 4 to the titanic that is the mcu

  • @RealCFZ
    @RealCFZ Před rokem +35

    1:26 …… Namor…
    YOU’RE UNDERWATER!

  • @jasonfrost6947
    @jasonfrost6947 Před rokem +22

    MoM scene is truly masterful.

  • @TheUnnbreakable
    @TheUnnbreakable Před rokem +47

    I like how they marked the exact moment FalconWinter soldier went from very watchable with a few dumb scenes to what are they doing to Cap. Also his custom needs to look better for the movies the wings look dumb.

  • @Darkbeast42
    @Darkbeast42 Před rokem +64

    I wouldn't call the No Way Home part a plot hole, I always assumed that the physical evidence had just been altered to exclude "Peter Parker".

    • @lilcory2000
      @lilcory2000 Před rokem +9

      fan boys hate the ending because spiderman stories are not supposed to have happy endings

    • @Darkbeast42
      @Darkbeast42 Před rokem +9

      @@lilcory2000 really? Most of the Spider-Man stories I've seen have sad endings. He'll typically break up with his love interest or someone close to him will die, sometimes both. Being miserable is kind of key part of Peter's character.

    • @lilcory2000
      @lilcory2000 Před rokem +2

      @@Darkbeast42 ho that's why people are mad that makes more sense and makes me more confused about why poeple not like the ending?? Peter hot his ass handed to him left and right for doing the right thing

    • @erosgarcia6284
      @erosgarcia6284 Před rokem +1

      Yes, they added a new post credit scene in the extended version to clarify this .

    • @EpicMan-ci7jf
      @EpicMan-ci7jf Před rokem +1

      It was also mentioned in Doctor Strange 2, when he said they had a recent entaglement with Spider-Man.

  • @fortunelekoto6704
    @fortunelekoto6704 Před rokem +14

    I could totally buy this as offical MCU deleted scenes

  • @mcruz4571
    @mcruz4571 Před rokem +154

    This Namor is in better physical shape than the one in the movie...

    • @federerlkonig330
      @federerlkonig330 Před rokem +28

      I was tempted to Say that. Tenoch has a overall pleasant shape(Just, while other duperherors are ripped as hell, Tenoch was toned and approachable), but this One has a far more sculpted chest.

    • @Kevoooth
      @Kevoooth Před rokem +2

      He was better

    • @robertmiles1888
      @robertmiles1888 Před rokem +11

      They just have different body shapes. Movies etc have been favoring the more "triangle" (mesomotph) shape over the "round" one. He was/is just as fit.

    • @s.ai.3865
      @s.ai.3865 Před rokem +12

      No offense to this Namor actor but Tenoch’s body is the better one tbh, his physique looks strong and not dehydrated.

    • @JUANxxTNAFAN
      @JUANxxTNAFAN Před rokem +3

      L take that’s probably from somebody that knows nothing about different body types!

  • @lesdyxiatoo
    @lesdyxiatoo Před rokem +21

    Damn. Now I’m wishing they’d made Wanda more complex in MoM.
    I’m imagining a movie where she doesn’t want to kill Chavez but instead kidnaps her and forces her to take her to every universe until she finds one that she’s satisfied with. It also could’ve been interesting to see Strange and Wong travel through every universe to track them down so we could’ve still gotten the new characters and worlds and same hijinks/horrors but more refined and nuanced. It could’ve been interesting to see Wanda find herself unexpectedly bonding with Chavez during all this and through that heal the trauma of losing her children, maybe she even makes peace with the sad truth she never really had kids and decides to mentor Chavez but then it’s revealed they might have found a universe with her boys in it. I’m not sure who the “villain” would be in this version but I just think it would’ve been more complex than…what happened.

    • @motor4X4kombat
      @motor4X4kombat Před rokem +4

      they should have went with the captain america and the winter soldier route that insted of making wanda the villain he becomes an ally to doctor strange and theyre both agaist a menace that challenge them in their character grow, plus they can actually do shit with mordo since his plot line went no where at this point

    • @lesdyxiatoo
      @lesdyxiatoo Před rokem

      @@motor4X4kombat ooh, that would’ve been cool too

    • @peterparker9954
      @peterparker9954 Před rokem

      Filmento has fixed the bad writing of MoM

    • @peterparker9954
      @peterparker9954 Před rokem +1

      Kingpin in Into the Spiderverse did it really well .... He forced the scientists in his facility to build a collider to find his wife and son in a parallel universe.... That was amazing.... That film was incredibly well written
      MoM is just TRASH

  • @Mr.Quackerjack
    @Mr.Quackerjack Před rokem +31

    What a hilarious video, top-notch performances from everyone involved, including Jon Bailey as JJ. Speaking of which, now that Jon is the new voice of Grapefruit on Annoying Orange, maybe we’ll be seeing The Warp Scone visit the kitchen in the near future? Davis as Danish, Schroeder as Schronut, Brian as Fishcake, Odom as Oatdom, and Ryan as Rye-Bun. How awesome would that be?

  • @JemarcAxinto
    @JemarcAxinto Před rokem +11

    Davis as Dr. Strange is really doing it for me not gonna lie

  • @tiago9977
    @tiago9977 Před rokem +6

    6:44 I wouldn't consider it a plot hole tbh, they just didn't explain it in detail.
    I had already assumed Doctor Strange's spell would affect physical evidence of his existence anyway, I was just prepared to wait for them to show us the extent of it in Spidey's next film.

  • @thembanitheone
    @thembanitheone Před rokem +11

    Namor... is CUT. Gahdayumn.💎

  • @nathanieldiaz5254
    @nathanieldiaz5254 Před rokem +78

    This was one of your funniest videos yet but here are my thoughts:
    There's no way Namor and his people could've known about Thanos' motivation to wipe out half of all life even if they somehow knew that Thanos was coming to Earth.
    You already pointed out that Marvel fixed the plot hole of No Way Home with the extended cut so I'll just say that the part was funny even if it was innacurate.

    • @mikaelste-marie1275
      @mikaelste-marie1275 Před rokem +3

      How did they fix the No way home plot hole ? I only watch the first cut.

    • @nathanieldiaz5254
      @nathanieldiaz5254 Před rokem +9

      @@mikaelste-marie1275 The explained that the spell didn't just erase everyone's memory but also all evidence of Peter's existance.

    • @corruptangel6793
      @corruptangel6793 Před rokem +28

      @@nathanieldiaz5254 which begs the question: how did he restart his life, let alone do so so quickly? He has no money, no ID, birth certificate, nothing from his home (such as clothes) he quite literally had to start over with what he had on his back at the time: his suit.
      Also that contradicts the actual spell. Forgetting about somone and erasing physical evidence of that person are two VERY different things. And that's not even getting into the amount of causality rewrites needed to repair the ripple effects Peter had on the world.
      In other words, they committed the dreaded double fuck up. They made a plot hole to try and fix a plot hole.

    • @nathanieldiaz5254
      @nathanieldiaz5254 Před rokem +8

      @@corruptangel6793 I misphrased it the first time. The post credit scene showed that only evidence of Peter's existance that was known and open to the public was erased. So stuff like his personal items wouldn't have gotten erased. And it's very easy to assume that Strange just did a double spell it's not far fetched.

    • @Fade24011
      @Fade24011 Před rokem +5

      @@nathanieldiaz5254 That just sounds even more far fetched

  • @dshock85
    @dshock85 Před rokem +7

    This is why I think they screwed phase 4 up with not having Mephisto or Nightmare released from the actions of Loki. They should have been the ones manipulating Wanda and blinding her. Ironically in the same way she manipulated Stark. Using her to go after America Chavez for themselves. The spell going wrong in No Way Home should have been as well directly linked to Loki killing He Who Remains, been released before Multiverse of Madness and featured America Chavez like it was originally intended. Basically the end of Loki should have been the main catalyst kicking off the events of phase 4, you get No Way Home building into Multiverse of Madness and then linking to Quantumania with Casey secretly exploring the quantum realm and being kidnapped.

  • @dellcoc
    @dellcoc Před rokem +4

    Namor is the only one in Talokan with pointed ears.

  • @jorgegfigueroa9755
    @jorgegfigueroa9755 Před rokem +7

    With how deep you dove with Multiverse of Madness, I'd go insane over how you'd fix Love and Thunder

  • @thembanitheone
    @thembanitheone Před rokem +23

    I absolutely love Sam-Cap... but the FATWS writers turned him into A-train with that "Do Better" speech 😂

    • @ChrisSmith-tu9bu
      @ChrisSmith-tu9bu Před rokem +3

      YEP

    • @nathanieldiaz5254
      @nathanieldiaz5254 Před rokem +2

      What does that have anything to do with A-Train?

    • @ChrisSmith-tu9bu
      @ChrisSmith-tu9bu Před rokem

      Disney is straight up Vought.... like they have no love for women or minorities or ANY marginalized groups BUT they sure will pretend and virtue signal their butts off because thats WAY easier and quicker than actually writing good stories with minorities.... right next to Maeves Wild Ride they should play that dumpster fire of a show She-Hulk

    • @thembanitheone
      @thembanitheone Před rokem +11

      @@nathanieldiaz5254 A-train thinks his status as a top-level hero gives him unique qualifications to weigh in on political tensions. His misguided attempts at using his platform to "preach" solutions come off as tone-deaf at best and disastrous at worst. Energy drink commercial and the Blue Hawk situation as an example.

    • @nathanieldiaz5254
      @nathanieldiaz5254 Před rokem +4

      @@thembanitheone Yeah but that's not Sam. His speech is very flawed but Sam had the best intentions.

  • @optimascrime5235
    @optimascrime5235 Před rokem +12

    The Warp Zone always making comedy Gold,I loved how the Honest Trailer guy had a cameo 😂

  • @2429Ryanspeer
    @2429Ryanspeer Před rokem +16

    Brilliant video warp zone your channel is awesome and I mean that personally you are a fantastic youtube channel thanks for this year's videos and Merry Christmas to all 🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄

  • @triaina_
    @triaina_ Před rokem +6

    Imagine erasing a timeline because a kid picked the wrong pack of gum

    • @jaketaller8567
      @jaketaller8567 Před rokem +2

      What did that pack of gum ever do to you, TVA? Buncha jerks.

  • @wong1030
    @wong1030 Před rokem +8

    9:23
    Strange: What’d you think?
    Wanda: *becomes wandavision mode again*

  • @sunso1991
    @sunso1991 Před rokem +4

    this is not 23% smarter,
    this is 2300% smarter
    🤣🤣🤣

  • @LumenPsycho
    @LumenPsycho Před rokem +3

    Damn, Phase 4 is like they gave the pencil to a kid & let them write whatever.

  • @GeneralPedrowsky
    @GeneralPedrowsky Před rokem +20

    You guys never disappoint this was hilarious lol

  • @TFalconwing
    @TFalconwing Před rokem +7

    the bit with Falcon is basically how I felt after the series ended. It's like they wanted to make a point and just... didn't?

  • @flickyisland
    @flickyisland Před rokem +14

    So where's Davis' Emmy after that one shot monologue?

  • @razarryan2465
    @razarryan2465 Před rokem +8

    Never mind the fact that Wanda could just…have sex…or adopt. And also Nevermind the fact that VISION IS ALIVE SOMEWHERE but she doesn’t seem to care.

    • @zachryder3150
      @zachryder3150 Před rokem +2

      *I volunteer as tribute!*

    • @jlev1028
      @jlev1028 Před rokem

      I heard in some other video that neither Sam Raimi nor the screenwriter watched WandaVision and were only given Cliffnotes.

  • @MDMOBB
    @MDMOBB Před rokem +4

    Love this video hopefully we get more MCU content from you guys

  • @farmerproductions9869
    @farmerproductions9869 Před rokem +8

    About the no way home but; the way more fun edition credits scene seems to have shown the the spell affected physical photos and probably videos as well

    • @farmerproductions9869
      @farmerproductions9869 Před rokem +3

      Didn’t finish the video before posting it

    • @sigmacademy
      @sigmacademy Před rokem

      That makes no sense? The wording of a spell matters - it's almost the same as making a wish - if you word it in a specific way, it WORKS in a specific way. For it to work in that way, you'd have to have Strange have MULTIPLE "spell layers", like in how we saw him add layers to his spell each time Peter changed his mind based on who he wanted to remember him.

  • @lovelaceackah216
    @lovelaceackah216 Před rokem +4

    This is actually more better then most phase 4 content

  • @anionhero
    @anionhero Před rokem +17

    Great job on the video! Although you missed a golden opportunity at the end. Have Dr. Strange convince Wanda of his actually brilliant plan and then have TVA agents come out and erase both of them, shouting "Sacred Timeline!"

    • @abdulazimnaushad
      @abdulazimnaushad Před rokem +1

      Uh bro there is no more Sacred Timeline shit after He Who Remains' death. He clearly said that his death would break open the multiverse and branch out timelines and realities.

  • @galahad6300
    @galahad6300 Před rokem +10

    The annoying thing is that the MCU has these contrivances, but if you think about it for a minute, you can find a better way to execute the plot without contriving it. And it annoys me to no end that these contrivances have either easy fixes or actual improvements to the plot, but rather than fix it, they just left it contrived

  • @ricklotter
    @ricklotter Před rokem +5

    Lol plot holes in comics are a requirement, but the Wanda scene was outstanding.

    • @virginiavanni8061
      @virginiavanni8061 Před rokem

      The problem is that wanda couldn't stay in another universe without ripping the multiverse apart, at least from what I remember from the movie

    • @SeanWheeler100
      @SeanWheeler100 Před rokem

      Wanda should have created another Hex to bring her kids back, but without trapping any people.

  • @Jay-Da-Giant
    @Jay-Da-Giant Před rokem +6

    Now that was hilarious! 😂😂😂😂
    BTW, I hope you can make a Mr. Richards Interviewing the Fantastic Four coming into the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

  • @TheDisneyLover58
    @TheDisneyLover58 Před rokem +3

    1:13 look if we were in comic or have traditional t’Challa. They wouldn’t have even help till thanos came physically. These two were very “every country for themselves”

  • @ShionChosa
    @ShionChosa Před rokem +11

    Does that mean Hulk knew of the people of Telokan and it wasn’t a big secret after the reverse snap? Knowledge of half the universe’s life would have been brain overload so he simply forgot.

    • @darksideofevil13
      @darksideofevil13 Před rokem +1

      He couldn't possibly know everyone he brought back. Just the wish for all life.

  • @hereiamtowreckyourday3330

    "I don't do that" 🤣🤣 now if she just felt that way about murdering innocent variants of herself...

  • @DrianTheGuy
    @DrianTheGuy Před rokem +1

    ive been waiting for a video like this, especially that last bit.

  • @liberpolo5540
    @liberpolo5540 Před rokem +8

    Imagine how great the MCU could be if only a handful of characters acted like mature adults 😅

  • @09cheetahman31
    @09cheetahman31 Před rokem +8

    That post-credit scene happened in the comics. They thought people read the comics.

  • @SuperODST1
    @SuperODST1 Před rokem +2

    5:37, I legit thought that's what they were going to go for, and that like a Flash comic, where the twist is that "everyone" means EVERYONE, so, Spiderman forgets he's Spiderman. That would be a much better movie.

  • @blackmagician7645
    @blackmagician7645 Před rokem +2

    It is funny that Wanda thought of everything to be a mother. Except the obvious solution of having sex.

  • @blackmagician7645
    @blackmagician7645 Před rokem +9

    🤔Good point on Namor and his people. Why didn't they come out of hiding to confront the surface world after like half of their civilization was killed? Or maybe they thought it was unrelated to anything above. And when those who mysteriously parished returned just as mysteriously. Albeit a few years later. They just cut it as breaking even and moved on.

  • @AgentsingleO
    @AgentsingleO Před rokem +5

    "Can I get some water, tap is fine" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @4reeltv
    @4reeltv Před rokem +2

    this was amazingly put together 😂

  • @dopekidrepublic
    @dopekidrepublic Před rokem +2

    Since Hollywood doesn't want to take criticism from guys like Drinker, they should take criticism from The Warp Zone

  • @tenzon975
    @tenzon975 Před rokem +3

    When I was watching Doctor Strange:ITMOM I literally thought the EXACT SAME FUCKING THING, no cap. I was like, "why didn't she just ask America? Also... like if she could go LITERARY to any universe, why not find one where her kids exist but she doesn'"
    Awesomeness

    • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
      @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu Před rokem +1

      Well at least they gave the excuse that she could need the powers to save her children, that will make her need América by her side always, which América obviously wouldn't want cause her own live and problems

  • @762x69
    @762x69 Před rokem +4

    Thats a damn good JJJ impersonation 👍🤙

  • @malindukumaradasa3851
    @malindukumaradasa3851 Před 10 měsíci

    Your cast is just awesome!

  • @SilverConnection
    @SilverConnection Před rokem +2

    Davis looking great in the Doctor Strange outfit. Great video as always!

  • @ifakedthemoonlanding718
    @ifakedthemoonlanding718 Před rokem +17

    phase 4 a mess

  • @James-rm7sr
    @James-rm7sr Před rokem +5

    Thank you so much for this. I had the same thoughts especially Spiderman. I was like um-even say MJ would have had a note or something from a guy named Peter Parker. She would of had a text message from Peter along with his best friend.

  • @esteva03
    @esteva03 Před rokem +2

    Your Namor is more buff than the million dollar one. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @WynneChad
    @WynneChad Před rokem +1

    Can we appreciate the quality boost in Warp Zone’s videos lately? I’ve always thought they’ve been great but it really seems like they’re working in a studio with freedom of creativity.

  • @nickcoltz1526
    @nickcoltz1526 Před rokem +3

    I do have an Idea about MoM. Instead of assassinate the character of Wanda, why not make her alternate reality an Evil one and make Strange and Wanda and America work together to defeat her?

    • @soulstealer5625
      @soulstealer5625 Před rokem

      I thought wanda was gonna chill before she went super far then the rest pf the film deal with the real villain like another Wanda or something.

  • @roseheart270
    @roseheart270 Před rokem +3

    The Spider-Man one has already been addressed completely. The magic tampered the evidence. For the Namor one, they didn't even seem to know about Wakanda before Wakanda Forever.

  • @sternritternovad
    @sternritternovad Před rokem +2

    These are always a treat

  • @Gamefit28
    @Gamefit28 Před rokem +1

    I love warp zone happy holidays to you all!!

  • @shelisemassie6656
    @shelisemassie6656 Před rokem +4

    Awesome video

  • @CineScarborough
    @CineScarborough Před rokem +2

    Wow, this Doctor Strange's plan for Wanda actually makes more sense!

  • @m-12ul20
    @m-12ul20 Před rokem +2

    Strange spitting a good point

  • @KritikuNgaFerizaji
    @KritikuNgaFerizaji Před rokem

    It’s always great when WarpZone makes such long videos, also 6:45 before seeing this I was ready to comment you haven’t seen the new post credit scene 😂

  • @danieloconnor1005
    @danieloconnor1005 Před rokem +5

    Warp Zone would be great at Cinema Sins

  • @temwananinkana3419
    @temwananinkana3419 Před rokem +3

    This namor has more muscle, than the one in the film 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @theleastsignificantbit4794
    @theleastsignificantbit4794 Před 10 měsíci +1

    If these skits were actually in the MCU, I’d go see one of the films. Alas, there are not so, I simply liked and subscribed.
    Continue doing God’s work!

  • @Nightraven4321
    @Nightraven4321 Před rokem +2

    The Wanda one was also something she said she wanted her powers because what if one of them get sick or dies and she can get there medicine

    • @TheWarpZone
      @TheWarpZone  Před rokem +5

      She can bend reality at the molecular level (shown by deleting black bolts mouth) what sickness could she not fight? It made no sense.

    • @Nightraven4321
      @Nightraven4321 Před rokem

      @@TheWarpZone that’s what they said in the movie

  • @tokusaturider2559
    @tokusaturider2559 Před rokem +3

    Yeah, they should have done something about the shrine and posts online 😂

  • @bigreaderpike
    @bigreaderpike Před rokem +5

    You did the nameor scene just so you should show off your good exercise program didn't you

  • @skidmoda
    @skidmoda Před rokem

    You guys killed it in this one props all the way around. Winter soldier was f'n epic

  • @Christall5
    @Christall5 Před rokem +2

    2:20 You look so much like Soldier Boy there 😂