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Your first guitar or just decoration? Donner DST Set Review
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
- After teaching guitar for 10 years, it is still difficult to recommend a super low budget guitar and even if you find one, the Accessories add up. The Donner Set on review has most of what you need to get started for only 119 Euro and there are even coupons below for better deals!
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0:00 Slideshow
2:10 Noodle Track
3:31 Introduction
4:48 Unboxing
13:14 The Little Amp
13:57 The included Tuner
17:36 about Pickups
18:14 The Tremolo
20:04 Bad Tuners
22:55 Sounds (Tone King)
24:53 with RedSeven Duality 100
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This is actually one of the best reviews I have ever seen. Your honest approach pays dividends. So refreshing. What a cracking buy this guitar is. It sounds great. However pointing out the downfalls makes me want to buy it more because there would be no disappointments. The price is unbelievable. Importantly the tone and intonation sound spot on. I wish other reviewers would take this approach and it's also bold for this manufacturer to commission this review.
Reviewers....... let's hear a few more of the pitfalls, please. No disrespect intended.
I'm thinking about the Donner Dst 152 model. I definitely like that it has HSS and the second tone know is push pull to split the bridge and middle pickup. Even as a strictly novice I would change the tunners as done here, plus change out the pickups to Seymore Duncan's and maybe the pots to 500. I've also looked at the Fender stratocaster player series, but it's not HSS. It doesn't let you split the bridge and middle either, but it can't because it's only a SSS. The plus model does but it's a little over a thousand dollars. The Prs Se sliver sky is another great guitar, but it too is only SSS. The thing I know is almost any budget guitar will sound fantastic in an expensive amp. So as a novice who is semi-retired and wanting to learn the guitar, any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the review.
Love these reviews! Very honest, entertaining, and educational. Always cool to hear cheap guitars through high end amps as well.
On the tuner screws, any time you have a screw a bit smaller or it’s not biting, take a toothpick and put it in the hole, then break it off. The screw will bite quite well with just a little bit of toothpick. Works well for any type of wood screw.
I did that also, but I used also superglue, it works perfectly.
I've always wanted to play guitar but never had the time to invest. I've just purchased this and I am very much looking forward to it. Very good and honest review and I will probably follow your advice about the tuners. My son has the same guitar so it will be good for both of us.
Check you tuner. If it's the same as packaged with other inexpensive guitars, it can be used for different instruments. Make sure it's set on guitar.
I have the blue Donner and absolutely no tuning problems even removed one spring from them bar and use it without tuner problems, go figure?!?😊
They should get rid of the trem bridge and put a stop tail or cheap wrap-around one on there. Take the savings of the trem and time wasted routing out the back of the guitar and put it into the tuners. They could also pinch pennies if they just painted it one solid color too.
The amp battery is probably a Lithium pouch cell or an 18650 cylindrical cell. They come charged to a shipping charge because completely flattening them damages them. So does _leaving_ them at a full charge, so it wouldn't be shipped fully charged either. Pouch cells and 18650s are readily available online, so they could be easily replaced when worn out or upgraded to get more playing time.
A TP4056 charging circuit board with USB that inputs 5 volts is worth maybe 75 cents in parts, in volume. The boards often come with a battery protection circuit that prevents the battery voltage from dropping too low in use by shutting off power. The rechargeable battery is a good feature that doesn't add much to the cost of the unit and isn't included on more mainstream offerings like the BOSS Mini or Blackstar Fly.
The monochrome tuner I got from Donner with my ukulele is better (accurate and responsive) and has more (useful) features than my Snark. The jaw opening is too narrow to get regular use on a guitar, though.
Earlier this year I bought a Donner Tele-alike without the amp/tuner/capo and it came tuned up a fourth! The low E was just flat of B. The A was a D. The D was a G. The unwound strings were tuned up between a major and minor third. This didn't seem to hurt the neck at all, but it was a bit disconcerting to think that this thing probably travelled from the factory in China and then sat in a warehouse for quite a while like this. The strings came pre-stretched, I guess?
The intonation was set by eye, not by ear. The action was actually in the usable range, if uneven. And the fret ends were the right length, but not dressed.
The finish looked pretty nice when it came out of the gig bag. The sunburst was even and the finish was polished well enough to read text reflected in it without distortions. A nice first impression. There are some tiny splotches of dark dye on the side of the headstock that don't belong there. But the finish is not very durable. There is a little ding on the corner between the upper and lower bout that I have no idea how it got there. It has never had anything dropped on it as far as I am aware.
The hardware looks low-rent in many places, but the tuners have less lash than the ones that came with my American Strat a couple of decades ago.
It’s actually really good and very nice demo at start. Good to see affordable instruments being shown. You show that an affordable instrument can sound fantastic if you have skill. Always good to show off your inherent talent.
12:20 it’s what you say and what I am.
Donner makes some cool gear, I got a Donner Revecho pedal it’s super cool and soo affordable.
Will they stick with it? So glad I did. Mom said when I started bringing it in the bathroom with me they knew it wasn’t just a phase. (The phase was the sound from putting the solid body guitar body on the cast iron tub as a resonator, it sounds almost lo fi univibe )
In the beginning I thought.. yeah, ney.. what can one expect.. but actually the attention to detail they put into this package is actually worth a big respect !!!
One thing was missing though, or better said something was too much, it should have been a fixed bridge strat.
Plays exactly the same notes as a $4k custom shop!
Bought one of the Donner acoustics and it had the worst tuners I have ever experienced. Dead spots as you said but all the tuners go 10 cents or more flat within a few hours. I kept tuning it every day for a week to let the neck settle in but nothing changed. The tuners only stayed in tune less then an hour. In the states, Wilkinson tuners are around 23-40 US dollars and they are a REQUIRED upgrade if one buys a Donner.
indeed
Top notch content and production as always. Great advice on buying for kids.
Curios if you tried to mic up the little amp to see what it wound sound like (remembering some mic'd Pignose Amps)
! ! ! I've seen cutting strings off done even by guitar techs of major bands, but its not such a good idea. You go from 100 kg of pressure to 0 in seconds. If you unwind the strings, the guitar at least has a chance to adjust smoothly to the change.
Ah Henning, you really care about the kids and beginners!! First time I've seen you work on a guitar too. Good job all round me thinks. 😀
There is an HB Option, it's the Harley Benton ST-20HSS, which would fit you're recommendation. 88€ just the guitar itself.
Well done uncle Henning. Priceless information for a beginner! For free...
I get what they're doing and having literally everything you need to start immediately is Definitely a good idea.
I think if they just saved the money on accessories and put it into the guitar it would be a superior instrument. I could see a lot of people giving up because of the tuners and trem.
The Yamaha Pacifica or Squier Affinity guitars aren't much more expensive. I know what I would buy my kid.
Trem is totally usable. Just fully float it. Done it on my Squier Bullet. Works 100% fine
i love my donner
they did me right
Donner is a good cheap guitar, I don’t think people should be confused of what it is, but it’s a good instrument or a mod project. I definitely wouldn’t turn one down, I have one and it’s very easy to play and feels good, I love the neck on it!
Love the studio puppies. They're awesome.
I found this guitar on eBay for about 180 aud but I don’t know if it’s a scam or not
"It feels like a real guitar"...that is great!🤣
Cool, Strat with humbucker!🙂
Hey Henning, I truly appreciate your reviews and videos. Your review on Ibanez RGR131EX convinced me to buy one (Can't buy through your affiliate link due to shipping. Sorry!) and I loved how you truly care for both professional and amateur alike! Maybe some people don't like it when you refer the audience as beginner but man, your explanation really helps me and I bet fellow beginners alike.
And you definitely showed that it does not matter what your gear is!
Jetzt weiß ich, was ich meiner Tochter zur Santaklaus kaufen soll! Vielen Dank, Henning!
It's cool that when you get this set you can start right away. Proverbial frustrating are the 'batteries not included', so you have to wait till the next day the shops are open or Amazon delivers before you can get any sound out of it. Even when you are out of tune or don't understand things, it is satisfying it does sómething and starting to use it is not postponed.
370.4 EUR in Amazon mexico. Do they really sell them ? At least one ?
I think beginners might benefit from a capo because they can practice chords and scales on, say, the 5th or 7th position, which requires less stretching, and so it's a bit easier (maybe less string tension too?). When they master it a bit, they can lower the capo to 3rd or even do without. This may hold for the young ones with smaler hands even more. Sometimes, I'm over 18, I even do so when trying to learn of figure out something difficult.
Capos are even used by professionals, it depends on the type of playing.
I bought their T-Type guitar. I think I paid an extra $5 for shipping insurance. The guitar was delivered with a big finish gouge. I contacted them, they sent me another one and told me I could donate the first, they didn't want it back.
With that said both guitars are trash. The springs on the saddles do not provide any tension at all. They literally rattle when I play. Both had major finish issues.
Both played like trash and needed string height adjustment as well as major intonation job.
... With that said, I only got it cuz it was $100 and I planned on removing the upper half of the frets like Tyler from Music Is Win's half-fretless PRS.
Lol yeah... It's called a set ups. All guitars need them to be set up for you. Mine took me 20 minutes and plays great. I actually use it live now because it's cheap enough to throw in the truck
@@stephawnicus1990 I understand setup but the setup won't fix the saddle springs from jangling around.
Ich denke egal welche Gitarre du spielen würdest es würde geil klingen. Aber wie immer ein tolles Video vielen Dank
Thanks for the overview and detailed comments; very helpful. Question - for someone living in the U.S., what locking tuners would you recommend ? The shipping to U.S. for the Harley Bentons costs as much as the tuners?
I guess the Fender locking tuners aren’t too expensive.. sweetwater has them… they should be linked under the video.
That shirt is magnificent!
Id buy my son one of these!
PS: Das Tremolo kann man noch mit zwei extra Federn "festsetzen"...bekommt auch jeder hin.
the Harley Benton ST-62 Strat copy actually cost more than this guitar, there 199 now.
this Donner Strat guitar you reviewed is there entry level model, they have another one that's a step up from this priced at 159. that's still pretty affordable for a beginner,
there's also the Squier Bullet Stratocaster, it cost a little more at 199 but it's a better built guitar.
Hey Henning, great stuff as always. 28:00 What about the ST-20 HSS? Not comparable to the Dönner? I also wanted to ask: that low E string rattling and buzzing like crazy, does it bother you? I can hear it in your intro jam and everytime you play something without distortion, isn't that an issue or is it forgiveable due to the price point? Or just not important at all regardless of the price point? Rock on!
...definitely something to forgive at that price point
I like that song at the end of the video!
Ich finde es gut was du machst und verfolge dich schon lange,weiter so.
Bei so vielen Gitarren die du hast eine Anregung: wie würdest du die Idee finden,Gitarren,die preislich nicht unbedingt über einem bestimmten Preisniveau sind,an Musikschulen zu verschenken,damit Kinder aus ärmeren Familien auch ein Instrument lernen können ?
Als Kind (verdammt lang her) hätte ich mir gewünscht die Musikschule besuchen zu dürfen,aber leisten konnte sich das damals kaum einer und so sieht es leider heute auch wieder aus.
Kinder sind die Zukunft und ich finde,Talente,egal aus welcher Schicht,sollten alle unterstützt werden.
Absolut... viele meiner günstigeren Gitarren gehen jetzt an ein Projekt nach Afrika.
Irrelevant: May I humbly request to review the recent Joyo Bantams? The Joyo Meteor II and Joyo Tweedy!
Pardon for the irrelevant comment 😊
Guitars are one of the only object you can buy for 100$ that looks and functions almost identically to a 4000 $ version
Ich konnte nur auf das DJI Mic gucken, Du Made. Ich brauche eins nächste Woche und DJI lässt das erst am 6.12. raus. Also habe ich ein meganerviges Wireless Go II gekauft und schlage mich mit der Software rum :(
Die Gitarre ist auch nett :D
haaaa..... hättste was gesagt.... ich hätte Dir meins ausgeliehen!
@@EytschPi42 ich hab doch was gesagt :D
I'd like to hear that amp through it's output into your gear ;-)
there is no output
@@EytschPi42 I though you said there was a headphone output. Often, but I'm very cautious, you can use that as a 'lineout', can't you?
true
I hate those plastic neck plate condoms, yes it sounded like shit lol! I have had some crappy tuners that not only had dead zones, the high E tuning peg cut the strings off, I'd get it up to pitch and it would just snap.
Donners are better than some
Second last
My dream would be to own two Super Crush 100's so I can run them in stereo. My MIMIQ has spoiled me against using mono or dual mono.
Also, this Donner looks like a carbon copy of the Harley Benton ST-20HSS SB. Just saying.
Last!
funny. grandma got him this guitar in blue the other day.
First!
Katzenpulli ist der grösste Knaller !
Danke Walter
I've collected a modestly embarrassing "guitarsenal" over time comprised entirely of "cheap" guitars ($100-450). Tuners and/or nut replacement is usually a no brainer on most below $300.
Although,
I had to swap the tuners on a $450 Faded Worn Green Epiphone SG
(yeah, I know. Shameful consumer)
to make it even playable for me.
A bit of Q.C. buyer's remorse I've got on that one currently. Well, until I look at it.
I mean, it's freaking green dude! DeRp!
It's a cheap take on one of the worst tuning stability designs EVER created.
What could possibly go wrong?
I am such a sucker.
(facepalm)
I wish the cheep Guitar’s back in the day was as good as that one.
That's not called a tremolo. It's called a vibrato. Thanks, Leo.
it should be called a vibrato but it is commonly called a Tremolo, which technically is wrong.
@@EytschPi42 It was Leo's fault.
Vibrato is pitch modulation (wobbling pitch/tone), tremolo is volume/amplitude modulation (wobbling loudness). The whammy bar is, of course, pitch modulation, but it is called tremolo, historically, by convention (even when it's wrong). Names don't always cover real characteristics.
@@fritsvanzanten3573 It's still Leo's fault.
@@jltrem Yeah, even worse, his product says 'fender', a car part, but it is a musical instrument
Der aktuelle Preis liegt bei 155 Euro! Immer noch ein Scnäppchen für Anfänger!
Just buy a fckn Squier. It comes with a nice looking headstock too.
For $120 you can buy all that gear if you buy a used squier instead. You do get issues with them too, but there are a lot of Parents getting rid of their used squiers, that their kids maybe never even played.
In my opinion this is discouraging kids from playing the guitar, they get this kind of thing, then believe it's too hard.
Parents do your kids a favour and spend more, or buy used.
But that is my point... the playability and sounds on this are NOT discouraging, only the tuners were.... do you really think I would recommend this if I didn't think it was actually worth recommending?
@@EytschPi42 I think you're making the best of something bad.
This video stands up for someone who has already bought a guitar with shitty tuners or a shitty trem and says, "this is how to make your purchase not suck."
I applaud your efforts so that kids can have a good experience trying to learn guitar. But Donner really missed the mark, a beginner pack like this has to be ready to go, not needing probably €80 of work (€40 if you do it yourself) to make it usable.
Plus if a wiggle stick is fitted it should be usable FFS.
Economic nonsense IMHO. Santa won't be happy about it ;)
Don't curse in your videos, especially when addressing parents.
why? they are adults... I am pretty sure they curse as well!
As soon as he said I'm getting paid for the video I clicked off .
I'll say he's still being honest. I've bought one just to check out. He doesn't hold back and he's honest.
you should have continued and see what I critique and how I upgrade the guitar IN THE PAID VIDEO.... and if you think ANY channel on a certain level does not get paid to do the work, then you are delusional! Sorry... but this is how this works... the difference is wether or not the honesty remains. If you knew me and my channel you'd know that I cannot be bought!
How many more "amazing for the price" throwaway guitars and beginner sets after 30 years of "I can't believe this is under 200 bucks" throwaway guitar sets made in a totalitarian communist country does this world need? Do you think Chinese kids can get hold of such a guitar when their parents live a) in the backcountry and b) do not agree with the government? Any channel that's shilling such crap so aggressively ("coupons below for even better deals") is outing themselves as a total sellout and losing their creds instantly.