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Coraline Theory - Part 13 - Car Accidents & Technology - The Fangirl
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- In this video, lets explore the gadgets that we see the Jones family use in Coraline, the reasons for using those things, and a possible connection with Mel's car wreck. They're on the run!
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You can't forget the $1 tip Charlie gives to movers
lol, I didn't think to look at how much that was, but he did try to stiff them!!!
Trev Horseboy xD
Trev Horseboy and that the mom wouldn't let her get the gloves. School uniforms are super expensive so it must've been a stretch for them to get just that
yeah
It wasn’t Charlie tho
I thought it was pretty obvious that the jones family were poor
Samantha Serrano me too lol
For example, when they didn't want to tip the moving guy but he stopped the door and he only received a dollar
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That actually makes a lot of sense. If you pay attention to the dialogue, Coraline says "It's not my fault you hit that truck".
I never really thought about it before, but I suppose she could've been implying that Mel hit it on purpose. Wow, it's amazing what you can miss.
I doubt that she did it on purpose. When you're trying to commit fraud, you usually try to do something that gets the other person to hit you. Also I'm pretty sure the line "its not my fault you hit that truck" was to imply that coraline was IN the car at the time, and I doubt Mel would have attempted a crash with coraline in the car.
It was probably just to add an atmosphere of dreary issues. Medical bills, injury, being overworked, etc
When did she say that
Maybe she punched the truck and the driver came out and
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Who's mel her mom?
@@welcometomyboringchannelof5483 yes
I have memorized all the dialogue in this movie.
me too!
AquaFox 9808 same
Same!! Sometimes in class when I finish watching, I'll mentally watch it lol
SAMEEE i watch it in my head when i'm bored
AquaFox 9808 same
what if Coralines mom was the victim of that scam though? her level of frustation could stem from that person getting away with it.
It's a possibility, but having had that happen in my household too, it's really not THAT big of a deal. The insurance pays out, you really don't have anything happen to yourself other than higher insurance rates - maybe a $200-500 a year increase. So, it's a frustration, but not THAT level of a frustration.
That's a lot for some people, though. Also, it's not impossible that her car was totaled, especially since their VW looks entirely undamaged. When something similar happened to me, I had to buy a new car- meaning I had to beg for rides just to get anywhere for several weeks, I had to pay hundreds of dollars in fees for the car registration & license plate, I had a ton of extra things on my to-do list, and I had to downgrade my car bc there was nothing on the market at a good price like my old one. So my gas prices went up, too. I had no way to travel anywhere without begging someone else to drive me around with my giant to-do list, and Coraline's family looks like they only had one car. They may have gone several weeks struggling just to make it across town to buy groceries, in addition to the financial mess and physical pain that the accident caused. This could be weeks or months of compounding stress that she's experiencing.
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jacksparrowismydaddy I’ve always wondered why the real mom is so mean to her daughter.
jacksparrowismydaddy it truly is a pain the neck to deal with as the victim. My parents and I were in wreck when we were hit by a intoxicated person. It totaled mama’s car and left everyone in a frustrated and petrified state for a week or two. There’s a good chance that they had the wreck recently and are still suffering from the mental impact. Not to mention it can take weeks to even find out whether or not you will be covered.
Actually there is a deleted scene, extended about the dinner that coraline real father made that weird noodle (veggie ?) Dish. She says "Charlie I told you to get a laptop" and he replies" their giving them away now?" So them being poor makes alot of sense
I re-watched coraline after watching your videos and I realized that Wybie says the well is so deep, if you fall down it and look up, you'll see a sky full of stars during the day time!! And it's always nighttime in the other universe!!!! Another portal? I think so.
Haruka Prince man if that's true, then the Beldam got the key back
Jeremy Weller ALSO ALSO, if you look closely enough, the well and the tunnel looks similar!
ARE YOU TELLING ME THATS A NECK BRACE AND NOT A TURTLENECK
Sparrow Lynn yes they even said it in the movie that she had an accident lol
Sparrow Lynn i thought that was a turtle neck to
Yes it a brace
It's a brace. I didn't catch it the 1st time either. But then I compared it to the sweater the Beldam wore when we first meet her. And it made me aware. Then we get when Coraline builds pillow parents and puts a brace for her mom. Then later when Coraline goes to save her parents the Beldam tears off a brace after impersonating the mom eyes and all. I wonder how bad her mom's neck was hurt in that accident. 😢😁
Damn
i always thought thay were poor when i first saw the movie when it come out but that's just a theory a coraline theory
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I always assumed that the Jones family was dirt poor and that played into the fact they moved there.
Isn't it weird how the woman at the uniforms store stares directly to the camera the whole time they're talking about buying said uniform? It makes me shiver, that woman knows something. What if that is a way of the movie makers to tell US that in that scene, Coraline is in fact in the Other world, with The Beldam in that fake store
Carolina Mejías thanks... I notice it every time now
IKR? Every time I see that shot I get freaked out.
Yeah when the fangirl shows it on the theory of her screen shot i was like a bit shook and im kinda confused
I never noticed that
If the movie takes place in 2009, the family is probably recovering from the recession. That's why they're financially struggling
Seconded. After all, they ARE from Pontiac, which is part of Detroit: a former auto manufacturing hub that was brutalized by the recession.
A lot of people were grouting laid off or hours severely cut at the end of 07 beginning of 08... I had to move because 8hra week wasn't doing shit. A lot of people were hurt by that. I went from 40+hr a week to almost nothing.
that was a neck brace i thought it was a turtle neck.
I thought so too. it looked a little off to me...but then I chalked it up to being a weird design choice like how they gave the dad a long neck.
I thought the same thing, except, on one of my millions of times watching Coraline, I noticed that 1. Coraline uses the neck brace when her parents are missing and she makes them out of pillows, so you get a better look there. And 2. When the Beldam is posing as an identical copy of Mrs. Jones, during her change back to the Beldam, she rips off the neck brace and then it's REALLY obvious what it was. So, when I finally caught the line about the car wreck, I was like "oooh, it all makes sense now!"
Rebekah Conley Same!
me too
Same here
I noticed that no one calls Coraline by her real name instead they call her Caroline. only the people in the other world call her by her correct name.
Also Whybee's grandma only ever calls for him to come home when he's given Coraline just enough information to spike her interest about the pink palace and right before then the cat always squints it's eyes even before she ever went into the tunnel/well
That Pike Family TRUE!
Her real parents calls her Coraline
Randomly gonna dump this theory that I've had for a while.
What if the other mother was a metaphor for a parent with bipolar disorder?
I have a mother with bipolar disorder, and the whole movie really resonated with me for how well it represented realistically flawed parents. At face value, you could easily take these parents as just struggling or being sub par support for their daughter emotionally, but once you meet the other mother, you could imagine a deeper layer to coralines real mom.
Bipolar parents can switch from being excessively loving and giving to extremely selfish, demanding for unreasonable things, love, recognition, and they can turn explosive when they don't get their way.
Her request to sew buttons into coralines eyes can be representative of a bipolar parent wanting to abuse their child via an absurd or impossible request for a child to fulfill, being met with intense guilt tripping via the other mother being so nice and giving. Then, when the other mother is denied, she reacts by being incredibly hurt, saying coraline needs to be a loving daughter, locking her away, etc. That manipulative and abusive behavior is one I have witnessed many bipolar parents display.
As an addition, abused children of bipolar parents often fantasize about how great it would be if they could only be with the version of their mother that is loving and happy all the time. It is in fact this same subconcious desire that is what strings a child along to be abused time and time again by their bipolar parent, they experience periods of love and happiness so they allow themselves to be roped in and abused again. Hence, this is why the other mother is BOTH incredibly loving and incredibly evil. She is the embodiment of both sides of bipolar, the loving part that ropes you in, gains your trust and guilts you, and the monster that abuses you.
Miss Lamb wow... I’m sad now.
I cannot believe a person, especially a child, has to go through something like that. This makes sense, actually.
Good theory
I have a father with BiPolar and I can 100% agree that he can be so manipulative and now that you've said that it makes so much sense. It would also explain why the dad is so neutral in everything. At least for me when my dad was married his wife would only really follow his rules because she didn't want to get on his bad side. But someone who's Coraline's age would be starting to rebel and starting to see the worse side of their mother, maybe that's why the time is so weird in the movie, it's her aging into rebellion and seeing her mother get angrier and angrier.
My older brother has this condition also and it sounds very accurate to assume this theory. One moment he can be laughing and happy then the next he could be screaming and yelling.
I must say, good eye for detail--- especially when tying in the Mother's neckbace. That detail had me curious for a while.
Thank you!
When I was watching this theory I totally forgot about the belldam
Evan Sineni same
omg me too
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i have some evidence that coraline never made it back.
when she is in the other world the garden is shaped like coraline but at the end of the movie when she is susposed back in the real world the garden is shaped like the beldams face
Yeah, I heard the Theorize say something to that effect as showing that the Beldam's still alive in the Other World, but that's never resonated with me, personally. I mean, it's a good thought, but I'm just not seeing the Beldam's face as strongly as Coraline's.
lol the garden never changed in the real world. if it never changed how is it a clue about the world being fake.
that’s not evidence. the garden was already shaped like the beldam’s face when she first moved in.
I love your Coraline theories! Keep up the good work.
Thanks and I will try!
The Fangirl :D
Yay
I believe the BOOK is set BEFORE 2002, or around then. because the author mentioned he spent a long time on it, but the movie is set on the release date. Then again, Coraline does have a TV in the book soo...
Also, I think they were tryin to imply the mother was upset about mud, because mud caused her tires to slip, and cause the car accident.
This might have happened in the "Limbo Pink Palace" portion of the film, but there is a point where Coraline and her mother talk about having something like "ketchup sandwiches" for lunch
I've recently been curious about the movie; ParaNorman. I think is a subject matter u may be interested in exploring
I actually finally bought that movie a few weeks ago.
Hi The Fangirl. I just finished watching all the coraline theory videos and now I think I might have a fact you might be missed in your theories. Sorry if this gets long but just hear me out.
Okay, so this starts out when you said that everyone in the other world is trapped there forever. Like when you used the alley as an example of how some townspeople got there. They'd be trapped, right? Anyways, if that is true, then how is wybie's grandmother there and like.. Really old, especially when we know for a fact that she is in the real world because she calls wybie. Now, I know I know, they can also be carbon copies, but wasn't the ghost of the grandma's twin missing in the graphic novel? That could in fact mean that the person we see at the end of the movie could actually be the grandma's twin and coraline wouldn't even know it because she had never seen her before the end according to the movie. (I haven't read the book or graphic novel yet so Idk about of they'd met before) in that case, it could be possible that the grandma never went to the other world at all and the person at the end is just the twin under the control of the beldam.
Again, sorry if this was super long and confusing.. I'm not very good at putting my thoughts into words..
Long story short, I think that the grandma we meet in the movie is actually her twin that was taken by the beldam since the grandma is still very clearly in the real world. On top of that, I think wybie never visited either, but was seen by the doll, which may or may not be able to see at all
I really hope that that made any sense to you whatsoever
What about the other father's song about Coraline ?
Bret Matthew yes please do a theory about the song!!
she dyed it. In a picture you can see it was brown, maybe to give the character originality or something.
There is a deleted scene where the mom complains about the dad's computer and says something along the lines of "I told you to get a new one" and he insists that his computer is just fine. So I think in the dad's case, he is just attached to his outdated technology. And not having a TV? Come on. Some people don't have TV by choice plus you cannot assume that just because a child isn't shown doing something, they don't have it. It might also have been something they didn't set up yet because setting up cable or satellite takes time and it looks like they got out only the bare essentials.
Mc Hobbit exactly what I was thinking. THEY JUST MOVED... WHY WOULD THEY HAVE THEIR TV HOOKED UP ALREADY...
@@bixchface9213 first thing you set up? Idk
Also the fact that they use someone else's old furniture
I looooove your Coraline theories!! Keep it up! I'm always so excited to watch your new videos!
Thank you guys!
If her parents are so broke that they had to commit insurance fraud and sell there possessions why are they sending coraline to a private school. I figured they are sending coraline to a private school because they are shopping for uniforms (note they aren't used uniforms but brand new one) and aren't private schools usually kind of expensive. I could be completely off and there are public schools that wear uniforms but it would still be very strange for a family that is broke to buy there daughter a brand new uniform. Sorry if that sounded rude or anything I just have a hard time believing they are that broke. Love you videos!
I went to a public elementary school and it had uniforms
Well yes, but that's also kind of explained. In the shopping scene the mom was getting the uniform, but maybe that was all they could afford to get at that time. Hence why she said no to the gloves, which were marked pretty high in price for a pair if you look at the tag. She said she'd make it up if the catalog went through, and when it did she could afford the gloves that she gives her later before the well scene. I grew up with a family with similar money budgets and shopping for school clothes was the same. We could get the clothes but nothing else really. 😁😁😁
In the movie when she was buying uniforms it was during a big sale for Presidents’ Day. She probably had to wait for the sale in order to buy the uniforms. She also only brought coraline a little bit of clothes. Like 2-3 pants 2-3 shirts which I’m sure coraline would have to rewear multiple days a week. And yes public school also wears uniforms.
Maybe the Private School was the only school the parents could send Coraline, and maybe Mel waited until the Presidents Day sale to get Coraline clothes because she knew they would be cheaper, and from what I saw it looked like those were the only clothes they sold, so maybe the Priavte School is the only one near by that Coraline can go to.
Maybe they worked something out with the school to lower their payments or Coraline got a scholarship that either covered the whole thing or covered part of the tuition.
lol youre so good at this . I couldn't help but get in to it !!!! I love youre videos!!!
Thank you! And I hope you caught your shout out for the translated screen! :)
I did !!! and I was having a bad day ! was >w< thank you for that
(using moms account she screamed when she saw it ! LOL)
forgive me but you got me watching them all over again buit I couldn't help but notice this >>>
when the beldamn fakes to be the mother of coralline the well is blank and bleak
the theorizer mentions the toys in the other well
then theres the purple ish one
and last the well outside
please tell me you can figure this out ! im gonna watch the movie again to see if I cant track her location
and one more thing ..... I thinkg the gravitational pull and jump into the well will burst her threw it ... you did say the bell damn did fall into it ...and maybe it was already open lol who knows . gasp !!!! maybe the outside well is open always ........
thank you again !
I Don't Know if u Noticed But in The Blu-Ray Coraline deleted scene male Had a Blue Samsung Computer
About the conversation and the accident, in a deleted scene that is an extension of that scene, not only does the argument flow better, but it says that the accident in question put the family weeks behind on moving, hence the rush to get everything done. They’re not regularly neglectful, they’re just painfully busy.
If this was in ‘08 ‘09 and they were in Michigan this was during the economic downfall which would explain why they a poor. Writing also doesn’t make a lot of money. Assuming they lived in the metro Detroit area before they moved this would explain alot
I had always assumed that their family was poor, but I had never thought of the fake car wreck for money failing thing! You're so good at putting together context clues, I love your theories! (don't forget the $1 tip they give the mover...and that the mom doesn't buy Coraline the gloves, probably because they could barely buy Coraline her uniform, even when they were half off. Only after the dad gets money from selling the cataloug does Coraline get her gloves!)
I love the explanation for the older computer! I was young in the 90s but even I remember that our tech wasn't that old, lol. We at least had more color to the screens, plus laptops were in existence so really no reason for the dad to have that computer unless yeah, the family's broke.
0:48 is my new wallpaper also coraline is my favorite movie and I love your theories
I don't have an idea of how I got here, but I love your Coraline theory videos!!!!
Fangirl I believe your theory that Coraline is in the Pink Palace Limbo but, I have a piece of evidence that Ms.Spinx and Forciable are/were in the real world when Coraline arrived. When Coraline visits them and Ms. Spinx calls her Caroline, Coraline says "It's still Coraline Ms. Spinx" So at least Forciable and Spinx were there when Coraline came
i dont think they're super broke since (i think it was a deleted scene) mom mentiones to charlie he really needed to buy a new computer. meaning dad IS more like martin XD
My Mac is creeping up on 7 years old, and I say I need to buy a new one everyday - I don't know because we're poor folk with three kids and tons of student loan debt lol
But he also replied with "their giving them away now?" Implying they don't have the money for it
Wow I am absolutely LOVING your videos! I cannot get enough!
Awesome video, really blew my mind because I didn't understand why they even bothered mentioning a car wreck in the movie.
Also, just wanting to add in that your voice is really soothing and relaxing! I love hearing it!
Maybe they became broke because of the move because moving is expensive, and maybe something about Oregon drew them in because of their article about plant life.
"Charlie is probably trying to do some kind of passion progect" *hazbin hotel flashbacks*
Wow. Just wow. Just wanted to say that these theories are mind-blowing. You do such a good job on these! They make so much sense and rewatching the movie after seeing all of these is gonna be fun. Thanks for making my day!
I just finished your whole playlist and I love your whole take on it!♡ I truly hope you continue this series because it's super interesting!
Also, if you look at the store in which the dad is entering closely, there's a sign that says "50%" as in "50% off" so if he was going to buy something for their project to review or use as a reference in his gardening articles, it really was purchased because it was on discount and the Jones' couldn't afford it otherwise. But it could also be that he is trying to submit his articles as well, or a combination of both.
Over all, love your theory (I think it's also set in 2009) and keep up the good work! These are so much fun to watch!
Why did I think it was a turtle neck???
Beautifully said~! I love your theories. I've binged watched them for the passed three days.
I thought they moved because the Pink Palace has a massive garden.
Great! Keep it up!
I know there's a very small chance that you'll see my comment but I have a small piece of information that may or may not interest you so basically I only recently watched the film for the first time it was during my stay with my grandma as my parents were going away for a couple days and although i'm 15 my parents didn't feel comfortable with leaving me in the house on my own so I was with my grandma for those couple days during that time like I said I watched Coraline for the first time with my grandma and after the film was finished she told me that the movie reminded her of a story she'd heard somewhere that I thought was interesting I hadn't thought about it again until now so a few bits may be incorrect because of my bad memory it starts off pretty far away from the movie but as it goes on it becomes similar here's a shortened down version of the story: There was an old women who lived on the streets of Guisborough (Which is apparently a town in Yorkshire England although I haven't checked to see if it exists yet) The woman was dark haired tall and would trick local residents to buy rotten apples by coating them in various things to make them appear fresh again one day she was attempting to sell one of her apples to a local noblemen the noblemen who had partly catched on to what she was trying to do asked the woman to take a bite out of one of the apples as if she was willing to do it he would know they were infact fresh she nibbled a small section of the apple as she thought that she consumed so little that the rotten apple could not affect her despite this the noblemen decided not to buy an apple and rode off later that day the women began feeling sick and by the time night fell she was in a lot of pain that night she died in her sleep and her body was found in the morning on the road. The devil deciding that her skills of deception could be useful to him made her soul a deal to help him capture children by giving them whatever they wanted and giving them a perfect life until they trusted her so much they would agree to stay with her forever once they agree to that the devil has the power to take them away and suck the life out of there souls until they are nothing but ghosts the devil agreed to give the woman a large house to do this in which as she was homeless almost all here life she was delighted to hear that as she always wanted a place to stay in. She agreed and ever since then children from the Guisborough area have been going missing and were never seen again. I hope you were interested by the story I at least thing it has some striking resemblance to the Coraline story especially the last bit surrounding the job the devil wanted the women to do. My grandma say's she heard the story originally from her farther she remembers him telling her where the story originated but she can't remember where he said and unfortunately her farther my great grandfather is long gone . If you have any questions about the story please inform me and I can ask my grandma once I see her again at a later date.
Nivada Star nice
Damn
I whole-heartedly agree with this theory!!! You did such a great job with this theory (and all your theories i've seen). The timeline i always went back and forth on and now i think about it and based on what you said i definitely agree with my initial thought when i saw the movie 8 years ago, that it was set in "current times" aka 2009. I never really questioned the poor thing as an abstract theory or something, i thought it was heavily implied based on what we're shown in the movie. I think they were definitely close to bankruptcy, but that it was a new financial situation for them, again based on a few points in the movie where we see glimpses of their "past life" (prior to the move that is)
I have a few points to add if anyone feels like reading my long winded additions lol
*disclaimer*... this video was wonderful and succinct, i hope no one thinks i'm trying to be one of those annoying nit-picky people saying "well you left this out", im not. Her theories and evidence were more than enough to prove the point and i genuinely love all of her theories. I've thought about this a lot the last few days after I watched the movie a couple more times this past weekend with my boyfriend (who heard all of my theories and musings in detail and could not have cared less lmao) so i have a lot of stuff i wanted to add, just in case anyone is interested.
Let's start with the technology point:
Like she said, the car and the laptop are hard to date, but to me the laptop looked pretty standard for the 2006-2010 era, laptops in 2002 were still really bulky at the base. The edges on the laptop screen her mom uses looked more stylized, which wasn't a big thing in 2002. I feel like computer's were more "function" than "form" until about '05 (sorry i work in IT so i kinda had to dissect that one lol)
Also, her mom's cell phone, was definitely out of date for 2009 but i think that was the point, it wasn't supposed to be an iphone or a smart phone, even though by 2009 they were becoming more ubiquitous. The father's computer looked like they pulled it out of storage from when coraline was born, adding to the fact that i think like she said, most of their stuff was sold to fund the move and their flailing career. Same with the car, they only have one car, one good computer, we only see them use old phones, they probably kept the nicer of each car and computer and sold the others to move half way across the country. The car does have the standard bug body style but the inside looked newer, which also would've made sense why she got so upset about the car accident, it was their only mode of transportation, and the nicer of their possessions that they kept, and now even the value of the car was depreciated.
As for their lifestyle: I think Coraline's mom is WAY undervalued/dismissed. On the surface the real mom seems like a self absorbed workaholic jerk that couldn't give a damn about her kid, but if you think of this new dire financial situation as a stressor you realize she lashed out because she was scared and sad that she couldn't keep their old life. At one point they obviously had a happy family and made a stable livable wage, the snow globes and the pictures of her friends and their family trips are huge indicators of the life they had to leave because they needed to sell most of the luxury items and downsize their home to survive (as an adult you can sell cars and TVs without missing them too much, but the memories of a better time you wouldn't ever want to get rid of, which is why the globes and pictures are some of the only possessions we see and the first ones they use to decorate with).
The food they eat, like she said, looks like someone trying to save money/doesn't have any money and is using any and everything in the fridge to scrounge together a meal just to put something on the table, there's no meat, no dairy, no bread, it's just like left over veggies. Even the groceries that are shown from the mom's shopping trip that have rotted when coraline comes home and cant find her parents, it's a single bag of food for 3 people, and it's just the essentials. If you were moving your only child all the way to the west coast away from all her friends, wouldn't you think her mom would at least buy the poor girl some pop-tarts, or a nice turkey dinner or something to try and ease the pain of leaving behind her whole childhood life (the answer is yes, unlessss you cant afford the luxury of a "treat")- the mom isn't a monster. That's why the whole dinner scene with the other mother is the first thing she uses to entice her, it's coraline's most immediate want and the most palpable difference in her life) it was her most recent let down- Coraline was disgusted with having to eat these weird leftover concoctions and wanted just a decadent thanksgiving level dinner because it was a treat she hadn't had in a while. Same thing with the clothes, her real mom practically shoots daggers at her for asking for a pair of colorful gloves while they're uniform shopping, it's not because she wants to crush her spirit, shes stressed the hell out that they don't have money for necessities, let alone a ridiculously priced pair of gloves. The parents are literally going from shop to shop pedaling their catalog just to get back to being able to live semi-comfortably. It explains the crazy over reaction the mom has on every little thing coraline does/doesn't do and why she's fervently working on their catalog. As a child all Coraline sees is her whole world turned upside down with this move, and her mom basically denying her any joy in life (clothes, food, activities, anything that isnt her staying out of the way so the mom/dad can work) because she's terrified they'll be destitute. That's how the other mother is able to lure her in with very little questioning on coraline's part, the food she wants but hasn't had in a long time, new fun clothes she wants but the real mom cant afford at the moment, and the time to play with her/take her to do fun things, again she is a writer on a deadline to make a sale so her time is literally their livelihood at stake. Her real mom isn't a bad person or bad mother. The first thing she does once she can chill out for a second after they sell the catalog is get coraline the pricey gloves she wanted and take her out to a celebratory dinner, so her first actions are to spend time with her family, eating well and giving her kid a special gift. She was actually a great mom in a horrible circumstance. Coraline's real mom is head strong, and definitely an Alpha personality... just like coraline... and the loss of being able to provide and protect her family from the poor house makes her seem mean and cold, but like i said before, as soon as that stressor is gone and she feels like she can finally take a breath financially she treats coraline to the luxuries she's had to go without. I'm assuming this is also why the mom is so crappy when coraline starts telling the other mother stories, she thinks they're her kids dreams of a life her mom cant provide any longer and real mom feels guilty that she no longer can (so she snaps at coraline, then eventually locks the door to protect her, it's guilt and shame, not bad parenting)
Anywho...
TL;DR
I think the movie was set in 2009 and their struggling financial situation was a newer one, which caused them to move and downsize their whole lives to an area where their careers could thrive. The stress caused Coraline's parents to be "bad", but secretly they were really good parents who loved and respected their kid, but wanted to make sure they could afford to keep living before real mom could be more like the ideal "other" mother.
if anyone got through that, bless you lol it's late and i just wanted to give props to OP and kind of add some praise for Coraline's real mom who was secretly awesome and who without question loved her kid a lot.
Very well said.
Wow. Theories like these make me think how much detail a movie can hold. I love your theories, I´ve been a fan of your content for a long time...
I love the theory, also it doesn't matter that the car is older than a 2009 model, my family has never bought a new car in my life.
I love your videos so much. keep up the good work!!!!
It never crossed my mind that they were poor, honestly it didn’t even phase me that there stuff was old, since I was four when it came out, I don’t remember cars and technology, I just always presumed that’s what computers looked like.
FINALLY, someone pointed this out! Thank you! Now every time somebody says something about Coraline taking place before the release date, I can just direct them here!
I like that you are working on other aspects
For the blonde girl at the end, is that you? YOURE ADORABLE!
I always had a feeling that Coraline family was poor as well as it seems strange they would move to a crappy and if not run down house but now you made me realize this
Also, the fact that the movie is set in 2009 (going based on your idea) could suggest that the Recession in 2008 could have had something to do, or at least it couldn't have helped.
Why, why, why am I binge watching all the Coraline theories? (I'm addicted) you're a pretty great CZcamser
I love your coraline videos there so good keep it up I just started watching them and it all makes sense
Thanks for liking my comment its the true keep up the good work
Why does the other mother say that everyone has another mother? why is she also obsessed with games? Love your channel btw
Maybe its just the kids that are getting trashed at home. They would wish for better parents abs could open a doorway to the other world. Make it easier for the beldam to get a hold of kids like coraline.
the beldam said that so coraline could feel safe because she’s not the only one with another mother
commenting this again so you'll see it: I would like to add my two cents. I do not think she is in a limbo pink palace. that might confuse some people because they think there was no way the beldam would know about the gloves at the store. She knew because the doll was in the room when they argued about it when coraline and her mom got home. The doll picked up coraline talking about the gloves, Which explains why the beldam didn't get gloves that looked like the ones in the store, she didn't know what they looked like.
I love your Coraline theorys
these are good. i watched all your Coraline videos today! xD
In one day?! Oh my gosh, I wish I had a medal to give out when people tell me stuff like that! That is a LOT of hours of videos, so thank you for watching!
Ooo I like the picture of the cast from tudors added in!!
So I haven’t been following very long but I absolutely adore this channel. I’m currently binging my way through this series and I love most aspects of this theory (and the other questions/theories it highlights)..
I also agree with all the evidence of the Jones’ being poor. I don’t necessarily disagree with the car accident being a scam and given your personal experience with it, I can totally see why you see it that way. But if Mel didn’t cause the accident, her frustrations make even more sense. If she did cause the accident, the settlement still wasn’t enough to fix anything. I’m not a con artist, but knowing my failure hurt my family would be devastating.
But if she didn’t cause it.. then maybe the accident put her out of work and that’s how she ended up editing her husband’s sub par writing on this project. Them being a long time team doesn’t mean she didn’t have other jobs. If they were scammed then that could have actually caused the bankruptcy. If she’s wearing the neck brace because she’s actually injured/in pain, it makes even more sense for her to be super snippy.
Based on Coraline’s line/delivery “it’s not my fault you hit that truck!” we can assume that she was there. If Mel hit a truck with her daughter in the car, it’s hard for me to believe that she did it intentionally. If she was alone I wouldn’t question it one bit. I also don’t think Mel being a scammer serves the exposition or plot in any way. If anything, them being scammed aligns more with the Jones’ down on their luck narrative that’s in the film/book. In a way, the accident could’ve caused the entire chain of events that put them in the pink palace to begin with. Maybe the Other mother was even involved in instigating the accident somehow?
I’m no expert, just some random thoughts. What a ride though!
Side note: I also like the parallel in their family name in terms of “keeping up with the jones,” it pairs so well with the “grass is greener on the Other side” and appreciating what you have themes.
Edited because I wrote a novel and pressed send too early💀.
There is a deleted scene for coraline where the dad said he likes his computer I can't remember the exact words but the mum said he should get a new one and he said he like his computer the deleted scene video is on CZcams if you want to look
I really love your theories. They are just so interesting.
Thanks Marla!
No problem! I have a request. Could you start doing a theory on the movie "Corpse Bride"? Maybe something that revolves around The Van Dort's past. Your theory on The Everglot's really makes sense if you connect all of the dots. But something that reveals more about Victor's past. I was recently reading the Corpse Bride Wiki page, and I found something interesting. So I rewatched the movie. Emily already knew Victor's name before he knew hers. The page speculated that they might have met before. Could you do a theory on that? Thanks.
I don't know why but the
'No wonder coraline is so bored'
*coraline hanging from door*
Scene was really funny
I love your coraline videos
I love your vids there amazing! And I think that the mother was a victim of the scam and got hurt in the process but as you said it was tecnicly her fault so it cause her to loose a lot of money plus hospital bills ☺I hope I help
I love your theories!
Thank you so much!
The "I heart Mulch" on top of the store that Charlie goes into is the same exact thing that is written on the real Mom's coffee mug in the beginning when she first unlocks the door for Coraline, so while I agree that it looks like it is a small family owned shop, the significance of the mug displays that there could have been a matching store in Michigan, because they haven't been to the "I heart Mulch" store in Oregon yet. So therefore, the "I heart Mulch" store could've been a chain, just not a very nice looking one.
You are the best!
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“It wasn’t my fault the truck crashed.” “I never said that.” Also her: SHE CAUSED IT
Something else that further shows the Jones' are broke is that Mel only hands the moving guy 1 dollar, and the normal cost of 2 moving guys and 1 truck is around 150-200 dollars, per hour. The drive from Michigan to Oregon is around 34 hours, without breaks! That means the cost would've been around 6007 dollars and 75 cents. Just something that I noticed.
Also, Mel probably would've bought Coraline the gloves, if it wasn't for the fact they were the most expensive gloves in the display. They were 25 dollars, while other pairs were 10-15. Mel probably had a little money saved up, just to buy Coraline brand new uniforms, just to make Coraline feel happier. She also probably felt guilt, and that is why as soon as Charlie and Mel sold the catalog, Mel gave Coraline the gloves.
As a child i always thought Coraline just moved so that's why she didn't have a lot
but looking back now i definitely see her parents were struggling.
A lot of dialog Coraline's mom and dad say sounds like financial troubles
"If things go well today" - If we get the amount we're expecting or approved today for money
Yes the gloves were clearly expensive (I mean 30 dollars for gloves? Then again it did say sale so maybe that was the previous price, i don't know.) but you can see her mother was clearly shopping in the sale section, even shopping on a big sale day.
Old phones - When a family can't afford a smart phone they'll stick to things like nokia flip phones because it's easier to buy and plans are usually cheaper
No TV, Internet (I think?) or toys - Her family likely had to sell things like the TV and cancel their internet plans just to move into this place.
Notice at the end of the movie her family talk about a pizza they had for dinner? Often times low income families will celebrate getting money again by eating out the day (basically a simple pizza or even a burger)
At the beginning of the movie, Mel only gives the movers a $1 tip after she has to. Maybe it's cause she doesn't have the money to spare? Great theory. It makes heaps of sense.
Yes. I am early :D i love your videos! You're the best
Thank you, Eleni!
This theory makes total sense!
Interesting! Another way you could back up the theory that the Jones are poor is that in deleted scenes Coraline's mum says "Charlie I told you to get a laptop" and he says "They giving them away now?" So this kind of proves the theory that they just can't afford new technology.
so ur saying coraline is back with her real parents???
Or the Beldam just replicated everything Coraline had at home.
This makes a lot of sense. A couple other details you didn't mention are that Coraline's mother only tipped the movers a dollar in the opening scene, and she wouldn't buy Coraline those expensive gloves in the store when they were buying uniforms.
“Anywhere in the world”
Shows a picture of a colonized mars. That’s a good one.
I only saw the movie once and never noticed the neck brace. Watching your videos I thought it was weird that when the other mother changed into her spider form that she had that thing around her neck. This just cleared that up for me because I was confused. Now that I have binge watched very single one of your Coraline theories today its time to re watch the movie and watch very carefully for all these hidden meanings and clues.
I started watcgi Coraline when I was three lol I was born a year before it was made
Great theory! Also, in the beginning Mr. Jones only gives the mover guy 1 dollar!
Omg, I've always thought that Mel was wearing a turtle neck jumper! 😂 that honestly changed my life
When you put the Nightmare before Christmas picture up I just died of fangirling. Could you consider making a Lock, Shock and Barrel theory?
i had a really fat computer growing up, i was 10 in 2009, i had that computer. family had it since the 90s/early 2000s
I think it was really obvious that they didn't have a lot of money in the movie, but this goes more in depth!
I thought it was on the obvious side too, but I kept seeing the comment come so I thought I'd explore the idea and take you guys on the trip with me!
5:06 am I the only one who notice the lady in the left is staring into my soul....
By the way, I don't like Coraline. But I like how meticulous and detailed your theories are. Your videos are much more fun to watch than the actual movie. Good job!
Aww, that's such a huge compliment, thank you!
I found your Coraline vid's last night and I love them! btw m living in Medford right now (husband grew up here) and am only about ten miles north of Ashland!
Oh that's awesome! You should go exploring and see if the city in Coraline matches Ashland at all!
not until my husband gets _his_ license back and I no longer have to drive!
The model of new beetle shown was the mid-cycle refresh available from 2006-2012. The cues are the front and rear fascia. The wheel design and the location of the hazard light button.
5:12 was worth a like.
Soon Ill be forgotten :'( Anyways I love your Vids as usual ♥♡♥♡☆★★☆♡♥
ive often thought that they were poor, but it always made me think that coraline was even more douchey than she already was.
Have you read the book version of Coraline? I can hardly stand her she seems so bratty in there versus the movie.
It has been a couple of years since i have
+The Fangirl I've only ever read the graphic novel.
great vid miss Great theory as well
Thank you, Dakota!
np :)