Jerry West On Friendship With Michael Jordan & Scottie Pippen's Recent Comments
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- Jerry West shares his experience from the NBA 75 ceremony, his relationship with Michael Jordan, and why we'll never know who's a better golfer between the two of them. Plus Jerry gives his thoughts on Scottie Pippen's recent comments regarding MJ. #jerrywest #paulgeorge #michaeljordan #scottiepippen
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Jerry West is 85... 85! And still razor sharp. Gotta admire this dude and what he's done for the game .
That's because he has a good heart unlike many people or politicians who are nasty people and get senile and try to hold on to power and attention.
Yeah. He _definitely_ still got that edge 😂😂😂.
85?? He doesn’t seem a day over 63 jeez.
@@Prince_Luci Stop, he does look like he's in his 80s. Maybe people in your family just look old.
Rip
I think Jerry West is the perfect logo, grounded, with immense love for the game, and humble ....
I hope they never change it. It's nice to have someone for it showing no ego. Anyone else jockying for it would
Also growing up i always associated it with the nba, not jerry west. I dont think it should be about "the best player". The mj vs lebron debate is so worn out
His love for people too, he seems so passionate !
And he's yt. Let's not forget that boys. That's what you want to say anyway
@@malcolmx3413 What an idiotic comment ... pathetic.
@@malcolmx3413lol
MJ was an alien. To throw on top of the fact he had freakish athleticism, insane work ethic, huge hands, the man didn’t get tired!! Magic and Larry said he it seemed like he didn’t sleep during the ‘92 Olympics. The GOAT in any era.
Armstrong the old PG, said that to, was always up and going
That is something you hear pretty consistently from all of Jordan's contemporaries. Almost without fail, whether it's magic, Larry, Isiah, Jerry West, they all talk about the absurd stamina and energy level Jordan had.
Lot of people don't realize that Jerry West was the GOAT Shooting Guard before MJ. And for a lot of people, he's still top 3 Shooting Guards.
EASILY top three of all time at his position.
@@khalidrogers4310 no he isn’t
OK so jordan, kobe, and Jerry west?
@@dickhardpicard wade?
naah he averaged 31ppg max on burger flippers
Wow he is 85 and he doesn’t even act like it. That is amazing
yeah,it's surprising,I used to think he is younger than Kareem
How can you not like Jerry West? Humility at its finest & the podcast is great. Just came across it and subscribed. PG let’s his guest talk.
Facts. The logo should never be changed, honestly.
The golfing during the day and dropping 40-50 points in the evening is such an insane fact about MJ! I know people in pretty good shape that end up quite tired/sore after playing 18 holes of golf, to do it after playing a full 36 is bonkers!
Don’t forget he was killing beers the whole time lol
@@inokerogoyawa holy sh*t, I thought you were making stuff up until I found the Roenick story. That’s insane on a game day!
MJ was a machine.
I did not know MJ and Jerry hang out at least once a year for a few days. That's pretty cool. They're both country boys: West Virginia and North Carolina. They love golf.
This man is a living legend, so so crucial to the game of basketball and sports in general! God bless him!
You guys had one of his final interviews. RIP MR.WEST LA mourns you with deep sadness
I think when Scottie's son died it introduced him to a totally different world of pain and regret. And I think he took it out on those who he gave his all to because it didn't save him from the fall of losing his son. And I think there was confusion there on how to figure out his life going forward. He was probably searching for a sense of happiness and realized at that moment that nothing could bring happiness so he convinced himself that everything was bad.
I would imagine your 1000% correct about what Scottie is going through. Then on top of that going through a divorce. On top of that your ex-wife going out with your former teammates son. With all that said nothing should excuse Scottie for slandering MJ. We all go through problems throughout life and we all have or will suffer losing loved ones, but that doesn't give any of us the right to drag someone else.
@@daweeza42 To counter that though, I think if MJ and Phil Jackson were reaching out to him a lot of after his son died to help him heal I don't think it would have happened. Just my thoughts on it.
@@Blujonny11pippen didn’t reach out when Jordan’s father died why should Jordan
This is a great analysis and comment. Sometimes pain and hurt propels bad decisions.
I agree. I also think Pippen really didn't like how he was portrayed in "The Last Dance." I think all the events that you mentioned and the documentary set him off. However, I think he truly did have some of those feelings even before those events.
Fun fact) Jerry’s daughter in law is Michelle Wie, a former professional LPGA golfer with a major win (US Open) and multiple tour wins
May you rest in peace Mr. Jerry West. A very very likable human being. May God bless you.
Hands down, The most respected person in NBA history, and this is coming from the #1 MJ fan, but I gotta admit, Jerry West is the most admirable person ever in the sports of basketball. RIP LOGO
1938~2004
I love you, Jerry West. Thank you for working with my Clippers! I know we haven't won shit. We're always injured. But I'm glad you enjoy working with us.
It's pretty sad to watch MJ and Scottie's relationship deteriorate. But at least they're feuding now instead of during the time they're winning championships.
That's a weak silver lining
@@NewAgeSlaves I couldn’t agree more
All this over a Netflix doc….and mj’s son lol pippen emotions are way too weak
@@ChenoodleSoupMJ INCELS MAD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 MJ 1-9 without Scottie. Cant even get pass the first round with out Scottie pippen. MJ groupies are delusional 😂. Pippen almost made to the ecf. Jordan can't even get in the playoffs without him. 😂 COPE LEBRON GOAT 😂🤡🤡🤡.
@@coreythomas3633 lmao what are you even talking about ? You wrote all that for what ? You’re not gonna convince anyone that Jordan was bad or Scottie somehow saved Jordan. Get over it and go outside
I love this pod cast! Great job by PG🙏🏾 and god bless the logo Jerry West!
THE LOGO. His wisdom and laid backness makes him my favs. I know he got stories for days.
Crazy he’s 85 he doesn’t seem that old tbh
Jerry West! Alot of respect for this man. Huge fan!
As much as I love MJ, Jerry West is the ultimate logo. One of the greatest NBA players, as well as one of the greatest execs/managers. He's the blueprint for being involved with the league from start to finish.
I get Jerry’s bewilderment over Pippen’s comments. To me, Scottie’s behavior is rooted in old animosities - not specifically about MJ necessarily, but about his contracts, the last 5 seconds sit down, etc. I think he has a very thin skin and felt dissed by The Last Dance.
You can tell PG got a deep respect for Jerry West….
Jerry West, always a class act
In the 1970s this guy was already a goat to us kids. I am a celtics fan.
“I don’t think I should answer that” even the logo himself wouldn’t give Mike a chance to take it personal 🤔😅
Fun fact: the iconic NBA logo, that is a silhouette of Jerry West during a game.
I so wish Kobe had lived to be part of that all star weekend , for him to be around all those greats
I love you Kobe!!!!
I NEED A D.ROSE POD PLEASE
Jerry West for President!
RIP Logo you were a legend!
The NBA should never ever change the logo from Mr. West. Hes such a great personification of the sport of basketball.
REST IN PEACE MR WEST 🫡❤️🕊️
They better keep Jerry West as the LOGO of the league.
He's of everythjng you want as an NBA player. Honestly.
Yep.
We need a logo that reflects the majority of the league, and that’s Jordan this logo was cool for the 50s-60s but the league has drastically changed now
@puncho8799. Stop being a racist
@@Biggiiful I’m not being racist I’m speaking the truth even Jerry West years ago in an interview said Jordan should be the logo
@@puncho8799It’s a global brand so a new logo would cost them billions over the many years it would take to burn the new one into our heads. They’d be dumb to change it and they ain’t dumb😂
RIP to the Logo.😢
Liked past tense
PG is WORKING
Maybe somebody wouldn't accept the call 😢
Pg humble attitude mskes the show work
I literally grew up watching both from day 1, and MJ since McDonald's & PanAm games. It was evident Scottie could be a beast, as a rookie, but to watch those guys grow up together, as NBA players, lose Oak, get Grant & Phil, grow beyond their career long Detroit & Boston handicaps, and win 3 straight Championships?!? Man, Shaq + Penny was exclusively built because Mike had "arrived" by 1988, and Pippen was coming. Pippen reached his point of positional dominance, and held it for a decade. Grant Hill was a challenger, but he got injured. It's unheard of for a SG & SF duo to go 6-0 in the finals, with both being the best at their positions, worldwide, nearly the entire time. I think we're forgetting the root causes for Pippen's recent...uh...difficulties? The segment in The Last Dance where Scottie's CONTRACT decisions damaged him. He never got paid his true value, in Chicago. He got his 1st BIG MONEY after the 1996-98 3-peat; after Their Last Dance. This, with everyone in the house on lockdown, and he was still getting buzz about Future & Larsa. Bad timing, and both sore spots. Prior to the documentary in the pandemic, they were good. It started getting bad with the Future stuff putting his private stuff in the streets, then MJ spoke on his money being short because of his business decisions being attached to his view of his family condition. He rushed into a bad contract because it made things better right now, yet things were already under control & rushing to sign a lowball offer was a mistake for the best player at his position & multi-championship winner. It rubbed him the wrong way, and he's yet to recover.
Nah he wasn't not low balled. He took a safe contract, despite all the discouragement from eryone including bulls management but he still went through with it. Ain't nobody's fault but Pippen
@anakinskywalker9712 Bingo that's the whole issue pretty much I think Pippen is pissed he didn't get better people around him to look out for his interests ,Jordan had David Faulk to take care of all the financial stuff for Jordan and Pippen never did.
This right here is how you age.
Its just unbelievable that the great jerry west is 85 years old
Jerry had a classy take on Scottie losing his mind
Yeah I think ima roll with Gabe and KCP
RIP Jerry "the Logo" West! 🙏🙏🙏
Thats a funny pic with a all the former lakers and lil Isiah trying to sneak in lmao
RIP Logo
Imo it’s become toxic when the 🐐 debates come up. Because what I’ve noticed is that MJ Stan’s want to give as little to no credit to Scottie when in reality Scottie was a top 5 player in his prime.
Don’t get me wrong MJ is better but what I’ve seen is when people debate MJ and Bron that throw shade on Scottie. And honestly I can see it, from Scotties perspective he gets no credit. J look at last dance what was supposed to be about the bulls team, was mainly about MJ and how great he was. Not much bout the team more like all MJ and some bulls.
Same as Bron fans never acknowledge Dwade, Bosh, Kyrie, AD, Mo Williams, coach Mike Brown, and Spoelstra in all LBJ legacy, they all talk as LBJ was a One man team
Scotties isn't even on the same universe as MJ. This is nothing like Shaq-Kobe we're talking here.
@@truth2219 everyone knew what the documentary was going to be about it was mainly going to be about Jordan, but also talk about his teammates. That’s the same way the Lebron fans don’t talk about his teammates when it comes to the goat debate. Like they didn’t play a big part in him winning championships.
@@gamambaye nah in that case it’s always when he wins “Bron got saved” and when they lose “he choked” even this past season he caught more blame than Anthony Davis who is 8 years younger and was far worse in the playoffs.
Rip logo
Logo!
I don't think there were many bonds in that great Bulls team. Just great players that worked well together, with a great coach who was a terrific man-manager. They even left Luc Longley out of 'The Last Dance' completely. ....like the dude had nothing to do with their titles....They had great defensive and offensive players, but I don't think for a second that they were a close team....
He created a lot of championship teams.
I honestly hope they never change the NBA logo.
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RIP Jerry West
Why was melo there?
During 30 years, pippen said only great things about MJ.
Since the last dance everything changed
Scottie doesn’t get his respect it’s plain and simple
Nope. He got petty and was trying to create a noise for his book and tequila. And most can understand knowing he went broke and his wife creating a negative impact on his name, he has to think of other ways to distract people.
Mj literally said he don’t win 6 without him. What more could he ask for.
Robin wants people to think he was Batman. It just doesn't work that way. At least for the old heads and kids who actually know basketball.
Truth is that he was a weak willed player until he finally manned up in 91, developed into one of the great all around players then became inconsistent and fragile towards the end of the Bulls dynasty. His Portland and Houston stints were quite forgettable. The props he has been given is enough.
That’s bullshit. He’s on the top 75 list & was on the top 50 list. He was on the original Dream Team & MJ has always said that he wouldn’t have won those championships without him. Your comment makes no sense & isn’t factual. Period.
let scottie speak his piece ... agree or disagree.
People forget it started cuz mike took shots at him for no reason in the last dance. Mike wasnt even on the team in 94 but had a negative segment on scottie.
@@jamesjohnson-rr9gp But Scottie still somehow agreed to be interviewed about the incident. Strange. Either way, the one-sided beef didn't start there. Scottie has been envious of Mike since the 90s. He purposely didn't give MJ condolences when his dad was murdered. The Last Dance is not even the tip of the iceberg.
@@jamesjohnson-rr9gpHe was showing love to Toni Kukoc because he did hit the shot that won the game Pippen just happen not to want to go back in the game at that moment
@@puncho8799 dam Mj perfect in yall eyes.
@@jamesjohnson-rr9gp Jordan is not perfect, but his game is the closest to being perfect
I always enjoyed the way Paul played, but after listening to him on this podcast I really like the guy. That dude at the end needs to stop clowning and trying so hard. He's cringe.
MJ son is knocking down Scotties ex wife now would explain a lot
There has been many guys that has had sex with his wife. He’s not go after them in this way.
Portland was a C-H away from beating the Laker and winning the chip. If they don’t fold - Scottie has 7. That would have made these kind of conversations more interesting.
How so? Nobody says Pippen was a bad player. He himself diminshes his own legacy with his stupid comments these days.
Jordan has always given him his props. Even in the doc he said you can't say Michael Jordan without Scottie Pippen.
When Scottie Pippen was inducted into the hall of fame Jordan was standing right next to him like a proud big brother.
Pippen is hurting bad because of all the shit that has happened to him. And he's lashing out at people that love him. It's just sad to see.
@@Cain353 - I don’t discount anything you’re saying - but it seems lately Pippen is trying to establish that he he is NOT Robin to Jordan’s Batmen. And a chip away from Jordan would make that conversation more interesting
@@maddymud But that's just a what if.
If the East wasn't absolutely loaded in the 80's Jordan could have made it to the Finals without Pippen.
@@maddymudNot really because he wasn’t the main guy/superstar on the team
Scottie isn’t jealous of Michael, the documentary “The Last Dance” threw Scottie under the bus and Michael son Marcus is dating Scotties ex-wife who is the mother of Scotties kids
Scottie doesn't understand how fans saw him in The Last Dance at all. The entire reaction to that series was basically, "I love these guys." Great team, great time. Loved to see Scottie and Kerr and Rodman and Phil and BJ Armstrong and even Horace Grant - who actually doesn't have the best relationship with some of them. Horace Grant gets it though - he understands that the reaction to that documentary was just positive across the board. Pippen feels insulted but its in his head. Fans loved it. They love him too, they just wish he could see it.
@@johnray527 i agree with you
@@johnray527 This isn't true, specifically with Horace Grant. He literally ran to Jason Whitlock (then with FoxSports), and told him how rough MJ was on him; Jordan wouldn't let him eat on a plane ride one time. I'm not siding with Grant, I'm just pointing out that Grant's always had issues with Jordan, saying stuff going back to their first 3-peat (via the press). Frankly, the first time I heard Pippen making remarks about Jordan, I assumed that it was on the heels of Horace Grant getting on the phone and getting in Scottie's ears; pointing out Pippen's lack of appearances in The Last Dance.
Grant runs hot and cold with Jordan (in interviews), not to mention his time with the Lakers. He was the highest paid player in the league for at least a few years (when he was with Orlando), and I've never felt that Grant has ever been appreciative playing with Jordan. Perhaps "once in a while", but never fully. It depends on who's talking to him, and what he can get away with saying.
The last dance told the truth. If the truth paints you in a bad light that’s on you.
Under the bus??? The shot really happened. And Scottie got to watch the doc before it came out. It’s jealousy and envy
The fact that Melo made the top 75 team over Dwight Howard, one of the best rim protectors and bigs the game has ever seen, who actually impacted winning is pathetic.
Melo was a better player than Dwight Howard. Dame Lillard getting in over Dwight is ridiculous. Dwight was the dominant big man in the NBA for almost a decade. He also went head to head with Lebron and won.
@@selfmade8884 Melo not by any metric besides scoring is he a better player than Dwight Howard. Melo isn't even Jimmy Butler, Klay Thompson, both impacted winning at a way higher level and will leave a greater legacy... There isn't a soul who knows even a little about basketball who would take Melo over Butler in a 7 game series.
@@selfmade8884 Dwight Howard's plus minus is literally 2x higher for career than Melo's, while having a shorter career.... That is a clear indicator on who impacts winning more. Can Melo defend like howard? No. Cone. Can he rebound like Howard? No. & Howard was an underrated passer, surround him with 3 pt shooters and you had a contending team... So based on what is he a better player when Howard's career plus minus is almost 3,000.... and Melo's is 1,500.... Kobe 4,100.. LeBron the bench mark 7,200.... & not to mention Howard is universally recognized by his peers as one of, if not the greatest rim protectors the game has ever seen. Melo isn't recognized as the greatest of anything besides maybe being an underachiever.
@matt3003 Yeah, its pathetic a perennial underachiever made the list. When we can name countless players who impacted winning at the highest level more.
@@optimalpowersimracing6625
Stat geeks like you try to cherry-pick stats to make your point. Of course Dwight defends and rebounds better than Melo he was a center. Plus/minus is also a flawed stat because it doesn’t account for who is on the court with you. At his peak Melo was one of the greatest scorers in nba history and a great rebounder for his position. He was objectively a better player than Dwight at both of there peaks and he was more durable.
Lol Jerry knows MJ>>> Lebron
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Tbf lotsa folks do :D
Pippen is petty and that seems to be the root of a lot of how he deals with things. I mean, I get that him and the Bulls were not seeing eye to eye, but to delay surgery and take a "vacation" on company's time but taking into account that you are in a historical run and a team game, that's quite selfish and petty. The Bulls front office was effing up everybody, not just him. There was also the time that he got pissed because he wanted to take the last shot and that went over his head ABOVE winning. It's clear that he has some issues.
MJ undoubtedly is maybe the greatest NBA player to ever play the game. But let's face it, you can't go through a career rubbing some people the wrong way and expect them to sing your praises. Some just aren't built that way. As fans, we only see the games played on the court. Its the games off the court that we don't see that tell a different story. So, I cannot knock anybody who actually played with somebody for whatever feelings or personal bias they may have or feel about that person.
PG thought he was slick sticking Melo’s name in there. He don’t belong in that convo
He ain’t telling NO stories lol he is smooth with it! Lol MJ got everyone on lips on lock lol
Jerry West was a scratch or plus player for years. No way Jordan ever beat him straight up.
I used to like Jerry West, then he told me he eats dogs. Now I'm on the fence.
Eh?
That top 75 list need a serious redo
They know not to say nothing bad about MJ, they seen what happened to Barkley, he cut his ass off completely 😂
Attacking MJ stop it!
What went wrong with MJ and Pip relationship... simple, MJ Son and Pip Ex Wife doing it up😅
Can you imagine Jordan , Kobe or even Malone taking out so much time to consistently do a PODCAST while still playing in the nba . That’s why this dude has no ring ..🤦🏾♂️ should be practicing
Boricua Hispanic Indian n black Iam.. jordan was a great player . But Pippen was more talent Phil Jackson say that pippen have each players the skills. The problem is the way you acting to other players, Pippen like to help his teammates went Jordan try to pushing to be better player. But Pippen was like a teacher n Steve Kerr say that. Horace say Pippen was very friendly to hem n they act like brother.pippen teammates love hem . Went Jordan punch in the face to steve kerr , say to horace he was a trash player. Tim Duncan was special player you have to be like tim Duncan he love his teammates. If you want to win championship, you teammates is your helper. I have Jordan card n i love his game but how you are with other people. If you have money n power but not have love you don't have nothing like the Bible says. I like shaq O'Neill he help many people that love . Pippen have some problem his son die his ex wife acting like little girl n go out with jordan son. If they do it to you how you feel . Just think.
People need to stop acting like they don't know why he upset Jordan been shitin on him his whole career even after retirement 🤣
I guess saying without Scottie I don’t win any of my championships is shitting on him he always says if you say my name you have to say Pippen right after 🙄🥱
This is why nobody is listening to Pippen lol. The way he’s talking sht to Jordan nowadays is like a fan who DESPERATELY wants Lebron to be the GOAT. And he would do anything to change Jordan’s legacy. Even to the point of being insane and delusional. The way he’s trashing Jordan is sad, you almost feel pity for him. Add in the fact that just a few years ago, he was saying nothing but praises for Jordan.
This is like, let’s say for example, DWade became insane and start talking sht about Lebron’s career. Downplaying all his achievements. Would you believe him? Absolutely not. You would think DWade is high and needs help mentally. That’s what’s happening with Pippen nowadays.
We all know Kawhi and PG can be great but they're never both healthy and playing
Scottie’s going through it in his personal life, and the interviewer is trash for not bringing that up
The only acceptable player that deserves to be the logo after jerry is Kobe
Jordan
People acting dumb like they don’t know why Scottie acting like this. This man mj disrespected that man on his documentary.
But how? Nothing in the documentary was a lie. He had a migraine left Jordan stranded. He refused to come in cos Kukoc had the final shot. He chose his contract and chose to chill in the summer rather than get surgery done on his back. Now whether all of that needed to be in the documentary is a different debate. I mean the contract and back injury was definitely in context of the final season, the migraine and Kukoc moment maybe not so much. But seriously they needed each other to win and MJ has said that numerous times. MJ retired first but not after in helped the team win a 3 peat I mean come on now.
Jordan put a lot of things in the documentary about himself that he’s not proud of, and had to answer for so why would you want him to hide anything about his teammates? Nothing he said was a lie.
People forget Michael fucked Scottie in his documentary. It wasn’t necessary to do that to a teammate that you won so much. Michael always gets a pass for everything