Manual Vs Dsg On The 3.2 TT
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2022
- It's time we took this show on the road, I drive and compare both along with alex who has never driven a dsg TT, which will be victorious 😁
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Cool to see a fellow TT guy on the video and great video of manual and DSG
thanks joe, plenty more videos like this to look forward too as well 😎
Great video always Dom! fully enjoyed coming down to record this one 🔥🔥
The man himself! Glad you enjoyed it, was a pleasure to film 👌🏻
Hhmmmm you know you need a manual now Dom....a great video with great cars👍🏻😃
It’s funny you say that, it may not be quite what your thinking but don’t miss 6pm tonight 😂
Yes yes yes quality vid Dom! Alex is too funny “once you pop you can’t stop” 😂🤣
😂😂😂
I know right haha
Thanks!
A good afternoon was had by all 😎
Very much so mate
Love you guys, valuable and informative. Over the years I've owned a fair few Audi's, amongst others an 84 B reg 200 Turbo, an Urr Quattro on an 87 D plate......showing my age. My current lineup is a 2005 S4 4.2 V8, Cab, Tip, 2016 S8 4.0 V8 TT and my latest purchase this year a manual 3.2 2007 TT Cab. having covered 60K. Interesting to make the comparison between the 3.2 Manual and Auto. I bought the TT because I missed changing gears. Now if I'd have bought an S4 with a manual , I may never have succumbed to a TT.😄😃
Thank you for the kind words, yes you are showing your age a little ha ha, sounds like you have a nice mix of cars which is what I like because the bigger cars don't drive the same as the smaller cars even if they have less power. You can't beat the sound of a V8 but the V6 is very close. Sounds like you are well and truly a petrol head 😎
Really great vid!👍
Glad you think so! appreciate the comment
Enjoyed this one, always good to hear opinions on the difference 👌🏻
thanks for watching, i agree always nice to see what other people have feedback wise and glad alex appreciated the new suspension as im loving ut
@@TheParrottBros yeah man, think you’ve made him want to get another!
Great video as always, all these v6 videos are putting me in the mood for one
Thanks buddy, I will warn you now 2 TT’s are not for the faint hearted 😂
I’m looking to get the V6 ideally manual as I’ve never driven auto
@robertholmes414 did you get one?
The hidden look of terror on your face watching someone else drive "at the speed limit" is priceless lol. Good vid as always bud :)
😂 I love it mate, I was just keeping an eye on the fuel gauge really 👀 liquid gold nowadays 😁
great vid Dom and good to see Alex. I love the dsg on my mk2 and have driven a dsg on the mk1 I find the mk1 is good but not as quick and responsive as what's in the mk2
Thanks buddy, we had a great afternoon chatting TT’s and driving around. It’s a tough one as always nice to have a dsg car on the drive for those lazy drives and long cruises.
Quality video! Sounds about right, manual for uber control and fun, DSG for cruising and having a laugh when you want to still - DSG is still on top for me, purely for the lazyness I can abuse 😆 I didn't realise they were the same as the 225 box on the manual one - makes sense though I guess! You could always try a manual conversion Dom...
I would rather buy a manual than trying to converting one 😂😂 I’ve not got enough time to get my to do lists done without a build like that 😂
@@TheParrottBros 😆
Nice, I have two lovely TTs to play with too ;) 8J RS manual & 8J VR6 DSG. I like both of them for different reasons, problem is so does my Mrs and she makes me nervous when she drives the RS
Thats a lovely pair for sure, in the wrong hands the Rs could be a serious weapon haha
Great video some really good points made. Such a personal choice and also what you really want out of the car or what other cars you may have.
Think I’d punt dsg as I’d like it more for daily driving/cruiser and I’m super lazy 🤣👍
I couldn’t agree more it’s so subjective on what you want it for, what your using it for & how lazy you like cruising 😂. Not gonna lie it makes doing distance a pleasure
Both have their own merits but old school manual for me.
Cannot argue with that
Great video it seems to be personal preference of how you want to drive I have the DSG and I’ve never driven a v6 manual but if had the choice again I think I would go for the manual 😁👌
It’s a funny one isn’t it, I like having a dsg in my collection for when on road trips as it’s perfect for cruising 😊
Yayy i waited😊
The look on your face said "just hurry up and get the car back in one piece" (when he started ragging it)
😂 I’m very expressive facially, can’t play poker that’s for sure. I enjoy others driving and I’m passenger
For an entry level DSG it is an amazing bit of kit.
It must have been better than most on the market at the time for sure
Thanks! Good engine sounds, good points for both of them, very good production level. I have to follow you! 😁
And yes the question... Just bought a -03 A3 Quattro 3.2 with manual. Of course the manual for me, using the stick the right way is an important way of self expression! But while 3.2 has some extra nose weight and the nature of the engine is more like a cruiser than a fast cornerer, dsg is not a bad idea at all even from my point of view 😊
Thank you, the engine is beautiful, sounds great, runs smooth and pulls well! no gripes there just hard to pick which transmission suits best, you are right it is more of a fast road cruiser for sure
Two words fits impecable with a 3.2mk1: Tunnels & Autobahn.
Nice Video 😊
Thanks 😄
Great video as always. Glad I got a manual as I think the DSG feels disconnected to the driver (you let the car do its thing rather than being fully connected). Regardless, would be fun to try one one day!
The dsg is a totally different drive and it does depend on what you like and want to do with the car, you certainly wouldn’t be disappointed with one I’m sure but if you enjoy the manual drive then for sure
I feel More connected with the DSG because it gives me instantaneous, perfect shifts. I just have to pay attention to controlling the car, not pushing my feet and arm about. In Sport mode it will delay shifting till redline and when decelerating will downshift earlier to keep the engine in its powerband…. But I STILL retain full control with the paddles and can override the auto system and shift as and when I choose. It’s more durable than a manual because you even if you drive it hard you CAN’T burn the clutch, can’t fail to push the clutch all the way in, can’t miss a shift or choose the wrong gear. Can’t grind a gear, can’t exceed redline and can’t lug the engine. Mine had run 132k miles without a single engine or transmission problem,
But even better, in normal auto mode, it will drive like an automatic, which is a godsend when you are stuck in bumper to bumper traffic. Or when you want to have a sip of coffee. But at any moment I can tap the paddle to downshift and the car leaps forward. Or downshift as I make my exit to compression brake and extend my brake life. And that low end torque will shift the car into 6th at 35 mph and above, giving that 250 hp car a 30 mpg fuel economy.
That is, it has all the benefits of a manual, and it has all of the benefits of an automatic, with none of the shortcomings of either an automatic nor a manual. The DSG is what every performance car should have. It’s no accident that after Audi put it in the TT and the VW, that Porsche wanted a 7 speed version for their cars. And a version for the Bugatti Veyron.
Great side by side lads. I have just rewatched it on something bigger than an Iphone. It is great to hear the opinions on manual vs DSG with you both driving them. I think Alex secretly loves that DSG box! His reaction in "Sport Mode" speaks volumes! Great to see Leonie joining the gang. There seems to be a lot of bad press on the DSG but personally, I love it. Effortless driving to all of these car meets. Which are you bringing to Ockham Bites Alex?
Thanks Andy! ye I actually like the DSG box tbh! its very convenient. Ye I will be bringing both to the Ockham bites meet! they may also be surprise addition to the 3.2. 😎
Great comparison video :) V6 should be DSG in my opinion, its a cruiser, manual for 225 :D
Everyone needs at least one auto in their life right
Just bought a 225 very nice drive 👍
Congratulations and welcome aboard!
Thank you first car at 18 was Audi coupe gt 80 still lovely cars
Belle vidéo 👌 😉. Perso sur mon TT MK2 c une boîte manuelle et je trouve plus sportif que la Dsg que g eu l'occasion de posséder. 😉👍
Oui, je peux tout à fait comprendre cela, c'est une préférence personnelle. La plupart des gars de la voiture préfèrent les manuels, mais il y a quelque chose de bien dans un croiseur automobile
@@TheParrottBros 👍 Oui je suis d'accord avec toi 😉.
Nice video guys and an Interesting comparison, I'm wondering about picking up a V6 myself but have been looking at Mk2 TT's as well as the OG MkI
As for the PDK Porsche box Audi first used it in 1986 in the Quattro Sport S1 rally car for a couple of rallies as part of the testing and Audi UK's heritage S1 was fitted with a PDK box but it's now been returned to a manual.
Its a tough one, i would recommend driving each before making a decision. If your local welcome to come and have a spin in mine
@@TheParrottBros Thanks for the kind offer, wrong end of the country sadly cheers though.
What is the road tax on the V6? I've seen some claiming £615 and others saying it's £360? Are the coupe lower than the roadsters or is that just for mk2?
@@bat33.12 Yeah mk1's pre 2005 are deffo 360, im not sure when but in 2006 it changed so some may be more
I’m still prefer for the manual V6 personally to whatever the DSG is the fastest auto on earth, sadly this one is difficult to find in my place, Mostly Dealer had only offered DSG at that time, Despite I will keep my 225 forever I still want to have 240 SQ ,this one is unique & rare or lastly This V6 !
One thing, as always as awesome your vid’s I love it so much plus helping us to maintain TT too .
Now, If you don’t mind and basically I wish eventhough this one is not your personal taste especially by design but it’s a bit rare since it’s discontinued by Audi yes The S1 2.0 that’s not so much on the roads but in the UK probably there are many, I purchased new 6 years ago and it’s ow still like new at 16K ( km) I don’t drive much like my 20 yrs old 225 but this small manual one is utterly 💨too ! Maybe can be your future project to show too along with our lovely TT, in case just “probably “.
Yes the soundtrack of V6 is awesome as your Channel duh..😍
Thanks for the channel support means a lot!
yeah the s1's are a very cool car and by all accounts tune up quite well too, having not driven one yet i cant say first hand but maybe i will have to try one out :)
Yeah the v6 has a lovely sound track thats kind of the only reason i wanted one haha, its tough as the dsg is the ultimate fast cruise option but the manual is for the back road racers, its very much which you prefer or if you lucky enough get both ;)
@@TheParrottBros who knows when the idea at the limit of the corner 😁and I quietly feel safe along because you’ll be going to ( probability)* btw Thank you so much just replaced the fuel pump on TT successfully and now it’s nice daily again
Come on Dom get a DSG remap !!
Just want to know if it's much better before I spend 🤣🤣
We are at badger 5 at the weekend so I’ll certainly ask the question for you
Hola , que caja de cambios manual se le podría meter al 3.2 dsg? Para pasarlo de automático a manual
Got a manual tt 3.2 147.000 miles, clutch and chains have never been touched still original from factory!
That’s great to hear, with the right servicing and sympathetic driving a car could last forever
@@TheParrottBros100% agree bud, bulletproof engines if looked after. There's a local guy to me that has one with 250.000 ! Lol....
Subject Close to my Heart…really like the DSG plenty of power .don’t service a dsg oil change if u can help it .had no problem until i put mine in for dsg oil change then bang ..mechatronic unit failed .fortunately 800 for it reconditioned better than 2k ..Can end up a money 💰 pit ..
Its a tough one isnt it as that could have been totally coincidental and it was ready to fail at any time, i find this a lot with my tt's haha, fix one thing find another issue haah
@@TheParrottBros tell me about it ..thru an mot last week nothing major..front wheel bairings fixed ..week later left now gone FFS ..one thing then another..🫤
Shocked to see Alex without his Noggy!!!!! Sooooo Dom...When are you getting your manual???😉...I haven't driven a DSG...prefer to change gear myself....so maybe not much of an informed opinion.
Haha I know right, so strange 😂. Haha I was waiting for you to say that I could hear you saying it 😂. If someone was to offer me one that needed work for the right price then it could happen 😅
@@TheParrottBros Hahahahahahaha You know it makes sense🤣
I’m still looking Dom! And I still don’t know dsg or manual!
If your local your welcome to come and have a go, petrol will be charged at cost £1 a meter 😂
@@TheParrottBros Is Snowdonia local?😂🤦🏼
@@Chips690 not in the slightest 😂
Does the dsg have cruise control and how do you turn it on? Got told by several people there should be cruise but never got around finding it haha
you can have cruise from factory or it can be retro fitted, its just a single button on the end of the indicator stalk on and off, set resume
etc
Forget the manual. I sure wouldn’t buy a Mk 1 TT with a manual, because you can be certain a former driver mis-shifted, lugged, and ran the engine into redline. Guys mistreat manuals.
Manuals don’t really give you greater ‘control’ than the DSG- they give you greater opportunity to damage the transmission and engine, because no one, No where, can outshift the DSG. The DSG enables me to instantly shift without moving my hand from the wheel, and if I am in normal drive mode, it will stay in manual mode for about 30 seconds, and then default back to auto shift. Which comes in handy when I suddenly have to climb a grade, or compression brake, or even instantly react to a road condition that requires horsepower.
Or I can flip it into Sport mode, enjoy that much deeper exhaust note, and get optimal performance with optimal road holding, yet secure in the knowledge that it will still auto shift up if I hit redline, or downshift if the tach is getting near lugging. Which frees my attention for the situation on the road, and not having to keep one eye on the dash.
I have had a 2005 3.2 DSG TT Quattro Sline for 17 years. It’s been my daily driver for nearly all that time, and it still runs perfectly. I was a little worried about all the negative predictions around how fragile and expensive the DSG would end up being, but mine has never had the slightest issue. The only time I ever had what seemed like a transmission issue, with it missing shifts, it turned out to be a bad $45 brake light switch. ( The DSG uses input from the brake switch to determine whether you are accelerating, decelerating, or driving at a steady speed so it can pre-select the correct next gear.)
So my experience is the DSG has protected my engine and transmission. And It performs better than the performance manuals I test drove; The TT really needs that extra 25 horsepower over the 225. And it really really needs that extra low end torque.
Additionally, because of that low end torque, the DSG will shift into 6th gear at 35 mph. Which nets me close to 30 mpg in normal drive mode.
The Mk 1 DSG TT Quattro was the very best version of the very Best car Audi ever made. A genuinely useable sports car with some real load space. A design tour de force, that makes just enough noise, when you want it to, to be present, without annoying the hell out of everyone.
Is there a resonator delete pipe available because I can't find one. Perhaps a r32 system is similar 🤷🏽♂️
I’ve not found one, leave it with me and I’ll have a look
Help......Darn my Dsg 3.2 doesn't sound like that, can you tell me what exhaust and suspension have you got please?
Yeah sure, it’s a scorpion non resonated cat back
Suspension is H&r shocks and springs with powerflex top mounts and front wishbone bushes.
I did a video on it not long ago 😊
How reliable and affordable are they to repair? I had a A1 DSG which I loved but the mechatronics went on it. There's a few companies who can repair it cheap but it was out of action for a 2 weeks.
There are plenty of company’s that can do the repairs it’s just the cost. Usually tots up to £1500 odd
Reliability wise they seem to be pretty good, still plenty of them out on the road just hear the bad story’s
@@TheParrottBros Yeah that's true! Something to factor in!
my reasoning is as follows , if its a old car (15-20+ years) i go for manual all day , best bet is the engine is better for a manual(ie better noise fuck the power and better response from a mechanical engine) if it is a newer car (ie max 10 years) i go for auto all day , chances are the engine is shit as far as a enthusiasts and pure driving and id rather be comfy and fast as fuck . so i have a manual focus st170 with alu flywheel and auto audi b8 bought in 2016 so i have the best of both , manual focus for pleasure and auto 700+hp audi to scare the crap out of me . if it were me id get a manual vr6 with a camshaft upgrade and aluminium flywheel (i can not bear steel or twin flywheels now , who has time to wait for revvs to go up)
Could you please help me with some advice I have a mk1 automatic 2004 1.8 not a dsg could you please give me some advice on how to change the gearbox oil, it has 104 thousand on the clock and I have no record of whether the oil has ever been changed.
Yours Geoff HAMMERSLEY
Just had a quick look at the bentley manual and it looks like you fill and drain from the bottom, you have to put a tool in to fill it up through the overflow.
This video should be a similar set up to yours
czcams.com/video/iHFmZVH9uEo/video.html
@@TheParrottBros thanks very much for taking the trouble, it does look a real faff.
I have the auto 2004 and when the car is too cold or too hot I get erratic gear changes I feel the oil needs changing mine has 90,000km on it. I hope its the oil
So what is the suspension setup in the dsg one then?
Its a H&R Shocks and springs set up, Poly bushed front wishbones, adjustable rear arms, then full alignment set up
i have a video going through it all
DSG fan ,always use paddles 👍🏻
I’ll be honest I use the paddles the least, if I’m feeling fruity I use sport mostly 😂
Hi Parrot head. Why didn't you get the Mk2. That auto box is good.
My passion and focus is on the mk1 at present. The early mk2 gearbox is ok but known for issues as well, I’ve been in a few with lurching into reverse, delayed pull off and more 😅. This is just a mk1 comparison. More mk1 Vs mk2 videos coming up in the future
@@TheParrottBros oh I see. I've got a mk2 v6 parrot head if you want to use one.
At the world turns electric, the more manual and analogue the better. Just like watches...
I’ve just bought a 2004 3.2 DSG for £1800. I imagine I’m in for a lot of problems.
Without any more info i would say at that price you will likely have a few things to do 😂
@@TheParrottBros it failed it’s MOT the day before I bought it, with just a rust-holed sill. I’m hoping this can be patched. I also now notice the rear passenger wheel has too much negative camber. A small oil weep at the engine, and VCDS shows about 20 codes. I’ll fix the camber and sill, get it MOTed and see what problems I’m left with after actually driving it for a while. Might be fun, nice wee car.
@@salzar4431 the sill will probably be a rusted cover rather than the structural sill itself. They’re a bolt on part 👍🏻
Get a manual dom lol