$5,000 Worth of BROKEN Laptops - Extended Cut
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- $5,000 Worth of BROKEN Laptops - Extended Cut - One laptop is overheating, and the other has a flickering screen... Let's see what we will have to fix this time! With both laptops having a combined value of $5,000 one thing is for certain - there are some high stakes here. Let's see if we can get them working again.
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I believe that the "problem" with the Razor fans can be configured from the bios.
For the display it would have been good if it were tested with an external monitor, that way it can be ruled out that it is a problem with the video card
Yeah. The fans were louder after the "fix" than they were before it. The display problem was a sensor issue and nothing to do with drivers.
Steve, you need to mention that you have a long-form channel on your main one, I’ve only just seen it in my recommendation list today 😮
Lots to catch-up on ... keep up the great work 😀👍
You CAN use nail polish in place of that product you're using. It enamel paint, basically.
Are you sure that laptop just doesn't have a performance fan profile enabled? Like on my pc, I can ramp my fans to full blast if I want, or quiet mode.
Copper heat sinks and liquid metal for cooling aren't always the best of friends. I hope you checked compatibility before applying. You risk your heat sink getting oxidized away if the two materials aren't compatible.
It's fine, the heatsink will absorb a thin layer of liquid metal, so you should redo it after a month, so you have enough on the ic's, but it doesn't affect anything.
Yeah, he is creating a thermocouple, not cool! Although I don't know much about thermocouple, I know enough that 2 metals in junction would create a voltage when heat is present.
@@MizuhoChan
One month is not a long time.
*Aluminum heatsinks and liquid metal arent always the best of friends
You're thinking of aluminum. Liquid metal contains gallium and will eat away at aluminum, but copper is perfectly fine.
You might also give PTM 7950 a go for systems like this. Its a lot less risky for surrounding electronics
He started fixing laptops now!
Time to learn how reball chips, sir!
Oh yeah, I remember the first laptop!
Copper will soak up the liquid metal. Will need to be checked periodically and re-applied. Nickel plated copper is preferred to use with liquid metal.
What about the voltage generated by heat? Should we minimized it.
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Hi Steve, Maybe you have to do layer of liquid metal over time as it will work into the copper. The second notebook you need to install the latest Intel drivers, as it currently uses the standard Windows drivers (the checkbox was not available). You can obtain the drivers through Windows Update or the Intel website.
Using liquid metal in laptop without foam barrier is asking for a serious problem.
Hence the conformal coating
just what i thouth to it´s gonna be a mess
I would have personally done both, especially if it was going to be in a backpack or travelling
@@waynetaylor2784 you still need a foam barrier to protect the rest of the motherboard.
@@gildardo liquid metal won't run that far
"ramps up at login screen": windows fires a lot of services up at the login screen. i have a power meter in my psu. normally the psu is 60w idle, and at the login screen it jumps straight to 120w. so don't compare the login screen with idle, that's happening a lot in the background.
i dont know ... i think there is a reason sony is putting some kind of sponge around it ... i fear that if you put the laptop into a bag and drop it a bit too hard ... the liquid metal might get out
For the video issue on the LG, I would have tested it with an external monitor if possible and see if the problem continued on the secondary monitor.
Had you already checked the temperatures and fan curves and tinkered to see if it was a software issue or did you just dive right in and tear the thing apart to redo the thermal paste? This seems like an overreaction without the substantiating data.
About trying to figure out at the start whether there really is overheating, and where is it, there is, for linux, the easily installed package lm-sensors. And it's possible to create a linux bootable thumb drive... and to boot nearly any laptop from that thumb drive. Once the lm-sensors package is installed, the command "sensors" prints out the temperatures of various components, plus fan speeds.
31:01 I would apply the liquid metal to the copper then wait for a few hours then reapply the liquid metal again because liquid metal will eat into pure copper and dry out without a minimum of 2 coats.
Also I would apply the red coating to some of the gold parts near the chip 15:43
Why use metal picks when cleaning off the thermal paste and not plastic? seems to me it's just asking for trouble...?
He does mention it in the video.
I've been using a hexane based electronics contact cleaner for over 25 years now to remove thermal compound. Does a way better job than IPA and really wicks its way into those tight spots when a heatsink is stuck to the chip.
I would assume there is a thermal sensor somewhere that is not detecting what temperature the system is running at and just defaults to full blast on the Razor. Might be worth going into the BIOS and see if you can determine what temp the system is seeing. Hard to believe the liquid metal would make that much of a difference, but I could be wrong.
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I agree. Liquid metal doesn’t make much difference compared to normal thermal paste
It can make that much of a difference if there wasnt enough thermal paste or the thermal paste wasn't properly applied, which he jokes about in the video when he says "I would say that doesn't look like the perfect amount of thermal paste, but I think I was the one who installed it."
It looked to me like the thermal pads on the heatsink were a bit too thick. Since, the layer of thermal paste on the GPU was quite thick. It didn't get squeezed out by the pressure of the heatsink.
Yeah, it seems so.
As soon as you unplugged that display without disconnecting the battery, I was yelling at my screen. I learned the hard way, a long time ago, to disconnect the battery first.
I had an HP that was left on by mistake and put in a computer bag. It overheated to the point where it crashed. It alway ran hot regardless how clean the heatsink and fans were from then on. It wasn't all that stable after that as well. The only thing I didn't ever check was the thermal paste and I guess it could have cooked the paste out.
For the LG GRAM, you may need to change the Flex cable that connects the screen to the motherboard. It may solve this issue. But i've watched the full vídeo, i don't think the issue was only the driver that makes the screen flikering. That flat cable from the display loose also can cause this issue.
PTM7950 is the way to go in a laptop. When it comes time to redo my Alienware M18r1, it will replace the hybrid liquid metal paste that Dell used.
what is the liquid spray you have used in the past to clean up controller thumbsticks or sticking buttons?
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Won't LM eat up that copper? Don't you need coating of nickel or some other metal so LM don't mess up copper, like soaks into copper and makes a different alloy with LM?
It'll eat aluminium gamers nexus did a test on copper and youll be good with applying on copper
@@nightruler666 He made a video with derbauer who makes the acrtual LM. So he (derbauer) explained the issue is gallium which is corrosive for aluminum and it messes up copper, it DOESN'T corrode it like aluminum, but it makes a different alloy which have different properties than copper.
My comment is really not saying anything else than this.
Also that's why he (derbauer) is nickel plating his copper products so they don't loose original thermal conductivity property.
At the end, everyone should do what they think is the best, I'll listen to manufacturer of LM.
Any tips on where to find a CECHG01 hdmi port that works, without having to buy another console to get it out of D; lol found 1 seller on ebay, but at their price i might as well buy a broken console and take that one's hdmi port. idk :(
Not sure people have to go as far as liquid metal, Giving the fans a good clean and replacing thermal pads and paste with good quality stuff got the heat under control on my HP gaming laptop,
As others have said the fan curve can be changed in the bios.
that large CPU should not have that much thermal paste between the chip and the heatsink. looks like there is a contact r pressure issue.
I agree. I had similar issues on my Asus Rog Strix. Ended up using nylon washers between each screw and the vapor chamber so the screws wouldn't just bottom out. I think this laptop would do well with using PTM7950 rather than standard thermal paste from factory.
You can use some isopropyl alcohol with a brush to clean the old residual thermal paste
Can we address that his perfect amount of paste is a little to much perfect? lol Over the years his perfect amount has gotten bigger and bigger.
Liquid metal corrodes copper doesn't it?? or at least stains it
Nope stains but is OK.. Aluminium n liquid metal big NO
Had an idea. Put cooling paste in all the solder joints then apply Liquid Metal after. Wouldn’t that stop a short and have top cooling at the same time
2:51 "I was gonna say looks like deffinately not the perfect amount but I think im the one that put it that one there, so clearly its gotta be the perfect amount"
I used to fix laptops for a living. One time I had a pink monitor. Didn't matter which laptop it was on. The cable on the monitor side was loose. After I removed it and reseated it, it wasn't pink anymore.
Always check the event log in windows to see if the graphics driver is cashing and restarting.
But wait.. with the intel driver uninstalled the system will fall back to software rendering through the Windows Display Adapter driver. Is it a driver issue with intel or is the GPU on the intel CPU dead?
The mans getting paid well to fix his own stuff. Genius.
Stonks
Reminds me of MoistCritical who streams on twitch, and then takes those clips onto youtube. Doubling up is genius.
Way smarter then cooking meth out in new mexico to afford crippling cancer related debts.
@@Thatonefuckinguy that was very specific 🤣
Hey man, I love your channel. ALSO I belive liquid metal is a bad choice in the laptop, due to its mobile nature. I recommend so tg kryonaut. Also if I had to guess what was going on, you may have a bit too much thermal paste. It looks like rather than filling in the paste gaps it's so much that it's a thermal barrier.
Also, did you check the Temps? Were they actually getting high enough to justify the ramped up fans? Or were the fan curves maybe just off?
I find it hard to believe it would be any harder to take apart a laptop display than a phone screen.
There's one thing i always "CHECK" Before messing with the Laptop/Desktop is Graphics drivers they used to be good but the last 5-6 Years JUNK... Remember one thing everyone "IF ITS NOT BROKE DONT FIX IT" If your Graphics drivers is from 2022 and it works why update them.. I did this Blue screen put them back 100% Fine.....
Sometimes the vapor chamber fails or gets clogged and doesn't work anymore
LUL, i was thinking that looked like a skull.
You may just have a software issue Steve. Malware or misconfigured software or services can take up 100 percent resources on boot snd cause this condition.
Dunno about that LM on a laptop. There is a reason for why Sony is using a foam barrier und ASUS is doing it as well (they have a patented design for it) for their laptops.
Is liquid metal made with baby T-1000 terminators?
If it's going to full on fans immediately, would it not be a software issue rather than hardware?
What about the other 2 smaller fans by the battery
That is the backlight. So it's definitely a plausible cause.
when he applies liquid metal, me: ok and now the terminator T-1000 will hount this laptop. xD sorry for bad english i´m not english
It is nail polish in a fancy bottle, however uv light should be used with hot air to cure it, faster, same as nail polish. All conformal coating same.
Conformal coating will withstand higher heat then nail polish.
@damolin77 nah it's same tested both, clear nail polish is best
I'm still waiting for the next new channel, "Steve's Shorts" 😅 "That's what I'm talkin' about!"
There is also nothing in there to make sure the liquid metal doesn't get out.
Is the Razor Hdd thermostat faulty
what u do with the fixed laptops ?
So for me, with it spinning up as soon as its powered on, and at that point the GPU wont be being called on for very much at all apart from a display, then my mind would go to the CPU thats getting hot thus making the fans rmp, but even then, that CPU would have to be getting hotter for a while to get the fans going the soon and at full tilt, very strange symptoms if you ask me, maybe some software program needed to control the fans, atleast i would have a look with HWInfo or Afterburner, just to see what the temps are and the usage coz its abit strange for the fans to be ramping instantly unless there was a problem, anyway... ive watched 11 minutes, back to it, and be good to see what happens after Liquid metal, for sure will drop the temps by 5 to 10c i imagine, i dont think thats the problem though unless the cpu is at 100c instantly... Maybe it is... Crazy if so.
multi-use product. They seem to have very similar properties though.
ISP would prob dissolve that thermal paste real quick
He's got a couple of things in mind. The perfect amount of THERMAL PASTE?
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I‘ve been told no liquid metal on copper. Is this true?
Is there an expert here who can tell me if a seeback effect is able to generate voltage between heatsink and liquid metal?
Wouldn’t nickel plating that copper prevent damage from the liquid metal be a good idea I have no idea. but watched a do it yourself fella nickel plate the heatsink as he was changing the heatsink layout on a PS5 to make a PS5 tablet of sorts, I am not sure if that happens I just watch videos and am by no means an expert at anything of this sort, so Just asking
i use toothbrush to remove all the TIM sticks in smd around the gpu die and its easy and cleaner too
Messing with the display connector with battery still plugged can cause you're chipset to brake
I noticed that you used some generic thermal paste in your video, much better if you use some reputable brand.
21:40 the battery was still connected💀💀💀
Anyone else call the driver issue when it started doing it as soon as it got into the windows environment?
I had a strong suspicion that the LG screen was due to software and not hardware
Same, the fact that it only started acting up after booting into windows was what made me think this.
You know, for a guy who is going through chemo, you could almost pass as a model. Almost
obrazovka blika . LCD tam senzor magnet chyba. chip remove.
I have a laptop that need ro be fix. Can u please? U can make video out of it
why the hell is razor gluing the chips with that red stuff to the board? because it is fancy? totally useless and harder to replace, if needed.
Ok screw that S how are you doing and your family?
i know its longs but 17% of this video is removing thermal paste lmao
It's not a ps5. The PS5 you want more than you're supposed to use. Normally you should not see a pool anywhere. If you see a pool, it's too much.
hows that a fix by just uninstalling drivers ?? Also liquid metal with just red paint wont do shit
Nice video as usual Steve!!
Piece of advice tough, try opening laptops from the middle of the screen, not from the corners,.
Some displays are really fragile and could crack if the hinge is a bit stiff.
The LG isnt fixed at all 🙈 you just uninstalled drivers.
How are you feeling ?
I wish "I7" or "I3" wasn't used to list the processor. It means nothing. I have an I7-2600. I can promise you 100% even an I3-14100 is a vastly superior processor. So intel gen is more important. So 14th gen I7 would mean something. Ideally it should just be intel 14700 or something like that. 14700 tells me exactly what it is. But even 14th gen I7 means more. Even just 14th gen by itself means more.
Dont do as he does he clearly states its his first time using liquid metal inba laptop .. i work professionally on laptops everyday and some asus laptops come with liquid metal pre applied and they always use some kind of barrier to protect the rest of the board from liquid metal spilling. Google images of asus boards with liquid metal and u can see how they do it
On that LG with the screen flashing, that flashing can be caused by three main things. Failing LCD panel (i.e. back light), display cable, or the GPU faulting and resetting. The smaller connector on that PCB is for the touch screen's digitizer and the cable that runs underneath is for the LCD panel.
6:00 i use an old toothbrush to get rid of all that thermal paste..Much faster, especially when dry.
"Intel graphics are now a competitor!"... No... No it bloody isn't and putting Intel graphics in ANYTHING - IS A GAMBLE - and you damn well better be sure you know how to fix it and make workarounds. I can't believe they stick this crap in professional laptops. Such utter junk! Just because it says Intel on it does NOT justify the level of jank there is with Intel graphics - of all tiers! I just hope they don't do the same crap for the upcoming gen of GPUs
Thermal paste could be irritate your skin, I highly recommend use gloves, since even if you are not allergic it could cause allergy later on or who knows what if its build up in your system( it happened with me). Same with IPA it is not healthy to dry out your skin, then smear some chemical on it.
It didn't like the name Fred :(
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Liquid Metal is only half the battle when it comes to Laptop heat. Don't forget to undervolt your chip, can cause improved performance, with less heat.
If the fans star ramping up again and wont slow back down you may want to try looking for better power management software.
Too bad I can't continuously press the thumbs down button...
if it whas nailpolish it would eat on the chip after a wile.
Good waste of time .
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Like i said.............you don't know what you're doing! Where did you take your diploma??? Do you make money with those videos?
Fix??? Ha ha what a joke! Uninstalling igpu does not mean fix.
Overheating razer swap to liquid metal is not a FIX, it’s a ticking bomb. You need to change that heatsink as the condensation chamber is faulty. So this video is not even close to a FIX!
Toooooooooothbrush, toooooooooothbrush
YES PLEASE, I was anxiety ridden seeing that
Have problem with Acer laptop cleaned fan and repasted still overheats realized later it's latest Windows 10/11 just using Linux no overheating.
You "fixed" the LG laptop by uninstalling the driver? loooool
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