Known Unknowns, the Rolling Stones, and Karl Rove | GoodFellows
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- As the US prepares for a presidential vote (Iowans caucusing in fewer than 50 days) and a temporary truce halts the Israel-Hamas conflict, long-term uncertainty seems the order of the day. Karl Rove, Wall Street Journal political columnist and the “architect” behind George W. Bush’s presidential runs, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson. H.R. McMaster, and John Cochrane to discuss the odds of a Biden-Trump rematch. Next the three fellows analyze the latest in the Middle East, including the peril of a broader regional conflict and the potential for eradicating Hamas. Finally, a “lightning round“ explores Vladimir Putin’s peace overtures, Sam Altman’s return to OpenAI, an ascendant Right on two continents, plus the legacy of the soon-to-be-touring Rolling Stones (Niall having no sympathy for any devil who doesn’t recognize the Stones as the greatest rock band).
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Consistently the best and most thoughtful commentary on current events. Thank you.
Ooooh Karl Rove, let me not waste any time and skip this one.
Courageous of you, but then in your case total ignorance is probably bliss?
When Jagger was not even 40, they were making a comeback in 1981and people were concerned about his age!! I went to their concert at LA Coliseum.
The best political and current affairs program on the internet.
the art of conversation, debate without polemic - the best entertainment and news, on and off the net. thank you good fellows, and bill for an under stated light touch
Only 22 comments? Is everyone out doing RL stuff or something? I watch these guys instead of the news now my trust in MSM has sunk as low as it has. Goodfellas are the best (serious) production on the internet. Well done chaps.
"My Hoover Institution speedo" with sound effect 🤣🤣🤣 HR is a national treasure !!
In my old age I've come to realize life is full of unknown unknowns.
It's always enjoyable to watch the good fellows ,learned a lot every time
Somebody needs to stand up on the debate stage and challenge Trump directly, to have a dialogue about what their "vision of the future " is. The American people deserve to hear it.
You've seen Trump's "vision of the future" in action. Decreased regulations and a robust economy.
He won’t subject himself to it. He doesn’t play a game that he doesn’t write the rules for.
@@MrJoel9679 he won't subject himself to a robust economy?
Another great episode ! Love the split !! Looking forward to to the next one !!
Love this interview! Packed with so much information!
Sadden to hear of the loss of Dr. Kissinger, thankful for the work of Dr. Ferguson to preserve who and what Dr. Kissinger brought to the world.
Thankyou Gentlemen for you forensic analyisis. Regards from Newcasrle, AUS.
Draft HR McMaster for prez in 2024!!!
Thanks always interesting to listen to you guys!
This show is another fine example of the overall depth and brilliance shown by the Goodfellows. The many in depth points put forth on various subjects amaze me. The scripting, comments and choice of subjects always seems to resonate in a way that points to the future in a manner showing promise. Thanks to all of you.
Niall Ferguson is right. The Rolling Stones are, objectively, the greatest rock & roll band, ever.
Thanks for a very informative group of conversations- STONES!
Yes, Stones.
Props to your video editor as well - the Lightning Round graphics/ sound, and the Psycho shower scene strings were a nice touch
Great episode as always.
As always from across the pond thanks for another thought provoking episode.
I can’t wait for new “GoodFellows” content. Interesting, topically relevant, and served with a side dish of good humor among the Fellows and their guests.
Always enjoy watching each episode. Keep up the good work gentlemen.
Great episode. Clearly it is impossible to answer a question on unknown unknowns. You can answer a question on known unknowns.
Thank you.
Excellent show.
Great episode!
Right on HR!!!
Always a treat
As always, an excellent insight into what the hell is going on in this crazy world. Kudos to the good fellows of Hoover to help their fellow citizens be a bit more informed!
Its good to know what the Neocons are thinking.
That's my exact reaction. They are hopelessly out of touch with the public.
It was unknown that it was known before it was known.
bingo
They surely could be more harsh on trump. They treat him like a normal guy with just a couple of indictement
I'd like to see a program that really compares the Florida and California economy in detail
Love you guys
Good episode.
love this show
I miss the Santa hats on the GoodFellows in the title card. I think that was a great touch. Let's make that a holiday tradition!
HR you are correct!!
You all 4 are great! I always get such great take aways. Would love to meet are 4 of you and have a conversation sometime....Thank you for such a great shows.
Brilliant on all topics by all the Fellows, Karl Rove, and Bill Whalen, too. How about bringing Mr. Rove back in June/July before the Republican convention?
My intuition is that the whole reason Rove came on was to pump up Haley. This show's view numbers don't really support that logic (sub #'s decent tho) but perhaps the value lies more in the "who" will view it? If Haley survives these initial stages it will be interesting to see if Rove is seen more often/widely talking about her. Great show!
1:03:15 Same issues in Ireland. The problem there is that this concern doesn't really have a political outlet. The establishment doesn't want to know about it.
Thanks for another informative and educational discussion. Always leaves me with plenty to think about. I'm no expert by any stretch, but I worry about where AI goes, too. What you are saying makes sense, but humanity better try to guide it regardless. It could get out of hand very easily.
On all these "far right" elections being won, agree it's important to listen to what people are saying. My sense is there's something missing somehow that needs to be addressed with these folks.
The Stones sponsored by AARP - Thought I'd heard it all, or most of it!
Thank you for sharing. I hope you all have a happy and healthy season.
The editor had fun with this episode
Another country voted on one candidate's nice hair and it has proven to be disastrous for Canada.
karl rove selling his wishes as "analysis" is reached a level on the absurd scale that feeds into increaseed trump support. 9 out of 10 republican that listens to this man talk ends up closing the tab and doubling down on trump.
Rove’s pre-election year tour d’ horizon was fascinating.
Nice to see Theodore there, keeping a friendly if incredulous eye on the jibberjabber…
I LOVE General McMaster. Must have been difficult to sit in with some of the good fellas.
Great episode, and great to hear such thoughtful analyses of the Israel/Hamas/Gaza situation and possible solutions. I just heard the Lebanese P.M. on Times radio. What a contrast. What will we do to stop the Arab leaders being so afraid of the street?
Ms Haley did a great job while she was at UN. She expressed very important thoughts against the ambiguity of the UN and the double standards UN applies to some important topics. As foreigner person, I like her for this reason. Maybe it’s not enough.
Incisive political insight AND great humor 😂!
I went to North Georgia College with Shawn Mullins, LTG McMaster! In fact, LTG (Retired) James Terry taught us both, when we were there.
Rumsfeld as Descartes...
Karl was interesting. And the discussion on the Middle East was bracing.
Every time I hear the four of you talking about the economy, international issues, policy, etc I wonder just what would happen if the four of you were running the country? (You can decide who would be president. I know who I would choose) 😀
“At a minimum, Iraq should put an end to the notion of “nation-building,” especially “nation-building” on the cheap, and to the glib and heady talk of “national greatness” interventionists who were prepared to put other people’s lives on the line from the safety of their editorial offices”…Thomas Sowell
Bravo Karl Rove... I paraphrase... "If you have a complaint about the election... validate it before the election." The bedrock of the American system is trust in those who run the system and the legitimacy of the electoral vote. The reason we all have locks on our doors we know that there are those who would steal anything, anywhere and anytime! We need locks on our electoral process, a system that is transparent, trusted and not questioned. Another hats off to "GoodFellows"... 60 minutes of thought for the other 167 hours of our week to think about... Bravo!
Another great episode, and yes the Stones are the greatest Rock n Roll band….Zeppelin a close second
Rove's superficial takes are probably interesting to someone.
Very interesting in the first segment on American politics. Trump is pillared as a villain, and in the second, on foreign policy, what he did is acknowledged as effective. Why not acknowledge the potential advantages of his return to power?
I'm with Niall on the Rolling Stones. Greatest Rock 'n' Roll Band Ever. The Beatles were the greatest Pop band ever.
Bravo Gentlemen! Thank You!
Yeccch.
I always wish Rumsfeldt had completed the grid and went on philosophizing about the ”things we don’t know that we know”.
Niall, one trip to the supermarket is all it takes to understand why people (the “little people” to quote Fiona) are down on the economy. Look at the lunacy of the Fed’s latest way of calculating “core” inflation (“supercore” inflation). Gee, Jerome, whodda thunk workers would demand big raises when a half decent steak is $14.99/lb and even chicken is up 40%?
Love the fellows, loose the t**d blossom guest. :-) D.A., J.D., NYC
Will they have a special on Henry Kissinger, seeing he has passed away, at 100. And how Ferguson is writing his biography.
Certainly a War Criminal of epic proportions.
So cute how they try to make 2024 seem competitive 😂
Karl Rove is sharp, and he is funny. This is one intelligent man, well-versed in the history of American politics. My hat is off to him. Yes, it is true, the Rolling Stones really are as good as their as their press agent wants us to think they are...and by "Rolling Stones" one can only mean Keith Richards (first and foremost) and Mick Jagger (a distant second).
Most of what he droned on about was irrelevant. Electoral history is not correlated to today's outcomes, interesting anecdotes none the less. Rove certainly revealed himself when he announced that his stand up desk was bigger than Rumsfeld's... LOL
Agreed. Rove just had to dominate the conversation at all times. Sociopath. Seriously.
As a member of the “White House Iraq Group” he was tasked with the sale and marketing of the illegal invasion of Iraq.
This is a good programm. Haley & DeSantis? Perhaps some competence for a change...
Speaking of the Rolling Stones wouldn’t it have been better for all concerned if America had simply followed ‘Rolling Stones’ foreign policy for the last 50 years or so…that’s to say only invade foreign countries where the Stones have played ? So no Iraq, no Afghanistan, no Syria, no Viet Nam. It may sound simple but Mick Jagger is realist who understands the way the world works - which is way more than can be said for most US presidents lately 😂
they should ask the economist about the trump economy and current inflation! i know cochrane will say its only due to covid spending, and ignore a decade of negative real interest rates and quantitative easing. although i guarantee he would have been on record during that time, as most economists were, questioning when the expected inflation is coming, only to forget about it now....
Hey Karl, why did you forget to mention Vivek. We can see you are on the Nicki train .
He hates Vivek as he's not only smarter than Rove but also has charisma. Rove like dumb charming candidates that he can manipulate from his BIG standing desk... Bush, Haley etc
Remember
"Monkey Business"?⛵️
Another good talk. Probably a good idea not to mix the General and VDH. Just saying…..
If Dems picks someone els than Buden they will WIN..
If Reps picks someone els than Trump they WIN...Biden vs Trump is a gamble for both..50/50..imo
You are correct.
And if bith pick someone else its a gamble 50/50 so whats the dif. Better one you know.
Unfortunately it's going to be Michelle Obama and it won't matter who runs on the republican side she/him will win and as usual it will be liberal white suburban women that will put her in. You're looking at the fall of the country
Ignore Roves's gaslighting -- the GOP has no choice unless Trump keels over. If thge GOP picks anyone other than the clear choice of its voters, which is Trump, it will be crushed.
Great show, but I think Rove needs to brush up on his 19th century presidential history.
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The American people want a two state solution more than any other foreign policy goal, and October 7th is exactly why. I still think a UN Security Council Resolution of Peace Keepers on a Humanitarian mission to protect Gazans from Hamas is the way to go.
The US has blocked over 53 UN resolutions condemning Israeli actions and behavior.
Carl Rove?? You brought this guy on???
Karl Rove. Yikes. I guess Alexander Kerensky was unavailable?
Is Niall ok?
It’s really sad that none of these guys can openly confront that Trump is against them and the entire system. What a failure of moral and professional leadership.
I use to know a dog named “Rover”.
Nikki Haley has had impressive debate performances for sure. She would pose a serious challenge to Biden for independent voters.
Karl is the perfect Trump Derangement Syndrome guest.
Mitch Daniels? Lol
Good heavens, it's 'turd blossom'!
Karl Rove and Barry Weiss. Ending the year weak.
Rove is excellent at telling the Fox News people exactly what they want to hear. His analysis is terrible.
Karl Rove would love any Republican other than Trump. Wimp
I almost busted a gut listening to Karl Rove, the mouthpiece of the most reckless and fiscally irresponsible GOP President (outside of Trump) . talking about fiscal sobriety in the Senate. Is that a joke. The Senate is the number one engine for this reckless spending.
Reuters…”Pentagon fails its sixth audit in a row” Nov 15, 2023
That’s big of you. And whatever you do keep on ignoring that punctuation, how you use it (fail to use it really I suppose) is really quite hilarious…
@@paulklee5790 ah yes, the ultimate argument to end all arguments: "you forgot a period lol"
Well done, my friend. You were on the verge of actually having to address what the person said, but just barely managed to save yourself the trouble of thinking.
Nikki Haley's embrace of the war in Ukraine has killed her nomination.
Perhaps I'm not far enough to the right, but I don't find Karl Rove to be a very insightful character.
Karl Rove is not a policy guy but a political scientist, and a damn good one at that. Take his policy comments with a big grain of salt. His comments regarding winning elections should be taken very seriously.
The Beatles' musical cannon will be played, studied, and enjoyed around the word for many generations to come. When Mick dies, so will the Stones (I spent a day with Mick once; not that impressive).
Looking from outside(Sweden) i think Haley would be a good choice👍..Trump and Biden are too old and too much drama
The only drama with Trump is the lies Democrats FBI, DOJ and mainstream media made up about Trump.
Anyone from Sweden has no place at the table of sanity. Look at the mess Sweden is in.
Haley is a deep state shill, completely out of touch with GOP voters.
Sweden is a train wreck.
I can't take a stand. But... The Beatles was impressive while the Rolling Stones still are. The latest album is excellent. Maybe their best.
Ridiculous Question, Israel won't touch Qatar. Those HAMAS officials can't hide forever.
What about a Vivek? I think he would be rockstar candidate!
Vivek is all style and no substance. He's the last guy I'd ever vote for.
Funny how their egos are blind to who can best lead the country. Who do they support as president.
Rumsfeld😮
you just dont know what you dont know!
Meh, this is silly. I expect a plot twist here or there, but the overwhelming possibility is that Biden defeats Trump in the rematch.